Re: Why do map/get and similar return nil if not found?

2016-01-12 Thread Dennis Haupt
i agree with the fast fail camp if a value is nil but is not supposed to be, i want the program to immediately tell me about that instead of telling me later and force me to trace it back. in scala, this is solved by providing 2 methods. one that gives you a result or crashes, one that maybe

Re: DSL in RTL (Right to Left) languages.

2015-01-14 Thread Dennis Haupt
i encountered a german progamming language once. it was terrible. everybody should stick to english when it comes ot programming - you have to do it anyway, and there is no reason not to go ahead and learn a language since that is what brains are built for 2015-01-14 17:11 GMT+01:00 Jesse Alama

Re: Considering dropping Eclipse 3.x support for counterclockwise

2014-12-04 Thread Dennis Haupt
yuno 2014-12-04 11:45 GMT+01:00 Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com: The following Eclipse names are 3.x based : Indigo, Helios, Galileo The following are 4.x based : Juno, Kepler, Luna 2014-12-04 11:17 GMT+01:00 Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com: Hello, Eclipse 4.x has been

Re: shenandoah

2014-03-13 Thread Dennis Haupt
i also did an asteroid game in clojure. i don't think you can ever achieve the performance of hackedyhack-mutablility with pure functional algorithms - my approach to get the best performance while staying as clean as possible would be to keep two copies of the game world, using one as source data

Re: Do I have to have knowlegde about Lisp

2014-03-10 Thread Dennis Haupt
you can learn clojure without learning lisp first :) 2014-03-10 15:41 GMT+01:00 Roelof Wobben rwob...@hotmail.com: Hello, I like the idea of Clojure but I wonder if I have to know a lot of Lisp to work with Clojure. What is the best way to go from a absolute beginner to someone who can

Re: JRE/JVM for development

2014-01-29 Thread Dennis Haupt
my vm starts up within a second or so, what's the problem for you? 2014-01-29 ton...@gmail.com Are there any Java VMs strictly for development use that could be started up quicker, use less memory or compile clojure during execution? Alternatively can OpenJDK or similar be configured to do

Re: equality

2014-01-27 Thread Dennis Haupt
one does not simply compare floating point numbers for equality 2014-01-27 Eric Le Goff eleg...@gmail.com Newbie question : user= (= 42 42) true user= (= 42 42.0) false I did not expect last result. I understand that underlying classes are not the same i.e user= (class 42)

Re: Read Microsoft Word .doc files in Clojure

2014-01-02 Thread Dennis Haupt
use apache poi and write a small wrapper or something this is what i did 2014/1/2 Joshua Mendoza joshua.m...@gmail.com Hi!, I've been looking for libraries or resources to read MS .doc files in Clojure, but found none. Does anyone have tried, used, encountered or witnessed such a thing to

some clojure experience

2013-12-31 Thread Dennis Haupt
i solved a few little thingy with clojure now, including some euler problems, java interop and an asteroids clone. my summary would be: * very nice to write +1. i used clojure's collections for a lot of things, and they made a good impression * you need to plan far ahead compared to java. in

Re: Is Clojure right for me?

2013-12-26 Thread Dennis Haupt
exactly which part of OOP is missing in clojure that you would like to use? if you took my java code and ported it to clojure, the main difference would be (a b) instead of b.a , but the main design would be similar 2013/12/26 Massimiliano Tomassoli kiuhn...@gmail.com On Thursday, December 26,

Re: How to go about 'proving' why dynamically typed languages are better.

2013-12-20 Thread Dennis Haupt
in my mental world, there is a pure human, and a 4 armed human would probably be a 95% human or something, just like a hobbit would be. the other way round, a human would be a 95% hobbit. an elephant would be 4% hobbit on that scale. this model is flexible, covers everything, and is not really

Re: How to go about 'proving' why dynamically typed languages are better.

2013-10-09 Thread Dennis Haupt
let's see... really used: sql java javascript basic pascal/delphi scala experimented with: logo (some old language intended to teach people to make their first steps) haskell kotlin clojure seen in action: php groovy still prefer smart static typing :D 2013/10/9 Nando Breiter

Re: How to go about 'proving' why dynamically typed languages are better.

