Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-24 Thread Aaron Newcomb
The biggest barrier for me was the IO. I had to stripe across
4x7200rpm drives to keep up with the 1080p content. I have since sold
my card, but it was fun to play with.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Rafael Diniz raf...@riseup.net wrote:
 People,
 I have a BM Intensity Pro at work (that does HD capture thru the HDMI
 port), and as soon as I can get my hands on the Linux SDK, I'll see what
 format the software that comes w/ the SDK can output to me.

 BTW, a nice move would be make ffmpeg or gstreamer support the card
 directly, using the sdk api, so than I would be able to output directly in
 dnxhd, if the machine could encode the video in realtime...

 bye,
 rafael diniz




 - Original Message -
 From: Kurt Georg Hooss ho...@kurts-film.de
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:08:41 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos


 erm... just for the dumb and stupid like me,
 in short, what is this about? video hardware? what does it do?
 thanks, georg

 Georg,

 Here's a review of the card:

 http://www.videomaker.com/article/13256/



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Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-23 Thread sfrase6%40comcast.net



- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Georg Hooss ho...@kurts-film.de 
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no 
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:08:41 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos 


erm... just for the dumb and stupid like me, 
in short, what is this about? video hardware? what does it do? 
thanks, georg 

Georg, 

Here's a review of the card: 

http://www.videomaker.com/article/13256/ 



scott 

Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-23 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss

ah! thanks. that was enlightening.
:-)
georg


On Thursday 23 April 2009 15:42:01 sfrase6%40comcast.net wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Kurt Georg Hooss ho...@kurts-film.de
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:08:41 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos


 erm... just for the dumb and stupid like me,
 in short, what is this about? video hardware? what does it do?
 thanks, georg

 Georg,

 Here's a review of the card:

 http://www.videomaker.com/article/13256/



 scott



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Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-23 Thread Rafael Diniz
People,
I have a BM Intensity Pro at work (that does HD capture thru the HDMI
port), and as soon as I can get my hands on the Linux SDK, I'll see what
format the software that comes w/ the SDK can output to me.

BTW, a nice move would be make ffmpeg or gstreamer support the card
directly, using the sdk api, so than I would be able to output directly in
dnxhd, if the machine could encode the video in realtime...

bye,
rafael diniz




 - Original Message -
 From: Kurt Georg Hooss ho...@kurts-film.de
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:08:41 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos


 erm... just for the dumb and stupid like me,
 in short, what is this about? video hardware? what does it do?
 thanks, georg

 Georg,

 Here's a review of the card:

 http://www.videomaker.com/article/13256/



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Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-21 Thread Herman Robak
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:55:35 +0200, Aaron Newcomb anewco...@gmail.com wrote:

 I talked with Blackmagic about Linux support for the Intensity card
 when it first came out. They said that if there was enough interest
 they would do it. I guess that they were sick of us bugging them :)

 Also, I worked with one of the FFMPEG developers to get the format of
 the Intensity card output supported. So it should already be in there.
 You get really nice looking video with it.

I should think so.  And you avoid the latency and heavy CPU load 
of decoding temporally compressed HD video, which is _vital_ for 
live mixing.

(pardon me for going off-topic here...)
I was thinking of hdvswitch as the natural HDTV upgrade of 
dvswitch, a software DV mixer for live recording/streaming, 
as HD-SDI equipment is too expensive.  But HDMI is not.
You can even get affordable HDMI-over-CAT6 relay boxes. 

Of course, those shoestring hacks will likely get the 
original poster to cringe. ;-)

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Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-21 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss

erm... just for the dumb and stupid like me,
in short, what is this about? video hardware? what does it do?
thanks, georg



