Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members
On 25/03/2021 13:43, Guilhem Moulin wrote: No idea how much it evaluation it received from the then BoD, but FWIW that project was mentioned in passing on this very list 4 years ago during the discussion that got /foundation/code-of-conduct published and adopted: https://listarchives.tdf.io/i/hNmCoWCFFk63f2HlUicKssps . Haha ok. Thanks for mentioning this Guilhem, you're my personal mailing list archeologist :P (at that time I wasn't keeping the emails locally, so I only have archives from 2018 and onward, at that time I thought that full text search was simpler wrt. mailing lists, my bad...) For what is worth, the contributor covenant evolved in version number[2] and became more robust (and inclusive) since that time, thanks to the joint effort of organizations coming in to participate and sign this agreement :) Back on the main topic, I'm glad TDF has been able to provide an answer in a timely manner. When it's great, it's important to mention it too =) [1] https://twitter.com/wget42/status/1375088510227648515 [2] https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant/compare/1.4...2.0#diff-ffdbe3a1e7ee93cacfc080b6c635ccf3a8f6b0f00f2fb884f78c6b5f9dac8fd2 -- William Gathoye Hypertive volunteer for LibreOffice Proud member of The Document Foundation CM of LaMouette - French based association promoting ODF and LibreOffice Consultant Technical Marketer at Collabora DevOps Engineer at Arawa Core Committer at Mattermost -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members
On 23/03/2021 22:18, Marina Latini wrote: Agree, what happened is unbelievable and TDF should take distance. Also, this RMS situation is the perfect timing to have/enforce a proper contributor agreement/code of conduct/manifesto/call-it-what-you-want-to agreement without the need to reinvent the wheel. I know you have been working on this (cf. occurrences in "Board of Directors Meeting 2021-03-12" and even back from the days Marina was at the board), I'm just mentioning that instead of reinventing the wheel for that part, we just could use this joint/collective effort: https://www.contributor-covenant.org/ signed by a bunch of (well-known) orgs since 2014 (which could add additional visibility to our project). Don't understand the need for reinventing the wheel for that part here, **except to** add our additional values related to FOSS office suites, ODF and other TDF call to actions described here [1] and there [2]. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Next_Decade_Manifesto [2] cf. TDF initial statutes -- William Gathoye Hypertive volunteer for LibreOffice Proud member of The Document Foundation CM of LaMouette - French based association promoting ODF and LibreOffice Consultant Technical Marketer at Collabora DevOps Engineer at Arawa Core Committer at Mattermost -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] TDF Advisory Board Members
On 23/03/2021 22:18, Marina Latini wrote: Agree, what happened is unbelievable and TDF should take distance. +1 and I would even answer, that I would personally take distance from TDF if TDF dodges an answer on that topic (and we should all too). Silence gives consent, right? Views expressed here are my own. -- William Gathoye -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Involvement of the board in the Marketing Plan
Hi Sam, Michael, Thanks again for your interesting questions about KPIs during the meeting. Always glad to be able to learn something new wrt. business marketing (e.g. USP, etc.) ;) > the link disappearing is annoying; but IIRC we have no E-mail > attachments on-list. The reason behind the "link disappearance" was because an erratum/updated version was published later on invalidating the first/previous link in the thread you mentioned :) cf. the updated version [1] with the proper Nextcloud link. > > > =) this has been quite widely shared; but we can always do more to > communicate better; clearly. +1, especially NLP communities who are not specifically following the English based threads. Have a nice week-end ahead, [1] https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/msg04551.html -- William Gathoye Hypertive volunteer for LibreOffice Proud member of The Document Foundation Member of LaMouette - French based association promoting ODF and LibreOffice -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] TDF's key goals now in Redmine
