Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2010-01-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 13:25, Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com wrote: This is windows-only right now (presumably because Apple won't give Adobe access to the necessary APIs). Er, what? Where did that presumption come from? Nothing else on the Mac or Linux has a problem with video

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2010-01-01 Thread Kieran Kunhya
a) VLC, when _not_ using the GPU, doesn’t struggle remotely as much as Flash b) VLC also overlays text and graphics over video Again using the GPU for compositing. c) YV12-RGB _can_ be tightly optimised if you’re crazy enough to do things that way around The key there is that the

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2010-01-01 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 13:19, Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com wrote: a) VLC, when _not_ using the GPU, doesn’t struggle remotely as much as Flash b) VLC also overlays text and graphics over video Again using the GPU for compositing. On which platforms? As I said, I’m not talking about

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2010-01-01 Thread Kieran Kunhya
On which platforms? As I said, I’m not talking about Windows *at all* here. It uses an appropriate renderer for the platform, which by default would be GPU accelerated. (I don't feel like looking up the names for each one right now though...) …yes. It does it backwards. Given a focus on

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-31 Thread Kieran Kunhya
--- On Wed, 30/12/09, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Why the Flash iPlayer client can't use the hardware acceleration.  I get lots of dropped frames watching through the iPlayer Desktop. The new Flash 10.1 beta uses DXVA (DirectX Hardware Video Acceleration). However it has

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-31 Thread Gordon Joly
A tv is box of electronics that is going to the Council dump today - replaced by an iMac and a Freeview dongle (with two UHF tuners). TV and Radio are broadcast media. They exist inside a regulatory framework, and date back to the work of Marconi, Tesla, Hertz and others. Amateur radio

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-31 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:11, Kieran Kunhya kie...@kunhya.com wrote: This is windows-only right now (presumably because Apple won't give Adobe access to the necessary APIs). Er, what? Where did that presumption come from? Nothing else on the Mac or Linux has a problem with video

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-31 Thread Kieran Kunhya
This is windows-only right now (presumably because Apple won't give Adobe access to the necessary APIs). Er, what? Where did that presumption come from? Nothing else on the Mac or Linux has a problem with video compositing. VLC, which does it entirely in software too, has _no_ issues.

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-30 Thread Matt Barber
Enjoying the thread! TV is a dinosaur sleepwalking off a cliff. - classic. TV is a cool medium. The whole world is fascinated with what's on TV - makes up a lot of what people do, say and think about all the time. Still, don't you think that the medium of the Internet - Interactive and instant

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-30 Thread Brian Butterworth
2009/12/30 Matt Barber m...@progressive.org.uk Originally black and white, delivered over huge sets with a lower resolution. Now we have impressive looking glass things on the wall serving up really good pictures over a digital medium. Interestingly 405-line and 625-line TV were described

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-30 Thread Barry Carlyon
I don't know what's next for TV (anyone's guess is as good as mine) but I can have some fun imagining it too. I hear BBC one HD and BBC TWO HD are on the cards... Now HD is an interesting one, but I don't think my laptop or Broadband bandwidth will like that, I take my TV thru Live

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-30 Thread Brian Butterworth
I use get_iplayer to get the HD content from the BBC, this means my Windows 7 machine will use the hardware decoder on the video card, this gives the best possible quality and no dropped frames. Why the Flash iPlayer client can't use the hardware acceleration. I get lots of dropped frames

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-30 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 19:17, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Why the Flash iPlayer client can't use the hardware acceleration.  I get lots of dropped frames watching through the iPlayer Desktop. Flash’s abysmal video decoder is a longstanding bone of contention amongst those

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-30 Thread jonathan chetwynd
endless remakes of Emma? haven't had one for well over a decade, eventually the men in white vans do stop coming well almost ~: - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-15 Thread Ant Miller
Not definitional but: TV is a large international engineering, entertainment, and journalism complex with a contiguous attitude toward it's 'audience' and in most cases, it's 'customers/clients' (aka advertisers). It is a culture under threat, and reacting to that threat with several

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Brian Butterworth wrote: Another way of looking at TV is that is the delivery of audio visual services using high capacity omnidirectional technology. I think you mean broadcast. Clearly, in 1980, you absolutely cannot do 'video on demand' for everyone. The playback technology diddn't

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-15 Thread Dominic Smith
From the International Telecommunications Union Radio Regulations: Television: A form of telecommunication for the transmission of transient images of fixed or moving objects. (where 'telecommunication' is defined in the annex to the Constitution of the International Telecommunication Union as:

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-15 Thread Rain
Wot that pastime you only end up doing if you really, really have nothing better to to do instead? (okay, 'Thick of it' is alright...) R --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Dominic Smith d...@domsmith.co.uk wrote: From: Dominic Smith d...@domsmith.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] What is TV

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-15 Thread Frank Wales
Rain wrote: Wot that pastime you only end up doing if you really, really have nothing better to to do instead? Oh, I know, I know! Is it: debate the meaning of 'TV'? -- Frank Wales [fr...@limov.com] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

[backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
Discuss. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
That's what people who haven't bought a computer yet do, isn't it pops? Where people wait to be provided what's given? Don't they use a tube or something? 2009/12/14 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net Discuss. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk:

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Mo McRoberts
On 14-Dec-2009, at 21:24, Brian Butterworth wrote: That's what people who haven't bought a computer yet do, isn't it pops? Where people wait to be provided what's given? Don't they use a tube or something? That’s “a TV”, the device. what is “TV” the medium? :) -- mo mcroberts

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Tim Dobson
Mo McRoberts wrote: Discuss. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/TV Ends. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive:

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
2009/12/14 Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net On 14-Dec-2009, at 21:24, Brian Butterworth wrote: That's what people who haven't bought a computer yet do, isn't it pops? Where people wait to be provided what's given? Don't they use a tube or something? That’s “a TV”, the device. what is “TV”

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Ian Stirling
Mo McRoberts wrote: Discuss. TV is live simultaneous transmission of pictures, where you can have a large number of people over a significant distance watching one event. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Ian Stirling
Ian Stirling wrote: Mo McRoberts wrote: Discuss. TV is live simultaneous transmission of pictures, where you can have a large number of people over a significant distance watching one event. Or to be more accurate, simultanenous reception of a television program service licenced under

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
Another way of looking at TV is that is the delivery of audio visual services using high capacity omnidirectional technology. 2009/12/15 Ian Stirling backstage...@mauve.plus.com Ian Stirling wrote: Mo McRoberts wrote: Discuss. TV is live simultaneous transmission of pictures, where you

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
Compare the other international networks: - Internet - peer-to-peer, mixed bandwidth, interactive - PSTN* - one-to-one, fixed 64kbps bandwidth, switched - TV - omnidirectional, high bandwidth, broadcast - radio - omnidirectional, low bandwidth, broadcast And these depreciated networks: - telex

Re: [backstage] What is TV?

2009-12-14 Thread Dave Crossland
2009/12/15 Ian Stirling backstage...@mauve.plus.com: Mo McRoberts wrote: Discuss. TV is live simultaneous transmission of pictures, I'm not sure live transmission is definitional; most TV isn't live, although it started off that way AIUI. where you can have a large number of people over a