disabled!
;) Tom
From: Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com;
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Intermediate/short term goals
Sent: Sun, Mar 17, 2013 10:25:08 PM
Mark,
The idea
Of course Mike, however you need to be able to see the big picture, plenty of
crashes worldwide due to technology overload. I prefer to fly with F/Os who can
fly, luckily nearly all can! There isn#x27;t any technology in the world on a
stormy night with a 40kt crosswind worth more than sheer
For myself, I am not interested in any variometer cruise modes so am content
with my B400 and B40 in our second glider. Interestingly both Bruce Taylor and
myself seem to muddle along OK with sink tone disabled!
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Flying in the best air allows for a greater sample (time and distance) of air
to pick the best climb.
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On 18/03/2013, at 10:21, Matthew Gage m...@knightschallenge.com wrote:
Comparing some flights from a recent comp,
A glider that flew direct saw 4 knot average climbs
] Intermediate/short term goals
Sent: Sun, Mar 17, 2013 10:25:08 PM
Mark,
The idea is to fly in air that's going up. You should not be hearing
the sink sound much. If you are it is time to go somewhere else and
be in cruise mode while doing this when you won't hear the sink sound.
Mike
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Mark,
The idea is to fly in air that's going up. You should not be hearing
the sink sound much. If you are it is time
Bruce Taylor
and myself seem to muddle along OK with sink tone disabled!
;) Tom
From: Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com;
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Intermediate/short term goals
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Mark,
The idea is to fly in air that's going up. You should
Stuart.
From: Stuart Kerri FERGUSON
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:27 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Intermediate/short term goals
I'm not a comp pilot however I know that all the data in the world is of no use
if you can't
Stuart,
The eagle doesn't need to look at his vario. His ears detect the
pressure changes caused by climb and descent. There is also some
conjecture that some soaring birds can detect the nearby presence of
thermals by the infrasound (sound at frequencies lower than 20 Hz)
generated.
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Intermediate/short term goals
Sent: Sun, Mar 17, 2013 10:25:08 PM
Mark,
The idea is to fly in air that's going up. You should not be
hearing the sink sound much. If you are it is time to go somewhere
else and be in cruise mode
John H Cochrane has some very good articles on the web he has done some
analysis on deviations which can be found at
http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/john.cochrane/soaring/docs/deviations_I.pdf
Othe good artciles can also be found on this page
On 17/03/2013, at 11:08 AM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com
wrote:
Yes, staying out of sink is very important. Most of us do it poorly. It is
extremely important when trying to center weak and broken thermals which is
why I like a vario with a sink sound as it provides full
Mark,
The idea is to fly in air that's going up. You should not be hearing
the sink sound much. If you are it is time to go somewhere else and
be in cruise mode while doing this when you won't hear the sink sound.
Mike
At 12:37 AM 18/03/2013, you wrote:
On 17/03/2013, at 11:08 AM, Mike
-soaring] Intermediate/short term goals
Mark,
The idea is to fly in air that's going up. You should not be hearing the
sink sound much. If you are it is time to go somewhere else and be in
cruise mode while doing this when you won't hear the sink sound.
Mike
At 12:37 AM 18/03/2013, you
meaninglessly.
Dave
From: rolf a. buelter rbuel...@hotmail.com
To: aus soaring aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Monday, 18 March 2013 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Intermediate/short term goals
The idea is to fly in air that's going up.
Wow
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Intermediate/short term goals
On 17/03/2013, at 11:08 AM, Mike Borgelt
mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote:
Yes, staying out of sink is very important. Most of us do it poorly. It
is
extremely important when trying to center weak and broken thermals which
Comparing some flights from a recent comp,
A glider that flew direct saw 4 knot average climbs and averaged 40:1
A glider of the same type deviated a lot, saw 6 knot climbs and achieved 50:1
The glider that deviated could fly an additional 26km and still be ahead.
That's a deviation of about
Use the force?.
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'The idea is to fly in air that's going up' is pretty good advice.
I was sitting opposite a world champion from Eastern Europe at dinner
when someone asked him What's the secret?
His answer was It's not so hard. You climb and you glide… but it's
best to do it in that order.
It is a technique
On 15/03/2013, at 5:12 PM, Adam Woolley wrote:
Have you got any rough 'rules of thumb' that you use in order to
decide if the short term deviation is worth it or not?
Better air within 30 degrees either side of track is worth deviating
for.
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It might depend a bit on the performance of your glider. I fly a Foka 5
I have been very impressed, in a negative way, by the amount of height
lost in a large area of sink. Enough to see you on the ground. My very
recent endevours have been to find ways to avoid or get out of sink.
Has anyone
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Intermediate/short term goals
It might depend a bit on the performance of your glider. I fly a Foka 5
I have been very impressed, in a negative way, by the amount of height lost
in a large area of sink. Enough to see you
At 06:57 PM 16/03/2013, you wrote:
On 15/03/2013, at 5:12 PM, Adam Woolley wrote:
Have you got any rough 'rules of thumb' that you use in order to
decide if the short term deviation is worth it or not?
Better air within 30 degrees either side of track is worth deviating for.
It is more
Adam,
Is the wisp stable, building or decaying? No-one has identified that so far.
Building, go. Decaying, pass it by. You should know unless you have been at
cloud base - watch the sky ahead, not just cloud by cloud.
I broadly agree with some previous comments, but also no-one has mentioned
Depends on the climb rates of the day and cycle rate. Short cycle and weak
climbs go for it, the whisps maybe woking well. Boomer day with big climbs
under big clouds dont bother.
Jim
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