2013-10-09 Thread Dennis Haupt
especially haskell scala are missing in your list :) as long as you haven't at least seen haskell, you haven't seen the creme de la creme of statically typed languages 2013/10/9 Softaddicts lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca Let's see: strong data typing: Fortran Cobol Pl/1 Pascal C/C++

Re: How to go about 'proving' why dynamically typed languages are better.

2013-10-08 Thread Dennis Haupt
while i can see the strengths of both sides, the ideal solution is imho this: everything is statically typed. always. but you *never* have to write the type explicitly. you *can* do it, but it is always optional. i made good experiences with both scala and haskell (although i just wrote minor

Re: too circular?

2013-08-29 Thread Dennis Haupt
thx again 2013/8/30 Bruno Kim Medeiros Cesar brunokim...@gmail.com This exact use case is covered by letfn, which creates a named fn accessible to all function definitions and the body. That even allows mutual recursive definitions without declare. Your example would be (defn fib-n [n]

Re: too circular?

2013-08-27 Thread Dennis Haupt
thx 2013/8/26 Marshall Bockrath-Vandegrift llas...@gmail.com Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com writes: (defn fib-n [n] (let [fib (fn [a b] (cons a (lazy-seq (fib b (+ b a)] (take n (fib 1 1 can't i do a recursion here? how can i achieve this without doing an outer defn

Re: profiler?

2013-08-27 Thread Dennis Haupt
yep, yourkit 2013/8/27 Jay Fields j...@jayfields.com What are you all using these days? I've been using YourKit and I'm fairly happy with it. Just making sure I'm not missing out on some new hotness. Cheers, Jay -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

too circular?

2013-08-26 Thread Dennis Haupt
(defn fib-n [n] (let [fib (fn [a b] (cons a (lazy-seq (fib b (+ b a)] (take n (fib 1 1 can't i do a recursion here? how can i achieve this without doing an outer defn? -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this

multimethods for non constant values?

2013-06-23 Thread Dennis Haupt
i found example that i can do (defmethod x 5 [y] (do stuff)) but can i do (defmethod #( % 10) [y] (do stuff)) somehow? like in a pattern match of haskell/scala? -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: multimethods for non constant values?

2013-06-23 Thread Dennis Haupt
)) ;; dispatch on the dispatch values (defmethod x :less-then-10 [x] (do )) Hope it helps Las 2013/6/23 Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com i found example that i can do (defmethod x 5 [y] (do stuff)) but can i do (defmethod #( % 10) [y] (do stuff)) somehow? like in a pattern match

Re: can't compile anything except def

2013-06-23 Thread Dennis Haupt
problems with it. On 23 June 2013 02:29, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com mailto:d.haup...@gmail.com wrote: it happens with both clojure 1.5.1 and 1.4.0. when intellij tries to compile clojure files, something strange happens. if i remove the option to compile the files

multimethod noob question

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
hi, i was taking a look at multimethods: (defmulti fac int) (defmethod fac 1 [_] 1) (defmethod fac :default [n] (*' n (fac (dec n this works however, this also works: (defmulti fac print) (defmethod fac 1 [_] 1) (defmethod fac :default [n] (*' n (fac (dec n what exactly is int or

can't compile anything except def

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
hi, i'm trying to compiler a clojure file using intellij. the error i get is: Clojure Compiler: java.io.IOException: The system cannot find the path specified, compiling:(D:\cloj\MultiMethod.clj:3) where the line number is pointing at a line that contains something that is declared in core.clr

Re: can't compile anything except def

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
i don't know what properly set up the environment means exactly, but i can run my script in the repl 2013/6/22 Jim - FooBar(); jimpil1...@gmail.com On 22/06/13 15:09, Dennis Haupt wrote: where the line number is pointing at a line that contains something that is declared in core.clr

Re: multimethod noob question

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
user= (fac 1) 10-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-until stackoverflow 2013/6/22 Chris Bilson cbil...@pobox.com Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com writes: i was taking a look at multimethods: (defmulti fac int) (defmethod fac 1 [_] 1) (defmethod

