will try to
go over, and some will try to go thru the middle. I think a space of 26 inches
is two wide, and unless they get bit by the hotwire on their nose they might
just go right thru the fence.
Start with five strands and once they get trained you can use less.
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.
Don't give up.I know it's emotionally draining but I also know this group will
do everything possible to help.
keep us posted.
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Michael,
This sounds like frothy bloat to me. Try giving Bam-Bam a drench of 1/2
teaspoon ground ginger mixed with 2 tablespoons water. Also if you have some
aspirin on hand ( not tylenol ) I would give him some for his fever.
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Could you share with us exactly what and how much solid food you are feeding
Bam- Bam daily? Also how much time on fresh grass you have him on would be
helpful.
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using the product the lamb started making pellets, and to this day has
never had a problem.
The product is called Scoursguard for lambs and can be ordered from
www.theholistichorse.com. Just click on the sheep tab and you can read all
about it. I really urge you to give this a try.
Dayna Denmark
asking you guys for your help,as I am at the point where I don't
want to see her suffer and I have to do what's best for my girl.
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I have seen Sally pee in a steady stream just today so I don't suspect urinary
calculi.
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What products and techniques work the best to get some belching going in an
animal?
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a much better idea what I am dealing with and
go from there.
She will be here Tuesday AM so I will know more then.
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If you want to be sure all the ewes are bred go with a minimum of 40 days with
a maximum of 60 days. That way you kind of know all ewes have cycled thru and
been bred twice.
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study is available at www.skylinesfarm.com .
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Hi Barbara,
Could you tell me what is in a dewormer salt block? This is something I have
never seen stateside and I am curious what is the worming agent in the salt.
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goat Squeekie
and always wants to come in the house. I taught her how to shake hands this
fall, I tell her to shake, she gives me her foot, and moves it up and down
really fast.She really is the dog in my sheep family.
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Hi Nancy,
Just spent some time looking at your photos. You guys have quite the variety
and some beautiful rams, especially Wingnut. He has an interesting horn shape
thats for sure!
Just curious.you have an inside goat??
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helpful but I have never heard of this problem with
sheep.
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Sorry Nate, I see you checked the hoof. There is a gland above the front of the
hoof.. see if you can squeeze it. If any waxy blob comes out this might
alleviate the problem. Sometimes the gland gets plugged.
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Just a thought here. Could be a colbalt defiency also known as a B12 defiency.
Sheep seem to be much more vunerable to disease if the levels are low in their
feed. I would definitely take Cecil's advice and worm plus either drench with
colbalt sulfate OR inject with B12.
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but there is no cure or vaccine.
Ovine progressive pneumonia is another example of a purchased disease and
certainly underlines the need to be extremely careful when buying the initial
flock and any replacement animals.
Any animals that test positive should be isolated and culled .
Dayna Denmark
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Just reading up on Coccidia. Could be another possibility given the age of the
sheep and the weather you have been experiencing.
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known as my hugging sheep because she
will hug me if I crouch down in front of her. She will also let me use her as
a backrest if I'm down in the field and need to take a break!
Just give it time and I think you will see they can make great companions.
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Hi Cecil,
Could you share with us what scarlet oil is ?? Also is this a health food store
item?
thanks.
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cotton shed in
summer. I have one ewe whose hair is so long in winter she gets a mane like the
boys. Shed brings on semi- bald patches down her neck and back so I put
sunscreen on her until the hair fills in.
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just stand under them to push off snow and rainwater. I replace
each tarp once a year. I admit they are not beautiful but I doubt the sheep
care!
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Hello group,
Just got an e-mail from a guy looking for ram stud service in southern Oregon.
I don't know of any but if you do maybe we can help him out. He is located in
Gold Hill which is just outside of Medford. He will also pay.
Thanks,
Dayna
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Have you tried E-Bay?? If you do a search you may be surprised at what you can
find that is sheep/ goat related. Shipping charges vary but I think you might
do better than $10! Was that Jeffers Supply that wanted to charge that much?
Dayna
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I choose to raise my small flock ( less than 20 ) naturally. I do not use
chemical wormers. I do not vaccinate. It is a closed flock, no outside animals
are brought in. I am on my fifth year of raising sheep this way and have not
lost an animal to disease.
