Re: Look on my works, ye mighty...

2006-07-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: Good start. I'd suggest that's enough of a teaser for now. I'm going to try to get the book from the library today, failing that I'll see if they have an unloaned copy in another branch. Failing *that* I'll see if our budget stretches to a copy from a bookshop or book

Re: Abortion

2006-07-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Brother John wrote: Finally, the enormous problem of illegal immigration that we are having here in the USA is caused in part by the huge birthrate among the Hispanic people who live in Mexico and other nations of Latin America. We aren't having children, and they are. Even here in the USA

Re: Prehistory

2006-07-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Brother John wrote: Consider the marvelous book by Jared Diamond called /Guns, Germs and Steel. /It is almost all conjecture. It is very good conjecture perhaps, but conjecture nevertheless. Have you read it? Consider the very important paleoanthropological find in the Columbia River

Re: Look on my works, ye mighty...

2006-07-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: Good start. I'd suggest that's enough of a teaser for now. I'm going to try to get the book from the library today, failing that I'll see if they have an unloaned copy in another branch. Failing *that* I'll see if our budget stretches to a copy from a bookshop or

Re: (no subject)

2006-07-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Brother John wrote: We have to spend a lot of time thinking about ethics because we're unlucky enough not to know with absolute certainty from God Himself that eating shellfish is an abomination(*) or that it's okay to keep slaves as long as they're from other tribes or... Atheists are

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Brother John wrote: Why would any adult not want to have children? There are probably a thousand or more valid reasons the most basic of which is that we are all individuals with varying needs, desires and capabilities Are they not a source of almost infinite joy in the lives of those who

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: Or because their husband/master/owner wanted a shag, and babies were the side-effect of that. Exactly. The Idea of some past golden age is a crock. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Good Lord, it's hot

2006-07-25 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Horn wrote: We've been good until then. I have several friends who still don't have power almost a week later. And there are hundred's of thousands of others throughout the area. We were very, very lucky! I'm about 20 miles south of Dave and Nick. Because we're farther away from

Look on my works, ye mighty...

2006-07-25 Thread Doug Pensinger
...and Despair. (Shelly) Here's a quick teaser for the Collapse discussion; a summary of the prologue. Hopefully we can draw a little more interest. The above quote is from Shelly's poem Ozymandus: I met a traveler from and antique land Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-07-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: Of course your found it intriguing. I am sure it is a very comforting bedtime story that Democrats are smart and Republicans stupid, and that if everyone had access to the truth, then we'd all be Democrats. I don't think its a matter of smart or stupid as much as a tendency to

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-07-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: ionary.. RFK Jr's statement didn't adress this at all. I'd argue that both Democrats and Republicans give half truths that favor their position. It's not that RFK Jr. is a champion of truth against those lying Republicans. Have you looked at the poll RFK refered to?

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-07-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: Have you looked at the poll RFK refered to? [http://astro.berkeley.edu/~aleroy/Report10_21_04.pdf] That link is broken, Try this. http://zzpat.tripod.com/cvb/pipa.html but I've seen polls that indicate that sort of denial of facts by Republicans. I also have seen it by

Collapse...

2006-07-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
..How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed Is anyone interested in reading and discussing this Jared Diamond book on list? I volunteer to lead some of the discussion... NY Times review: http://tinyurl.com/m6h5j -- Doug ___

Testing...

2006-07-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
1,2,3 -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: That's like saying that the problem isn't robbery, its that other people have more stuff than me!And like saying that if you outlaw murder, people will still commit murders - you haven't solved anything. That's one way of looking at it. Another is that we do everything we can

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: Massive straw man, unworthy of reply. See Charlie's posts on the subject. I don't think that calling my argument a straw man contributes to positive debate on this subject. OK, I'm sorry. Your argument is fallacious because the chance that the male/female ratio becomes

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jim Sharkey wrote: I personally am repelled by the idea of choosing a baby's sex. I don't see it as a practice that needs banning, but I do see where the logical next step is Why can't my baby be blond, or tall, or any number of other more desirable traits? and I can further see why some

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:52:34 -0400 (EDT), Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I also wonder, if such tinkering becomes viable, does it have the possibility of damaging an egalitarian society? How so? Well, I would imagine that such advances would

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: Well, obviously I disagree. You haven't really provided any evidence to back your view that it is very close to zero, other than to refer me to Charlie's posts. As near as I can tell, Charlie's posts are a long run argument. Well, in the long run we're all dead. In the

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: Isn't the real danger of ending up with an unbalanced population, making it difficult for a generation to find a mate, worth noting? So you're saying we should tailor our laws to remedy the shortcomings of the Chinese social system? And is this really functionally different

Re: Introductions

2006-07-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: Hola. I'm Charlie, 32 year old Brit from Wimbledon, London, UK. Work as a PC tech and website builder these days. Degree in Zoology, worked variously in sales, finance and behind a bar. Spent 2005 cycling round Australia. Joined Brin-L in '97 or 98, been here on and off

Re: An Inconvenient Truth

2006-07-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: I wrote: So what would be the point in tapping the ANWR? I'm not sure where this question comes from. I personally don't have particularly strong feelings either way about drilling in ANWR. I apologize for a poorly worded question. I didn't mean it as a comment on your

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: Of course, but your choice has implications that affect others - to say nothing of your child. Are you saying that if the free choice of American parents results in a generation that is born 75% female and 25% male, that you would have no problem with that? (And women say that

Re: An Inconvenient Truth

2006-07-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: Let's say that increased use of wind power results in a decrease in the price of oil (this too is unlikely since little oil is used for electricity generation compared to coal and natural gas). This decrease in the price of oil, would cause a little less oil to be supplied.

Re: An Inconvenient Truth

2006-07-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: No time for a long reply, sorry but in response to: The parallel in Gore's position is his view of the relationship between global warming and hurricane strength. At the weather underground's tropical page, Dr. Jeff Master's gave a report from the annual meteorological conference

Re: An Inconvinient Truth

2006-07-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:09:36 -0400 (EDT), Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: From: Doug Pensinger I urge you all to go see this movie. I have been surprised in recent weeks at how many people have come out and said that it changed their minds on global warming

An Inconvinient Truth

2006-07-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
I urge you all to go see this movie. I know that for the most part the people on this list agree that global warming is a problem and that you already know most of the stuff Gore talks about, but I think the movie drives home the point that we can't really just sit around and wait for others

Re: An Inconvenient Truth

2006-07-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: 1. Odyssey is giving us indications of recent global climate change in Mars, said Jeffrey Plaut, project scientist for the mission at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, from http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html ; If both Mars and Earth are experiencing

Re: Bush: I'd rather be right than popular

2006-07-08 Thread Doug Pensinger
But of course he's neither. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: SCOUTED: Bush is Not Incompetent

2006-07-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:13:45 -, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But he didn't _run_ the campaign at all. He smiled, waved and read canned speeches. Rove et al ran the campaign. I won't pretend to have any real day

Re: Baseball (was Re: Introductions)

2006-07-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jim wrote: In all honesty, the biggest problem with youth pitching is the coaches and/or parents of the kids. A 10-year-old who's eager to do well will do whatever the adults tell him to do, and if he's taught a curve or allowed to pitch too many innings early on, he's going to do whatever

Re: Baseball (was Re: Introductions)

2006-07-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
I wrote: how to throw his Or maybe if (s)he hears how the durable Barry Zito learned ^ big bender (one of the major league's best) at 10 years old. There are some stories that you should keep to yourself, methinks.

Re: Scientists say dodos killed by natural disaster

2006-07-04 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 15:12:02 +0200, Klaus Stock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scientists say dodos killed by natural disaster By Tim Cocks Mon Jul 3, 10:47 AM ET PORT LOUIS (Reuters) - Scientists who unearthed a mass dodo grave in Mauritius say they have found evidence showing the birds were

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-07-04 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: Did the Bush Administration use 9/11 to further an agenda in the Middle East after it happened? Undoubtedly, and Blair did the same. Did it bring down the towers and fake portions of the attacks, or even directly instigate the attacks to those ends? Not a chance. I

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-07-04 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 15:18:11 -0500, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:26 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-07-04 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: Not really. Both the White House and the Capitol were on the potential target list for the planes. There are some arguments that the path of the plane that hit the Pentagon indicates that the first target was the White House, which is surprisingly hard to see from the

