: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Women programmers
:) Much less we have female cf people here.
And for the times the guys have to sit through the sexist male jokes and
cracks then 1 female crack wont kill anyone.
Geez...
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
Macromedia
its coming, I think ;)
and that's coolthey tend to have a *GREAT* design eye
we have a development team of 6, 2 of which are
women, and are excellent at both UI (the design eye I was talkin
'bout) and programming.
..tony
Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
3 of the 8 people on my dev team are women (myself included)... and the
battle of the sexes is alive and well in our office! :-)
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From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Women programmers
I think I
I've been programming for years... and I now work in a company of 5 women
and 2 men (all programmers).
But you are right... this is incredibly unusual!
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From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Women
So will we see that trend in programming to?
I hope so. ;)
Ben Johnson
Information Architect
www.architekture.com
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I was the only woman at my previous job. And I actually liked it...lol.
I tend to get along well with guys, so it worked out. Here, I have to be
the alpha and the omega, so I do app development, database design and
implementation, UI design, project management - you get the idea.
I happen to
women are good.
:)
w
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From: Robyn Follen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 August 2002 16:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women programmers
3 of the 8 people on my dev team are women (myself included)... and the
battle of the sexes is alive and well in our office
I haven't seen to many women programmers yet. However we were
interviewing for an office applications specialist today and 90% were
women
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From: Robyn Follen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women programmers
I think I asked about this a year or two ago, but are more women getting
into hardcore programming, or at least, developing (hehe)?
{feminine} Yes!
web design was dominated by guys (no stats, just almost sure it was that
way), and now I'm bumpin into all these women designers.
Now you're
me wonder where the socially inept - awkward dorky guys are going
to hide... Heck it just might be the last frontier of men to be conquered...
-paris
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From: Ben Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women
:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women programmers
women are good.
:)
w
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From: Robyn Follen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 August 2002 16:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women programmers
3 of the 8 people on my dev team are women (myself included)... and the
battle
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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: Women programmers
So will we see that trend in programming to?
I hope so. ;)
Ben Johnson
Information Architect
www.architekture.com
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Amen goes there, sister!
Susan H. Allen
Pfinsten Publishing, L.L.C.
Cleveland, Ohio
I actually find it really annoying when I
walk in new to a team and get the assumption that I'm there to make the
application look pretty or design/develop the GUI.
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From: Phoeun Pha
I don't know any other developers who are women. Graphic artists and designers, sure,
but not programmers. There were some others in my classes, but few and far between.
Pink is an awful colour. :)
Helen Simpson
Webmaster
Silvert's Elderly Care Clothing
Phone: 1-800-387-7088
Email: [EMAIL
Time to start building cf_matchmaker. ;)
~Todd
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Paris Lundis wrote:
Yeah I wish I could find a cute web grrrl... that would rock... So I write
some code and you do some markup and then we switch...
It really is about time women got into more of the
grabs popcorn
finds a comfy chair and sits down
waits for flamefest to begin
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From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: Women programmers
I think I asked about this a year or two ago, but are
My 2 cents:
Women can be as good programmers as men! Any other claim is profiling...
My wife in fact had MCSD before moving to management and she still loves database
programming. I've worked with marvelous women programmers and a classmate of mine is
working on her Ph.D. in C.Sc. in network
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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: Women programmers
So will we see that trend in programming to?
I hope so. ;)
Ben Johnson
Information Architect
www.architekture.com
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I see alot less work getting done in those environments
Or more perhaps...trying to impress the ladies.
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From: Will Swain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: Women programmers
women are good.
:)
w
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From: Robyn Follen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 August
hey... well someone has to make the coffee
*runs and ducks* :)
Ben
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From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women programmers
not to mention, the eye candy
factor increase ;)
.tony
Tony Weeg
Don't forget cf_sexualharassmentlawsuit.
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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women programmers
Time to start building cf_matchmaker. ;)
~Todd
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Paris
On Thursday, August 29, 2002, at 09:15 , Kris Pilles wrote:
I haven't seen to many women programmers yet. However we were
interviewing for an office applications specialist today and 90% were
women
Macromedia has a pretty good mix of male/female in IT - not 50/50 but
certainly a significant
.
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From: Mitko Gerensky-Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Women programmers
My 2 cents:
Women can be as good programmers as men! Any other claim is profiling...
My wife in fact had MCSD before moving to management
To tell ya the truth... I look forward to that perspective and I tap into it wherever
I can find it... because my apps are just damned U G L Y without it.
I love the sisters!
At 10:04 AM 8/29/02, you wrote:
Amen goes there, sister!
Susan H. Allen
Pfinsten Publishing, L.L.C.
Cleveland, Ohio
I
Amen goes there, sister!
Susan H. Allen
Pfinsten Publishing, L.L.C.
Cleveland, Ohio
I actually find it really annoying when I
walk in new to a team and get the assumption that I'm there to make the
application look pretty or design/develop the GUI.
Besides, that's my job! :) Actually I've
I like women.
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From: Brian Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I second
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From: Will Swain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
women are good.
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Time to start building cf_matchmaker. ;)
~Todd
too late... 2Simplifi Web Personals ... I think that was the name he gave
it... type 2simplifi into the search on devex ... he's got banner adds on
cfxtras...
Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046
Subject: RE: Women programmers
C'mon guys, lay off the cutesy sexist stuff, okay? Geez...