Blackbellies have the reputation of
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:04:15 -0800
Oh Cecil,
It just breaks my heart to read your story. I feel everyone in this group
cares so much about doing the right thing
Hi Nancy,
There are some good holistic products out there on the web. If you visit
www.wolfcreekranch.com they have products for cough and cold that you could
try. They are very detailed in whats in their formulas so you can see if
something won't work for sheep. I think their product called
At almost three months of age your lambs( hopefully ) are eating some hay
and / or creep feed. They are almost ready to wean. I like to do it at three
months of age. Unfortunately there is no easy way to do it. Some feel it is
best to keep watering down their milk replacer until it is mostly
Barb,
Check out the website wolfcreekranch.net to read about a holistic approach to
cocci. I have not personally tried any of their products but since I am leaning
towards raising sheep without chemicals I may try some.
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Maybe more product for a longer length of time. Feed long enough to catch
all the newly hatching eggs or cycling of worms through the lungs and back
to the stomach. 60 days at 2% dry weight of grain ration.
Check label of your DE. It should be amorphous silica type that has less
than 1%
I really don't know if DE works when diluted with water..thats a good
question. It looks like fine flour and if you smell it it really doesn't
smell like anything. It doesn't taste bitter either. If you do feed cob or
pellets just sprinkle some in and the sheep will most likely eat it. You
Barb,
The only thing I know of about silica that makes it unsafe is if it is a
reaction to the dust in the lungs. Silica ingested orally passes unchanged
thru the gastrointestinal tract exiting in the feces leaving no trace
behind. DE is too minute to penetrate the mucus that lines organs or
Just for fun looked at taxidermy on e-bay. Cannot believe how much people
are getting for sheep skulls with horns attached not to mention head mounts.
Here in southern Oregon I could not even get a guy to show up for two FREE
live rams. When you see someone willing to pay $500.00 for a mounted
Oneta,
I had exactly the same situation last year. Young lamb with one side of her
face swollen. Cecil suggested it might be a sting from a yellowjacket and
said to give the lamb benadryl. I gave the lamb 1 tablet. The swelling was
gone by the next day.
Robert,
Check out www.theholistichorse.com. They make some great sheep products. I
have personally used both wormer and scoursguard for lambs and they worked
great. They also list their products on EBAY.
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Elaine,
Your sheep may be carrying a heavy worm load. One of the classic signs of
barber pole infection is a swollen jaw. Can you check the lower eyelid of
your sheep. Look at the color of the inner lid. It should be pink in color.
If it is pale or whitish I would say your sheep is anemic from
Question for Carol:
Did you ever try your recipe for fly spray using Avon skin so soft bath oil,
Eucalyptus oil, and white vinegar? It has been saved on my e-mail all this
time and I had forgotten about it.
My present war on flies consists of Quickbayt fly bait strips hung in
pole barn and
Sounds like it could be they need more selenium. With all your rain the
natural selenium would be depleated from the forage. Try putting out a
mineral block and see if that helps. Also with the deep mud the small gland
between the toes in the front of the hoof could be blocked. Hose off the
Tracy,
Most likely diet. I don't know where in Oregon you are but here in southern
Or. we lack selenium in forage.This time of year the pastures are lush but
if you can get some dry feed in your sheep before turning them loose to
graze as it helps with digestion.
My chronic scouring ewe no
Could anyone tell me what mineral sheep are after when they girdle a tree?
All my madrone trees were the choice this year. I got them wrapped with wire
today but it looks like two trees are dead. Why do they do it some years and
not others??
Dayna
pbsanimalhealth catalog has a new product I would like to try. Unfortunately
I don't have power running down to my pen and as much as I moan my husband
is in no big hurry to supply me with any. it's a bucket with the heating
element built into the walls of the bucket instead of the typical
Hey Barb,
Wish I had power in my barn- I know what you mean about cleaning a winter
water trough. My only solution is to carry down warm buckets of water so the
sheep will drink.