Re: Introductions (Was:Re: SCOUTED: Bush is Not Incompetent)

2006-06-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Robert wrote: We have a couple of new people! So how about we regulars introduce ourselves? Doug from Morgan Hill, Ca. I'm 52 this month, married (28 years) and have two grown children (26 and 28) and 1 1/3 grandchildren. I work at a rather large Aerospace company in Silicon Valley. I

Re: SCOUTED: Bush is Not Incompetent

2006-06-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:10:42 -0500, Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of Dave Land But I do think that progressives should address the actual cause of the nation's (and some of the world's) woes -- the conservative program -- instead of engaging in smug, self-satisfied and

Re: Peaceful regime change (was Re: History lessons not learned?)

2006-06-24 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: Well, McClellan was the first one to come to mind to me. McClellen was not a political appointment. He may have remained in his position too long due to political considerations, but he was a West Point graduate, was successful early in the war and was recommended by Winfield

Re: Peaceful regime change (was Re: History lessons not learned?)

2006-06-24 Thread Doug Pensinger
PAT wrote: McClellan was a very good logistics man IMO. What he wasn't was a strategist. Or any sort of tactician. That is, he would have made an excellent peacetime general or behind-the-lines support leader. Exactly. Unfortunately, he was thrust into a position that played into his

Re: Peaceful regime change (was Re: History lessons not learned?)

2006-06-24 Thread Doug Pensinger
PAT wrote: And every last one of them except Grant were whistling Dixie. pedantic I would include George Thomas, John Reynolds with Grant. /pedantic I wonder if the Southern culture of warlike honor encouraged them Yes. and the Northern culture somehow discouraged them? More by way

Re: Peaceful regime change (was Re: History lessons not learned?)

2006-06-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: Nick wrote: A little voice in my head was pointing that out when I posted it. Still, I take it as encouraging that the attempted change in China never yielded to violence. That image of the man blocking the tank is a symbol of hope, not despair, isn't it? I seem to

Re: Peaceful regime change (was Re: History lessons not learned?)

2006-06-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: I'm not interested in the Civil War in the way my brother-in-law is. He's interested in the battles, what-if situations in those battles, and so forth. I'm more interested in the politics of the Civil War. For example, I'm amazed by Lincoln's understanding of the inherent

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-06-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/06/14/sex.selection.ap/index.html I don't understand what the objection is (the ones stated in the article are lame), and I'm really surprised that the U.S. of all places is the one allowing the procedure. -- Doug

Re: SCOUTED: Garrison Keillor on San Franciscophobia

2006-06-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
William wrote: I don't think the collapse of Western civilisation is a laughing matter. Yur yankin' my chain again, right William? Charlie, is he yankin' my chain again? -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: SCOUTED: Garrison Keillor on San Franciscophobia

2006-06-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
William wrote: Voila / viola Rogue / rouge Lose / loose Fluorescent / flourescent Atheist / athiest Hobbyist / hobbiest Ballot / ballet Customers / costumers Tack / tact Bated / baited Anal/anil -- Doug ___

Re: SN 1006 in Arizona Petroglyph?

2006-06-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:20:29 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scorpius is one of the few constellations which really resemble the animal they are supposed to depict. Orion is another, IMO. -- Doug ___

Re: When BatLeths Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have BatLeths

2006-05-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Damon wrote: You guys and your swords. I'll take a pollaxe... Or a revolver like Harrison Ford... -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
Alberto wrote: It might be a belief, it might even be strident and loudly held, but it's a slightly different class of belief. No, it's not, and this belief may have killed more people than all religions put together - you missed this same discussion we had here about 6 months ago. Wern't

Re: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
Nick wrote: I see a glaring logical error. The idea that *only* science can minimize self-deception and identify non-existent causes cannot be falsified. I don't get it, couldn't you falsify the idea by comming up with some other method that minimizes self-deception and identifies

Re: Optimism for the USA

2006-04-23 Thread Doug Pensinger
Robert J. Chassell wrote: An optimist -- and I am still an optimist -- will argue that in spite of forgone opportunities, the USA could help create a more civilized and sustainable world. Excellent post, Robert, you should have given it a Brin header. As for optimism, I'm afraid I've lost