Re: can't compile anything except def

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
clojure jvm, intellij's repl. i'll try to run the file via commandline and see what happens 2013/6/22 Jim - FooBar(); jimpil1...@gmail.com On 22/06/13 15:16, Dennis Haupt wrote: i don't know what properly set up the environment means exactly, but i can run my script in the repl what repl

Re: can't compile anything except def

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
running the file works (from inside intellij), just intellijs compilation seems to be broken i can ignore the problem for now 2013/6/22 Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com clojure jvm, intellij's repl. i'll try to run the file via commandline and see what happens 2013/6/22 Jim

Re: can't compile anything except def

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
15:21, Dennis Haupt wrote: clojure jvm, intellij's repl. i'll try to run the file via commandline and see what happens where did core.clr come from then? can you somehow see what version of clojure your intelliJ is using? I've got no experience with intelliJ really...it's just that your

Re: multimethod noob question

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
yes. all glory to the repl that makes me figure out the internals via experiments :D is there a way to just pass the given value along? 2013/6/22 Chris Bilson cbil...@pobox.com Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com writes: i am not trying anything, i just want to figure out what happens

Re: multimethod noob question

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
and stuff2 is the complete set of original arguments? can you provide an example where stuff2 has more information than stuff? for fac, both are equal thx :D 2013/6/22 Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com yes. all glory to the repl that makes me figure out the internals via experiments :D

Re: multimethod noob question

2013-06-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
identity :) 2013/6/22 Chris Bilson cbil...@pobox.com Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com writes: yes. all glory to the repl that makes me figure out the internals via experiments :D is there a way to just pass the given value along? Yes, that's what I meant by my inspect method in my

Re: clojure diffs

2013-06-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
intellij can do exactly what you want 2013/6/7 Moocar anthony.mar...@gmail.com Hi all, Diffs for clojure code (and lisps in general) can be hard to read. Every time we wrap a form, any lines below are indented. The resulting diff just shows that you've deleted lines and added lines, even

Re: Why is this code so slow?

2013-02-03 Thread Dennis Haupt
without looking at the code: ranges in scala have been optimized in i think 2.10 to be able to be inlineable completely when you iterate over them. at runtime, it *should* be equal to a simple while loop and a counter variable Am 03.02.2013 14:28, schrieb Jules: The Scala version is probably

Re: is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-01-29 Thread Dennis Haupt
i don't know emacs, so i would like to know as well what the killer features are that make you more productive with emacs 2013/1/29 Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com Hello Jay, I'd like to learn a little bit more from what makes you prefer emacs over IntelliJ. As the main developer of

Re: is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-01-29 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 29.01.2013 23:05, schrieb Phil Hagelberg: Jay Fields writes: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jay, I'd like to learn a little bit more from what makes you prefer emacs over IntelliJ. As the main developer of Counterclockwise, I'm

is intellij idea a good ide for clojure development?

2013-01-28 Thread Dennis Haupt
the only ides i have used so far for clojure are intellij idea and netbeans. is there one that is a lot better? if yes, why? i am not interested in details or single features, i just want to know if there is some magic editor out there that i should look into because it is *obviously a lot* better

Re: why is nth called here?

2012-12-12 Thread Dennis Haupt
if anyone is interested, i used reduces instead of reductions. 2012/12/11 Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com i just saw my error :/ Am 11.12.2012 22:22, schrieb Ben Wolfson: nth is called in doing the destructuring for the argument lists in your fns defined in try-find-sequence

max doesn't return max?

2012-12-12 Thread Dennis Haupt
maybe i am blind, but why does max return the complete lazy seq here instead of the maximum number? if i just print as-products, i get a list of numbers. (count solution) tells me there are 1000+ and yet max gives me the complete list? (ns euler.Problem8) (def digits

why is nth called here?

2012-12-11 Thread Dennis Haupt
i am trying to solve euler problem 125. when i tested this code: (ns euler.Problem125) (defn is-palindrome [n] (let [s (str n)] (= (seq s) (reverse s (defn to-check [] (filter is-palindrome (range 1 1000))) (defn square-root [n] (Math/sqrt n)) (defn squared [n] (* n n)) (defn

Re: why is nth called here?

2012-12-11 Thread Dennis Haupt
i just saw my error :/ Am 11.12.2012 22:22, schrieb Ben Wolfson: nth is called in doing the destructuring for the argument lists in your fns defined in try-find-sequence. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com wrote: i am trying to solve euler problem 125

Re: help choosing dev environment for clojure

2012-11-25 Thread Dennis Haupt
can you give a few examples that should convince a lot of people on the spot? Am 25.11.2012 17:57, schrieb Jay Fields: I spent 3 years doing Clojure (for prod apps) in IntelliJ. 3 months ago I switched to emacs - and would never go back. If the idea of customizing your dev environment to

Re: Efficiency of Dijkstra's algorithm

2012-11-21 Thread Dennis Haupt
i used a java priorityqueue for this. it's mutable (but local), and since you're not going to access he queue with more than in thread you can hide this fact and still pretend to be functional. i did it. in reality, cheats are always allowed. 2012/11/21 Sergey Didenko sergey.dide...@gmail.com

Re: Clojure to Haskell Compiler

2012-11-17 Thread Dennis Haupt
why not just use haskell instead? i doubt you can just convert the code Am 17.11.2012 19:31, schrieb Ahmed Shafeeq Bin Mohd Shariff: Hi guys, I've been frustrated with Clojure's slow speed on the JVM. I've been thinking of how it can be compiled to native and I feel that compiling

Re: Clojure : a good start for non-programmers?

2012-09-25 Thread Dennis Haupt
basically anything except brainfuck is a good idea :) Am 26.09.2012 06:45, schrieb Leonardo Borges: Hi Gregorius! I think Clojure is a great way to start to learn to program! Clojure is a flavour of lisp and so is Scheme - which has been used for decades to teach programming to MIT

Re: language shootout / the phonecode study

2012-09-23 Thread Dennis Haupt
i did not need the hint to develop a correct solution. the hint just clarifies what could have been misunderstood. Am 23.09.2012 21:03, schrieb Mark Engelberg: I agree that Odersky's version doesn't match the spec. Hint or no hint, it doesn't look like he even attempts to address the issue of

Re: language shootout / the phonecode study

2012-09-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
here's my solution: https://gist.github.com/3766508 the original (done in 2 hours) solution is commented out. i made some improvements and solved the whole thing in 39 lines (counting only the content of main). doing it in the minimal amount of lines was not my goal. i was trying to minimize the

Re: language shootout / the phonecode study

2012-09-22 Thread Dennis Haupt
, schrieb David Nolen: On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@gmail.com mailto:d.haup...@gmail.com wrote: here's my solution: https://gist.github.com/3766508 the original (done in 2 hours) solution is commented out. i made some improvements and solved

language shootout / the phonecode study

2012-09-20 Thread Dennis Haupt
i stumbled upon this: http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/prechelt/phonecode/ the results: http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/prechelt/Biblio/jccpprt_computer2000.pdf summary: concise languages bashed c, c++ and java if you look at the time needed to complete the program. however, in 1999, there were no good

Re: language shootout / the phonecode study

2012-09-20 Thread Dennis Haupt
, fixing and so on) i'll have to think about that 2012/9/20 David Nolen dnolen.li...@gmail.com On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.comwrote: i stumbled upon this: http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/prechelt/phonecode/ the results: http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/prechelt

Re: language shootout / the phonecode study

2012-09-20 Thread Dennis Haupt
PM UTC+2, David Nolen wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Dennis Haupt d.ha...@googlemail.com javascript: wrote: i stumbled upon this: http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/prechelt/phonecode/ http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/prechelt/phonecode/ the results

Re: language shootout / the phonecode study

2012-09-20 Thread Dennis Haupt
i came to a correct solution without that hint :) just like in reality, i started coding without reading the spec. a few surprises came along the way (what? they want it like this? they just added this to mock me!) i spent about 50% of the time writing code and 50% thinking about it. i'll tell my

Re: 'functional' performance VS 'imperative' complexity

2012-08-25 Thread Dennis Haupt
+1 i stay functional if possible and fall back to mutable on isolated, performance critical spots if i can't get it done fast enough in a purely functional way. i solved the move-mess-up-everything problem by forcing a move to implement both apply and unapply on a game board. (it was a java

Re: real-world usage of reducers?