On Monday 20 April 2009 20:33:27 marquitux caballero wrote:
 This is the e-mail we´all resellers get from Blackmagic Design, I hope the
 comunity can see this as an oportunity (Matrox SDK for linux release had
 been ignored by the comunity before) to get real professional tools to work
 in production environments. cheers,Marcos Caballero
 http://www.anubis4d.com.ar  Hi, It's NAB time again, and I have a quick
 update with all our latest news! We have had great fun working hard all
 year turning ideas into new products! This year we have a new DeckLink
 card, new converters, new routers, new monitoring, a waveform monitor,
 Linux support and a whole bunch of new software updates!  It's quite a lot,
 and I will describe everything below! Introducing Blackmagic UltraScope For
 years I have wanted good waveform monitoring for color correction and
 editing workstations, however most of the products available were either
 way too expensive or not technically accurate and often quite an ugly
 design! We really wanted to change that because we want to add waveform
 monitoring into studios where clients attend and we think waveform
 monitoring should look nice and be technically accurate. Blackmagic
 UltraScope is designed for color correction, editing and quality control
 use, and it looks great in your studio because it features elegant design,
 combined with technical accuracy. It includes 6 waveform views so it's just
 like having 6 scopes all in one. Blackmagic UltraScope is a PC based SDI
 scope that features a plug in PCI card and software. It plugs into any low
 cost PCI Express based PC, and uses a 24 inch monitor to draw the 6 scope
 views. These views are RGB/YUV parade, waveform, vector, histogram, audio
 meters, audio stereo scope, and picture view with VITC timecode reader.
 There are enough scopes included to make color correction, video shoots and
 quality control checking easy and, because it's SDI based, it's digitally
 accurate. Blackmagic UltraScope is designed to be technically accurate, so
 engineers will love to use it too! 
 http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/ultrascope/ UltraScope will be
 available in June for $695. Introducing Studio Videohub Last year we
 introduced Broadcast Videohub and it was really well received. It
 introduced 3 Gb/s SDI into the Videohub family, plus a great industrial
 strength power supply. We thought it was time to update the baby router
 with the same 3 Gb/s SDI technology.  Studio Videohub replaces the older
 Workgroup Videohub, however it's smaller at only 2 rack units high and has
 more connections at 16 x 32. It's a bit like a mini Broadcast Videohub, as
 it uses the same technology, re-clocking, power supply, deck control ports
 and the same 3 Gb/s SDI. It's perfect for small studios and small
 workgroups.  http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/videohub/ Studio
 Videohub is available now for $4,995. Introducing Enterprise Videohub Last
 year when we introduced the Broadcast Videohub, a bunch of people asked if
 we could do a version of it that was larger than it's 72 x 144 size. This
 was a bit surprising as we thought at the time that Broadcast Videohub was
 massive!  At that time, Broadcast Videohub was the largest size our
 production machines could handle. However we thought hard about the
 problem, and then decided that it would be fun to make a larger Videohub,
 so we rebuilt our factory, and went for it! The result is the new
 Enterprise Videohub, which is a massive 144 x 288. It's got the same single
 PCB design that avoids the need for unreliable plug in cards and internal
 connectors, plus it's got the same redundant power supplies, 3 Gb/s SDI and
 full SDI re-clocking. It's the same thin design as Broadcast Videohub, and
 is 16 rack units in size. We think Enterprise Videohub is big enough for
 the largest facility with huge amounts of SDI equipment that all needs to
 be shared between people!
 http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/videohub/ Enterprise Videohub
 will be available in June for $29,995. Videohub 4.0 Software I think the
 only real limitation our Videohub routers have previously suffered is the
 software and we have been working hard to fix that. We originally used
 network based software control for Videohub because it's so easy to use the
 network you already have installed in your building. This lets you change
 router connections from your desktop. Now we have an exciting update to
 Videohub 4.0 that includes three new button view control windows. These
 widows are designed with large customizable buttons, and all you need to do
 is push the button to change a router connection. Two of these button
 windows are designed to run full screen on 20 and 24 inch monitors, so you
 can use new touch screen computers, such as the HP Touchsmart, as a large
 color touch screen control panel. These 

Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-21 Thread Herman Robak
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:38:26 +0200, Daniel Jircik djir...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is huge. I tried to cajole the Linux Driver Project (
 http://linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view ) into taking that under their
 wing last year and BlackMagic said they had no plans to support Linux and
 were according to those that made inquiries a bit hostile.  I wonder what
 changed their minds.

 When they write free download, that should make us pause.
User-space programs may be free download on Linux, usually 
with 2, 3 to a dozen different packages. 

But kernel modules are not like that.  So what do they mean? 
Will there be a tarball that can be compiled and linked to 
your own kernel?  On x86-64, too? 

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Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-21 Thread E Chalaron


Kurt Georg Hooss wrote:
 erm... just for the dumb and stupid like me,
   
You are not alone Kurt.
Is anyone sampling analog video in 444 here ?  apart from film scanning
? in which case a firewire or GigE camera IIDC works fine.
Cheers
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[CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-20 Thread marquitux caballero

This is the e-mail we´all resellers get from Blackmagic Design, I hope the 
comunity can see this as an oportunity (Matrox SDK for linux release had been 
ignored by the comunity before) to get real professional tools to work in 
production environments. 
cheers,Marcos Caballero 
http://www.anubis4d.com.ar  Hi, It's NAB time again, and I have a quick update 
with all our latest news! We have had great fun working hard all year turning 
ideas into new products! This year we have a new DeckLink card, new converters, 
new routers, new monitoring, a waveform monitor, Linux support and a whole 
bunch of new software updates!  It's quite a lot, and I will describe 
everything below! Introducing Blackmagic UltraScope For years I have wanted 
good waveform monitoring for color correction and editing workstations, however 
most of the products available were either way too expensive or not technically 
accurate and often quite an ugly design! We really wanted to change that 
because we want to add waveform monitoring into studios where clients attend 
and we think waveform monitoring should look nice and be technically accurate. 
Blackmagic UltraScope is designed for color correction, editing and quality 
control use, and it looks great in your studio because it features elegant 
design, combined with technical accuracy. It includes 6 waveform views so it's 
just like having 6 scopes all in one. Blackmagic UltraScope is a PC based SDI 
scope that features a plug in PCI card and software. It plugs into any low cost 
PCI Express based PC, and uses a 24 inch monitor to draw the 6 scope views. 
These views are RGB/YUV parade, waveform, vector, histogram, audio meters, 
audio stereo scope, and picture view with VITC timecode reader. There are 
enough scopes included to make color correction, video shoots and quality 
control checking easy and, because it's SDI based, it's digitally accurate. 
Blackmagic UltraScope is designed to be technically accurate, so engineers will 
love to use it too!  http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/ultrascope/ 
UltraScope will be available in June for $695. Introducing Studio Videohub Last 
year we introduced Broadcast Videohub and it was really well received. It 
introduced 3 Gb/s SDI into the Videohub family, plus a great industrial 
strength power supply. We thought it was time to update the baby router with 
the same 3 Gb/s SDI technology.  Studio Videohub replaces the older Workgroup 
Videohub, however it's smaller at only 2 rack units high and has more 
connections at 16 x 32. It's a bit like a mini Broadcast Videohub, as it uses 
the same technology, re-clocking, power supply, deck control ports and the same 
3 Gb/s SDI. It's perfect for small studios and small workgroups.  
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/videohub/ Studio Videohub is 
available now for $4,995. Introducing Enterprise Videohub Last year when we 
introduced the Broadcast Videohub, a bunch of people asked if we could do a 
version of it that was larger than it's 72 x 144 size. This was a bit 
surprising as we thought at the time that Broadcast Videohub was massive!  At 
that time, Broadcast Videohub was the largest size our production machines 
could handle. However we thought hard about the problem, and then decided that 
it would be fun to make a larger Videohub, so we rebuilt our factory, and went 
for it! The result is the new Enterprise Videohub, which is a massive 144 x 
288. It's got the same single PCB design that avoids the need for unreliable 
plug in cards and internal connectors, plus it's got the same redundant power 
supplies, 3 Gb/s SDI and full SDI re-clocking. It's the same thin design as 
Broadcast Videohub, and is 16 rack units in size. We think Enterprise Videohub 
is big enough for the largest facility with huge amounts of SDI equipment that 
all needs to be shared between people! 
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/videohub/ Enterprise Videohub will be 
available in June for $29,995. Videohub 4.0 Software I think the only real 
limitation our Videohub routers have previously suffered is the software and we 
have been working hard to fix that. We originally used network based software 
control for Videohub because it's so easy to use the network you already have 
installed in your building. This lets you change router connections from your 
desktop. Now we have an exciting update to Videohub 4.0 that includes three new 
button view control windows. These widows are designed with large customizable 
buttons, and all you need to do is push the button to change a router 
connection. Two of these button windows are designed to run full screen on 20 
and 24 inch monitors, so you can use new touch screen computers, such as the HP 
Touchsmart, as a large color touch screen control panel. These computers are 
much lower cost than a multi-function control panel, and with Videohub 4.0's 
button view, they make the world's greatest router control panel! We have a 
great interactive 

Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-20 Thread Herman Robak
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:33:27 +0200, marquitux caballero anubi...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


 This is the e-mail we´all resellers get from Blackmagic Design, I hope the 
 comunity can see this as an oportunity (Matrox SDK for linux release had been 
 ignored by the comunity before) to get real professional tools to work in 
 production environments.
 cheers,Marcos Caballero
 http://www.anubis4d.com.ar  Hi, It's NAB time again, and I have a quick 
 update with all our latest news! 

...s-n-i-p-!...

A little shorter about the news we might be interested in:
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/press/detail.asp?pressID=162

Blackmagic promises Linux drivers for some of their products, 
in June.  The most interesting, IMO, is the HDMI capture card. 
Not too pricey, and relevant to _many_ consumer grade HiDef 
video cameras.

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Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-20 Thread Aaron Newcomb
I talked with Blackmagic about Linux support for the Intensity card
when it first came out. They said that if there was enough interest
they would do it. I guess that they were sick of us bugging them :)

Also, I worked with one of the FFMPEG developers to get the format of
the Intensity card output supported. So it should already be in there.
You get really nice looking video with it.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Herman Robak her...@skolelinux.no wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:33:27 +0200, marquitux caballero 
 anubi...@hotmail.com wrote:


 This is the e-mail we´all resellers get from Blackmagic Design, I hope the 
 comunity can see this as an oportunity (Matrox SDK for linux release had 
 been ignored by the comunity before) to get real professional tools to work 
 in production environments.
 cheers,Marcos Caballero
 http://www.anubis4d.com.ar  Hi, It's NAB time again, and I have a quick 
 update with all our latest news!

 ...s-n-i-p-!...

 A little shorter about the news we might be interested in:
 http://www.blackmagic-design.com/press/detail.asp?pressID=162

 Blackmagic promises Linux drivers for some of their products,
 in June.  The most interesting, IMO, is the HDMI capture card.
 Not too pricey, and relevant to _many_ consumer grade HiDef
 video cameras.

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Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

2009-04-20 Thread Daniel Jircik
This is huge. I tried to cajole the Linux Driver Project (
http://linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view ) into taking that under their
wing last year and BlackMagic said they had no plans to support Linux and
were according to those that made inquiries a bit hostile.  I wonder what
changed their minds.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Aaron Newcomb anewco...@gmail.com wrote:

 I talked with Blackmagic about Linux support for the Intensity card
 when it first came out. They said that if there was enough interest
 they would do it. I guess that they were sick of us bugging them :)

 Also, I worked with one of the FFMPEG developers to get the format of
 the Intensity card output supported. So it should already be in there.
 You get really nice looking video with it.

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Herman Robak her...@skolelinux.no
 wrote:
  On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:33:27 +0200, marquitux caballero 
 anubi...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 
  This is the e-mail we´all resellers get from Blackmagic Design, I hope
 the comunity can see this as an oportunity (Matrox SDK for linux release had
 been ignored by the comunity before) to get real professional tools to work
 in production environments.
  cheers,Marcos Caballero
  http://www.anubis4d.com.ar  Hi, It's NAB time again, and I have a quick
 update with all our latest news!
 
  ...s-n-i-p-!...
 
  A little shorter about the news we might be interested in:
  http://www.blackmagic-design.com/press/detail.asp?pressID=162
 
  Blackmagic promises Linux drivers for some of their products,
  in June.  The most interesting, IMO, is the HDMI capture card.
  Not too pricey, and relevant to _many_ consumer grade HiDef
  video cameras.
 
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