On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 17:07 pm, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
It does matter, your player is out of date :
The web site should say that then.
I only installed it a month or so ago !
What is the current version now and I'll go upgrade and try again.
--
Tom C
Land of the free, home of the
The latest version is 6,0,79,0 ...it has been upgraded due to a security
issue within the player...
HTH
Neil
-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 March 2003 15:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 17
http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
At 03:01 PM 3/7/2003 +, you wrote:
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 17:07 pm, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
It does matter, your player is out of date :
The web site should say that then.
I only installed it
How do you find out which version is installed? (Using IE6.0.28 and
winXPPro)?
Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 8 March 2003 2:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New
On Friday 07 Mar 2003 15:08 pm, Todd wrote:
http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=S
Oh, look, going from r69 to r79 hasn't improved a thing
mock surprise
--
Tom C
Land of the free, home of the brave... you have to be brave to live there and
enjoy the
http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/test_version.htm
mike chambers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
How do you
fantastic - I wish I could design sites that look that good), but
because of the way it works (or doesn't).
Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: New Macromedia.com launched
Sorry, way OT by now.
I took a seminar a while back on Section 508 and they explained that the
word Handicap was given to disabled people because most disabled people at
the time were Vietnam vets. The word handy capped means to had out a
baseball call in and ask for a hand out.
What a
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
It would be nice if the Macromedia website validated to some version of
the (X)HTML standard. Then we would not only know who to blame if a
certain browser failed to work properly, but it would also be a nice
conclusion of the efforts
Is there anyway you can get Outlook to ignore conversation threads ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 March 2003 10:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Jochem, you make a good point. One of the major criticisms
On Wednesday 05 Mar 2003 09:44 am, Oliver Cookson wrote:
The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a
little slow in places).
*in places* ?
Everywhere !
Just visting the front page causes my CPU to jump to 100% and stay there.
The menus are *highly* unresponsive.
At
On Wednesday 05 Mar 2003 16:43 pm, Bill Wheatley wrote:
Hopefully they fix the opera thing quickly. I mean its only a browser with
10%, and growing, of the market.
What market ?
--
Tom C
Land of the free, home of the brave... you have to be brave to live there and
enjoy the freedoms
Hey Thomas, what Flash Player version are you running?
-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 March 2003 16:51
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
On Wednesday 05 Mar 2003 09:44 am, Oliver Cookson wrote:
The new Macromedia.com has
On Wednesday 05 Mar 2003 18:52 pm, Christian Cantrell wrote:
Evolution is not always easy, but somebody has to do it.
Yeah, but don't do it in *public* FFS !
Not that you can roll it back - you'll get even more stick.
--
Tom C
Land of the free, home of the brave... you have to be brave to
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 16:49 pm, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
Hey Thomas, what Flash Player version are you running?
I have no idea.
Hold on...
File name: libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 6.0 r69
apperently.
Not that it matters. If it's shite in version X, and you know it is shite
It does matter, your player is out of date :
-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 March 2003 17:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 16:49 pm, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
Hey Thomas, what Flash
As Stan points out, I never realized how much I desperately need a
right-click Open in New Window until it disappeared in the DevEx.
That one is definitely going into the feedback form.
Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSB Designs, Inc.
If version 6.0 isn't bleeding edge enough... that's a problem as far as
I'm concerned.
--
Jillian
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 6, 2003 11:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
It does matter
How about holding down shift when clicking on the link? (the keyboard
shortcut?)
-Zine
-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! -- THE END
As Stan points out, I never
Jillian Carroll wrote:
If version 6.0 isn't bleeding edge enough... that's a problem as far as
I'm concerned.
They should all work on the site. But older versions have security
issues. But it would be nice if the Macromedia site warned you if you
weren't using the lastest and greatest
Ezine wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! -- THE END
As Stan points out, I never realized how much I desperately need a
right-click Open in New
Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's supposed to
:)
Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it over a modem
though!
-Original Message-
From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New Macromedia.com
I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button problem
which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much cleaner.
-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com
, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:06 PM
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button
problem
which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much cleaner
Ryan Sabir wrote:
I went into the accessibility section, and turned on the HTML version which
Unfortunately, the downloads section appears to ignore the
mediaprefs=gif cookie (and the downloads section is completely
inaccessible in every Lynx version I have).
