RE: BERNER-L - time to take drastic measures
i believe you can turn off the adds if you put it in the right mode. also you can create how you want your name or id to appear. i think i was able to change mine. it is tricky when you set the preferences since they would like to sell you the world. but i guess nothing is free. i do agree with you though in principle though. guess we really need to sing posts now! andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of S K Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BERNER-L - time to take drastic measures Only big drawback to yahoo is that people's names don't show up, just a yahoo id. Plus you have this commercials popping up when you do some search (: I'm going to miss my old Berner-l from prairienet. Sylvia Katvala and Neala Tucson, AZ
FW: [NaturalBerners] OT -- Ari update #3
this is a great way to help ari. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Lennon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NaturalBerners] OT -- Ari update #3 I would imagine that one could call the veterinary clinic with a VISA number as well. It might make donations easier for folks. Not from a trust aspect, just from a getting it done aspect. I know for me in Canada, it would be easier from a foreign funds aspect. I think that's what I'm gonna do. The phone number (looked it up on the internet) is (330) 452-8906. Wouldn't it be cool if she got there to pick her up and Ari's bill is paid!! That would be grand, indeed!! - Original Message - From: Karen Connors [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...If you feel moved to help in any way, you can send a check, no matter the amount ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT NaturalBerners Features found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalBerners/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: Kids clothes with Berners
there is one in tannersville pa, as well. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dr. William B. Neff Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Eve Lapolla Subject: Re:Kids clothes with Berners The Prime Outlets at Grove City, PA has a Hartstrings store and about one month ago, I bought 3 full outfits for my granddaughters. When I took some berner friends to the store last week, they both bought berner clothes for presents. Hartstrings also had an oxford shirt with a berner on the pocket, so I had to get it for Ella (4 years old.) I figured Gracie (13 1/2 months) and Bella (2 1/2 months) were too young for an oxford shirt. I bought them big enough so I'd have to wait for Christmas to give them to them. Eve Lapolla (By Jove)byjove.netalso carries some of the child's berner clothes. Joye Neff and Nicky (and Ben) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA --On Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:05 AM -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r I haven't had much time to participate but do check in now and then. Have a swiss import, Cita von Nesselacker (Nessli), now 5, second Berner to be the love of our lives. Anyway,I'm posting today because I bought my 3 year old human the cutest Berner themed clothes yesterday at a local store. Expensive, but irresistable! Made by Hartstrings, there is a sherpa style pullover, covered with Berners, and a turtleneck and overalls, all with berners! too cute! I haven't found them online yet, but www.hartstrings.com will give you a local retailer. I wish they had adult sizes! Don't forget www.swisstraditions.com for other berner stuff! Carina in Virginia
a team effort
sometimes help a dog in need requires a team effort. you all were great when it came to hugo and his chair. is there something we can do to band together and help cathi so that both her dogs have the best medical care possible. what if we were in her shoes? i certainly would be willing to help organize something. ideas? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor NaturalBerners Features found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalBerners/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
carting clinic
apparently there is a carting clinic in virginia this fall. it is a one or two day event. does anyone have the information. i would like woofit to learn carting, but classes are two hours away. a weekend clinic sounds great. thanks andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
i think it ends today. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugh Hayes Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Berner-Garde Fundraiser berner.org- homepage towards the bottom of the menu on the right. Original Message - From: Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:51 PM Subject: Berner-Garde Fundraiser SO what's up .. I haven't heard any thing on the Name the Berner fundraiser .. when does it end ??? Is Joye ok ..?? how about a link to the web page?? Teresa, Patriot and Romeo
RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
well at least i got two things right it ends in august and on a two digit that has a one in it. but there are ten more days left. so now i can send another check for the new items. i saw the etching and it is magnificent. so are the people who made it happen. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dr. William B. Neff Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser Nope...it doesn't end todayIn fact you have ten more days until the official ending of the Berner-Garde Fundraiser and then another week for your checks/cheques to reach me.SO.DON'T DILLY DALLY Visit the website and send me your money!! http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/ Joye Neff and Nicky! Pittsburgh, PA --On Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:53 PM -0400 Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r i think it ends today. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugh Hayes Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Berner-Garde Fundraiser berner.org- homepage towards the bottom of the menu on the right. Original Message - From: Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:51 PM Subject: Berner-Garde Fundraiser SO what's up .. I haven't heard any thing on the Name the Berner fundraiser .. when does it end ??? Is Joye ok ..?? how about a link to the web page?? Teresa, Patriot and Romeo
RE: Carting Equipment
i would start here they are owned by berners and the information they have to share is excellent and biomechanical correct. Wilczek Woodworks [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1786 Broomstick Hill Rd. Littleton NH 03561 p: 603-444-0824 http://www.geocities.com/wilczekwoodworks there is also a carting l and good links on http://www.whitebuffalographics.com/bernese/links/links.html have fun andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan Berlin Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:51 AM To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List Subject: Re: Carting Equipment Me, too! Susan (and Djinn and Riley) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:22 AM Subject: Carting Equipment Good morning, all. I am interested in trying carting with one of my dogs (the one with good elbows!) and my friend wants to start carting with her pair or Swissies. Can anyone suggest a source for buying beginners carting equipment, either online, catalog, or retail? We live in New Jersey. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Anne with Maddie and Titan Cranford, NJ
mars stripper
another great use of this handy tool was discovered this morning when woofit was sopping wet from a hot spot that was next to impossible to find because of his mop of hair on his upper shoulder area. i was able to thin out the area and not leave him shaved. it was amazing! andrea
robot vacuum
i know there was talk of this when they first hit the market. has anyone actually tried having it pick up berner hair? andrea
watchung
is there a new site for the bmd club of watchung. i have not gotten anything in the mail about the specialty. i did find that the show superintendent is in ohio, http://www.bpdsonline.com/. i would like to get more info if possible. andrea
blowing coat-intact female
i know that hormones determine blowing coat in an intact female. i do not understand what is happening with chi. she is 17 months old. she had her first heat at 14 months. she blew her coat and hardly shed a hair since then (up until last week), now he hair is flying out. it is all over the place big time. she is healthy, has been on an herbal formula for fly biting for the last three months. she did travel with me to ohio for a petmassage course, but loved every minute of it and came back much more daring. any ideas? andrea and chi
link to petshealthcare
http://www.petshealthplan.com/documents/brochure%20clarendon.pdf sorry i never realized that it would be difficult to find them on line. it is the word plan in the name that makes searching difficult. andrea
RE: AKC's Pet Healthcare Plan
this plan is administered by petshealthcare. petshealthcare has three levels not two. the middle level of petshealthcare gives you more for less money. the akc plan is skeletal in it's basic plan, the highest plan is similar to the akc plus plan. the middle one is the real bargain since it provides for much more than the basic akc plan. hope i have not confused everyone. both plans offer 100.00 deductible for the year. this is another plus. most other plans out there offer a 50.00 per incident deductible. both the akc and petshealthcare pay 80% of the remainder of the bill, if the costs re within reasonable and customarily fees. this is not always the case with a neuter where blood work is performed or special care is taken. your vet bill may be bigger than what they think it should be in which case they pay 80% of the reasonable and customary fee, not your vet bill. we have been happy with petshealthcare. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pat Long Paul Dangel Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:03 PM To: 'Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List' Subject: AKC's Pet Healthcare Plan While we're mentioning insurance plans, I thought this was worth a look. http://www.petpartnersinc.com/ They have a list of frequently asked questions, and the basics are: Premier Plan, helps pay the cost of -an annual physical exam, -veterinary exams due to illness or injury, -veterinary procedures and surgery, -prescriptions, -diagnostic procedures and laboratory tests, -X-rays, -hospitalization, -and other treatments as indicated in the plan terms and conditions. Cost starts at $24/month. Premier Plus Plan, helps pay the cost of everything covered in the Premier Plan, PLUS -vaccinations, -boosters, -heartworm testing and prevention medication, -flea treatments, -an annual dental cleaning, and other preventive measures as indicated in the plan terms and conditions. Cost starts at $41.50/month. Coverage for all of the US, US territories, and Canada. The deductible is $100 total for the plan period. This means that the most you will pay in deductibles is $100 regardless of how many times your pet is treated during the plan period. Your co-payment is 20% of each covered claim up to the plan limit. Dogs do not have to be AKC registered in order to be covered. Dogs under the age of 9 are eligible to be covered. Pre-existing conditions are not covered. - I had heard somewhere that genetic conditions would not be covered, but the only thing I've seen about it specifically is in the August 2003 Dog World issue, in which they state: ... all breeds are eligible for full coverage, with no higher fees for specific breeds, and no breed-specific hereditary conditions are excluded. When a dog is registered with the AKC, they will receive a free 60-day policy. According to the AKC the first 30 days covers injury, and the next 30 days covers both injury and illness, including diagnostic procedures and laboratory tests. I've always preferred not to carry insurance on my dogs, since I'm good at saving and having money set aside for emergencies. If I use enough vet services to have it pay for itself, then someone else is paying more money than they needed to so that there is enough there for me. And if I pay more for the insurance money than I get back in covered vet expenses, well, then I'm paying more than I need to and someone else is getting that money. It's a way of leveling risk for everyone, but the insurance company makes money. So we're paying a premium to let someone else save for us. I could never justify it for veterinary expenses. For human health care - that's a whole other matter! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA
mars coat king
i too have one, has anyone used it on their dog's back. woofit is blowing his coat and there is always more fur there than i can believe. i filled a mixing bowl with fur the other day. i am using a rake with teflon to get it out a rake type brush. should i try the coat king. he tends to be curly. thanks andrea
RE: Cancer Studies
i was confused as well. the confusion is that there are two different studies. this is what jill wrote back to me. Any willing Berner can be involved! If you send me your mailing address I will send you 2 kits with instructions how to take the cheek swabs from Woofit and Chi. You will also have a pre-addressed, pre-stamped envelope in which to return the kits. I will need both dogs pedigrees and AKC numbers as well. jill's e mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vicky Whitney Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cancer Studies I'm a little confused (well, okay, I admit that's the way I spend most of my waking hours). I'd be more than willing to have my two participate in whatever studies can use them. But as they're both young (3 1/2 and 23 months), I was under the impression from earlier posts that they could not be part of any current study. Would someone please explain exactly what dogs these studies are looking for, i.e. ages, health history, etc? Thanks! Vicky Whitney in Bozeman, Montana _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: Personal Checks
a few months ago someone told me of a place with a midwest type name where you could order checks. i thought it was actually a bank. does anyone remember? thanks andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martha Hoverson Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Personal Checks Several months ago there was a link posted, I believe, to a company that makes personal checks with some sort of Berner image. Does anyone still have that information? If so, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks, Martha Hoverson, Molly and Sam (making it our mission to bring all the soil from the backyard into the house!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Portland, Maine _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: Collar Input-Thank you!!
woofit pants a lot. he pants when he is hot, nervous, excited. he sometimes pants like he has a breathing problem. my mother once called him heavy breather! chi on the other had does not pant as much. if i stroke woofit gently and take deep breaths it relaxes him and he stops panting. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karen Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:03 AM To: Berner List Subject: Collar Input-Thank you!! Dear Listers, Just wanted to extend a warm thank you for all the input I have received concerning my question about pinch collars. I have tried to respond to as many as I could personally, but if I missed anyone please accept my apologies. Your information, links, and insight are so appreciated, as always. Now I have another question. Do any of your beloved Berners constantly pant. I have been kind of concerned over Stevie's constant panting. He pants whether it is cool or not, whether he is being exercised or not. It is almost all the time. I have asked the vet about it, but she doesn't think that it is anything to worry about. But of course I WORRY about my gentle giant and just need some reassurance. Maybe I need to get a second opinion, or maybe I am just being paranoid!! Any thoughts or input would be appreciated, Again!! Big Berner Hugs and Kisses Karen and Stevie NB,Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.484 / Virus Database: 282 - Release Date: 27/05/2003
RE: Karen and Stevie-Collars.
this is the sporn harness. we have had great success with it. the company is great about replacement pieces as well. there is another similar one out, but it puts some pressure on the chest. this one is totally biomechanically sound. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Liz Steinweg Crew Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Berner List Subject: Re: Karen and Stevie-Collars. Karen -- Take a look at the no-pull harness shown here: http://www.petsmart.com/dog/shopping/collars%5F%5Fleashes%5F%5F%5Fid%5Ftags/ harnesses%5Fand%5Fmuzzles/products/product%5F11833.shtml. We used a very similar one on 2 of our dogs who pulled terribly - a 65 lb husky-x and a 95 lb intact BMD boy. Works well - does not inflict pain, but rather causes discomfort under the arms ONLY when the dog pulls. Worked great for us - after a few weeks we could put it away and had well behaved dogs on leash! Liz Steinweg The Crew Blue Moon's Baloo Berry Torte Balou (11/06/1995) Bobby Sox (husky-x 10/31/1993) Rio Sahara (the Rat Cats) and in loving memory of my 1st BMD - Toby (6/29/97 - 6/30/00 lost to MH) Colorado Springs CO http://www.ccrtiming.com/personal/personal.htm - Original Message - If I have him on leash and he sees a bird that he would like to get to know or anything else that strikes his fancy, he just about pulls my arm out of the socket. A friend of mine uses a pinch collar and I just wanted an opinion on them.
raffle
a special thanks to all of you who responded to my request for back issues of the whole world journal. i got more responses than i had articles. but there will be more---i will be sending joye a check to honor all of you. i will put your names into the raffle. thanks again for sharing your libraries with me. andrea
whole dog journal past issues
i am looking for the following articles from the whole dog journal. if you have any of them and would be willing to copy them for me and mail or e mail them i would be so appreciative. i will be happy to cover all costs. i am pursuing becoming certified in massage. andrea Putting It All Together May 2000 Pre- and Post-Sports Massage August 2000 A Touch Should Do It July 1998 Petting With a Purpose December 1999 Knead Your Dog January 2000 Conscious Contact April 1998 Compression Technique April 2000
quad chair storage
since i the Librarian of orthopedic berner equipment, i need to find a home for the quad chair that we got for hugo. Is there anyone in the Pasadena/Burbank area, or the San Fernando valley or San Gabriel valley? that is near to where donna is. i just need a spot in someone's basement or garage. if we ship it east and then it is needed west again we are wasting a lot of money. thanks andrea
accidents and pre heat behavior
is there any relationship between the tendency to have urine accidents in the house by a female in whom a male is actively interested and bothersome. woofit has been driving chi crazy, there is no sign of blood as of yet, and chi who never had any accidents has had two, the last in the crate while being licked and pursued by woofit. thanks andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
RE: Scrubs
thanks, i did that too. many of searches did not pan out, i did order these http://www.dynastyforpetlovers.com/DOGPAGE.HTM. it will be interesting when he walks into the cardiac cath lab with the on. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Patricia Tackett Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scrubs Andrea, Here's what I found doing a www.google.com search for Bernese related scrubs: www.1barkavenue.com/store/bernese.shtml www.doggieinwindow.com/bmdsrcset1.htm www.mines.edu/fs_home/cschamau/bmd/frames/wear.html About halfway down the page there's a description of the Berner scrubs: Berner scrub tops, scrub jackets and caps, etc. S.C.R.U.B.S Uniform Co. Sells mostly clothing for health care professionals. In addition to the items mentioned below, they have hair accessories, surgical hats, etc. Stores in Phoenix, AZ and So. California. Call for locations. SCRUBS 8665 Argent St. Suite D Santee, CA 92071 Orders: (800) 231-5965 Hours (Pacific Time) 5:00 am - midnight Monday - Friday 7:00am - 6:00pm Saturday 8:00am - 4:00pm Sunday o Phone: (619) 448-1345 o Fax: (619) 448-0306 The fabric, called My Dog, is a multi-print black/brown/tan/white design that includes Berners! Available Items: Basic Scrub Top (1 pocket on left chest, can be worn tucked in or out) $23 - $28 XS-XL Alternative Plus Top(1 pocket on left chest and 2 big pockets on the bottom front, to be worn out)$26 - $32 XS-XL Pat Tackett Texas __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
sleeping position
does anyone's dog sleep with one paw rotated in with their head resting on it rather that both paw straight ahead. i am trying to determine if this rotation is unusual since chi has had some subluxcations at c1 and c3 due to trauma. thanks andrea
RE: puppy feeding
i am in the process of trying to make some sense of all this from a nutritionist's point of view. i am looking at documents from cornell etc. when i learn something i will pass it on. i believe my human nutrition background will permit me to understand some of the ratios etc that were developed. since i do not feed kibble i did not delve into the data when my dogs were pups. from a professional standpoint know i am curious enough to try and get to the bottom of this. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Mohapp Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:17 PM To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List Subject: Re: puppy feeding Rose: I do have to be careful about my comments on Large Breed puppy Formulas for dogs.I am not a Nutritionist and I do NOT want to mislead any new puppy owners. However, one of my concerns however lies in the fact that the pet food industry wants to accommodate the consumer and some times it gets rather trendy. In reviewing research about large breed formulas I have found that most of the research was conducted by the manufacturers of dog food and pet food industry. As we all know with large breed dogs there is inherited risk, environmental stress, and nutrition affecting the well being and development of the dog. I have seen some Berner pups that were kept so lean that they looked emaciated. ( I am not talking about the typical lanky and awkward stage in pups that are not mature dogs) So - I am continuing to research this but I believe that excess weight on a dog may be more of a culprit than what the exact ratio of protein in foods. Owners still have to control portions and if Berner pups are not supposed to have heavy exercise than it makes sense that the amount they are fed needs to be considered. I can share some of my resources with you and possibly you can share some of yours with me. I may not have looked at some of the independent research that you may be aware of. I am still learning and do read a lot from a variety of sources. I do not believe that many vets are well versed in nutrition - maybe vet schools are changing this. I think medical doctors were accused of the same thing at one point? But thank you! I always appreciate your information and it often helps me switch gears in my thinking. Mark Mohapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
conditioner
i ran out of conditioner while finishing woofit's bath. does anyone know of some natural/organic product i can put on him without wetting him down first. thanks andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
RE: Cost of a Berner
don't forget the resources we have at www.berner.org http://www.berner.org/compilations/pdf_links.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 7:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cost of a Berner Kenny Thanks for opening up this valuable conversation with your question about the cost of keeping a Berner - healthy or not.It's the kind of issue that once you has fallen in love with a dog (or person, horse or car)most of us don't necessarily care to examine. I would encourage any prospective puppy owner to visit the Drs. Foster Smith website read Cost of A Dog. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2cat=1671articleid=1543 It's an enlightening article -there are far more expenses than you would think. Once owned/loved by a Berner it feels like having a child and the thought of not doing everything I could is painful to contemplate. That's the kicker: to avoid finding yourself in the position where you have to make a difficult choice to treat or not treat a dog with an illness based on finances rather than the diagnosis, prognosis and efficacy of a specific treatment. The cost of veterinary care in the northeast many urban areas is more than in other parts of the country. I try to keep about $2500.-3000. available for emergencies.For some dogs I have used that fund - for others it was never touched. This is the way I avoid making veterinary decisions on a financial basis. I have also chosen NOT to treat dogs with life threatening illnesses because of their age (over 8) and the quality of life they would enjoy and euthanize them instead. Joy is a big issue for me: as companion dogs I feel they are here only because of our pleasure/stewardship and my dogs must have sufficient joy or chance of joy in the near future. Each owner must make this very personal decision it involves not only the family finances but ethical values, religious beliefs, education about a particular illness (Thank you Pat Long and the berner-l community) and informed, sensitive veterinary care.. Pet insurance is new and there are owners who are pleased and others who are disappointed with what they purchased:another individual choice where there is not much rock solid data. There are no right or wrong choices - only ones that are made without sufficient forethought planning. Read, read and read some more because once that gorgeous ball of affection and fluff walks in your home you'll not have lots of time to educate yourself! Thanks for stimulating a good discussion and welcome to the Berner community. Peace, Linda Seaver Belline Bedford, New York
los angeles area
looking for berner owned families in this area of california willing to help with a few questions about climate, berners and needs specific to the area. thanks andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
berner-garde form
i just got a berner garde form. i must say i have not been so confused in a long time. do i fill in the details for my dogs. i did not even know it had to be returned until i went to file it and saw the second side. are others as confused? andrea
