Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-28 Thread Erland Møller
Fritz Borgstedt schreef: For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: Really? When we first started out, the end users helped in the training of the database. Doug You may have your own strategy. The strategy of ASSP is to have some days to get familiar with

[Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
I'm a little confused on how to catch false positives in ASSP (Ham that ASSP thinks is Spam). When setting up ASSP, the Wiki says to run in Test mode and to Be sure the Prepend Spam Subject is also blank. Then, after in Test mode for a while, it says Either turn off Test Mode or put

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Doug Lytle
ja...@jwhorn.com wrote: in Test mode and to Be sure the Prepend Spam Subject is also blank. This would be incorrect. Is should have a tag, in our case, it's [SPAM] Then, after in Test mode for a while, it says Either turn off Test Mode or put something like [SPAM] in the Prepend to

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: But if you turn off test mode, you will never see Ham that ASSP thinks is Spam, because ASSP will filter it out. There is a section called Copy Spam Ham! You should have all Spams send to sendAllSpam.

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: This would be incorrect. Is should have a tag, in our case, it's [SPAM] That is absolutely correct. If you starting your ASSP installation for the first time, no user should see anything strange. So the first several days (weeks) you

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
Doug, Thanks for the reply. I'm surprised that the ASSP wiki is incorrect. I don't know who maintains it, but if those sections are really incorrect, I hope somebody will update them. - Jason On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Doug Lytle wrote: ja...@jwhorn.com wrote: in Test mode and to Be

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Doug Lytle
Fritz Borgstedt wrote: That is absolutely correct. If you starting your ASSP installation for the first time, no user should see anything strange. So the first several days (weeks) you run in testmode WITHOUT a tag. Really? When we first started out, the end users helped in the training

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
Fritz, That's interesting. Does the addition of the prepend to the subject (spamSubject) affect the accuracy of the filtering, or is it just for the sake of informing users? I had assumed that the reason not to initially set a value in spamSubject was because the filters would then be

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
This makes sense to me. This is why I find is so strange that the Wiki makes a strong point of saying Be sure the Prepend Spam Subject is also blank, without explaining why. - Jason On Mar 27, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Doug Lytle wrote: Fritz Borgstedt wrote: That is absolutely correct. If you

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: Really? When we first started out, the end users helped in the training of the database. Doug You may have your own strategy. The strategy of ASSP is to have some days to get familiar with the system. It is unnessary (and we think

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: That's interesting. Does the addition of the prepend to the subject (spamSubject) affect the accuracy of the filtering, or is it just for the sake of informing users? It is for informing users.

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Doug Lytle
Fritz Borgstedt wrote: You may have your own strategy. The strategy of ASSP is to have some days to get familiar with the system. It is unnessary (and we think wrong) to have user involved in this stage. In Getting Started ( and This is acceptable. We've been using ASSP since 2003 when

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Hill, Brett
Doug Lytle wrote: Really? When we first started out, the end users helped in the training of the database. You trust your end users to do that during initial training? LoL! -- Brett --

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Doug Lytle
Hill, Brett wrote: You trust your end users to do that during initial training? LoL! For the most part, it worked well. For those that had questions, we had them call the help desk. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary