Re: [blackbelly] wooliness in sheep

2005-10-24 Thread Julian Hale
At 01:35 PM 10/24/2005, you wrote: Hi Julien, I've seen photos of sheep that simply are not good sheep because they are too wooly and it never sheds. There are a lot of crosses that do that. You'll know them when you see them. Your ram Art is borderline. If I were you, I'd wait another year

[blackbelly] Freemartins?

2005-11-02 Thread Julian Hale
I know with cattle, if there are twins, one male, one female, that female is usually sterile... what about sheep? Is this not an issue? I know that goats have mixed gender twins all the time, and I've never heard of it being a problem. Thanks, Julian

Re: [blackbelly] Ewe with Mastitis?

2006-01-16 Thread Julian Hale
It does sound like mastitis. Since she has claimed the lambs, leave them with mom and supplement their food with formula or goat milk. I have a ewe with mastitis right now, and my vet said that as long as she is eating and drinking, and there is not blood or stringy material coming out of

Re: [blackbelly] Number of lambs

2006-01-30 Thread Julian Hale
At 09:55 PM 1/30/2006, you wrote: It was my understanding that copper in excess of 18ppm was toxic, and often fatal to sheep. Am I mistaken in this? If so, what is the safe dosage? No, you're not mistaken... Helmut, why do you supplement copper? Did you maybe mean selenium? I know selenium

Re: [blackbelly] Delta Airlines - Pet Alert

2006-02-14 Thread Julian Hale
They killed a French Bulldog on the way to the Nationals in California last October, also. Gave the owner all kinds of grief on top of killing her dog, too. I'd boycott, but I don't fly anyway... Julian ___ This message is from the blackbelly

Re: [blackbelly] Scrapie Ear Tags

2006-03-15 Thread Julian Hale
At 08:00 AM 3/15/2006, Carol J. Elkins wrote: (I suppose we should be glad our sheep have any ears at all. The folks raising La Mancha goats (which are earless) have an interesting dilemma. I believe they tattoo, which is REALLY a pain--literally.) Yes... I bought a La Mancha last year, and her

[blackbelly] How do you teach a bottle lamb to drink?

2006-03-15 Thread Julian Hale
I've got two bottle lambs, almost 10 weeks old now. They're eating hay just fine, but they have not figured out the whole water thing, yet, so they still get bottles. I'd like to wean them, and get them acclimated to colder temperatures, but first they need to know how to drink water. Does

Re: [blackbelly] Question about ticks

2006-04-20 Thread Julian Hale
You could dust her with diatomaceous earth, or boric acid. Both should be safe. I don't know about the flea collar, they often don't work well for dogs. Also, having chickens and/or guineas running around should lower the tick count considerably. If she is inherently more susceptible to

Re: [blackbelly] thistle

2006-05-30 Thread Julian Hale
At 07:19 PM 5/27/2006, you wrote: Hay Julian, let me clue you in to another perfectly astonishing thing about BUCKWHEAT. It has a profound ability to take soil phosphorus which is unavailable to other plants, and when plowed in, release it in available form to other plants!!! When we had our

Re: [blackbelly] Mineral Mix

2006-05-30 Thread Julian Hale
At 07:32 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote: Barb, What is the mineral mix recipe that was from Pat Coleby? Maybe we aren't giving our sheep enough of what they need. We noticed that we had pretty small lambs this spring and a lot of singles - I was thinking that it was just the ewes taking a break from

Re: [blackbelly] Fwd: URGENT-Please help stop NAIS funding at least until it's fixed

2006-05-31 Thread Julian Hale
At 10:16 PM 5/16/2006, you wrote: This was sent by Nathan Griffith, editor of Sheep! Magazine. He obviously feels very strongly about this issue. In all the years I've read Sheep! Magazine, Nathan has never used his position as editor to try to affect an issue...until now. I urge you to contact

Re: [blackbelly] DE

2006-06-23 Thread Julian Hale
At 04:59 PM 6/22/2006, you wrote: Julian, can you quote your source? How could DE cut up internal worms and maggots, and not earthworms or dung beetle larvae? I am not challenging you, I'd just like to read it from the source. Thanks, Barb Well, as I said, it's anecdotal on the dung beetles.