hugo, behalf, and rehab
as many of you know we have successfully raised enough money for a chair for hugo. this chair will be passed on to any other berner who is in need of it. it has been suggest to donna that she get another mri for hugo. this would establish what hugo's neurological status truly is and would give rehabilitation guidance. obviously after the two surgeries, multiple mri's etc the cost is prohibitive. we have made hugo a special fund of behalf. what that means is that if you would like to contribute money to help with hugo's mri you can send a check to behalf with that purpose clearly stated. the money will then go to help foot the bill. BEHAF 25421 Wagner Rd Caldwell ID 83607 Or use your Visa or MC to instantly send your donation via Paypal:NOTE: if you wish your Paypal donation to be applied to a specific BEHAF fund, please send us an e-mail with your instructions. thanks for helping hugo andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
RE: Doggon Wheels, et al
i could not agree more. i am calling in my donation in a few minutes. checks are not the way to go in this case unless we can just take some of the donated money from stevie and earmark it for hugo and someone lay out the money until the check is received. i would be willing to do that. sort of like a loan. i never wanted this to be my project. i just used all the resources i could to help find someone to make or donate a chair. actually doggon were not the only people who responded. everyone is so impressed by the love of this community, they jumped right in. this is not about our egos it is about hugo's health. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rusty C Wingate Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:22 PM To: Pat Long Paul Dangel Cc: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List Subject: Re: Doggon Wheels, et al This was not done to handicap Andrea or BEHAF in anyway, it was done to expedite the chair for Hugie! I also thought it was 'on top of' and so yesterday called doggone to see how the production was going only to find there was no production and to just start the chair they needed 75% of the total amount. Yes, Melissa was getting plans for building one but Donna did not trust her building abilities so yes, the fund is started at the company. At this point if folks mail checks to one place then that place waits for them to clear then has to mail the funds the two weeks for the chairs production would have passed. Hugo needs this chair yesterday, it still must be built. So instead of hashing whose baby it is and talking back and forth more and wasting more time. Let's work together and get this chair in production . Bet Ellen with her horse sense can tell ya what immobility does to a giant. So yes, let's work together, time is already lost and Hugo is still down, let's get him up and give him a chance, who cares 'who's baby' it isit is Donna's baby Hugo that matters. I tain't no talker when time is a wasting .. Thanx to whoever donated this daythank you so muchwe are that much closer to starting the chair ! Rusty C praying for a small miracle What one does is what counts and not what one had the intentions of doing - Pablo Picasso
RE: Berner in Shelter
how could a dog like this end up roaming around and then in a shelter. wonder who the breeder is. i would think they would want to know about him. i actually might have a home for him. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nobles.Carrie Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 2:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Berner in Shelter Petfinder PetNotes.url http://www.petfinder.org/pet.cgi?action=2pet=1412164adTarget=468doggeneral SessionID=3e47f5571e819de1-app1display=preview=0row=25 This is a link to Animal Alliance of Belle Meade, NJ which is currently caring for Teddy, an 8-mo-old male Berner. Hopefully a nearby List member can check him out and help find a home for this gorgeous young lad. Carrie Nobles * The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
stevie and karen
anyone have an old laptop kicking around that karen could borrow. i am certain i am not the only one that thinks she should still have the luxury of the internet at home and selfishly want to hear about stevie. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
harness
has anyone used a harness that inhibits pulling with their dog. i am not talking about a halti or gentle leader, just an old fashioned no pull harness? thanks andrea
RE: Quad Chair
thanks, i have been working on getting a chair for hugo. we have three companies interested in helping him out with a loaner, rental or refurbished chair. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Quad Chair I have e-mailed Hugo's mom privitely, but thought others on the L might like to know that Wheelchairsfordogs.com, make something called a 4 Wheeler chair.You have to contact them as it is not on their website. Daisy and Chance
RE: Random thoughts, Stevie and BEHAF
