[Aus-soaring] Club and Sports Class Nationals
Hi All, The weather is starting to warm up at Benalla and it has been quite dry in the last month or so. With any luck we will have a much more normal start to the season. At this stage we have 46 entries, and still 6 weeks till earlybird entries close at the end of October. We can take up to 70, so there is still plenty of room for entries. There is a good rollup in the traditional Club and Sports classes, but we don't have enough yet in the 2 seater class. If you know anyone with an eligible two seater please encourage them - it would be nice to see a good contest in this class. Duo's, DG 1000, DG500, Janus, are all possibles. The class is handicapped and water ballast is allowed. You can find the website at http://www.deltaone.id.au/Benalla2012. Entry is through the online form on the site. If you have any questions, please contact me off list. -- Cheers /Tim/ /tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Puchatek
Hi All, Does anyone know of a spare undercarriage oleo for a Puchatek available? Or the original manufacturer? Cheers David ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Club and Sports Class Nationals
Hi Steve, About two more days and they will be shipped. Ready for final checkout now. We're fine. How was your summer? I read on the net it was fairly wet and cool. Regards Mike At 04:44 PM 20/09/2011, you wrote: Hi All, The weather is starting to warm up at Benalla and it has been quite dry in the last month or so. With any luck we will have a much more normal start to the season. At this stage we have 46 entries, and still 6 weeks till earlybird entries close at the end of October. We can take up to 70, so there is still plenty of room for entries. There is a good rollup in the traditional Club and Sports classes, but we don't have enough yet in the 2 seater class. If you know anyone with an eligible two seater please encourage them - it would be nice to see a good contest in this class. Duo's, DG 1000, DG500, Janus, are all possibles. The class is handicapped and water ballast is allowed. You can find the website at http://www.deltaone.id.au/Benalla2012http://www.deltaone.id.au/Benalla2012. Entry is through the online form on the site. If you have any questions, please contact me off list. -- Cheers Tim tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Club and Sports Class Nationals
Disregard, Don't know what happened there. Mike Hi Steve, About two more days and they will be shipped. Ready for final checkout now. We're fine. How was your summer? I read on the net it was fairly wet and cool. Regards Mike At 04:44 PM 20/09/2011, you wrote: Hi All, The weather is starting to warm up at Benalla and it has been quite dry in the last month or so. With any luck we will have a much more normal start to the season. At this stage we have 46 entries, and still 6 weeks till earlybird entries close at the end of October. We can take up to 70, so there is still plenty of room for entries. There is a good rollup in the traditional Club and Sports classes, but we don't have enough yet in the 2 seater class. If you know anyone with an eligible two seater please encourage them - it would be nice to see a good contest in this class. Duo's, DG 1000, DG500, Janus, are all possibles. The class is handicapped and water ballast is allowed. You can find the website at http://www.deltaone.id.au/Benalla2012http://www.deltaone.id.au/Benalla2012. Entry is through the online form on the site. If you have any questions, please contact me off list. -- Cheers Tim tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Puchatek
Are they the same as the other metal thingys. if not try Narrogin or Lake Keepit. Cheers Patch - Original Message - From: David Conway dcon...@adelaide.on.net To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, 20 September, 2011 6:22:46 PM (GMT+1000) Auto-Detected Subject: [Aus-soaring] Puchatek Untitled Document Hi All, Does anyone know of a spare undercarriage oleo for a Puchatek available? Or the original manufacturer? Cheers David ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Puchatek
AFIK Narrogin don’t own a Puchatek anymore, i believe the bits left over are sitting in our AAFC hanger. Regards Ben WestOz From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ruth Patching Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 6:24 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Puchatek Are they the same as the other metal thingys. if not try Narrogin or Lake Keepit. Cheers Patch - Original Message - From: David Conway dcon...@adelaide.on.net To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, 20 September, 2011 6:22:46 PM (GMT+1000) Auto-Detected Subject: [Aus-soaring] Puchatek Hi All, Does anyone know of a spare undercarriage oleo for a Puchatek available? Or the original manufacturer? Cheers David ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA
Not necessarily. A range of high intensity LED strobes are coming into the market. An example is: http://www.aeroleds.com/ It may soon be feasible to run a pair of wing tip strobes off a second battery for aircraft operating in high traffic areas. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of John McFarlane Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 8:07 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA Back to Day-Glo wing tips and noses again - small wheel From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Mc Donnell Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:24 AM To: Gliding mail list Subject: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA http://www.atc-network.com/News/39650/CAA-funds-visibility-trial ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA
LED lighting technology has come a long way in the past few years and is still rapidly improving. Looking at the specifications on website http://www.aeroleds.com/ the average current draw at about 1 Ampere per light is still rather large for a glider. I suspect the efficiency will continue to improve to the point where they will be a viable option, perhaps glider manufacturers would then include them in their design. BTW some of the cyclists LED lights are extremely bright especially when flashing but full daylight is hard to compete with! John Parncutt From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Anthony Smith Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 9:22 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA Not necessarily. A range of high intensity LED strobes are coming into the market. An example is: http://www.aeroleds.com/ It may soon be feasible to run a pair of wing tip strobes off a second battery for aircraft operating in high traffic areas. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of John McFarlane Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 8:07 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA Back to Day-Glo wing tips and noses again - small wheel From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Mc Donnell Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:24 AM To: Gliding mail list Subject: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA http://www.atc-network.com/News/39650/CAA-funds-visibility-trial ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA
John, Your last 7 words sum the situation up nicely but possibly some genius may be able to turn this to advantage. As I recall the original research (and of course as we know from our own experience), the only useful positive finding was that the reflected flash of sunlight off a highly polished wing was visible for miles Unfortunately this situation really only occurred when a glider was circling. So it is not so much a matter of Mandrake and smoke and mirrors, but more about mirrors! As John McFarlane rightly notes, everything else (at the time), was basically useless for an aircraft that could be any colour you like, as long as that colour was white! It is nice to see the CAA giving it a go. Does anybody know what the allocated budget for the program is? In the meantime we are left with lookout, lookout, lookout, and to a lesser (but invaluable) extent Flarm. Gary - Original Message - From: John Parncutt To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA LED lighting technology has come a long way in the past few years and is still rapidly improving. Looking at the specifications on website http://www.aeroleds.com/ the average current draw at about 1 Ampere per light is still rather large for a glider. I suspect the efficiency will continue to improve to the point where they will be a viable option, perhaps glider manufacturers would then include them in their design. BTW some of the cyclists LED lights are extremely bright especially when flashing but full daylight is hard to compete with! John Parncutt From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Anthony Smith Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 9:22 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA Not necessarily. A range of high intensity LED strobes are coming into the market. An example is: http://www.aeroleds.com/ It may soon be feasible to run a pair of wing tip strobes off a second battery for aircraft operating in high traffic areas. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of John McFarlane Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 8:07 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA Back to Day-Glo wing tips and noses again - small wheel From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Mc Donnell Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:24 AM To: Gliding mail list Subject: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA http://www.atc-network.com/News/39650/CAA-funds-visibility-trial -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA
A friend has a daylight-visible passive strobe on his hang glider. To most, it would look like a small mirror ball hanging from the kingpost. Jim From: gstev...@bigpond.com gstev...@bigpond.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA John, Your last 7 words sum the situation up nicely but possibly some genius may be able to turn this to advantage. As I recall the original research (and of course as we know from our own experience), the only useful positive finding was that the reflected flash of sunlight off a highly polished wing was visible for miles Unfortunately this situation really only occurred when a glider was circling. So it is not so much a matter of Mandrake and smoke and mirrors, but more about mirrors! As John McFarlane rightly notes, everything else (at the time), was basically useless for an aircraft that could be any colour you like, as long as that colour was white! It is nice to see the CAA giving it a go. Does anybody know what the allocated budget for the program is? In the meantime we are left with lookout, lookout, lookout, and to a lesser (but invaluable) extent Flarm. Gary - Original Message - From: John Parncutt To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA LED lighting technology has come a long way in the past few years and is still rapidly improving. Looking at the specifications on website http://www.aeroleds.com/ the average current draw at about 1 Ampere per light is still rather large for a glider. I suspect the efficiency will continue to improve to the point where they will be a viable option, perhaps glider manufacturers would then include them in their design. BTW some of the cyclists LED lights are extremely bright especially when flashing but full daylight is hard to compete with! John Parncutt From:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Anthony Smith Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 9:22 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA Not necessarily. A range of high intensity LED strobes are coming into the market. An example is: http://www.aeroleds.com/ It may soon be feasible to run a pair of wing tip strobes off a second battery for aircraft operating in high traffic areas. From:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of John McFarlane Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 8:07 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA Back to Day-Glo wing tips and noses again – small wheel From:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Mc Donnell Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:24 AM To: Gliding mail list Subject: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA http://www.atc-network.com/News/39650/CAA-funds-visibility-trial ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA
Hey Bernard
I don't use them all the time because they only stand out while cruising under
a cloudstreet or in slightly
overcast conditions. In bright daylight they are less effective but I still
turn them on while flying in areas
of high traffic density.
Isn’t that a bit selective... bit like putting seat belts on in heavy traffic !
Col
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anthony.sm...@adelaide.on.net
Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2011 12:39 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA
My only additional thought was whether it would be worth connecting the LED
strobes up to be triggered by the flarm such that when the flarm alarm sounds
the strobes start going (in addition to a manual switch).
A different line of thought, that would up the fun quotient considerably, would
be a modern version of the RP-63 'Pinball' (google it). Connect up a little
box simialr to flarm that works out line of fire in two aircraft and then go
dog fighting. The strobes go off signifying hits. (The RP-63 was a development
of the Bell P-63 King Cobra in WW2 and was used to train bomber gunners. It
had a strobe light in the nose in lieu of the cannon. The strobe would light
up signifying hits from the gunners.)
On Wed 21/09/11 9:18 AM , Mark Newton new...@atdot.dotat.org sent:
LED strobes are increasingly common in the amateur-built arena. The desire to
save weight means it's pretty unusual to install a strobe which requires a
heavy power box these days.
- mark
On 21/09/2011, at 7:18, Future Aviation
ec...@internode.on.netjavascript:top.opencompose('ec...@internode.on.net','','','')
wrote:
Hi Anthony and others!
You might recall that I have embedded a row of LED strobe lights into the
leading edge of the winglets
on my ASH 25. It was a trail for Schleicher and happend about four or five
years ago.
I don't use them all the time because they only stand out while cruising under
a cloudstreet or in slightly
overcast conditions. In bright daylight they are less effective but I still
turn them on while flying in areas
of high traffic density.
The very latest generation of LED strobes are by far more powerful and a lot
more effective. They will
momentarily blind you if you look directly into them - just as conventional
strobes do. The relatively
narrow beam remains a problem but this can be overcome by embedding several
rows of LED lights
into the leading edge of the fin. This option is now available on the latest
breed of Schleicher ships.
The beauty is that there are no aerodynamic penalties at all.
Kind regards to all
Bernard
From:
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Anthony Smith
Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 8:52 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA
Not necessarily. A range of high intensity LED strobes are coming into the
market. An example is:
http://www.aeroleds.com/
It may soon be feasible to run a pair of wing tip strobes off a second battery
for aircraft operating in high traffic areas.
From:
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of John McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 8:07 AM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA
Back to Day-Glo wing tips and noses again – small wheel
From:
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Christopher
Mc Donnell
Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:24 AM
To: Gliding mail list
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Glider visibility-UK-BGA
http://www.atc-network.com/News/39650/CAA-funds-visibility-trial
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[Aus-soaring] AJGC Newsletter
Hi All, The Australian Junior Gliding Club's latest news letter is out. It's available for download from the website at www.ajgc.org.au . Enjoy. Adam ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
