Not sure what you're looking for, but all the metadata that iPlayer
pages uses to build a programme page is openly accessible
http://beebhack.wikia.com/wiki/IPlayer_Metadata
It can't not be otherwise the javascript on those pages wouldn't work.
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Anthony McKale
Unlikely. The BBC have gone out of their way to be hostile to open
source attempts at using iPlayer content, however you will find
working examples and programs for playing iPlayer stuff on pretty much
anything on that same wiki.
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Alex Cockell
Was BeebPlayer actually banned by the BBC then? I was trying to get
the story on why it suddenly vanished. What could the issue possibly
be with it?
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Brian Butterworth
briant...@freeview.tv wrote:
Mo,
Dave got the beebPlayer app working OK on Android. Until the
You realise that Open Source isn't an organisation that designs software,
right? You also realise we've had SWF verification software for quite a long
time and we're happily using it to download video behind SWF verified flash
apps?
I really don't think user experience is the issue. My user
You must mean column inches
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Brian Butterworth
briant...@freeview.tv wrote:
I thought a device had to have a reasonable UK market share before the BBC
supported it?
On 15 April 2010 12:33, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote:
Ok - I admit it ... I have one.
Personally, I would argue strongly against this on competition grounds.
The BBC should not be in the business of promoting any one vendor who choses
not to install flash on their platform for their own internal reasons.
Iplayer 'works' on my platform.
Well - to the extent of 3 frames a
http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source
I'm sure the iPlayer team will be relieved, having shut down a similar
app on the iPhone a few days ago
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/05/bbc_iphone/) this will be one
less person to write a
I have 2.76 - I run --update daily via cron.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 15:41, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv
wrote:
INFO: Current version is 2.72
INFO: Checking for latest version from linuxcentre.net
ERROR: Failed
Oops!
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 16:36, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:
(Off-list, just to keep Ian Forrester’s job safe)
Wow. That was an _epic_ fail.
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Aside from that, the key really is the resource,
which you'd somehow need to protect in order to stop invalid user
agents just spoofing all this info. In that respect it's very similar
to swf verify, which doesn't work.
I should say: I deliberately didn’t ask for a cryptographic critique.
Message - From: Iain Wallace ikwall...@gmail.com
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [backstage] Re: User Agent/Referrer Verification
I think I replied from an address which isn't registered with the list
earlier, so here's what I said again
I think I replied from an address which isn't registered with the list
earlier, so here's what I said again:
The fact that this is all presumably going to be sent in the clear as
opposed to encrypted means this would be technically very easy to
reverse engineer. Aside from that, the key really is
It's fair enough the BBC prioritising the most popular platforms for
roll out of their iPlayer software and letting 3rd parties develop
their own (XBMC, Android) but users don't consider third party apps as
being outside of the BBC. The result of this is that when the BBC
(intentionally or not)
, prompted by Channel 4).
http://linuxcentre.net/rtmpdump-can-be-used-to-download-copyrighted-works-like-a-web-browser
It is daft. There is more sophisticated crypto in the puzzle pages of
Closer magazine.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Iain Wallace ikwall...@gmail.com wrote:
It's fair enough
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Dave Addey listma...@addey.com wrote:
As another alternative to Boxee and XBMC, you can always use Plex
(http://www.plexapp.com/) and my Plex iPlayer plugin (downloadable from
Plex's in-app
I would love OS maps to be a view in Google Maps. OS maps are far
superior to Google's.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ian Stirling
backstage...@mauve.plus.com wrote:
Brian Butterworth wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/17/ordnance-survey-maps-online
The online maps
I think I replied to this on a non-list-registered address last night.
Discussions around iPlayer seem to hit a taboo around about the point
where you try and build something which displays the video outside of
its original enclosure. When the iPhone version launched there was a
lot of excited
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.welcomebackstage.com
;)
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Phil Lewisbackst...@linuxcentre.net wrote:
Down for me too.
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:06 +0100, Ant Miller wrote:
is www.welcomebackstage.com down for all you guys too?
a
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Forgot to actually look at this. Looks fine on my G1. One minor
interesting thing I have noticed though is I think due to the G1's
browser and how it treats caching. I accessed the page in portrait and
it looked fine, then rotated to landscape without reloading, which
made a few things in the
Trying to match the style/layout of a site to the expected resolution
of the device that you think is displaying it is going about it the
wrong way - this is why CSS has percentage widths for doing layouts.
Or is the question more about what you can send back to the server in
order to choose an
capabilities first.
2009/7/20 Iain Wallace ikwall...@gmail.com
Trying to match the style/layout of a site to the expected resolution
of the device that you think is displaying it is going about it the
wrong way - this is why CSS has percentage widths for doing layouts.
Or is the question more about
It worked for me but something weird is going on - the audio from the
Kevin Rose section was loud and clear and then it suddenly sounds very
quiet distant.
This is a great direction that the BBC is trying out. I'd like smaller
file sizes available and RSS though. The sizes available for this
http://torrentfreak.com/norwegian-tv-launches-bittorrent-tracker-090308/
In terms of practicality, what stops the BBC from doing this? If it's
a problem with rights holders, would the BBC create a tracker if that
wasn't an issue?
Iain
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The last time I needed to do something like this I tried Search first, but
ended up using the A-Z on /programmes as the results were much more what I
was after. The HTML on /programmes is also easy to parse. I don't call using
an XML parser and XPath screen scraping :)
It's screen scraping if
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:57 PM, David Greaves da...@dgreaves.com wrote:
Mr I Forrester wrote:
No one seems to have picked up on the launch of the iPlayer download AIR
application for Windows, Linux, OSX.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/12/introducing_iplayer_deskto.html
I
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello again,
Bereft of any real ideas I asked myself if you took all the BBC TV shows
that are currently on iPlayer and plotted them on a map would it be any use
what so ever?
The result..
http://iplayerlist.mibly.com/map/
Now,
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Brian Butterworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I note that Stephen Fry has posted this, which seems to cover it quite
well..
'I have opened myself to charges of the most monstrous hypocrisy by
championing open source and free software while simultaneously using
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Scot McSweeney-Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Similarly, if Channel 4 want to DRM all their media then it's entirely
their choice because they don't have my money and they aren't
Hi,
Just seeking clarification on some odd wording on the page for
Political Animal:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/politicalanimal.shtml
In the right hand column it says:
Friday Night Comedy from BBC Radio 4
Download or subscribe to this programme's podcast
But the programme isn't part of
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Brian Butterworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/06/mad_about_mac.html
Hey, that thing looks pretty good! Someone should make an iPlayer
interface for it! I doubt the BBC would want to be seen as giving
preference to one
My sentiments exactly. It's little things like this that remind me
that I love the Beeb :)
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Chris Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Some of you may have already noticed this, but I'd just like to pass on my
thanks to whoever it was that made the volume in
Yes, I saw this pop up on the wiki (http://beebhack.bluwiki.com) last
month - great stuff.
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Graeme West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Apologies if this is a dupe, or old news. Someone (Paul Battley, I think,
possibly others) has made a rather nice download
What does it take to get an email address delisted around here?
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Brian Butterworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please STOP IT WITH THE SHOUTING it is very rude.
2008/5/23 TRYPHENA BRADE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Thank you for a DECENT reply.
We AIM to:
host videos
I only wish I worked for someone who'd be willing to pay for me to go
to this. I'm enjoying seeing the live commentary by various people
drift by on twitter though, so keep it up! :)
Have you been playing buzzword bingo at all?
Yes, that wasn't really my question though.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Brian Butterworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why would you want to watch them on the iPlayer when you could have
downloaded them as torrents from the US a whole year before? Allegedly.
2008/4/28 Iain Wallace [EMAIL
Looking at the neighbouring PIDs, that looks like a complete
coincidence, which just makes it funnier :)
Nice find!
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00b3zjr.shtml?src=ip_mp
[[
Page Three Teens
Duration: 60
Jonathan Tweed wrote:
But the right thing to do in this example. A resource shouldn't have
different URLs depending on where you click from, so if you can't track the
outgoing link for some reason then a query parameter seems correct to me.
Logging HTTP_REFERER isn't an option?
I saw this linked off the wiki - very cool. There are features on that
such as RSS subscription that really should be on the official
iPlayer. Great work!
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Andrew Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm a lurker on this list but thought I would de-lurk to show
Wow. that looks really interesting. This looks to be one of the most
innovative examples of DRM-free media. I suppose getting something similar
to work on the Wii, wouldn't require much work.
I would be really intersetd to see a MythTV extension to do this and even
a
Windows
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The reason this was developed so quickly (and it appeared within days
of the iPhone version being released) is that XBMC has its own really
powerful python scripting framework which hooks into its existing
media
Two scenarios:
Scenario 1:
Guy knocks on your door, walks in past you, urinates on your best rug on
the floor, then hands you a note saying your house smells of piss and walks
out.
Scenario 2:
Guy knocks on your door, walks in past you, hands you a note saying go
this website to
You basically have to send the exact same headers that an iPhone does,
along with the BBC-UID. Fortunately someone emailed me a plain-text
log of successful requests sniffed from his iPhone.
I've used curl instead of wget this time as it gives you finer
granularity of control over
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Matthew Somerville
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
James Cridland wrote:
It puts us (those that care about Backstage) in a really difficult
position if it's used to share information on ways to get around
content-restrictions on a BBC service.
Please don't.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 13/03/2008, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It *appears* that it has.
Confirmed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7293988.stm
Anyone know Nokia's head of legals phone number?
Or Google's?
Or Samsung?
Or LG?
Not sure I've got time to poke around with this today, but does anyone
know what they're doing? Are they just sending a cookie over? I notice
there's now an ID in the MP4 URL.
OK, here's my guess: It's another combination of User Agent and
cookies. Just having a quick look at Wireshark,
Well, I now have a working download script for the updated MP4 over
HTTP service. Anyone else been playing with this this evening? Far too
many messages to this thread for me to keep up with.
You basically have to send the exact same headers that an iPhone does,
along with the BBC-UID.
There's a Ruby based script as well, does the exact same thing as my PHP one:
http://po-ru.com/diary/bbc-iplayer-fix-hacked-again/
linked from
http://www.flickr.com/photos/twindx/2316284105/
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Crossland wrote:
On 12/03/2008, Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW I still can't get the mp4 to stream rather than download.
Anyone?
My guess is that the proprietary player on the iPhone just
http://dumpedimage.com/?image=843
:D
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On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It is bizarre that the BBC won't negotiate with 3rd party rights
holders to secure non-DRM internet
I think this is blurring the line between what constitutes DRM and
what constitutes a proprietary streaming protocol. The article doesn't
really go into any technical detail about what they're referring to,
but I take it they're referring to RTMP. This isn't DRM as the files
inside the protocol
Search for Johnny Chung Lee - he's done a few really cool projects
using the wiimote.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Tim Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sounds interesting
does anyone have a link for that video which used the wiimote etc to
create a 3d environment which changed perspective
Google Gears for Flash? Seemed inevitable to me.
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7254436.stm
Adobe Air allows developers to build tools that still have some
functionality even when a computer is no longer
What I /heart/ about the pre-2K bit of plastic is the way it takes control
over your TV/DVD and insists that you watch the copyright notices and it
tries to thrust the 'don't copy videos' advert on to you. Why should any
company have the right to stop you using your own DVD controls and force
2008/2/1 Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 01/02/2008, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is it just me? or is that yellow text on white background all but
impossible to read?
If you are referring to the text at the top it appears to be on a
black background on my computer.
I think it
I've just gotten an iPlayer email update, which is a nice enough
service. Why isn't there some kind of mechanism for subscribing via
RSS or Atom though? Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Is this something that's already being worked on?
Cheers,
Iain
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On Jan 24, 2008 8:25 AM, Premasagar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great stuff! I'm looking forward to it already...
Last year's Hack Day was absolutely one of the highlights of the year.
Clickety-clacking all night long to create something new and exciting...
How come the name change? Won't that
On Jan 24, 2008 9:11 AM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 23/01/2008, Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Without looking it up, the previous reply (from a Gnash dev IIRC) was that
the BBC are
using the latest version of Adobe Flash Streaming Server, and this has
dropped support for
On Jan 23, 2008 11:06 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 23/01/2008, David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably posted before - http://lol.ianloic.com/bbc
Don't think so - that is the best backstage mashup evar :-)
That's great! Needs translating to LOLcats speak though :P
On Jan 21, 2008 10:59 AM, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 20/01/2008, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe we need a discussion on the pros and cons of the various OSS
licenses. Recommend me one!
Did you not see the sign next to the button you just pressed?
I'm sorry
At 12:05 + 21/1/08, Iain Wallace wrote:
I'm finding this thread quite useful and interesting. Sorry if you
don't. You could always just filter it out in your mail client.
If I was objecting to the thread I would have used words like 'ad nauseam'
rather than 'ad infinitum' - I was just
The one that says Don't push this button
.cf Licencing discussions ad infinitum...
Cheers
Maybe he pressed it to see what happens...
Aren't License flame wars fun? ;p
If this is a flame war then it's the most polite flame war I've ever
seen! You guys can't have ever posted in
On Jan 21, 2008 1:49 PM, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 01:34:14PM +, Fearghas McKay wrote:
[0] #insert smiley.h
You mean #include, surely? Jeez, such a n00b. ;)
OK, that's much more familiar territory :D
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On Jan 20, 2008 9:10 PM, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 20 January 2008 15:35:12 Iain Wallace wrote:
Maybe we need a discussion on the pros and cons of the various OSS
licenses. Recommend me one!
Summary: snip
That's really useful, thanks! I think I'll go for a GPL
Apologies if this is the second time this has hit the list...
This is a slightly better version of the script that I posted in the
XBMC forums thread that was linked in the exotic devices thread.
There are a number of people on here writing code to work out the RTMP
stream URL who might benefit
I'll do that, but for now it's for anyone to use. If you make
something amazing from it, credit me in the readme ;)
I don't want to get into a discussion about the pros and cons of
GPL v3 but I would much prefer to see an MIT or BSD style licence.
Can I put in a plea for dual licensing
On Jan 9, 2008 4:11 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 09/01/2008, Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He sounds like he'd be a hoot to have around, as long as you're not
one of those cheeseburger-eating, IDE-loving, PHP douchebags, as he
might call them.
(Which I'm not,
On Jan 9, 2008 9:42 AM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 06/01/2008, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this list (and this thread in
particular) is precisely because we -do- want people knowing how as much of
this works as possible:
Them tell me how it works!
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