actually we have gotten a good response from a few companies. dogon wrote me back asking for all the info. once we succeed with this i would like to create a lending library for apparatus so to speak for berners in need. there has to be a way to make hugo more comfortable. andrea
RE: Random thoughts, Stevie and BEHAF
maybe behalf could help out by helping to find hugo a set of wheels he could practice with. it would truly be wonderful if we could be a resource to dogs like hugo as well. it is truly a wonderful thing that behalf exists as part of this wonderful community. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:52 AM To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'John Stuive'; 'Gwyndean Candelaria' Subject: Random thoughts, Stevie and BEHAF Can you all tell I've had a bit of insomnia tonight? Been up since 2:15 EST. I just wanted to comment on the recent events re:Stevie and Karen. First I love Stevie Nicks so you already had me right there. But, Karen I have been following all your posts on Stevie. I am so happy he is making such progress. But the recent post about BEHAF and Stevie possibly being a Special Friend just blew me away. First I was so happy that people had suggested that Stevie be made a SF of BEHAF. That's exactly why the SF catagory was started. But to then hear that someone offered to pay all your medical bills, Karenwell I was just floored. Seriously I lost it. To that most generous person, there is a special place in Berner Heaven waiting for you. Now I promise I will try not to send 3 e-mails on the same day again, Pat. Much love to Karen, Stevie and the wonderful benefactor. And please remember BEHAF, and the Special Friends catagory. It is in existence for those not so fortunate as Karenthey either don't qualify or are reluctant to accept funding.but have captured the sympathies of the berner community, that is what the SF's category is for. All funds go directly to the designated SF [any amount over the needed funds go into the BEHAF general fund] . Much love to that special person who took care of Stevies medical bills. And all my best too Karen and Stevie. Cathi with Bacchus and Ari visit BEHAF www.BEHAF.com see memorials, favorite dog poems and send digital berner postcards!
2003 specialty list
what are the requirements for joining the yahoo list? i was rejected. perhaps there was a yahoo glitch. that has happened to me once before. thanks andrea
RE: Happy Birthday!
we do dog biscuits with yogurt between them and then freeze. sort of like a dog ice cream sandwich. it is fun to do with the slightly larger shape treats like the postman, cats, etc. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Mary Morgan Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:42 AM To: heather moye; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Happy Birthday! For Nola's birthday, we put a candle in a plate of special -high quality- canned food. (she only eats kibble) She loved it! Is it safe to give Pongo some cake? What is a doggy alternative? Take care, Pongo and his birthday slaves! ;o) Washington, DC _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
FW: Suzanne Clothier Article
-Original Message- From: Andrea Brin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Suzanne Clothier Article i just recently starting reading the book as well. first i ordered it from barnes and noble, then found it in the library, thought i would return the copy i had not started reading yet, and after reading a few chapters know i want it to be a part of my library. it is not a dog book. it is a living and being book about our values, interactions and care with each other and our animals. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Suzanne Clothier Article
FW: eating poop
-Original Message- From: Andrea Brin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: eating poop i strongly believe that there is a digestive imbalance problem when dogs do this! adding a good complete digestive enzymes is suggested in the medical literature and usually works. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patricia McIlveen Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:30 PM To: 'berner-l' Subject: RE: eating poop All, I have two poop-eating dogs. Reba does it 'naturally', so to speak. Always has, always will. Unfortunately, I think Gus learned it from her. He didn't used to, but now does. It does not bother them; they have never been ill from it. It bothers both me and my husband tremendously. Because it bothers us, I have done a *huge* amount of reading. My conclusion after research is that it is not a behaviour that can be changed (much) but only managed. I am unwilling to change their body chemistry by feeding them something to make the poop they produce unattractive. They'll only find other poopsicles to eat on off-leash romps (and I don't like that many other people don't pick up after their dogs!!! Thank you so much, lazy people!) and I am not willing to deny them their off-leash exercise. So I pick up every deposit they make *immediately.* I have taught them both leave it! and that works sometimes, and others not. The primary management technique at our house is to refuse kisses, to use leave it, and to try to just get over our humancentric disgust (unsuccessfully). So very sorry, Patricia McIlveen (Yeoman, Reba Gus) Calgary, AB Canada
RE: BMD pups on petfinder?!?!?
actually if you do a search on their site there are many more and the angels for animals link where many are housed actually has a photo of three baby berners for their adopt-a-thon. http://www.angelsforanimals.org/. strange there are so many in arizona. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Judith Johnson Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:06 PM To: Berner Mailing List Subject: BMD pups on petfinder?!?!? 2 BMD baby's on petfinder with a group that only has baby's and young dogs??? Somebody help!!! http://www.petfinder.org/pet.cgi?action=2pet=1348280adTarget=468petsgenera lSessionID=3e25aebd65431682-app2display=preview=1row=50 http://www.petfinder.org/pet.cgi?action=2pet=1348282adTarget=468petsgenera lSessionID=3e25aebd65431682-app2display=preview=1row=50
berner in chatham mass.
a friend of mine told me of a beautiful berner who has been running the beach with his dedicated owner in chatham on cape cod. anyone know to whom he belongs? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
sandicast
i am looking for a small (not life-size) sandicast berner or its equivalent. does anyone remember who sells them? thanks andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
exuberant behavior
has any one experience behavior that is so exuberant upon greeting you that it is out of control. our 10.5 month old goes nuts when she sees us. she cries, jumps, hugs and even traps your leg so you can't move. this is getting worse. i know she wants her own individual attention away from our 17 month old berner. i also know that she is so emotionally needy when this behavior occurs, that she works herself up to almost hysterical. turning away. telling her to sit, etc has not proved successful. if i go to the other dog first she gets his attention and then they both fight for mine. any ideas? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
RE: Soft treats
not a recipe but there are great soft treats from www.sitstay.com andrea
specialty
how do i get a planning guide. also who do i speak with about volunteering? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
dremel question
woofit and chi now have a dremel. it is cordless and has two speeds. it comes with a collet on it and some accessories. can you use the collet alone? what should we ideally use for their nails. this is a lot more complicated than i thought it would be. their groomer just grinds! thanks andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
montana raw
http://www.morrills.com/montana.htm what about this source? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
RE: Carob
it should be, but it is so closely related to soy that i would not use it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carob has no chocolate in it, and also has no theobromine, so I suppose it would be safe for dogs. Does anyone know for sure?
twitching and belly rubs
when you rub your berner's tummy are there spots that make the rear legs twitch. it seems to happen more with one of mine than the other. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
RE: Nose to Nose
amazon has the book, so does by jove andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
[no subject]
do you know the book/pamphlet from dog wise called the cautious canine. i got it from dogwise. perhaps it would help star and some of her barc friends. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
sources for carts
i am looking for a two wheeled wagon like cart for woofit and a good harness that is biomechanically correct. any ideas? most of the links that i have found are too old to work. thanks andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
posters
just wondering who bought posters to promote ppo education. i did and have been dropping them off ever pet place i see. what have you done with yours? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
rescue in california
what groups are likely to know of berners needing rooming in california? is anyone active in rescue there? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
RE: Philly Show Results
how do we find out their owners? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
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magnetic pads
http://www.gracies.com/magnetpads.html hope this helps. i actually like these better than the one in stores andrea
in need of a large stuffed berner
anyone living on the east coast and able to send me a costco berner? we don't have any stores here and my relatives tried and did not succeed. thanks andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
how much is that dog in the window
http://www.marketplace.org/features/doggie_in_the_window/ i heard part of this on the way home. check it out. there was a good clip on pet insurance as well. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
nose to nose
i am looking to buy a copy of nose to nose, but i can't seem to find the source. does anyone know it? thanks andrea