Jochem
the old back button problem
which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much cleaner.
-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't
March 2003 15:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere... it's bad
design, slow and confusing in many regards...
They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain this
morning to find the Exchanges... had
in this browser)
- IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly)
It's unfortunate.
--
Jillian
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
I
Come on guys... it is a Beta version.
Is there only never happy people on this list?
Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere...
it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...
I disagree about the bad design and confusing things arguments (...
agree about the slow
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Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash
everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...
They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite
a pain this morning
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:11 AM, paris lundis wrote:
They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain
this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map
The locations of sections and applications on the site should not have
changed, although in many
' bar don't work properly)
It's unfortunate.
--
Jillian
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice
: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
I'm surprised MM would launch this site given:
- Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to
be watching
- They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has
matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc.
For my own interest
Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 11:02:27 AM, you wrote:
CC We know there are still some rough edges, and we will get them worked
CC out. Just keep in mind that this project was a massive effort, so it
CC will take a little time to get all the kinks worked out.
This would be the crux of the matter to
-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Come on guys... it is a Beta version.
Is there only never happy people on this list?
Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere...
it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...
I disagree about the bad design and confusing
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:59 AM, Benoit Hediard wrote:
They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a
pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map
Not very hard...
Select Product ColdFusion MX on the home page, and then you'll get
a
Tried to use opera 7 and it just keeps reloading the main page.
-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 11:02:27 AM, you wrote:
CC We know
Does MM really think that all developers have broadband??? I'm on a lan
now, and it takes a while to load. I can't imagine how long it will
take my home PC on a dial-up.
Scott
-Original Message-
From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:45 AM
To:
The exchange is linked from the Download page, which itself is linked from
virtually every page on the site.
mike chambers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: paris lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain this
morning to
Benoit -
First point, if it's beta, why is it on their production site? Furthermore, it fails
some of the most basic requirements (i.e. document validity). Moreover, it doesn't
even have alt tags on some images.
Second, Flash, in of itself, may not be bad design or confusing, but it certainly
News
Beta.
Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com
-Message d'origine-
De : Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mercredi 5 mars 2003 17:21
À : CF-Talk
Objet : RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
If it's a beta version, why is it public then?
I mean, I wouldn't think that it's
: Christian Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
The new macromedia.com is certainly a next generation site, and
unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention
below. I hope people
properly)
It's unfortunate.
--
Jillian
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to
look at first off
Yea but the issue with the mm home page is that it takes initially a
while to load, then every click I make has this sluggishness to it, and
most of the buttons create a page request which seems contradict
macromedia flashes power of reducing http requests.
On a few flash lists I am active on
-- Original Message --
From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Come on guys... it is a Beta version.
If it's truly a Beta version as it says, then going to http://www.macromedia.com
should not go to the new site. It should go to the old site with a Check
launch to
the
public several months ago (nearly a year) and it is still Google News
Beta.
Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com
-Message d'origine-
De : Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
EnvoyT : mercredi 5 mars 2003 17:21
+ : CF-Talk
Objet : RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
If it's
) and it is still Google News
Beta.
Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com
-Message d'origine-
De : Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mercredi 5 mars 2003 17:21
À : CF-Talk
Objet : RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
If it's a beta version, why is it public then?
I mean
Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
-Original Message-
From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Yea but the issue with the mm home page is that it takes initially a
while to load
with other companies sites?
- Original Message -
From: Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
That is the biggest load of BS i've heard all day. Its a website!
Test the crap before
Hi Mike,
Furthermore, it fails some of the most basic requirements (i.e.
document validity).
I don't think that XHTML compliance is so important, as soon as the site
provides XML-compliant feeds of its content.
Second, Flash, in of itself, may not be bad design or confusing,
but it
: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Come on guys... it is a Beta version.
Is there only never happy people on this list?
Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere...
it's bad design, slow and confusing in many
Scott Wilhelm wrote:
Does MM really think that all developers have broadband??? I'm on a lan
now, and it takes a while to load. I can't imagine how long it will
take my home PC on a dial-up.
Run a counter on your connection, client side bandwidth is not the
issue, it is something else. I
11:01 AM
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
You know that MM is not the only site that does not work well with Opera.