I just wanted to make a suggestion about your bedding problem. I found out
that when the county trims trees you can
Karen,
I want to recommend a website for you to check out. They carry a scours
product that is the best I have ever found.
Go to www.theholistichorse.com and click on the sheep tab. The product is
called scourguard for lambs.
I don't know how it works I just know my one bottle lamb this past
Carol,
You might have better luck with a scratching post treated with insecticide
rather than a curtain type. My sheep all love to rub along the fence line so
I'm thinking about making a post and seeing if they will use it.
For now I'm using a product I got from Gardeners supply website. It is a
Nancy the dosage is about 1/4 cup per head of sheep for 3 consecutive days
followed by 1/4 cup per head once a week or so all year round. Flax seed has
a nutty flavor so I just top dress with it and the sheep love the taste.
It's not inexpensive to use and it keeps better refrigerated but, like
Hello group,
After reading the latest on copper supplements I got to wondering. This
group seems to be spread out over most of the U.S. and I am very curious as
to what each of us feeds our sheep on a regular basis. I have added many
items to my sheep diet because of this group. I think it
Hello all,
I have a lamb with a somewhat sparce long hair coat that has had three ticks
on her that I had to remove with a tick puller. These have been full size
ticks not sheep keds. Two were by her mouth and one was on her neck.
I was wondering if any of you have tried or considered trying a
Barb,
I am also in Oregon and know what you mean about weather weenie sheep. This
is the first year I have been able to get them to graze in constant rain and
it's only because their access to other food gets cut off late morning. So
it's graze or go hungry- even the lazy ones figure this out
Thank you for your quick response. I will give her more time on the bottle.
She eats hay and dry cob with gusto and grazes best when I'm not around to
distract her. She shows no interest in the treats I use to bribe everyone
into a smaller pen at night. ( Apples, carrots, honey nut cheerios).
I had only one bottle lamb this year. I know I looked like an idiot out in
the pasture on my hands and knees trying to look like I was grazing to teach
the lamb how to graze. I know I looked like an idiot crouched down by the
water trough with my nose hanging right above the water to teach the
Thanks for the help with my bottle lamb. Today is day 3 for her living in
the sheep pen instead of the garage. She is doing much better this way. Not
alot of fun going down to the pen at midnight in the pouring rain but
feeding time is feeding time, isn't it!!
She is, at 28 days, FINALLY eating
Hello everyone,
Busy here with new lambs. I have a bottle baby born Feb.1 whom I am trying
desperately to integrate with my other 7 sheep. She is shy and small for her
age, about the same size as a 1 week old male.
I take her with me to the sheep pen every day. The other sheep treat her
like
Susan,
You have almost the same situation as me. Mom had twins, they were fine with
her the first day, day two mom decided she would accept baby ram only.
My tiny ewe is doing very well on the bottle. She's been moved into a pen in
the garage because my husband could not handle a box in the
Carol,
Is there a specific the sheep must be for the photos, or are you looking for
different stages of development?
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Reading all the postings on Basic H reminded me to post results of 2
products I purchased addressing worms and chronic scours. I purchased them
online from www.holistichorse.com.
I am always interested in trying natural products, just my opinion but I
think it makes for a healthier animal. I
Question? For those of you who use beet pulp do you always soak it or do you
mix in dry with the grain? I've got some soaking now in the garage but I'm
wondering if I don't soak will the pellets swell up in the sheep's gut like
they swell up in the bucket? Do you then mash it up? How do I use
With 90+ degree weather here in southern Oregon, and no power source down in
my sheep pen ,I was trying to think of an alternative to a fan to cool down
the sheep. While playing around on E-Bay I stumbled across whats called a
patio misting system. All it is is plastic tubing with spray heads
Hi Nancy,
I don't know of any shots loaded with vitamins, only the kind that are drugs
to boost immunity. There is a product out there called baby lamb strength
oral which is vitamins A, D, and E. It's shown to aid in preventing
pneumonia and insures proper growth in lambs, as well as
Hello all,
One month ago I banded two males with an elastrator(thanks to all that
helped me with directions on how to use that thing). I was feeling around
down there yesterday and it feels like one of the boys is only a partial
band. In other words I think I blew it and missed getting one of
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