2012-08-21 Thread Dennis Haupt
i assume you are coming from a java background? if so, every time you wrote this: Result result = null; for (Stuff s:stuffList) { if (result ==null) result = ... result.cuddleWith(s); } return result a reducer would have been a functional alternative to this Am 21.08.2012 13:04, schrieb Jim -

Re: Boolean

2012-04-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
why is there an exception for Boolean.FALSE? Am 07.04.2012 17:28, schrieb Softaddicts: Hi, You are not in the Clojure play ground when you use (Boolean. false). This expression creates a Java object, hence (if any-java-object ...) always evaluate the true branch in Clojure. In Clojure,

Re: Boolean

2012-04-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
i've never seen a new Boolean(...) in my 10 years of developing java code. Am 07.04.2012 22:49, schrieb Michael Klishin: Steven Obua: (if (Boolean. false) jesus christ) will return jesus, not christ. Googling this on the net, I found that this is a known phenomenon

Re: Best IDE

2012-01-19 Thread Dennis Haupt
. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: when i say debugging, i mean inspect fields and evaluate expressions. i attached a screenshot of all i get: a useless stacktrace and no variables. how do you debug? Am 18.01.2012 21:29, schrieb Jay

Re: are non programmers the better programmers?

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis Haupt
let's call it the biased experience effect. if there are 20 ways to solve a problem, and you just know 3 of them, you are a hammer and the problem looks like a nail. if you have a broader knowledge, you can pick a more appropriate solution. what i claim is that if you know NO solutions, the one

Re: Best IDE

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis Haupt
there is no really good ide (analysis, error highlighting, debugging) Am 18.01.2012 17:18, schrieb Jay Fields: Use emacs, if you want the path of least resistance for writing pure clojure code. You'll have the most support from the community. Use whatever IDE you already use for Java, if you

Re: Best IDE

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 18.01.2012 21:10, schrieb Sean Corfield: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: there is no really good ide (analysis, error highlighting, debugging) Hmm, I have error highlighting and debugging. Not sure what you mean by analysis. call hierarchy

are non programmers the better programmers?

2012-01-17 Thread Dennis Haupt
after the wtfs have worn off a bit, go on reading. imagine a simple problem: you have a collection of numbers and you have to write a function which collects all the numbers that are contained uneven times. for example, for a collection (1,2,3,2,3,4) the correct result is (1,4) ask a child: you

Re: are non programmers the better programmers?

2012-01-17 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 17.01.2012 22:17, schrieb Cedric Greevey: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: after the wtfs have worn off a bit, go on reading. imagine a simple problem: you have a collection of numbers and you have to write a function which collects all

Re: are non programmers the better programmers?

2012-01-17 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 17.01.2012 22:46, schrieb James Reeves: On 17 January 2012 20:46, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: i've noticed this since i started to work as a programmer 10 years ago. programmers in general are supposed to be good at finding simple solutions, but my experience

Re: are non programmers the better programmers?

2012-01-17 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 17.01.2012 23:08, schrieb daly: On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 21:46 +0100, Dennis Haupt wrote: after the wtfs have worn off a bit, go on reading. imagine a simple problem: you have a collection of numbers and you have to write a function which collects all the numbers that are contained uneven

Re: i am so bored

2012-01-15 Thread Dennis Haupt
details, etc. Right now you cannot even stat a file from clojure without calling the stat command from a shell. :/ --- Joseph Smith j...@uwcreations.com (402)601-5443 On Jan 14, 2012, at 6:12 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi there, i am looking for something

i am so bored

2012-01-14 Thread Dennis Haupt
hi there, i am looking for something to do, preferably something that makes me rich, but that is not a must have - if it's interesting, i'll code for free. i can offer almost 15 years of coding experience (important: while being open minded the whole time). i am a one man army, if you will :)

Re: i am so bored

2012-01-14 Thread Dennis Haupt
app from it at some point, but I am starting to realize I am not good enough to do the whole thing by myself, hence that email. Looking forward to have a reply from you, Sam On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com mailto:d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote

Re: want to make a 'debug' function, how to get current source and line number?