Re: [blackbelly] DE

2006-06-23 Thread Julian Hale
At 06:40 PM 6/22/2006, you wrote: I don't know if it's true or not, but many sites say the DE you buy for the pool filters doesn't work the same as the 'nursery' or food grade DE. It may just be hype from the people that want you to buy the expensive DE, I don't know. Yes, you don't want the

Re: [blackbelly] crossing AB with Dorper?

2006-07-31 Thread Julian Hale
At 09:06 AM 7/31/2006, you wrote: Rhonda-- Why not grain? I can't answer for Rhonda, but I don't feed grain because: 1) Sheep aren't meant to eat grain. 2) Too expensive 3) It has a negative effect on the quality of the meat, both flavor and health factors Check out www.eatwild.com for

Re: [blackbelly] crossing AB with Dorper?

2006-08-05 Thread Julian Hale
At 10:43 AM 7/31/2006, you wrote: Negative effect on the meat? Since when? Where did you find this information? Corn has been the biggest feed lot food for decades. Not meant to eat grain? Again, where, why. My sheep have gotten out and head to the farmer field that's next to us. They

Re: [blackbelly] Old Meat, Scours Copper

2006-08-23 Thread Julian Hale
At 05:08 PM 8/22/2006, you wrote: Copper is a poison to sheep and goats.. That is why there are two types of salt, two types of licks and two types of feed supplements. The ones without copper have the sheep and goats on the package and the ones with cooper have cattle pictures on them.. Mark

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-09 Thread Julian Hale
At 11:27 AM 10/8/2006, Stephanie Parrish wrote: Carol, Does he just cut the blood vessels? Or is he severing the spine(?) which I think would be difficult to do quickly, even with a very sharp knife. Does he cut the windpipe as well? Stephanie He's probably just cutting the jugular. It most

Re: [blackbelly] taste and butchering

2006-10-09 Thread Julian Hale
At 08:07 AM 10/8/2006, Barb Lee wrote: Rick, The last time the custom slaughter guy was out here, he did not shoot the animal, but instead simultaneously cut its throat and broke its neck. Death was instantaneous. I couldn't watch but Bob did and he said the animal never twitched, unlike

Re: [blackbelly] ewe with swollen uterus and problems standing

2007-04-11 Thread Julian Hale
At 10:36 AM 4/11/2007, you wrote: Without more information I can only do some experienced guessing. It may be Milk Fever. If so, quickly get some calcium IV into her. without knowing the time frame on these events I can only guess. If this is within the first week since labor, it very

Re: [blackbelly] Lambless Ewe

2007-04-28 Thread Julian Hale
At 02:07 PM 4/27/2007, you wrote: We have a ewe who gave birth to twins on Tuesday, April 24 and by mid-afternoon Thursday they were both dead. I don't know how much they had nursed from her but I don't think it was very much. Do we need to worry about her developing any infection because she

Re: [blackbelly] Strange behavior from angora goat

2007-05-06 Thread Julian Hale
At 07:02 AM 5/5/2007, you wrote: Hello, I don't know if anyone can help with this or not. We have an angora goat doe. She is well fed, wormed shorn etc. she keeps banging her head on the post in the barn. We can't figure it out . She has her kid which was born back in late december and is doing

Re: [Blackbelly] Hurt sheep

2008-03-30 Thread Julian Hale
At 11:26 AM 3/30/2008, you wrote: Good morning, my husband found one of my favorite jacob sheep ewes caught in a fence this morning. I don't know how long she was there maybe overnight. She has a wound on her leg just above the ankle area which I put a little pennicillian on and also sprayed

Re: [Blackbelly] Ram w/swolen hock joints

2008-07-02 Thread Julian Hale
At 05:49 AM 7/2/2008, you wrote: I have a question regarding my ram that has been sick. It started from what is assumed being bit by a dog he backed off from his girls. He has been to the vet and found he had an infection and very low blood count which led to his stiffness and bloody nose. We