Wells Fargo Bank's On-Line banking does not work well either. There are a
few others that do not work with Opera, so MM is not the only one out
: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Yea but the issue with the mm home page is that it takes initially a
while to load, then every click I make has this sluggishness to it, and
most of the buttons
]
*
-Original Message-
From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
-Original Message-
From: Jason Miller [mailto
stuff, but falls short on the big picture, and now
needs to work on damage control.
Scott
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
You know that MM is not the only site
I quite like it (the new site I mean).
w
-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 17:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Tell me about it... it sure would be nice on all of us if all the browsers
would get together
theres a few things I can think of getting Nielsen to end... ;)
w
-Original Message-
From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 16:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
-Original Message-
From
Bruce Sorge wrote:
You know that MM is not the only site that does not work well with Opera.
Wells Fargo Bank's On-Line banking does not work well either.
Wells Fargo is not a member of the W3C. Macromedia is.
It would be nice if the Macromedia website validated to some version of
the (X)HTML
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
That's about the dumbest thing I've heard in the conversations today.
If 10% of the market uses Opera, it's an established browser...Why
shouldn't a site test for it? Especially a company such as Macromedia.
They screwed up big time. They designed a site
-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
All due respect to Mr. Neilsen, but he's a boring old codger. While
usability is important it's NOT the be-all end-all of web design and
development. I'm not sure how he became the de-facto
Entirely agree
-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
All due respect to Mr. Neilsen, but he's a boring old codger. While
usability is important it's NOT the be-all
But from what I hear he's one hell of a dancer!
-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
All due respect to Mr. Neilsen, but he's a boring old codger. While
usability
Yea but it wasnt googles man page ;)
- Original Message -
From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
If it's a beta version, why is it public then?
Sometimes when you are trying
Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
That'd be a waste of time and money... daft old codger!!
I wouldn't listen to too much that he says these days - the guy is still
stuck in his ways from the early 90's when what he had to say was true and
perfectly acceptable for the state of the network
there to show 10% Opera usage, I'd love to
see it (yes, i -am- skeptical) :)
charlie
Scott
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
You know that MM
the issue is here is that it says its XHTML - which it isnt.
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 17:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Bruce Sorge wrote:
You know that MM is not the only site that does not work
the past several weeks
Netscape usage hasn't been higher than 4 percent, Johnston said.
Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com
-Message d'origine-
De : Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : mercredi 5 mars 2003 18:21
À : CF-Talk
Objet : RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
That's
Agreed...most of our sites have no more than 1% hits from Opera users,
according to our web stats.
w
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 17:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
I dont think its dumb
I agree 100% with this. We can go on and on ad nauseum (and likely will)
debating over who sucks more...Macromedia or Opera.
I'd have to say at this point, they're both in the 'wrong' (for lack of a
better term). As Jochem said, if MM would validate to a w3 standard, such
as XHTML, that
needs to get on board and
make their browser work with other companies sites?
- Original Message -
From: Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
That is the biggest load of BS i've heard
Pablo,
Don't let a disabled person hear you call them Handicapped, that is the
Politically incorrect term (by the way).
I took a seminar a while back on Section 508 and they explained that the
word Handicap was given to disabled people because most disabled people at
the time were Vietnam
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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
All due respect to Mr. Neilsen, but he's a boring old codger. While
usability is important it's NOT the be-all end-all of web design and
development. I'm not sure how he
]
*
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! - Give it a rest!
Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
That'd be a waste of time
- Original Message -
From: Pablo Varando [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Tell me about it... it sure would be nice on all of us if all the browsers
would get together and use a single standard
I'm glad to see that the devex search is still as slow as it used to
be... At least that didn't change...
- jim
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Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4
Subscription:
Now, we can only guess whether Macromedia or
Opera is to blame and wait until somebody
produces an XHTML compliant copy of the Macromedia
website to prove it is possible, just like in
the past Microsoft [1] and others have been
proven to just not care about about the standards
they
, Johnston said.
Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com
-Message d'origine-
De : Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
EnvoyT : mercredi 5 mars 2003 18:21
+ : CF-Talk
Objet : RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
That's about the dumbest thing I've heard in the conversations
today.
If 10
Don't let a disabled person hear you call them
Handicapped, that is the
Politically incorrect term (by the way).
