[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
asured was significantly less than ordinary contemporary lutes - around 12mm rgds M --- On Tue, 4/10/11, Rob MacKillop wrote: From: Rob MacKillop Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele To: "sterling price" Cc: "BAROQUE-LUTE" Da

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread dyoung5...@wowway.com
If you keep the little finger on or behind the bridge, where its supposed to be, there is no problem. Look at all the pictures.  Read the instructions. Stretch the thumb toward the rose. Flatten the hand. I'm still working at it. "Baroque" lute only. 1600 on...Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phon

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Edward Martin
When I started baroque lute 30 years ago (!!), I had difficulty at first, but I learned to accommodate the stretches. On 13 course lute, I seldom rest the pinky on the soundboard, and when playing the first 2 courses with my middle or ring finger (with the thumb on 12th or 13th course), they (

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Benjamin Narvey
Indeed. Martin Haycock made my 13c with 142 spacing after Hoffman, and it works great for me; not only is it much easier to play treble and bass, but sweeps and French fingerings in particular are much, much easier. Mind, I do have very small hands. Sent from my iPhone On 4 oct. 2011, at 2

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Rob MacKillop
That's getting on the wide side, Sterling. Would you have a problem with Bar 4 of L'Infidele? I agree that close spacing is difficult. I don't know how people can play with a string band of less than 148, but they do. People find a way. Rob www.robmackillop.net On 4 Oct 2011, at 22:34, sterli

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread sterling price
The bridge spacing I use is 157mm and is based on a large Edlinger. Whenever I play a lute with a spacing much smaller than this, I find it very difficult to play. --Sterling From: Rob MacKillop To: BAROQUE-LUTE Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 2:05 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUT

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'infidele

2011-10-04 Thread William Samson
for thought! Bill [1]http://jdf.luth.pagesperso-orange.fr/Images/Baron.jpg From: Christopher Wilke To: Rob MacKillop ; William Samson Cc: "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2011, 18:21 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'infidele Bil

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Christopher Wilke
n't really say. Chris Christopher Wilke Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com --- On Tue, 10/4/11, William Samson wrote: > From: William Samson > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'infidele > To: "Rob MacKillop" > Cc: "baroque-lute@cs.d

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'infidele

2011-10-04 Thread William Samson
istence? Any thoughts? Bill From: Rob MacKillop To: Louis Aull Cc: "" Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2011, 17:21 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'infidele Is there a notable difference between the London and Dresden scores in how Weiss actually played? I see the L

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Rob MacKillop
Is there a notable difference between the London and Dresden scores in how Weiss actually played? I see the London ms as what we might call 'Early Weiss' - 11c, 12c and 13c bass rider lutes, dramatic harmony, shorter dance movements, fingered bass notes on low courses - and Dresden as 'Late We

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Louis Aull
--=_NextPart_001_0002_01CC828B.B8FC28A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob, I'll second the lifting of the pinky off the soundboard. If you watch some of the videos of this suite and other Weiss suites, some performers, perhaps without

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Rob MacKillop
lly, Diana Poulton had small hands, and she always played with > her little finger on the bridge. > > Bill > From: Rob MacKillop > To: William Samson > Cc: Martyn Hodgson ; BAROQUE-LUTE > > Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2011, 12:44 > Subject: Re: [BAROQ

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread William Samson
m/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg19722.html > > Best regards, > Bill > From: Martyn Hodgson <[3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> > To: BAROQUE-LUTE <[4]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Rob MacKillop > <[5]robmackil...@gmail.com> > Sent:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
rally in the mid 140s. Perhaps reflecting local tastes? - but too small a sample to draw any clear conclusions. Martyn --- On Tue, 4/10/11, William Samson wrote: From: William Samson Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele To: "Martyn Hodgson" , "

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Rob MacKillop
: Martyn Hodgson > To: BAROQUE-LUTE ; Rob MacKillop > > Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2011, 10:25 > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele > Dear Rob, > It is a stretch but I do think the low A (ie 13th) is meant: the BL > MS > is very clear and there

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Christopher Wilke
e: > From: Rob MacKillop > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele > To: "Daniel Shoskes" > Cc: "BAROQUE-LUTE" > Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 6:31 AM > I can play the 13th and 1st courses > simultaneously without too much of a problem. I think the > pr

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread William Samson
011, 10:25 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele Dear Rob, It is a stretch but I do think the low A (ie 13th) is meant: the BL MS is very clear and there are no signs of an a on the 6th course being altered to a 6 (as we sometimes find elsewhere). I think there are t

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Rob MacKillop
I can play the 13th and 1st courses simultaneously without too much of a problem. I think the problem is having the index also on the 5th. Like Martin, I play closer to the bridge when the extremes are called for, and by and large I think I will manage it, but it isn't easy. Interesting that t

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Daniel Shoskes
The Dresden Ms version has that bass note up an octave. Nevertheless, it isn't the only example in Weiss of playing notes on the 1st and 13th course simultaneously (and if you travel further in time, Hagen and Falckenhagen) Danny On Oct 4, 2011, at 4:05 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: > Enjoying expl

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Rob, It is a stretch but I do think the low A (ie 13th) is meant: the BL MS is very clear and there are no signs of an a on the 6th course being altered to a 6 (as we sometimes find elsewhere). I think there are two factors here: 1. Clearly much depends on how one dispose

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread William Samson
Hi Rob, I have no knowledge of the source of this suite. Do you know if it is in Weiss's own hand? I'm opening myself up to brickbats here, but it is usual for classical guitarists to make slight alterations to the pieces they play, to suit their own physical characteristics and s