Re: [Blackbelly] wasting away could be coccidiosis

2008-08-19 Thread Julian Hale
At 03:07 PM 8/18/2008, you wrote: IT certainly could be coccidia. If they are experiencing bloody scours, then coccidia would be almost certain. Corid is the drug of choice for coccidia. Sulfa also works. There is a new drug called MARQUIS for coccidia. I have not had a problem with this

Re: [Blackbelly] wasting away

2008-08-19 Thread Julian Hale
At 04:34 PM 8/18/2008, Tracy Wessel wrote: This Winter I had several sheep get sore behind. I assumed it was the doing of King Henry, my ram now in the freezer :0. Then I notice one ewe began to lay down a lot, and finally had what looked like pink eye in one eye. I hit her with LA200. Several

Re: [Blackbelly] resheep and cows milk

2008-09-29 Thread Julian Hale
At 03:47 PM 9/29/2008, Dayna Denmark wrote: Hey Nancy, Cows milk is a no-no. The protein / fat ratio is not suitable for lambs. Goats milk is better, and milk replacer for lambs even better. Dayna Denmark Half Ass Acres Actually, it's not uncommon to give goat kids cow milk, to break the

Re: [Blackbelly] Underdeveloped twin, please help

2009-02-28 Thread Julian Hale
At 07:17 PM 2/28/2009, Michael Smith wrote: He suggested tubing him, and taught me how, and we got 4oz in him the first time. I was very encouraged. But, each time thereafter, I'd get a bit in, and then when adjusting the tube a bit, the syringe/funnel (no plunger in syringe) would fill back up

Re: [Blackbelly] Calaveras County ???

2009-03-20 Thread Julian Hale
At 08:12 AM 3/20/2009, you wrote: Hi everyone, I'm looking for someone in calaveras county or surrounding areas. I would like to trade young ewe lambs so I can get a few more unrelated girls in my flock. My sheep are not registered but they are registrable (American blackbelly) Thanks everyone,

Re: [Blackbelly] Electric net fencing

2009-03-25 Thread Julian Hale
At 05:35 PM 3/24/2009, Dayna Denmark wrote: Last year I was going to use my tax return to buy Kencove's electranet fence. I thought it would be great for a portable fencing system. my husband, bless his heart, asked me how are you going to install a gate with this thing?? he was right. Think

Re: [Blackbelly] band saw for meat

2009-05-25 Thread Julian Hale
At 01:14 PM 5/24/2009, you wrote: Of course the ram lamb had to get himself killed Saturday evening of the three-day Memorial Day weekend. My custom slaughter guy wasn't home. The meat packer was closed. It's 6PM and I'm looking at the 60-lb lamb lying bloated in the pasture, soon to be a siren

Re: [Blackbelly] band saw for meat

2009-05-25 Thread Julian Hale
At 08:43 PM 5/25/2009, you wrote: I know this has probably been discussed before, and there are lots of different opinions on it - but do you feed bones and all to the dogs? Cooked or raw? There are plenty of folks who feed raw meat to dogs (and from my own sheep, I'd not worry about

Re: [Blackbelly] Alfalfa

2009-10-26 Thread Julian Hale
At 07:38 PM 10/25/2009, you wrote: I'm going to plant one of my fenced pens with alfalfa. In northern California, it should grow like mad thru the winter and be 18 tall by spring. I have a sickle mower and can harvest it, but was wondering what the group's experience with grazing sheep on live

Re: [Blackbelly] Growth Rate for American Blackbelly Sheep

2009-12-10 Thread Julian Hale
At 06:44 PM 12/9/2009, blueberryfarm wrote: Fellow Shepherds, I have 5 ABB wethers that were born in February. Their weights now range between 34 and 53 pounds. They have always been pasture fed, except for some occasional sweet feed to keep them trained to the bucket. Do you'll experience

Re: [Blackbelly] what to do about an aggressive ram?

