On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 12:58 am, Reggie Bautista wrote:
If I belong to an organization in which I believe strongly, or with
which I agree
strongly, when I see problems in that organization I don't turn coward
and jump
ship. I make my opinion of the problem known and try to fix it
William T Goodall wrote:
I must have missed the announcement when the RC church became a
democracy ... the RC church is not controlled by North American
catholics. It never will be. If you want a more liberal church you'll
have to have a schism and set up an American Pope :)
There's always
William T. Goodall wrote:
I must have missed the announcement when the RC church became a democracy
... the RC church is not controlled by North American catholics. It never
will be. If you want a more liberal church you'll have to have a schism and
set up an American Pope :)
Fairly recent
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
I must have missed the announcement when the RC church became a
democracy ... the RC church is not controlled by North American
catholics. It never will be. If you want a more liberal church you'll
have to have a
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
William T. Goodall wrote:
I must have missed the announcement when the RC church became a democracy
... the RC church is not controlled by North American catholics. It never
will be. If you want a more liberal church you'll have to have a schism
Jan Coffey wrote:
The problem with religious leaders changing their story, or changing the
set
accepted beliefes is
But change is an absolute necessity. The Roman Catholic Church (RCC), or
any
church or any other human organization, needs to be able to react to events
in the world around it,
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 08:07 pm, Reggie Bautista wrote:
William T. Goodall wrote:
I must have missed the announcement when the RC church became a
democracy ... the RC church is not controlled by North American
catholics. It never will be. If you want a more liberal church you'll
At 11:24 AM 10/11/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Fool wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,1059068,00.html
Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids
Sex and the Holy City includes a Catholic nun advising her HIV-infected
Jan Coffey wrote:
Evil, pure evil. Catholics everywhere should be ashamed.
I replied:
As at least a nominal Catholic, I can tell you that ashamed does not
even
begin to cover the reaction felt my most of the other Catholics I've
talked
to. Furious comes a lot closer. YMMV, of course.
Jan
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan Coffey wrote:
Evil, pure evil. Catholics everywhere should be ashamed.
I replied:
As at least a nominal Catholic, I can tell you that ashamed does
not
even
begin to cover the reaction felt my most of the other Catholics
I've
talked
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Fool wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,1059068,00.html
Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids
Sex and the Holy City includes a Catholic nun advising her HIV-infected
choirmaster against using condoms with his wife because
Dan Minette wrote:
The only way to be sure one does not get AIDS is to only
have sex in mutually monogamous relationships.
No, this is wrong. You can't place _sure_ in a statement that
depends on some other people's good behaviour. This
sentence is as correct as the only way to be sure one
From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Today, the director of my children's school was exhibiting
a medal that she got, that was blessed by the Pope. She said
something like it had a lot of power.
I quickly said: it must be very powerfull indeed, much more
powerful than
The Fool wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,1059068,00.html
Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids
Sex and the Holy City includes a Catholic nun advising her HIV-infected
choirmaster against using condoms with his wife because the virus can
pass through.
Jan Coffey responded
Evil,
The Catholic Church is telling people in countries stricken by Aids not
to use condoms (...)
And some people still want to give'em the Nobel Peace Prize.
Well, maybe they deserve it: nothing like a bug killing everybody to
make people forget to kill each other.
Alberto Monteiro
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,1059068,00.html
Vatican: condoms don't stop Aids
Sex and the Holy City includes a Catholic nun advising her HIV-infected
choirmaster against using condoms with his wife because the virus can
pass through.
Jan Coffey wrote:
Evil, pure evil. Catholics everywhere should be ashamed.
Let's help them.
Today, the director of my children's school was exhibiting
a medal that she got, that was blessed by the Pope. She said
something like it had a lot of power.
I quickly said: it must be very
-Original Message-
From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story
- Original Message -
From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'
Consider shining the light the other way. Why would those being consulted
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