Susan Hamilton Allen
Web Programmer
Pfingsten Publishing, L.L.C.
Seven Hills, OH 44131
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From: Susan Hamilton-Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Women programmers
C'mon guys, lay off the cutesy sexist stuff, okay? Geez...
Susan Hamilton Allen
Web Programmer
Pfingsten
I love a few valuable OT threads as much as anyone else, but I think
the nontechnical discussion is beginning to overwhelm the actual
coding discussion. Some stats for everyone's perusal.
Out of the 100 posts 33 have had a very little factual discussion,
mainly from the Developer Vs Programmer
Great, now I feel nice and suitably objectified. My day just isn't complete
until *that* has happened. I was beginning to worry...
Now I'm sure you'll escuse me while I go and get dressed in pink while I
make something look pretty.
-Patti X
not to mention, the eye candy
factor increase ;)
uncalled for.
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From: Ben Arledge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women programmers
hey... well someone has to make the coffee
*runs and ducks* :)
Ben
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From: Tony Weeg [mailto
Mitko said:
Women can be as good programmers as men! Any other claim is profiling...
Umm...I don't think anybody has said otherwise...they were just wondering
what the stats where and that it would be a good idea ;-)
I just hope that the typical woman programmer will not have the same kind of
, August 29, 2002 12:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Women programmers
My 2 cents:
Women can be as good programmers as men! Any other claim is profiling...
My wife in fact had MCSD before moving to management and she still loves
database programming. I've worked with marvelous women
*makes Ben's coffee and spits in it*
*then sweetly smiles and hands it to him*
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From: Ben Arledge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:38 PM
Subject: RE: Women programmers
hey... well someone has to make the coffee
: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: RE: Women programmers
To tell ya the truth... I look forward to that perspective and I tap into
it wherever I can find it... because my apps are just damned U G L Y without
it.
I love the sisters!
At 10:04 AM 8/29/02, you wrote:
Amen goes
a tasteful sense of humour. :)
Cheers,
Ben
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From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women programmers
Amen goes there, sister!
Susan H. Allen
Pfinsten Publishing, L.L.C.
Cleveland, Ohio
I
I think he meant matchmaking for CF developers
Not just a personals prog written in CF
~~
Stephenie Hamilton
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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Women programmers
it was a joke deal :)
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
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From: Susan Hamilton-Allen
1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Women programmers
C'mon guys, lay off the cutesy sexist stuff, okay? Geez...
Susan Hamilton Allen
Web Programmer
Pfingsten Publishing, L.L.C.
Seven Hills, OH 44131
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If you can't take the heat, get back in the kitchen.
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Tangorre, Michael wrote:
uncalled for.
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From: Ben Arledge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women programmers
hey... well
I agree... and I apologize for contributing to the noise in my earlier post.
The list is dumbing down via this off topic chatter... Really should be chatting in
the cf-community lists.
Pity the poor chap who is getting lost in the noise just trying to get a little help.
At 11:22 AM 8/29/02,
I agree... and I apologize for contributing to the noise with my earlier post.
This list gets dumbed down with all the chatter... best left for cf-talk.
Pity the poor soul who's question is lost in the chatter.
At 11:22 AM 8/29/02, you wrote:
I love a few valuable OT threads as much as anyone
:) Much less we have female cf people here.
And for the times the guys have to sit through the
sexist male jokes and cracks then 1 female crack
wont kill anyone. Geez...
The difference is that most of the guys I know don't really care if they're
objectified or if people make sexist jokes
, 2002 1:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: [OT] Re: Women programmers (OT Threads)
I love a few valuable OT threads as much as anyone else, but I think
the nontechnical discussion is beginning to overwhelm the actual
coding discussion. Some stats for everyone's perusal.
Out of the 100 posts 33 have had
Besides, that's my job! :) Actually I've been told that I'm better at it
than most heavy-lifting developers...
If that comes right before you have great eyes I'd watch out g
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Wow, so ... I can find a woman that knows CFMX and date her too? Amazing.
~Todd
At 02:11 PM 8/29/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Time to start building cf_matchmaker. ;)
~Todd
too late... 2Simplifi Web Personals ... I think that was the name he gave
it... type 2simplifi into the search on devex
be fooled by the name :-)
-Original Message-
From: Ben Arledge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Women programmers
hey... well someone has to make the coffee
*runs and ducks* :)
Ben
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From: Tony Weeg
-Original Message-
From: Patti G. L. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Women programmers
Great, now I feel nice and suitably objectified. My day just isn't complete
until *that* has happened. I was beginning to worry...
Now I'm
-- woman
programmer/developer/designer/architect/marketer/writer/peace-keaper/tea
-maker/rum-drinker/halo-playing/skiing small business owner.
;)
I think it's coming around, but often I find myself the only woman in a
room full of males yacking about code and whatnot (which is not all that
bad
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Founder Director
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From: Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Women programmers
*makes
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Stacy Young wrote:
P.S. I'm a guy damn it! Don't be fooled by the name :-)
Riight. ;) Just kidding Stace. ;)
~Todd
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From: Candace Cottrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Women programmers
Better watch it fellas, or we might paint your office pink, or better
yet, mauve...
rofl
Candace K. Cottrell, Web
Subject: Re: Women programmers
man our mail server is being slow lately i posted that hours ago lol
Bill Wheatley
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