Hi Andreas, On 22/06/2020 19:01, Andreas Mantke wrote: > could you please explain what is the next generation? Well, I know where you want to go :) A generation is typically 20 years. New generation, here are the devs/contributors my age or younger. Those still students or entering the world of work.[1] > And why do you think that only younger people will bring 'fresh air and > perception' into the project? To answer your question, ask yourselves whether you were born with a computer? >From a 2 years work at handling the LibreOfficeFR Twitter account, I have realized we sometimes have interesting questions from that "new gen". e.g. "will I loose my documents if I remove LibreOffice". Why that? Because they were born with a smartphone and don't know the usual computer we are used to use: desktop/laptop computer. The same applies to social media. Some, here, don't understand the importance of a polished and proactive (what I call modern) communication like KDE/GNOME are nowadays doing. If you want me to define what's "modern communication", feel free to follow us in the marketing mailing list =) > > I don't see such connection to the age of one. Now you should see. :) Also ask yourselves whether the new generation is using email with mailing list or a beautiful and eye catchy Discourse instance accessible from **mobile** (see rdm#2952 and rdm#3246). > If I interpret the purpose of the Redmine ticket correctly it is not > targeted to developers. The LibreOffice project is not a developer > project only. Sure. But the most important thing to work on is the lack of devs. Have a look at the UI channel, everyone wants to do UI, but we are not enough devs to implement such changes. :) Since I now have recovered plenty of time for the project, virtual hackathons is something I want to lead, at least for the French community. :) > Developers are only one part of the project but their work wouldn't be > successful without e.g. documentation, user support etc. You are absolutely right, this is why in talks about FOSS when I was advocating for it back in the days, I used to say (pardon my harshness): the software as in code would still be there with only devs. However, without all the other skills participating in a FOSS project we would have lost our soul and our community spirit =) Have a nice evening, [1] I didn't follow that path. Made things in reverse order by acquiring a 5+ years of experience in IT/dev than completing my computer management degree... Some would say I walk on the head, which could explain a lot of things :D -- William Gathoye Hypertive volunteer for LibreOffice Proud member of The Document Foundation Member of LaMouette - French based association promoting ODF and LibreOffice -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] TDF's key goals now in Redmine
On 20/06/2020 13:15, Andreas Mantke wrote: > the community is not shrinking by the regular process of aging. The age > of a person is not the key of being a contributor, e.g. I started > contributing to an open source software project when I was 43 (not 42 > and I'm active contributing since then. I think the purpose here is to drive the attention of younger contributors not fight/replace our elders. :) Some fresh air and perceptions from the next generation is great to have to unsure the success of the project for current and forthcoming generations of users. Being myself from the youngest in the community, I have plenty of ideas to fix this challenge and drive the attention of younger developers. :) Having followed the project since its very inception (sept 2010) and reading all mailing list messages, plus the fact I have been in charge of the LibreOfficeFR Twitter account for 2 years, I have built a modest list of drawbacks and expectations from the current gen of devs and those to be. That's why the idea of Redmine is great because, it will allow me to keep track of current blockers. Thanks for the initiative. Regards, -- William Gathoye Hypertive volunteer for LibreOffice Proud member of The Document Foundation Member of LaMouette - French based association promoting ODF and LibreOffice -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Invitation to public TDF board meeting on Friday, March 13th at 1300 Berlin time
Hello everyone, I have joined the meeting but you have all a robotic voice, I preferred to leave as we couldn't barely understand what you meant. All public Jitsi instances (was the case for Framasoft) are being taken up by people wanting to use a visio solution, so I assume the TDF server (or at least its network connection) was overloaded. On this topic, boosting the current server and promoting it to our users, would be a good marketing campaign, if hosted at jitsi.libreoffice.org (not on tdf.org, in order to boost brand awareness). Depending on the cost, that's something I could cover. I'll ask my questions using a delayed video, basically the same questions I had for my FOSDEM presentation, presentation I haven't been able to give because of TDF's agenda constraints. :/ Keep you posted. =) -- William Gathoye Hypertive volunteer for LibreOffice Proud member of The Document Foundation Member of LaMouette - French based association promoting ODF and LibreOffice -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy