Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-19 Thread Carl Von Stetten
One weird thing I noticed when installing Dreamweaver CC: it actually stopped mid-install and made me shut down my ColdFusion 10 services before I could proceed any further. If ColdFusion is no longer supported in DW, why would it be checking for and stopping if ColdFusion is running? -Carl

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-19 Thread Russ Michaels
Perhsps there are hidden features tgst are disabled by default. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk On 19 Jun 2013 16:16, Carl Von Stetten vonner.li...@vonner.net wrote: One weird thing I noticed when installing Dreamweaver CC: it actually stopped mid-install and made me shut down my

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-19 Thread John M Bliss
Relevant: http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/open-coldfusion-dreamweaver-cc.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion

Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Mike K
Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code completion etc for ColdFusion, apparently. Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Gerald Guido
Apparently that is the case. https://twitter.com/AlexHubner/status/342704099806023682 G! On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently.

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Russ Michaels
sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE. Very annoying as I liked DW On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread John M Bliss
FWIW, they still sell a CF-enabled IDE: http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-builder.html And you can, of course, still use DW for HTML/CSS/JS/etc. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently that is the case.

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Wil Genovese
I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave Dreamweaver to designers. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Raymond Camden
Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder. There is a free edition. And yes - we've already announced plans for an update. So - there ya go. No need to panic - again - right? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've never been and never will be

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Mark Drew
I thought you could get a free version of CFBuilder?? Hence the stopping of support in dw Regards Mark Drew Sent from a mobile device On 18 Jun 2013, at 18:59, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Raymond Camden
Details on free version of ColdFusion Builder: http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html Note this is from two years ago. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.comwrote: Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder.

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Russ Michaels
most developers do have to do layout work as well, even if they have been provided with a ready made design, they usually have to then convert that design into HTML and then insert dynamic content etc. I don;t know many devs who are like you and only ever write server side code and never ever do

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Marty Franklin
Can you install the ColdFusion tags MXP file in CC. Would that add support or only the tag lib? On 6/18/2013 10:59 AM, Wil Genovese wrote: I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user. I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say leave

RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Patti, Michael
. FlashBuilder Premium is included, but not CFBuilder. Seriously? Talk about putting us between a rock and a hard place. -Michael -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe no longer supports

RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Ben Forta
-Original Message- From: Patti, Michael [mailto:mpa...@sherwood-group.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:07 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? There is a conspicuous absence of CFBuilder amongst the applications that are available for download through

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Wil Genovese
I think some of the complaining is from people that 'fear' learning an Eclipse style IDE. At the Twin Cities CFUG a week ago a few people expressed that they didn't want to learn such a complicated IDE. That and having to actually pay for software came up again. I did point out the free

RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J
Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:04 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? most developers do have to do layout work as well, even if they have been provided with a ready made design, they usually have to then convert

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Raymond Camden
I'll point out that if you don't want to use an Eclipse-based IDE (I don't - I've been honest about that the last few years), you can get CFML support in Sublime (not free, but cheap), and in Brackets (free, and epic). On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote:

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Gerald Guido
Yeah, what Russ said. DW is great for UI development, JS and jQuery. Autosuggest for jQuery selectors and functions etc. I do boatloads of frontend JS and UI work and DW is by far my tool of choice for that. G! On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: most

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread mikey graziano
i downloaded cf10 extension for dreamweaver cs6 http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/downloads.html Have I missed something here? I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to Dreamweaver CC and ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently. There are no CFM file types, no tag hinting or code

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Ron Thigpen
Sublime Text 2 is a fine code oriented IDE for ColdFusion. There is a syntax package specifically for ColdFusion. Also great tools for HTML/JS/CSS web development. Cheap (free to try), small, fast and with excellent community support. Give it a try. You may like it.

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Russ Michaels
: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? most developers do have to do layout work as well, even if they have been provided with a ready made design, they usually have to then convert that design into HTML and then insert dynamic content etc. I don;t know many devs who are like you

RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Patti, Michael
] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:07 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really? There is a conspicuous absence of CFBuilder amongst the applications that are available for download through the Creative Cloud application manager. Seems absurd that we'd have to pay

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
I had not seen this, but I'm not surprised either. One, Dreamweaver is really a designer's editor (IMO). I'm actually surprised that they continue to support any server side language, of any kind. Two, Adobe already has a first class ColdFusion file editor in ColdFusion Builder, built on

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Russ Michaels
because thousands of people like it and use it for development, that's why. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: I had not seen this, but I'm not surprised either. One, Dreamweaver is really a designer's editor (IMO). I'm actually

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Bruce Sorge
I'll admit that I usually do my design work in DW, or Photoshop (slice and dice when done), and then once I have my design the way I want it, I'll switch to code view and hand code my CF into the page(s). I find that to be much easier than hand coding the entire thing. Except CSS. I usually hand

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Byron Mann
+1 for Sublime, just started using it and love it for almost all file types. Well worth the small fee. Byron Mann Lead Engineer Architect HostMySite.com On Jun 18, 2013 2:15 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: I'll point out that if you don't want to use an Eclipse-based IDE

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
I wrap design code around my CF all day long, in ColdFusion Builder. I might slice up a PSD, but I just take the html produced (typically from Fireworks, though that workflow's about to change), clean it up in CFB, and I'm done. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Russ Michaels
+2 I now use it as my default text editor too, replaced notepad++ which was on 32bit and causes problems with certain files on windows (such applicationhost.config), sublime is 64bit so works with all. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Byron Mann byronos...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for Sublime,

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com wrote: I thought you could get a free version of CFBuilder?? You can... go to ColdFusion Summit and you get a copy for free! http://cfsummit.adobeevents.com/

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Wil Genovese
The trial version becomes the Express Version after the trail period ends. Thus free. Sent from my iPad, enjoy the auto replace typos :) On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:23 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Mark Drew

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Mike K
Again, I might be wrong here, but if you make ColdFusion sites, Dreamweaver CC is impossible to use, because you can't render any of the pages, use any of the responsive features, or the site management features, or use any live view. It wont even open the files.You can't use it to do the

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Patti, Michael mpa...@sherwood-group.comwrote: I happen to like CFBuilder, and use the free version on a regular basis, but a colleague (and a very talented CF Developer) prefers DW, even though I've tried to convince her to use CFBuilder. Up 'til now, DW

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Raymond Camden
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe really have no clue how to support and market any server products. I said that when i saw what a fiasco the forms product was for them, now it looks like ColdFusion is 'deprecated' too. *sigh* Let me repeat

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Mike K
Ray, removing CF File support from Dreamweaver means the WHOLE PRODUCT is useless in ColdFusion sites. You can't use any of the Dreamweaver product to develop a ColdFusion site because you can't open the files. Unless you build a whole bunch of static html pages, lay them out and design

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Mike K
I should add, I'm not a DEVELOPER. I run a one-man shop - i am Designer, Coder, Developer, Strategist, Consultant, Hosting company, Domain Registry - I do the whole thing. I dont just cut code.I'm in a very large group of people who arent working in a development team. It makes no

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Les Mizzell
On 6/18/2013 9:31 PM, Mike K wrote: Again, I might be wrong here, but if you make ColdFusion sites, Dreamweaver CC is impossible to use Not impossible. But Adobe, for one reason or another, has made it dificult... Do this: 1. Go to preferences 2. In the choose external applications section,

Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

2013-06-18 Thread Mike K
Thanks Les! That helps a lot.Jeez why didnt Adobe just say that instead of all that 'deprecated' business? Or as you say include an option to have .cfm and .cfc files associated with Dreamweaver, just like they did with .js and .css ?? Anyway - moving on now. a carer's work is never