Dude!
How could you let something as newsworthy as this nugget pass by the main
Brin list and condemn it to BrinsAttic? I am appalled.
Somehow, I have to think that this alien porn is related to the Dutch
conspiracy that forces the Amish to hide Black Helicopters in their barns
because of the
Rob wrote.
Jerry Pournelle is reporting that Dr. Robert L. Forward has passed
away. His source is an email from the president of the SFWA.
R.I.P.
Robert L. Forward obit - apparently prepared by Dr. Forward himself:
http://www.sfwa.org/news/forward.htm
WELLINGTON (Reuters) - New Zealand's main advocate for
children has branded as psychological abuse the naming
of a child after a notorious criminal gang.
Commissioner for Children Roger McClay said he received
a complaint about a baby boy named Triple M Rogue, which
is short for Mighty Mongrel
This is truly a blast from my past... Freddy The Magic Flute. Now all we
need is Witchy-Poo to make this complete
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1566623563rd=1
Gary
- who thinks a dragon that wears white cowboy
boots may not go over so well in 2002 :-)
Rob's painful subject line
Subject: SH OKs WOMD In Case Of TWAT
Wow, Dude!
That subject line made little explosions go off in my head while trying to
decode it. So far, I have come up with his.
Saddam Hussein OK's Weapons Of Mass Destruction in case of
I just can't seem to
I have always thought that the best way for a terrorist to inflict terror on
a large group of people (or nation) would be for them to strike smell towns
at random - for no apparent reason. That way nobody would feel safe -
anywhere.
It seems that the sniper in Virginia is doing just that. He
Kevin wrote..
I can't remember what they were selling, I think their company
was going to
do a survey of houses in my neighborhood for replacement windows. I asked
her if SHE would be coming out during the survey. She made a
quick comment
with the 800 number and hung up.
It's kind of
Just ran across a lot of 5 Brin books on Ebay for $5.00. Several of them are
out of print (I think) like River Of time, Otherness and the original
printing of The Practice Effect. Glory Season and The Postman are the other
two.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1571400654
Just
www.onion.com
Georgia School Board Bans 'Theory Of Math'
COGDELL, GAThe Cogdell School Board banned the teaching of the
controversial Theory Of Math in its schools Monday. We are simply not
confident of this mysterious process by which numbers turn, as if by magic,
into other numbers, board
One example of a LCHP diet is the Atkins Diet, which first gained
popularity during the 1970s. Limited evidence suggests it may help people
lose weight, but many experts remain concerned about the long-term health
Limited evidence is my favorite part of this kind of propaganda.
Thirty years
This has been going on for a few months, but it seems to be making headlines
again as the final vote draws near.
With all of the academic talent in Columbus, I am ashamed to admit that this
debate is even going on, but fortunately, it seems that reasonable heads
prevail.
For those not familiar,
Doug asked
How would they measure use?
Time Warner / Road Runner, in the last year, has been replacing the older
Motorola cable modems with the new Surfboard. One of the technicians that
did some troubleshooting here was telling me that with this particular modem
they can throttle the
Very interesting website about digital copyright and related issues. This
site also covers the recent controversial Paramount crackdown on
intellectual rights for the Star Trek franchise. There have been several
recent cases where Paramount has come into a science fiction conventions
with Federal
Nick wrote (I think)
It is quite literally a moderating effect.
Jeroen replied.
EXACTLY! Which is exactly why this is a bad idea -- it goes straight
against David Brin's wishes that this list be unmoderated.
Not all moderation is created equal. I would be opposed to moderation or
Alberto wrote...
So, all women should be naked, and the men should drink
alchoholic beverages during Halloween.
Dude! If that's Halloween in your country, I think I need to celebrate
Halloween there!
Gary
From painfully conservative Delaware Ohio
Ok, this website is almost scary. At first it reads much like 'The Onion,
but then you realize that it is for real..
http://www.christianreporter.com/cgi/editorlite/print.cgi
My favorite headline:
Prayer Teams Deploy Against Buddhist Gathering
posted - 11 October, 2002
A 12-day Buddhist
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Behalf Of Doug
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/29/2002 9:05:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
The first time I saw this, I thought it was a joke, then I realized that the
link goes to the United States Patent and Trademark office. Kind of
spooky.
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ahrpa/opa/pulse/epulse/images/april/home
landsecurity.gif
We usually only hear about the bad things that big companies
do. Here's an article about my employer, Hallmark Cards, Inc,
Funny, I ran across this yesterday. How coincidental.. I can certainly
emphasize with some of these sentiments. Also, for those of you that will
whine about my
A local mystery (about 15 miles away) that has once again made the news. The
short of this is that a cemetery marker has a 5200 lb polished granite ball
on it that seems to inexplicably rotate several inches a year. Check this
out...
http://www.alliancelink.com/users/avalon/merchantball.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sci/tech/787776.stm
Monday, 12 June, 2000, 13:25 GMT 14:25 UK
Giant crystal cave discovered
So clear, you can read text through the crystals
By BBC News Online's Jonathan Amos
A gigantic cave of crystals has been
discovered in an old silver mine in Spain.
The
John wrote...
who had told me that he and his wife had been using the rhythm method,
since they were worried about the side effects of birth control.
Reminds me of a joke that I found to be very true
Q. - What do you call couples who use the rhythm method as birth control.
A. - Parents
I am sitting here watching cartoons with the kids and I am amazed at how
violent some of them are.
For example, Justice League is on (Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, etc). The
league traveled back through time and are g\fighting Germans. They are
clearly killing Germans by blowing up the tanks,
Julia wrote
I'm sorry that people are so bent out of shape about it now. Maybe if
people hadn't been getting so bent out of shape about what the
listowners should and should not do before then, it wouldn't have been
an issue that the listowners felt ought not be publicized.
Julia is
Erik wrote
No, she is not, at least not if that is a statement of policy. It
sounded more like an excuse to me, or perhaps an apology with an
excuse. But whatever it is, it is NOT good policy. Come on now, if since
when is it good policy to keep something secret because you are afraid
Justice League is geared to a bit of an older crowd than Super Friends.
Super friends is an inferior product when compared to the earlier (in the
60s) Justice League Of America cartoon that sprung from the
Superman/Batman
hour.
This episode WAS good. I was just a bit surprised that it
Bricks? Would you care to cite that where that happened?
Nope. Sorry. No citing today. Simply my opinion of where that discussion was
going.
It sounds like you have changed your position, because previously you
criticized Rob for doing just that.
Not at all. I have consistently said that
Alberto wrote
What a crappy Website. Takes an absurd time to
load images, the links are not clear, and it aborts
when we try to click.
Some Webdesigners deserve being sent to Iraq :-/
Ok, so broadband has the advantage on this website, but the content is still
interesting - if you can
This website is in the spirit of The Onion website.
WARNING! Don't go there if you are sensitive to religious humor. :-P
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/
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Just ran across this from a trusted source and found it to be absolutely
true. Follow the link below, read about Yahoo's newest web tracking policy
and then decide if you want to opt out.
Gary
PS - I don't usually forward on warning messages, but after looking into the
validity of this
Rob wrote
Seems to be down at the moment.
BBB. Thanks for playing. It's back. :-)
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The Fool wrote...
These are otherwise known as web - bugs. They can access cookies even
from html formatted email messages.
Protect yourself:
Hey thanks, that was useful information that I was not aware of.
Gary
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I have been following the debate about preserving Auschwitz. Personally, I
think it is time to let that part of the past go and move on. I am not sure
what purpose would be served by preserving or memorializing those camps
other than to remind people of the hate and crimes that went on there. It
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I'm on constant search for a copy at my local used bookstores.
One that does
not have a white creased spine.
Go to AbeBooks ( www.abebooks.com ) and do a search. I found 291 matches
ranging from $3.00 paperbacks to a signed copy hardcover for $172.50.
Gary
various criticisms deleted.
Regardless of Jeroen's motives or terms, give him a little credit for being
willing to give up the domain - and give him a break.
Gary
Gary L. Nunn
Delaware Ohio
The hardest thing in life to learn is
which
Speaking of childish, isn't doing more than tit-for-tat (i.e., rejecting
each one back to him just once) childish? :) Wouldn't it be a lot more
effective to set up some sort of system that just bounces everything he
sends you back to him, so you never have to worry about it after setting
it
Gosh, as much as I hate to break up the party and make an *actual* Brin
related post, does anyone know what the good Doctor is up to lately? Is he
subbed? Unsubbed? Lurking? Traveling? Writing?
Inquiring minds want to know :-)
Gary
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William Taylor wrote
I know that he's pushed back working on the novel of 3,000 high
school kids
being kidnapped by aliens. [I hope not because it reads a bit
like the novel
1632 in places.]
That story idea is *very* close to another book that I read about aliens
plotting and kidnapping
I am having a difficult time understanding how Lexmark does business. I have
a Lexmark Z22 printer. The replacement high-res color cartridge costs $34.95
to replace. However, for $29.00, I can buy a *NEW* Z22 printer that includes
the high-res color cartridge. It is literally $5.00 cheaper, every
1) Has the Lexmark Z22 been available consistently at that price for a
number of months, or is this a short-term sale?
Yes, this has been a consistent price here locally. Not sure about
nationally.
2) If so, did Lexmark decide to take some short term losses to build
market share?
No clue
Transcript of an interview from Science Fiction Age magazine.
participants: David Brin, Robert L. Forward, and Jonathan Vos Post
Sorry if this has been posted before :-)
http://www.sff.net/people/Geoffrey.Landis/stl.htp
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Rob posted.
http://www.space.com/searchforlife/seti_shostak_wow_021205.html
Of the many maybe's that SETI has turned up in its four-decade history,
none is better known than the one that was discovered in August, 1977, in
Columbus, Ohio. The famous Wow signal was found as part of a
Reggie asked...
Harureruru... Isn't that a city in Hawaii?
or else it's a fierce sneeze..
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Sounds like the makings of an urban legend, but this is from the Darwin
Awards newsletter.
NOMINEE No. 5: [Bloomberg News Service]: A terrible diet and a room with no
ventilation are being blamed for the death of a man who was killed by his
own gas. There was no mark on his body but an
Some people have way, way, way too much time on their hands :-)
http://www.rathergood.com/vikings
http://svt.se/hogafflahage/hogafflaHage_site/Kor/hestekor.swf?id=63747
( Click on and off any of the horses at any time )
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Just ran across this awesome database for speculative fiction.
The link below is for the Brin entries, or should I say, Glen David Brin
entries? :-)
Looks fairly complete, including quite a few articles and stories that I
have never heard of.
Brin entry:
Alberto asked
If anyone remembers anything that happens in 2003 in
any sf timeline, please tell me. I am desperately in need
of events for this Year. It seems that almost nothing
happens in 2003 :-/
Just looking over the previous years and I can't believe that you missed
2001:Space
Gheeezzz Compared to the rest of y'all, I feel like The List
Criminal. Hey, on the positive side, that bad boy image always seems to
attract women (for everyone else that is), just hopefully not a 6 ft,
300 lb bearded cellmate named Bubba that keeps referring to me as My
Bitch
Gary
Hard
Years in prison: 97 Potential fine: £7000
You guys wouldn't last 10 seconds in my world!
Adam C. Lipscomb
Woo - hoo ! A fellow List Criminal !
:-)
Gary
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Do you have to drag the body backwards a few feet, or just
drip some blood on
your carpet?
William Taylor
I was not sure if this was a serious question or not, but I'll give you
a serious answer anyway
In many , if not most, states, killing in self defense in the home has
to pass two
Find out just how much of a model citizen you are A word of
caution... remember that this is a British website and them British tend
to do things a bit different :-)
http://www.thesite.org/magazine/dodgy.html
I had potentially 17 years in prison :-)
Gary
Anyone here have, or known someone who has, sleep apnea? I am curious
about the before and after comparisons after beginning treatment. Not
the obvious of sleeping better, but the more subjective things like
cognitive ability, memory, physical health (including weight), etc.
Just curious.
New rule one: Never respond to mail when I am sleep
deprived.
Another rule I am considering is just simply not to read any
Brin-L mail on days that I am tired or not feeling well.
That will prevent bad responses before they happen, but may
Michael Harney
Michael, I truly feel your
Sometimes I have far too much time to think about things on the way to
work.
For example, in the Matrix universe, what functional reason would the
machines have for plugging humans into a simulation (besides the obvious
of being a plot device)? Wouldn't the power generation ability of humans
be
Sorry if someone already covered this
Just picked up the July/August issue of Analog and it has a story by
DB in it. I have not read it yet so I am not sure if it is a new or old
story.
Gary
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Yea, I guess I am hoping that if they are at least clever
enough to steal from philosophy then they are clever enough
to steal from Level 13, Brazil, Dark Planet, level 13 (the
movie), Max Headroom, etc.
_
Jan William Coffey
Benadryl! She's been taking it every night before she goes
to bed for a couple of months now and it has done wonders for
her. She's not complaining about being tired anymore. Her
behavior has improved markedly. It's wonderful.
All because of a link posted to this list!
That's why I
Callers are paying $2 a minute for a supernatural adviser. They're
getting me instead.
ESP Net's online guidance site asserts that it is an unrealistic
expectation for callers to assume psychics are psychic. But its
contract is more ambiguous about occult powers. While it stated I could
not
P.S. A friend recommended (loaning me the DVD) I watch a
mini-series called The 10th Kingdom. I was sceptical at
first, but ended up really having a good time with it.
Anyone seen it?
George A
The 10th Kingdom was a great family movie, I even bought my daughter the
DVD. Who could not
Is the DVD the whole ten hours as it was originally broadcast, or the
repeat broadcast where they cut out a couple of hours,
including some of
the best stuff?
-- Ronn! :)
It is the complete broadcast. There were two versions of the DVD, a two
disk set and a three disk set. I think the
Jeroen wrote.
I recommend that you accept this offer -- otherwise things
can and probably
will only escalate even further (no, that's not a threat,
that's insight
into how conflicts can escalate) and nobody stands to gain
anything from
that. Don't demand apologies; this is the
Jan wrote
Can we all just agree to his proposal and end this thing?
Erik replied
No. For the last time, Jan, his proposal amounts to
blackmail. I and others have explained this. YOU, Jan, are
making this worse by encouraging his behavior. Since you are
so fond of
Erik wrote
It seems you are a sucker for whining.
You are being naive.
That's all I'm going to say to you about this.
Erik, you are clearly an intelligent person and I have always enjoyed
reading your posts - even when you are being abrasive, so please know
that this next comment was
Since no one else has mentioned it I thought that I would mention
Katherine Hepburn's recent death on Sunday past. Ms. Hepburn was
possibly the finest actress in American film for over six
decades (her
john
Seems like we lost several great entertainers in the last week...
Of course
that Hepburn and Peck sis, but I grew up watching him.
Gary
My typing sucks tonight, that line should read.
that Hepburn and Peck did, but I grew up watching him.
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Buddy Hackett died? I didn't even hear that.
Jim
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/ap20030701_1990.html
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The first movie was released as _Pitch Black_ in the US. It's
one of my
favorite recent SF flicks, and I'm very glad they're making a sequel
(prequel?); it was a nicely gritty and (somewhat) realistic
From the Sci-Fi Wire
Riddick Starts Up
Principal photography commenced July 1 on
This is a good news/bad news kind of thing, good that the sci-fi channel
has some great ratings, sad at what it was that gave them the great
ratings (I am not including Stargate in that statement)
SCI FI Has Record Ratings
he SCI FI Channel reported that it drew record ratings in the second
An image that definitively and clearly illustrates the difference
between men and women.
http://www.newpacifica.net/life.html
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Read about this briefly in TV Guide today and found some stuff online.
Most of the stuff online is dated 2001, but this article seems to be
more recent...
http://makeashorterlink.com/?D19B42865
Some older stories about this
http://www.gateworld.net/news/archive/spinoffnews.shtml
Another Stargate article (mentions spin-off series)
TV Guide: Stargate returns for Season Eight
JULY 16, 2003
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G5AB26865
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Are you posting to the correct forum? I thought this was a political
message list. ;-)
Kevin T. - VRWC
It WAS a political message It was subliminal... Didn't you get it?
Gary
You are getting sleepy Maru
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Brin mention.
- 2003 HUGO AWARDS POLL
It's time once again for Science Fiction Weekly's annual unofficial
Hugo Awards poll! What were the best SF books, movies and stories of
2002?
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/hugo/2003results.php
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No doubt the Sci-Fi channel will be running this one right next to their
other blockbusters Tremors and Scare Tactics. If it wasn't bad
enough that they are going to remake Dukes of Hazzard, they had to go
and cast..
Britney Becomes a Duke
Yee-haw! According to the folks over at
Very cool
Leaving a bubbly wake behind, Sea Launch's Odyssey launch platform
cruises at full speed toward the equator in the Pacific Ocean in this
aerial view captured Aug. 1 and returned to company headquarters via
satellite
http://www.space.com/imageoftheday/image_of_day_030806.html
Spammers can certainly be as creative as they can be annoying.
With MailWasher, I am bouncing and deleting an average of 30 messages a
day, probably twice that on weekends. I am assuming that those weekend
spammers have real jobs during the week. :-)
I received an email in my box today, but
Interesting image of the blackout from a geosynchronous satellite
http://www.rbduncan.com/space.jpg
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Alberto wrote.
What I *really* would like now is so simple that I still
don't know why
it's not available: a system so that I can keep track of the
_approximate_ location of a cell phone. Cell Phones are all the time
connected to a nearby station, so this system would enable me, for
Galileo, the interplanetary spacecraft that has changed the way we
understand Jupiter and its 61 known moons, will perish on the 21st of
this month as it plunges into the Jovian atmosphere. NASA engineers have
put Galileo on a collision course with the planet so that the
spacecraft, which is
This image comes in 7 different flavors, depending on your connection
speed. I downloaded the 2.49 mb .JPG file and am currently downloading
the 76 MB TIFF file. If you have the connection speed (or patience) and
your PC has the resources to open these larger images, they are
definitely worth
The Final Day on Galileo
Sunday, September 21, 2003
The Wind-Up
Well, after twelve years of pre-launch development and
planning, six years of interplanetary cruise, and nearly
eight years in orbit, our exciting, quarter-century odyssey
I posted the link below a week or two ago,
Frivolous question of the day.
Archeology or archaeology?
Which is the correct spelling? Yourdictionary.com lists both. Google
brings back results for both.
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First it was removing the shoes, next we are all going to have to board
the plane and fly in our underwear.
I am starting to think that there is some terrorist office or maybe some
government office that just sits around and thinks of the most off the
wall, unlikely scenarios that they can
Bill to Restore Vision for NASA's Human Spaceflight Program
Excerpts from article
Washington - Sep 10, 2003
press release by Nick Lampson
After today's House Science Committee hearing on returning the Space
Shuttle to flight, U.S. Rep. Nick Lampson re-introduced his Space
Exploration Act.
On Behalf Of Kevin Tarr
Just wondering about three commercials on the telly. The
first is the new
subway campaign where the people can do something bad because
they had
subway for lunch. Specifically the one that ends with the man
washing the
car in the cheerleader outfit. Is the
Anyone remember Vanity? The Prince protégée and sex goddess of the 80's?
I ran across this website (see ling below) and thought that she looked
familiar. I was amazed to discover that she is the artist formally known
as Vanity.
Quite a lifestyle change from Hollywood.
Jan wrote...
Prince was a geneous, but all that crew were always jesus
freeks. You have heard of flirty fising right?
I am not familiar with that reference. Do tell.
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...New research shows that common house pets such as
cats and ferrets may easily become infected with the
SARS virus and spread the disease to others.
I will have to crack down and keep my cat out of China and Toronto :-)
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Saw this tonight and I have to say that I am disappointed. It was just
ok. It didn't have the punch and impact of the first Matrix and some
of the scenes were waayy too long. At the end of the movie,
I was asking the question is this all? You have got to be kidding. As
Keanu said in
In my humble opinion, hell no, but that is just me :-)
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:19 PM
To: 'Killer Bs Discussion'
Subject: RE: Matrix Revolutions - no spoilers
Is it
Jeff asked...
So what movies are coming out that you would be willing to wait for?
During the 22 minutes of previews before Matrix, one of the coming
movies looks very promising...
http://www.thedayaftertomorrow.com/
IMDB entry... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/
Plot Outline (from IMDB)
This may have been on our subservient list; someone was asking about
ICQs? I cannot find the thread. Someone opinioned that there
were programs
that would search all services, not just AOLIM. I got ICQ,
but it only
seems to search itself and AOLIM. A friend is on MSN's IM
(he's
George asked...
You're kidding, right
No kidding, literally there were 22 minutes of previews and commercials.
Doug asked...
That one looked promising?
(talking about The Day After Tomorrow)
To ME it looked promising. :-)
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The Wal-Mart experience of the day
Ok, I am not really into the conspiracy theory thing, except for the
covert Black Helicopters owned by the Amish, but that's a different
theory... ANYWAY, I would like to know what sadistic, man hating woman,
designed shopping carts that put an angry two
During my somewhat painful trip to Wal-Mart today (see other email) I
ran across a gift line that has to be the ultimate in tacky and
thoughtlessness: Pre-wrapped Christmas gifts. Stupid ones at that.
Ceramic pigs sitting on their ass wearing aprons. And just to complete
the series, other
Some of these I could agree with, but others seem almost like blasphemy
coming from a science fiction writer.
10 technologies that deserve to die
By Bruce Sterling
Technology Review
10.21.2003
A science fiction writer's irreverent take.
1. Nuclear Weapons
2. Coal-Based Power
3. The Internal
That's cool with meI mean its only a figure of speech in any case.
xponent
Informal Talk Maru
rob
Careful Rob, Erik is flirting with you like her used to flirt with You
Know Who.
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This is absurd. I start by
asking a straightforward question about the phenol and flavonoid
...yadda, yadda, yadda
major snip
Gheeze Debbie, next time bring up a less controversial subject like left
handed Republican abortion supporters condemning gun control. Surly you
could have
An interesting interactive map of volcano's worldwide that are currently
active or in the news
http://www.volcano.si.edu/gvp/reports/usgs/worldmap.cfm
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An interesting map charting UFO sightings worldwide. This seems to be a
serious attempt to track all edged UFO sightings worldwide. Interesting.
http://www.larryhatch.net/MAPSMENU.html
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