[Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in California?
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/4352954708.html Not something you see every day. I have only ever seen American Blackbelly horned rams here in California. But everyone calls them Barbado because they are unaware of the difference between Barbado and American blackbelly. Here, appears to be actual, polled Barbado blackbelly sheep. Cannot vouch for the purity of their breeding. Just passing it along in case anyone local is interested. -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in California?
It isn't uncommon for horned American Blackbelly stock to occasionally throw a polled ram. (Nor is it uncommon for polled Barbados Blackbelly sheep to plop out a ram lamb that grows scurs or horns.) But that doesn't make the polled ram a Barbados Blackbelly. Progeny testing using registered Barbados Blackbelly ewes will determine if that ram reliably produces polled ram lambs. In my experience, they do not. Also, the BBSAI's American Blackbelly registry and Barbados Blackbelly registry are both closed registries, meaning that in order to register sheep, their parents must both be registered. So whomever buys this lovely blackbelly family would be unable to register them. Judging from the white crown and tail on the lamb on the right, there is some evidence of cross-breeding already present. But for someone who simply wants to enjoy the benefits of raising the most beautiful sheep in the world with superb meat quality, this group would be a steal. I regularly sell my freezer lamb for $350 for a 90-lb ram lamb. $200 for four sheep is a good bargain. Carol At 11:18 AM 2/28/2014, you wrote: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/4352954708.html Here, appears to be actual, polled Barbado blackbelly sheep. Cannot vouch for the purity of their breeding. Just passing it along in case Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in California?
It is hard to tell if it is the price for just the ram or for all four. When I first read it I though they were selling just the ram. Jann Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Carol Elkins celk...@critterhaven.biz wrote: It isn't uncommon for horned American Blackbelly stock to occasionally throw a polled ram. (Nor is it uncommon for polled Barbados Blackbelly sheep to plop out a ram lamb that grows scurs or horns.) But that doesn't make the polled ram a Barbados Blackbelly. Progeny testing using registered Barbados Blackbelly ewes will determine if that ram reliably produces polled ram lambs. In my experience, they do not. Also, the BBSAI's American Blackbelly registry and Barbados Blackbelly registry are both closed registries, meaning that in order to register sheep, their parents must both be registered. So whomever buys this lovely blackbelly family would be unable to register them. Judging from the white crown and tail on the lamb on the right, there is some evidence of cross-breeding already present. But for someone who simply wants to enjoy the benefits of raising the most beautiful sheep in the world with superb meat quality, this group would be a steal. I regularly sell my freezer lamb for $350 for a 90-lb ram lamb. $200 for four sheep is a good bargain. Carol At 11:18 AM 2/28/2014, you wrote: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/4352954708.html Here, appears to be actual, polled Barbado blackbelly sheep. Cannot vouch for the purity of their breeding. Just passing it along in case Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in
Actually, it looks like the ewe has hornsoops! In all my years with American Blckbellies, I did have one ram who had tiny scurs instead of horns but never a ewe with horns. Sunny Goodier Northern Caliofornia -Original Message- From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of blackbelly-requ...@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 3:02 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/4352954708.html Not something you see every day. I have only ever seen American Blackbelly horned rams here in California. But everyone calls them Barbado because they are unaware of the difference between Barbado and American blackbelly. Here, appears to be actual, polled Barbado blackbelly sheep. Cannot vouch for the purity of their breeding. Just passing it along in case anyone local is interested. -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:49:17 -0700 From: Carol Elkins celk...@critterhaven.biz To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in California? Message-ID: 20140228184914.9775249...@diego.dreamhost.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed It isn't uncommon for horned American Blackbelly stock to occasionally throw a polled ram. (Nor is it uncommon for polled Barbados Blackbelly sheep to plop out a ram lamb that grows scurs or horns.) But that doesn't make the polled ram a Barbados Blackbelly. Progeny testing using registered Barbados Blackbelly ewes will determine if that ram reliably produces polled ram lambs. In my experience, they do not. Also, the BBSAI's American Blackbelly registry and Barbados Blackbelly registry are both closed registries, meaning that in order to register sheep, their parents must both be registered. So whomever buys this lovely blackbelly family would be unable to register them. Judging from the white crown and tail on the lamb on the right, there is some evidence of cross-breeding already present. But for someone who simply wants to enjoy the benefits of raising the most beautiful sheep in the world with superb meat quality, this group would be a steal. I regularly sell my freezer lamb for $350 for a 90-lb ram lamb. $200 for four sheep is a good bargain. Carol At 11:18 AM 2/28/2014, you wrote: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/4352954708.html Here, appears to be actual, polled Barbado blackbelly sheep. Cannot vouch for the purity of their breeding. Just passing it along in case Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz -- ___ This daily digest is from the Blackbelly mailing list. Visit this list's home page at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info/ End of Blackbelly Digest, Vol 10, Issue 13 ** ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in California?
Yes, I think you're right. But $200 for a ram isn't bad, even if he's not registerable, if you have a good market for lamb meat. He is a well-built guy and should make good sons. We blackbelly breeders are fortunate that we raise the best tasting meat available. Far superior to any other breed of sheep and better than beef (IMO). There is a good niche market out there if you take the time to develop it. You can get top dollar for your meat if you market it to the people who care about quality--and who can afford to pay for it. Carol At 04:20 PM 2/28/2014, you wrote: It is hard to tell if it is the price for just the ram or for all four. When I first read it I though they were selling just the ram. At 04:20 PM 2/28/2014, you wrote: But for someone who simply wants to enjoy the benefits of raising the most beautiful sheep in the world with superb meat quality, this group would be a steal. I regularly sell my freezer lamb for $350 for a 90-lb ram lamb. $200 for four sheep is a good bargain. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in California?
the Barbados as people call them here in California, are fairly plentiful as weed control and in my neighborhood of 1-10 acre semi-rural plots, there a few to a small flock on every street. i usually don't pay more than $80 for a fully grown animal, since there's no papers and/or control over breeding with other sheep. some are mutly looking, others like some of mine, conform pretty well to the standard for ABB. -MWS Sent from my iPad On Feb 28, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Carol J. Elkins celk...@awrittenword.com wrote: Yes, I think you're right. But $200 for a ram isn't bad, even if he's not registerable, if you have a good market for lamb meat. He is a well-built guy and should make good sons. We blackbelly breeders are fortunate that we raise the best tasting meat available. Far superior to any other breed of sheep and better than beef (IMO). There is a good niche market out there if you take the time to develop it. You can get top dollar for your meat if you market it to the people who care about quality--and who can afford to pay for it. Carol At 04:20 PM 2/28/2014, you wrote: It is hard to tell if it is the price for just the ram or for all four. When I first read it I though they were selling just the ram. At 04:20 PM 2/28/2014, you wrote: But for someone who simply wants to enjoy the benefits of raising the most beautiful sheep in the world with superb meat quality, this group would be a steal. I regularly sell my freezer lamb for $350 for a 90-lb ram lamb. $200 for four sheep is a good bargain. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in
I have several ewes with small horns. Jann Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Sunny wspri...@goldstate.net wrote: Actually, it looks like the ewe has hornsoops! In all my years with American Blckbellies, I did have one ram who had tiny scurs instead of horns but never a ewe with horns. Sunny Goodier Northern Caliofornia -Original Message- From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of blackbelly-requ...@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 3:02 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/4352954708.html Not something you see every day. I have only ever seen American Blackbelly horned rams here in California. But everyone calls them Barbado because they are unaware of the difference between Barbado and American blackbelly. Here, appears to be actual, polled Barbado blackbelly sheep. Cannot vouch for the purity of their breeding. Just passing it along in case anyone local is interested. -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:49:17 -0700 From: Carol Elkins celk...@critterhaven.biz To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in California? Message-ID: 20140228184914.9775249...@diego.dreamhost.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed It isn't uncommon for horned American Blackbelly stock to occasionally throw a polled ram. (Nor is it uncommon for polled Barbados Blackbelly sheep to plop out a ram lamb that grows scurs or horns.) But that doesn't make the polled ram a Barbados Blackbelly. Progeny testing using registered Barbados Blackbelly ewes will determine if that ram reliably produces polled ram lambs. In my experience, they do not. Also, the BBSAI's American Blackbelly registry and Barbados Blackbelly registry are both closed registries, meaning that in order to register sheep, their parents must both be registered. So whomever buys this lovely blackbelly family would be unable to register them. Judging from the white crown and tail on the lamb on the right, there is some evidence of cross-breeding already present. But for someone who simply wants to enjoy the benefits of raising the most beautiful sheep in the world with superb meat quality, this group would be a steal. I regularly sell my freezer lamb for $350 for a 90-lb ram lamb. $200 for four sheep is a good bargain. Carol At 11:18 AM 2/28/2014, you wrote: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/4352954708.html Here, appears to be actual, polled Barbado blackbelly sheep. Cannot vouch for the purity of their breeding. Just passing it along in case Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz -- ___ This daily digest is from the Blackbelly mailing list. Visit this list's home page at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info/ End of Blackbelly Digest, Vol 10, Issue 13 ** ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in
ahh well, i did not look closely at the ewes. was just very surprised to see a grown, developed and apparently, intact ram with no scurs, even. Even my weathered ABBs have pretty significant scurs, as well as most all my ewes. Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies Sent from my iPad On Feb 28, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Jann Bach mtnrdgr...@aol.com wrote: I have several ewes with small horns. Jann Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Sunny wspri...@goldstate.net wrote: Actually, it looks like the ewe has hornsoops! In all my years with American Blckbellies, I did have one ram who had tiny scurs instead of horns but never a ewe with horns. Sunny Goodier Northern Caliofornia -Original Message- From: blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of blackbelly-requ...@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 3:02 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/4352954708.html Not something you see every day. I have only ever seen American Blackbelly horned rams here in California. But everyone calls them Barbado because they are unaware of the difference between Barbado and American blackbelly. Here, appears to be actual, polled Barbado blackbelly sheep. Cannot vouch for the purity of their breeding. Just passing it along in case anyone local is interested. -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:49:17 -0700 From: Carol Elkins celk...@critterhaven.biz To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Actual Barbados Ram and ewes for sale in California? Message-ID: 20140228184914.9775249...@diego.dreamhost.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed It isn't uncommon for horned American Blackbelly stock to occasionally throw a polled ram. (Nor is it uncommon for polled Barbados Blackbelly sheep to plop out a ram lamb that grows scurs or horns.) But that doesn't make the polled ram a Barbados Blackbelly. Progeny testing using registered Barbados Blackbelly ewes will determine if that ram reliably produces polled ram lambs. In my experience, they do not. Also, the BBSAI's American Blackbelly registry and Barbados Blackbelly registry are both closed registries, meaning that in order to register sheep, their parents must both be registered. So whomever buys this lovely blackbelly family would be unable to register them. Judging from the white crown and tail on the lamb on the right, there is some evidence of cross-breeding already present. But for someone who simply wants to enjoy the benefits of raising the most beautiful sheep in the world with superb meat quality, this group would be a steal. I regularly sell my freezer lamb for $350 for a 90-lb ram lamb. $200 for four sheep is a good bargain. Carol At 11:18 AM 2/28/2014, you wrote: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/4352954708.html Here, appears to be actual, polled Barbado blackbelly sheep. Cannot vouch for the purity of their breeding. Just passing it along in case Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz -- ___ This daily digest is from the Blackbelly mailing list. Visit this list's home page at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info/ End of Blackbelly Digest, Vol 10, Issue 13 ** ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