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-16 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: Obtaining the oil production data from http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_crdsnd_adc_mbbl_m.htm and the crude oil prices from http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Inflation_Rate/Historical_Oil_Prices_Tabl e.asp We get the following table: production US imports

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:33:08 -0700, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't it blindingly obvious that the bin Ladens of this world find followers because of the social and economic conditions where they recruit? No, that's not obvious at all. I'm pretty sure that many of his recruits

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Nick wrote: I wrote: No, that's not obvious at all. I'm pretty sure that many of his recruits are middle/upper income types. I would argue that it is the wealth of the region that stimulates terrorism and that if the Middle East was economically and politically irrelevant there would

Re: Great Sam Harris Interview

2006-04-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: While conservation policies would have some effect, one can see a much better correlation between changes in prices and changes in oil usage than in governmental policies and the use of oil. In the eight years following Carter's moral equivelent of war, during a period of

Re: Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect

2006-04-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:30:48 -0500, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Minette wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Seeberger Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:13 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Former Head

Re: Headless Clones One Step Closer

2006-04-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: (I could suggest that they also implanted a fully functioning bladder into the Oval Office, but I won't... ;) ) Sphincter. A fully functional sphincter. And not just in the oval office either. -- Doug ___

Re: Fwd: Timing's Everything

2006-04-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:39:27 +1000, Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: On Wednesday, at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00 in the morning, the time and date will be 01:02:03 04/05/06. You strange Americans... I still remember celebrating 12:34 5/6/78,

Re: News

2006-03-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we are. I'm going back to Cyprus, we'll try to file a prospective marriage visa within a couple of weeks, and hopefully this'll be the last enforced separation we have to deal with. Claire may blog or post too... give her a chance, we've both

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-23 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ritu wrote: hould be the default for groups with separate languages. Eww! I think that is a pretty bad idea, at least for my part of the world. I don't like the idea either. Drawing lines and creating ethnic enclaves would tend to reinforce natural xenophobic tendencies, IMO. So while it

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
Robert wrote: If not for you, babe I couldn't even find the door I couldn't even see the floor I'd be sad and blue, if not for you If not for you, babe, the night would see me wide awake The day would surely have to break It would not be new, if not for you If not for you, my sky would fall,

Re: Rewriting The Science

2006-03-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:38:25 -, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19 Mar 2006 at 22:33, Doug Pensinger wrote: Rewriting The Science http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/17/60minutes/main1415985.shtml or http://tinyurl.com/qoo59 REwriting? Yes, it wasn't clear from

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: I don't see it as that black and white. Our presence helped fuel the insurgence. The stupidity of the initial policy gave it a chance to flourish and grow. But, I don't see our leaving as ending it. You're right it isn't as cut and dried as I made it sound. At the present time,

Is it just me....

2006-03-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Is it just me or does anyone else see that the major reason there is an insurgency in Iraq is our (the U.S.) pressence? Everyone seems to agree that Al Qaida is provoking the sectarian violence, and that they consider the U.S., not Iraq, their enemy. If we leave, they loose most of their

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Damon wrote: However, I doubt pulling up stakes and heading home will mean an end to the insurgency either; the current Iraq government doesn't seem to have a whole lot of legitimacy, and I think if we left, the attacks will continue to discredit the government, which I think is perceived as

Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Andrew wrote: Sure. Because then they'll come to America. And England. And other western counties. All in all, if they want to die for the cause, I'd prefer they did so over there. Iraq is to terrorists what a swamp is to mosquitos. We dry up the swamp - or at least some portion of it -

We, the Torturers

2006-03-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
In Secret Unit's 'Black Room,' a Grim Portrait of U.S. Abuse [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/international/middleeast/19abuse.html?_r=1themc=thoref=slogin] or http://tinyurl.com/m4cpp As the Iraqi insurgency intensified in early 2004, an elite Special Operations forces unit converted one of

Rewriting The Science

2006-03-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Rewriting The Science http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/17/60minutes/main1415985.shtml or http://tinyurl.com/qoo59 What James Hansen believes is that global warming is accelerating. He points to the melting arctic and to Antarctica, where new data show massive losses of ice to the sea.

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
Robert wrote: It was an itsy, bitsy, teenie, weenie, yellow polka-dot bikini That she wore for the first time today An itsy, bitsy, teentie, weenie, yellow polka-dot bikini So in the water she wanted to stay (From the locker to the blanket) (From the blanket to the shore) (From the shore to

Re: Olympos...

2006-03-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ritu wrote: Finished it last September. I finished it last week. I enjoyed it even though it had a high suspension of disbelief factor(IMO). Simmons writes well and builds wonderful constructs and interesting characters so while the story isn't extraordinary, I'd recommend the book(s).

Re: And now, for something completely different...

2006-03-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Travis wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: RE: And now, for something completely different... Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:44:38 -0600 At 12:13 PM Saturday 3/11/2006, Travis

Re: And now, for something completely different...

2006-03-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dave wrote: I know that this list has been converted to a place to post old song lyrics, but I thought I'd throw in a little late-week politics for good measure. Well, actually, prior to the old song lyrics thread, the list had been converted to a place to post absolutely nothing. I

Olympos...

2006-03-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
...anyone else read it yet? -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
Travis wrote: Look away from the sea I can take you anywhere Spend a vision with me A chase with the wind Move closer to me I can make you anyone I think you’re ready to see The gates to babylon The power of what has been before Rises to trap you within A magic carpet ride, a genie maybe

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
Robert wrote: Well, I was talking to a mirror image of what supposedly was to be me; and the eyes and the nose and the insignificant clothes supported the testimony. He said, You're doing fine, you know. You've got an okay mind, you know. And I would hate to see you throw it away.

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-08 Thread Doug Pensinger
Travis wrote: ...she's dancing with the hands of fate while she's sleeping with the one she hates and tonight they celebrate... Evelyn, a modified dog Viewed the quivering fringe of a special doily Draped across the piano, with some surprise In the darkened room Where the chairs dismayed And

Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone home? Come on, now. I hear you’re feeling down. Well I can ease your pain, Get you on your feet again. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The real thing (was Re: The Continuing Saga of BD...)

2006-03-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:23:23 +1000, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Among my first words to him were, Thank you for serving, and Welcome home. I try to remember to say that to every vet I meet. Perhaps it seems absurd to thank people

The Continuing Saga of BD...

2006-03-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
...who, after having lost a leg in Iraq, has PTSD. The story is spread out over several months, starting last November. http://tinyurl.com/k35z2 http://tinyurl.com/q4s8e http://tinyurl.com/jlqkq http://tinyurl.com/jt3bz http://tinyurl.com/coea3 -- Doug

Re: Hello...

2006-02-26 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia wrote: So would now be a good time to ask if anyone's interested in doing a chapter-by-chapter group read-through and analysis of one of The Good Doc's (recent) books? Or a book by one of the other Killer B's, or any of the other folks mentioned in this list's FAQ? I wouldn't mind,

Re: Hello...

2006-02-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: Not right now, I'm in Oz. Just finished a cycling tour, now sitting about for the last month of my visa before heading back to Cyprus - hopefully temporarily. My, how modest we are. Cycling tour? He circumnavigated the bloody continent!! Welcome back Charlie. 8^) --

Re: Fight the Future: Houston Police wanna put Cameras in Your Home

2006-02-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:35:00 -0700, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Police_Cameras.html Houston's police chief on Wednesday proposed placing surveillance cameras in apartment complexes, downtown streets,

Re: Cold Pictures and more

2006-02-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jo Anne wrote: Doug -- We're all fine here. It's been well below freezing for *TWO* days, and we're just not used to that here in Cascadia. The Engineer is out now hooking a light bulb up to heat the birdbath, so the wild things will be able to drink. (We just had a very annoyed Steller

Re: Cold Pictures and more

2006-02-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:11:07 -0500, Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've taken care of Ethan many times already and he's very easy to take care of. He has a smile for just about everyone and rarely cries. I really think that Granparenting is one of lifes big payoffs! May be. My