I took a seminar a while back on Section 508 and they
explained that the
word Handicap was given to disabled people because most
disabled people at
the time were Vietnam vets.
-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Don't let a disabled person hear you call them Handicapped, that is the
Politically incorrect term (by the way).
I took a seminar a while back on Section 508 and they explained that the
word Handicap was given to disabled people because most
Let's get Jakob Nielsen to end this
That'd be a waste of time and money... daft old codger!!
I wouldn't listen to too much that he says these days - the
guy is still stuck in his ways from the early 90's when what
he had to say was true and perfectly acceptable for the state
of
: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Pablo,
Don't let a disabled person hear you call them Handicapped, that is
the
Politically incorrect term (by the way).
I took a seminar a while back on Section
Nice one on the technote about why we won't be able to see half the site:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/general/ts/documents/macromedia.com_site_r
equire.htm
scroll down
Last updated:February 3, 2003
Created:February 12, 2003
Can anyone see something funny here?
, March 05, 2003 12:21 PM
Subject: OT: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! -- handicapped
Don't let a disabled person hear you call them
Handicapped, that is the
Politically incorrect term (by the way).
I took a seminar a while back on Section 508 and they
explained that the
word Handicap
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 12:20 PM, Scott Wilhelm wrote:
They designed a site that looks good, tries
to do some fancy stuff, but falls short on the big picture, and now
needs to work on damage control.
I won't speak for other Macromedia employees, but for the record, do
not mistake any
:27 AM
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Political Correctness is evil. While I appreciate Pablo's input...isn't
it
just as 'politically incorrect' to generalize about a particular group of
people?
Pablo: 'they get really pissed if you call them handicapped'
Just making a point
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Political Correctness is evil. While I appreciate Pablo's input...isn't
it
just as 'politically incorrect' to generalize about a particular group of
people?
Pablo: 'they get really pissed if you call them handicapped'
Just making a point :)
Charlie
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Nice one on the technote about why we won't be able to see half the site:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/general/ts/documents
-Original Message-
From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Political Correctness is evil. While I appreciate Pablo's
input...isn't it
just as 'politically incorrect
-
From: Pablo Varando [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! -- THE END
You know I never really use Opera (nothing other then Netscape or IE
really), however you have to ask yourself this. While being
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From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Political Correctness is evil. While I appreciate Pablo's
input...isn't it
just as 'politically incorrect
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From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!
Political Correctness is evil. While I appreciate Pablo's
input...isn't it just as 'politically incorrect
Jim Davis writes:
That's why I skirt the whole handicapped (implies cap in hand!) vrs
disabled (implied broken in some way!) issue and go with Cripple.
You definitely get the 'Two Posts in One Day to CF-Talk That Made Milk Come
Out of Charlie's Nose' award
(the other one being your
| That's why I skirt the whole handicapped (implies cap in hand!) vrs
| disabled (implied broken in some way!) issue and go with Cripple.
|
| Jim Davis
|
ROTFLMAO!
I am partially disabled. That is parts of me that used to function, don't any more.
The signs in parking lots still say
: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
All due respect to Mr. Neilsen, but he's a boring old codger. While
usability is important it's NOT the be-all end-all of web design and
development. I'm not sure how he became the de-facto lord of web
Checkout Alan Cooper...his books rule all and is much more practical for
design purposes in my humble opinion...
-Stace
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From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
All
Jillian Carroll writes:
You're missing the point.
It doesn't matter whether Jakon Neilsen is right or wrong... what
matters is that whenever he writes a sentence about what he thinks about
a site... millions of people read it.
Doesn't matter in the long run. Publicity is publicity. If
Two companies doing something incorrectly doesn't make it correct.
--
Jillian
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From: Benoit Hediard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 5, 2003 10:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
If it's a beta version, why is it public
to me, just paypal it :)
Charlie
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From: Benoit Hediard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 5, 2003 10:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
If it's a beta version, why is it public then?
Sometimes when you are trying
Christian Cantrell wrote:
I won't speak for other Macromedia employees, but for the record, do
not mistake any of my posts for damage control. Macromedia took a big
step forward with our new website, and although we certainly have
plenty of tweaks to make, we are fully confident in our
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