Re: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread Richard Lockwood
On 3/27/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/03/07, Jeremy Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 0.4% of users at the time used a Linux operating system ;) That's not entirely true is it? Please do not try to mislead people. What is more likely is: 0.4% of users WHERE DETECTED AS using a Linux

RE: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread Jason Cartwright
I'll ignore your rant about the stats - but add that these numbers are probably generated by some pretty sophisticated 3rd part software that the BBC employs. I highly doubt they just look for Linux in the UA string. I'm sure Jem will be replying. the site is target at Windows users Completely

RE: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread Andrew Bowden
1) the BBC stats are biased, the site is target at Windows users and on certain pages blocks users of other OSes That's not my experience of it; my usual browser is Firefox on Gentoo Linux, and I can't recall the last time I was blocked from content on bbc.co.uk. Ubuntu user with

Re: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread gareth rushgrove
On 28/03/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and will result in thousands of emails asking why IE, and it's box model, has messed up the pretty design. I wish this happened were I work! If only users would blame the IE rendering engine (rather than the site or designers) everything

Re: [backstage] BBC site statistics - actually subtitling

2007-03-28 Thread Andrew McParland
For more info on this live subtitling system, have a look at this paper: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp065.shtml The live re-speaking subtitling system was developed at BBC Research ( Development) down at Kingswood Warren. Cheers, Andrew BBC Research On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 06:25:49PM

RE: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread Kim Plowright
If you read Martin Belam (hello Martin!) on the methods he used to derive these figures, you'll note that he's extremely thorough in his data analysis. http://www.currybet.net/articles/user_agents/index.php I think you should read a little levity in to Jem's use of a grin after the Linux

RE: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread Brian Butterworth
These stats are very interesting (especially BlackBerry 0.43%), and the use of a cookie (with the provisos listed at the bottom of the page) to track 'users' provides a good insight. Is it possible that these stats could be provided automatically, say on a daily basis so it can be used to track

Re: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread Martin Belam
Gruß Gott - if I wasn't being worked like a dog on the last three days of my contract here in Austria I would have responded at some length already, but most of the points I would have made appear to have been covered already... ;-) I can give you off hand the user agent figures for all the Sony

Re: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread vijay chopra
On 28/03/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect you already know this, and perhaps your question is rhetorical. I'll answer it anyhow :-). Some browsers had different interpretations of the standards and render pages radically differently from each other. Testing to the

RE: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread Jason Cartwright
They are working on it... http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx (last 3 paras). Molly (a visitor around here every so often [1]) is on the case from the inside... http://weblogs.asp.net/molly/ J [1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasoncartwright/tags/molly/

[backstage] Newcastle Speakers Club - Wall of Video

2007-03-28 Thread Richard Hyett
Two points I want to make 1) Still impossible to find video content that the BBC produces, there have been lots irrespective of copyright. How to find this http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/videonation/videos/public_speaking.shtml So I can add it to this

RE: [backstage] Newcastle Speakers Club - Wall of Video

2007-03-28 Thread Jason Cartwright
Some video search stuff was announced the other day. Apparently its going to be used on CBBC CBeebies to start with... http://www.google.com/search?q=ibm+video+search+cbeebies J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Hyett

Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Roberts
On 21/02/07, Tristan Ferne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you like it the idea. What Radio 4 updates would you find interesting? The Shipping Forecast -- Andy Roberts http://distributedresearch.net/blog/ http://pajamanation.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter

2007-03-28 Thread Mario Menti
On 3/28/07, Andy Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/02/07, Tristan Ferne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you like it the idea. What Radio 4 updates would you find interesting? I hope you don't mind a little self-promotion, but I recently set up http://twitterfeed.com - a service that

RE: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread Kim Plowright
Is it possible that these stats could be provided automatically, say on a daily basis so it can be used to track the use of browsers and platforms. No. Slightly longer answer - the stats system is problematic, and doesn't provide easy ways to route this kind of thing externally. It's under

[backstage] Hack Day 2007! Get your diaries / ical / outlook / ipod / phone / wall chart out

2007-03-28 Thread Matthew Cashmore
As many of you may have already heard through the geek grape vine (GGV 2.0) ;-) The BBC and Yahoo! are planning to get together to hold 48 hours of hacking madness this summer. Over the weekend of June 16th and 17th we plan to see over 400 developers and designers from all over Europe heading

RE: [backstage] Hack Day 2007! Get your diaries / ical / outlook / ipod / phone / wall chart out

2007-03-28 Thread Matt Locke
yes! for some of us this has been a very hard secret to keep over the last few months... Its going to be a fantastic event, in a fantastic venue, so huge thanks to Matt for working to make it happen. looking forward to seeing lots of you there... matt ___ Matt

Re: [backstage] Hack Day 2007! Get your diaries / ical / outlook / ipod / phone / wall chart out

2007-03-28 Thread gareth rushgrove
Is now going to have to avidly watch this list like a hawk for mention of tickets becoming available in order to pounce. Good job Matt and everyone else involved if it turns out as good as it sounds. G On 28/03/07, Matt Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes! for some of us this has been a

Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter

2007-03-28 Thread Kirk Northrop
Mario Menti wrote: I hope you don't mind a little self-promotion, but I recently set up http://twitterfeed.com - a service that lets you take any RSS feed and post its updates to twitter. So if anyone here wants specific BBC twitter updates, as long as there's a feed for it, you should be able

Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter

2007-03-28 Thread Mario Menti
On 3/28/07, Kirk Northrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario Menti wrote: I hope you don't mind a little self-promotion, but I recently set up http://twitterfeed.com - a service that lets you take any RSS feed and post its updates to twitter. So if anyone here wants specific BBC twitter

Re: [backstage] Browser Stats

2007-03-28 Thread Gordon Joly
What is more likely is: 0.4% of users WHERE DETECTED AS using a Linux operating system AT THE TIME THEY VISITED THE BBC SITE. Cam we assume that global stats (of random websites) show a higher number of Linux web clients that this, such as wget and telnet www.example.com 80? YMMV, Gordo

[backstage] Weather Feeds

2007-03-28 Thread James Brook
Hello All, I've finally gotten around to having a play with the weather RSS feeds and I notice that one of the feed's trips up my xml parser. http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/3374.xml - has an illegal character in the name the in the Elephant Castle. I'm skipping it for now