Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-16 Thread Pindar Wong
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote: Hi Mike Well thank you for replying openly on this topic, its helpful. I apologise in advance if this gets quite to the point and at times blunt, but transparency is important, and we owe it to the users who see Bitcoin

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-16 Thread Peter Todd
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 08:33:31PM +0800, Pindar Wong wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote: Dear Adam, All: At the community's convenience, it would be an honour to arrange an initial open summit to meet with representatives of the Chinese miners in

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-16 Thread Pindar Wong
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Peter Todd p...@petertodd.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 08:33:31PM +0800, Pindar Wong wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote: Dear Adam, All: At the community's convenience, it would be an honour to arrange an

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-16 Thread Mike Hearn
Hi Bryan, Specifically, when Adam mentioned your conversations with non-technical people, he did not mean Mike has talked with people who have possibly not made pull requests to Bitcoin Core, so therefore Mike is a non-programmer. Yes, my comment was prickly and grumpy. No surprises, I did

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-16 Thread Mike Hearn
How do you plan to deal with security incident response for the duration you describe where you will have control while you are deploying the unilateral hard-fork and being in sole maintainership control? How do we plan to deal with security incident response - exactly the same way as

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-15 Thread Alex Morcos
Aaron, My understanding is that Gavin and Mike are proceeding with the XT fork, I hope that understanding is wrong. As for improving the non-consensus code to handle full blocks more gracefully. This is something I'm very interested in, block size increase or not. Perhaps I shouldn't hijack

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-15 Thread Aaron Voisine
Thanks Alex, the work you've pointed out is helpful. Limiting mempool size should at least prevent nodes from crashing. When I looked a few days ago I only found a few old PRs that seemed to have fallen by the wayside, so this new one is encouraging. I can respond in the PR comments if it's more

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-15 Thread Eric Lombrozo
On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:54 PM, odinn odinn.cyberguerri...@riseup.net wrote: I also disagree with the notion that everybody's just ok with what Mike and Gavin are doing specifically, this statement by Mike The consensus you seek does exist. All wallet developers (except Lawrence), all

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-15 Thread Adam Back
Hi Mike Well thank you for replying openly on this topic, its helpful. I apologise in advance if this gets quite to the point and at times blunt, but transparency is important, and we owe it to the users who see Bitcoin as the start of a new future and the$3b of invested funds and $600m of VC

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-15 Thread Faiz Khan
I'm quite puzzled by the response myself, it doesn't seem to address some of the (more serious) concerns that Adam put out, the most important question that was asked being the one regarding personal ownership of the proposed fork: How do you plan to deal with security incident response for the

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-15 Thread Raystonn .
http://xtnodes.com/ From: Brian Hoffman Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:56 PM To: Faiz Khan Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork Who is actually planning to move to Bitcoin-XT if this happens? Just Gavin and Mike

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-15 Thread Brian Hoffman
Who is actually planning to move to Bitcoin-XT if this happens? Just Gavin and Mike? On Jun 15, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Faiz Khan faizkha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm quite puzzled by the response myself, it doesn't seem to address some of the (more serious) concerns that Adam put out, the most

Re: [Bitcoin-development] questions about bitcoin-XT code fork non-consensus hard-fork

2015-06-15 Thread Aaron Voisine
Wasn't the XT hard fork proposed as a last resort, should the bitcoin-core maintainers simply refuse to lift the 1Mb limit? No one wants to go that route. An alternate hard-fork proposal like BIP100 that gets consensus, or a modified version of gavin's that ups the limit to 8Mb instead of 20Mb, or