2010-01-11 Thread Julian Hale
Hmm... you could try a ram shield, but otherwise that's the kind of behavior that gets rams put in the freezer... Julian ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info

Re: [Blackbelly] Color dominance

2010-01-12 Thread Julian Hale
At 07:02 PM 1/12/2010, you wrote: Can any one tell me what color traits are dominant...the ram's or the ewe's when breeding Color dominance has nothing to do with which parent a given gene came from, just whether it is a dominant or recessive gene. If you want to get into the color genetics

Re: [Blackbelly] Color dominance

2010-01-13 Thread Julian Hale
At 08:14 AM 1/13/2010, you wrote: Thanks Julian. Dave Well, I spoke too soon. There is a lot known about color genetics in Icelandic sheep, some of which may apply to these guys. http://www.icelandicsheep.com/genetics.html http://www.hawksmountainranch.com/colorpatterngenetics.html

Re: [Blackbelly] CD/T

2010-01-26 Thread Julian Hale
At 08:02 AM 1/26/2010, you wrote: Curtis, you are not alone-- I also had no clue what CD/T even was so I Binged it and got this from Jeffers Livestock-- Still don't know what it is for except for Tetanus! Someone enlighten us please! -eldon- Look up enterotoxemia (aka overeating disease,

Re: [Blackbelly] shepherds Staff

2010-03-10 Thread Julian Hale
At 08:59 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote: I am looking for a shepherd's staff that is a good quality, long lasting and highly functional (the real thing, not a decoration) and would appreciate any and all input on where to find good ones, what I should expect to pay, any suggestions for sheep/handling

Re: [Blackbelly] Lamb with the runs

2010-03-18 Thread Julian Hale
At 09:43 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote: I would try probios or a type of it or just mix some colustrum in her bottle. I have fed colustrum ro bottle babies for over 8 weeks to keep their gut healthy. It works on some and some it doesn't. Cecil in OKla Yes, Pro-biotics would be a good idea, also

Re: [Blackbelly] Lamb with the runs (Julian Hale)

2010-03-26 Thread Julian Hale
At 04:38 PM 3/18/2010, you wrote: Interesting, Julian. I've always read that sulfa-based drugs have side effects and Corid has no known/proven side effects. I got hit hard with scours several times with our three bottle-ewes and a pygmy goat last year. I started with Albon and read up on how it

Re: [Blackbelly] USDA restrictive dog transport regulations

2010-08-27 Thread Julian Hale
On 8/26/2010 10:02 PM, Ron Keener wrote: animal welfare? or government regulation? come on USDA - which is it? animal? or regulation? where are your highest priorities? Regulation, or course. They have to justify their worthless existence somehow... Julian

Re: [Blackbelly] Ram Off His Feed

2010-08-30 Thread Julian Hale
On 8/30/2010 3:35 PM, eubankac...@aol.com wrote: I need some advice. Lawrence is a 14 mo. old AB ram. Last Thursday he did not come to eat. He was lying under the trees away from the rest of the boys. I have him in a small stall to isolate him. I examined him for any obstructions such

Re: [Blackbelly] Parasite deaths

2011-07-20 Thread Julian Hale
Minerals play a huge role in our sheep's resistance to parasites. I remember Barb Lee had a ram a few years ago who had a perpetual problem with parasites until she upped his selenium intake, then he was like a whole other ram. Many of the health problems in our animals (and people) are mistaken

Re: [Blackbelly] Algae bloom in ponds

2011-07-28 Thread Julian Hale
In addition to being a wormer, Basic H prevents algae from growing in your tanks. If you don't have fish, you could try Basic H to keep the algae in check. Julian On 7/28/2011 3:56 PM, Mary Swindell wrote: Terry, I am glad to hear information about the Aquashade -- I did not know much about

Re: [Blackbelly] Algae bloom in ponds

2011-07-29 Thread Julian Hale
On 7/28/2011 6:38 PM, William Buchanan wrote: Is Basic H2 the same as Basic H? I have been having trouble finding the reg Basic H. Chris Same stuff but double strength, so you use half as much. Probably done to save on shipping costs. Julian ___

Re: [Blackbelly] what I feed for minerals

2011-10-19 Thread Julian Hale
It's also a potent, highly bioavailable mineral source, which contributes to parasite resistance. A couple years ago Barb Lee did her own fecal tests, and did see a significant drop in parasite load after giving DE, so while there may be no scientific studies, there are evidence based case

Re: [blackbelly] A new lamb

2005-04-20 Thread Julian Hale
Second generation crosses are notoriously unpredictable... color, markings, and conformation can be all over the place. My ram, who is 3/4 blackbelly, has thrown some unusual colors and markings. Most of the lambs are darker than usual for a blackbelly, and 2 of the 3 that are a typical

[blackbelly] Average lamb weights?

2005-05-25 Thread Julian Hale
What does the average Barbado ram lamb weigh at 6 months? About what percentage of the live weight is the hanging weight? Thanks, Julian Hale ___ This message is from the Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info mailing list Visit the list's homepage

Re: [blackbelly] RE: Roundup alert!

2005-08-09 Thread Julian Hale
I was thinking that they probably used 2-4-D rather than roundup. It's a very common herbicide, kills broadleaf plants but leaves grasses alone. I think some people use Roundup generically, in the same way people used to say Xerox instead of photocopy. I wouldn't assume that 2-4-D is any

Re: [blackbelly] Hello to All

2005-08-13 Thread Julian Hale
A lot of people like to breed around 7 months, to lamb at around a year(assuming it works schedule-wise). Some prefer to wait 6 months to a year longer, to give the ewe a chance to get a little bigger. This significantly raises the likelihood that she will have twins or triplets her first

Re: [blackbelly] Kelp

2005-08-16 Thread Julian Hale
There is a breeder listed on the BBASI breeder list in Scott Bar. Go to http://www.blackbellysheep.org/breeders.htm to see his listing. Do you or a friend have a pickup with a canopy/shell? Put down a good layer of straw or something else soft, and load them into the back of the truck. I

Re: [blackbelly] New Northwest Blackbelly Fancier's Group Forming

2005-08-24 Thread Julian Hale
Liz and I will be there. It works out perfectly for a trip we were already making! Are you intending this to be a swap/sale as well as a get together? Julian PS: Was it the Storey farm you were saying sold you the sheep with Soremouth? There is someone in Yakima selling a ram from them,

Re: [blackbelly] New Northwest Blackbelly Fancier's Group Forming

2005-08-24 Thread Julian Hale
Sorry, I meant that to go directly to Barb... Julian ___ This message is from the Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info mailing list Visit the list's homepage at Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info@lists.blackbellysheep.info

Re: RE: [blackbelly] Basic H 101 Follow Up

2005-08-25 Thread Julian Hale
You could always pen them up for the 2-3 days and feed hay. Far better to worm when needed than to wait until it is most convenient for you. Julian At 07:17 PM 8/25/2005, you wrote: It must be the ONLY source of drinking water including wet, succulent grass. Are you saying they

Re: [blackbelly] Sex Ed

2005-08-28 Thread Julian Hale
Speaking of Sex Ed, we feel really stupid... it turns out there is a very good reason she has never gotten pregnant... she is missing the requisite equipment! It turns out she is a wether. We were looking for testicles and horns(or lack thereof), and completely missed the fact that he has a

Re: [blackbelly] Sex Ed

2005-08-29 Thread Julian Hale
I'm glad I could provide amusement :) That's the problem with acronyms, I just meant BlackBelly, I think it's a handy catch-all. I've noticed a lot of people just call them blackbellies. I've been meaning to pick up the cookbook, I suppose I have an excuse now ;) Thanks, Julian At 09:05

RE: [blackbelly] Re: Oh No!!! A Friendly Ram!

2005-09-16 Thread Julian Hale
Seems to me that if he is already 4+ years old, he's not likely to become a problem. Unless he is still just getting situated, and will change when he gets the lay of the land. I've known dogs to suppress their temperament and personality, until they get comfortable, then they seem to