Re: Cold Pictures

2006-02-16 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jo Anne wrote: Hey List!! Hi Jo Anne, great to hear from you! It is I, Crone of the Willamette, actually posting to BrinL again now that things are quiet. I'm not sure what happened, but the politics has seemed to decline, and that's all good in my opinion. The Olympics may have

Re: To my loyal fans

2006-02-16 Thread Doug Pensinger
Bob wrote: I am going to be on Good Morning America tomorrow (around 7:40 am est they tell me) talking about a nre brain imaging technique called Diffusion Tensor Imaging - just about the coolest thing to come down the pike in neuroimaging in the last few years (neater in my opinion than

Re: Our Endangered Values (was Re: Irregulars: C++ Memory Allocation Weirdness)

2006-02-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dave wrote: By the way, on the subject of religion and politics, I'd like to toss out a thank you to Doug Pensinger for his recommendation last month of Jimmy Carter's excellent Our Endangered Values. You're certianly welcome, I had a feeling you would appreciate it. I was talking to my

Another Data Point

2006-02-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
One of these days there will be enough of these to convince all reasonable people that the reason Bush invaded Iraq had abxolutely nothing to do with 911, WMDs or terrorists. http://tinyurl.com/bpuf6 In an article published on Friday in the journal Foreign Affairs, Paul R. Pillar, the CIA's

Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-08 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:01:50 -0600, Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 04:53:48 -0600, Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Genius is Pain! http://www.lulu.com/content/110468 It sounds better than it readsG I thought that since you

Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 04:53:48 -0600, Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Genius is Pain! http://www.lulu.com/content/110468 It sounds better than it readsG I thought that since you made two references to Radio Dinner that you'd recognize a few more. Genius is Pain is a reference to

Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
Robert wrote: Go placidly amid the noise waste, remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof. Avoid quiet passive persons unless you are in need of sleep. Rotate your tires. Speak glowingly of those greater than yourself and heed well their advice even though they be

Re: Steelers!

2006-02-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:07:32 -0800, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yay! Although I normally shun television, with rare exceptions such the State of the Union... I got my overdose of popular culture today and watch the Steelers, my old hometown team, get one for the thumb. More than 20

Re: Steelers!

2006-02-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
George wrote: I'm a west coast fan in general, having been born in Eugene, Oregon and spending my Junior High School and High School in Southern California, so I was leaning toward Seattle. But Jerome Bettis started as a Ram, so I wasn't completely bummed. However, I hesitate to blame the

Re: Cool space picture

2006-02-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:35:48 -0800 (PST), Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking up the Horsehead Nebula for a friend, and happened across this -- what a nifty cosmic Rorschack (?sp) test! http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060119.html I see: -a saint (or other bearded fellow

Football, was Re: Question for Aussies

2006-01-31 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia wrote: Did anything go the way you wanted it to? Most of the NFL playoff games went (IMO) the WRONG way -- I think one weekend, out of 4 games, 2 went the way I really didn't want them to, 1 went the way I wanted it to, and the remaining 1 I didn't care too much about -- but I did care

Re: A very sensible idea

2006-01-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
PAT wrote: Someone on FourthTurning came up with a very sensible idea. It was that the only time the federal government should interfere with state law is if the state is violating the Bill of Rights. (This does not restrict the power of the feds to regulate air traffic, public health,

Re: Having children 'is bad for your mental health'

2006-01-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:33:08 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/17/2006 9:37:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You must have been spared the cliche of your parents starting to ask on your wedding day how soon they could expect to become grandparents.

Re: Having children 'is bad for your mental health'

2006-01-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: At 08:31 PM Saturday 1/21/2006, Doug Pensinger wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:33:08 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/17/2006 9:37:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You must have been spared the cliche of your parents starting to ask

Re: Technique

2006-01-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Al Gore says it better than I ever could. Please take the time to read this rather lengthy speach. http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Text_of_Gore_speech_0116.html or http://tinyurl.com/8hxjv There have of course been other periods in American history when the Executive Branch claimed new

Re: Technique

2006-01-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: Indeed, even if/when they rule against Bush on some of his interpretations of executive authority under the Constitution, the whole process is inherently constitutional. Checks and balances doesn't mean that one branch acts with constraint…but that the other branches of government

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