2011-12-15 Thread Dennis Haupt
in java i would throw an exception and parse its stack trace. don't know how to do that in clojure, but probably similar Am 15.12.2011 06:48, schrieb jaime: Hello there, I want to write a function named debug which will print out date- time msg + current source-line + etc. info, but I don't

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
The main thing to keep in mind is that when coming from java/scala, you'll have a hard time adjusting to clojure, and you're making it harder by trying something so inherently full of state. I understand the need to tackle problems that we like, but without a good understanding of the

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
In his code I did notice he doesn't use destructing very much. where would that have been useful? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 07.11.2011 10:18, schrieb Dennis Haupt: In his code I did notice he doesn't use destructing very much. where would that have been useful? defn x [{:keys [foo bar]} param] instead of defn x [param] (let [foo (:foo param)...]) ? -- -- You received this message because you

Re: Another newbie question

2011-11-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 06.11.2011 12:56, schrieb pron: Hi. I'm new to Clojure, and enjoy using it very much. It's been years since I learned Scheme back in college, and it's a pleasure going back to lisp. I do, however, have a question regarding real-world Clojure use in large teams. While I clearly understand

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 07.11.2011 08:00, schrieb Sean Corfield: On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: if by compatible you mean has a specific set of functions and fields, then scala can do that without sacrificing static type safety: Yes, I started working with Scala

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 07.11.2011 14:01, schrieb Milton Silva: On Nov 7, 12:41 pm, Milton Silva milton...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 7, 9:14 am, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: The main thing to keep in mind is that when coming from java/scala, you'll have a hard time adjusting to clojure

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 07.11.2011 14:02, schrieb Scott Jaderholm: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com mailto:d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 07.11.2011 10:18, schrieb Dennis Haupt: In his code I did notice he doesn't use destructing very much

Re: Another newbie question

2011-11-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
actually, we avoid dynamically typed languages like the plague. i am taking a peek at clojure because i'm curious. Am 07.11.2011 11:19, schrieb pron: I see. So namespaces are helpful here. What other team practices do you use? E.g. what do you use for effective documentation? With Java you

Re: anyone interested in a small game?

2011-11-06 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 30.10.2011 19:32, schrieb Dennis Haupt: hi community, i decided to create a (small) game in clojure to get a bit of non-theoretical experience. i'm pretty much a clojure noob (only did a few experiments) but have done a few real things

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-06 Thread Dennis Haupt
are that wanted. We have Common Lisp for quite some time now, and people seem quite happy with slime. Razvan On Nov 5, 2:16 pm, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi, i'm half done with my asteroids clone. i stumbled over a few problems and wanted to know how others already solved

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-06 Thread Dennis Haupt
from my iPad On 5 Nov 2011, at 12:16, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi, i'm half done with my asteroids clone. i stumbled over a few problems and wanted to know how others already solved them :) i am used to less concrete programming. i ask my tools to do the actual

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-06 Thread Dennis Haupt
be entirely defined by their inputs as oppose to being dependant on mutable state external to he function, in the most part. I am agreeing with you, and find these real world experiences incredibly useful. Sent from my iPad On 6 Nov 2011, at 13:03, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-06 Thread Dennis Haupt
term. Later on the functionality will be rewritten in the new app. Exciting times! Sent from my iPad On 6 Nov 2011, at 16:49, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: special cases that depend on mutable state are evil. i avoid mutable states as much as possible, no matter which

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-06 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 06.11.2011 19:06, schrieb Sean Corfield: On Sunday, November 6, 2011, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com mailto:d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: this is a double edged sword. you *do* get it right *if* you think it through, but reality is often more complex than you assume. if you

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-06 Thread Dennis Haupt
Am 06.11.2011 20:56, schrieb Sean Corfield: On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: let me guess: you had some classes that were used more than they should have been because they were the best match and introducing a better one would have taken more time

Re: problems of a newbie

2011-11-06 Thread Dennis Haupt
the clutter out. all i need is a big screen. :) but you're right, reading concise high level code reading verbose low level code On Nov 6, 2011 11:49 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com mailto:d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: special cases that depend on mutable state are evil. i avoid

Re: see if any branch of a cond succeeded

2011-11-05 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 what about (cond (= dir :left) ((move-left)(:ok)) (= dir :up) ((move-up)(:ok)) :else :nok) or whatever the exact syntax is Am 05.11.2011 08:22, schrieb Alan Malloy: On Nov 4, 11:49 pm, Baishampayan Ghose b.gh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 5,

problems of a newbie

2011-11-05 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, i'm half done with my asteroids clone. i stumbled over a few problems and wanted to know how others already solved them :) i am used to less concrete programming. i ask my tools to do the actual analysis and coding for me: * where is that used?

Re: a better way to write this

2011-11-04 Thread Dennis Haupt
: (let [full-test (every-pred type-pred bounds-check contact)] ... On Nov 4, 9:51 am, Dennis Haupt d.ha...@googlemail.com wrote: (let [type-pred #() bounds-check #() contact #() full-test (fn [element] (and (type-pred element) (bounds-check element) (contact element)))] (filter full-test (:game

- vs - and names vs anonymous function

2011-11-02 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi there, i stumbled over two odd things 1) - and - have the same source code. why is that? 2) why can't i use (- hi #(println %)) directly? why do i have to put my function into a symbol first? is there a way to avoid this? (let [dummy #(println

Re: - vs - and names vs anonymous function

2011-11-02 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thx *note: use macroexpand next time* Am 02.11.2011 10:58, schrieb Jonas: On Wednesday, November 2, 2011 11:37:32 AM UTC+2, HamsterofDeath wrote: hi there, i stumbled over two odd things 1) - and - have the same source code. why is that?

Re: anyone interested in a small game?

2011-11-01 Thread Dennis Haupt
it is absolutely necessary. Spread environmental awareness. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi community, i decided to create a (small) game in clojure to get a bit of non-theoretical experience. i'm pretty much a clojure noob (only did a few

Re: anyone interested in a small game?

2011-11-01 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i went a step further: since my asteroids are all immutable, they don't contain a renderer. the renderer would either require a reference to the asteroids data, position, size and so on - if that changes the renderer would be obsolete - or would

Re: anyone interested in a small game?

2011-10-31 Thread Dennis Haupt
it would give us a chance to introduce Agents as the building block of the game engine. Timothy On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi community, i decided to create a (small) game in clojure to get a bit of non-theoretical experience. i'm

Re: anyone interested in a small game?

2011-10-31 Thread Dennis Haupt
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY5qHe2VadA I like the idea of doing a Asteroids/Spacewar! clone, mostly because it would give us a chance to introduce Agents as the building block of the game engine. Timothy On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi community

Re: anyone interested in a small game?

2011-10-31 Thread Dennis Haupt
-split) etc. Actually, this really isn't too long of a project, at least the asteroids part isn't. Timothy On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: isn't openGL a bit of overkill (we can just use java2d), or do you want to add a renderer doing all

Re: anyone interested in a small game?

2011-10-31 Thread Dennis Haupt
as small as asteroids would work well to have multiple people working on it. Simply because each part of the game (graphics, physics, gui, etc.) are all so small, that multiple developers would just step on each other's toes. Timothy On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup

Re: anyone interested in a small game?

2011-10-31 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 no need for IRender since everything has a java.awt.polygon. i just draw it. in a sense, the polygon is my IRender and it's data is the implementation. i was thinking about using a simple type (:asteroid, :ship, :bullet) for each entity and pick an

Re: anyone interested in a small game?

2011-10-31 Thread Dennis Haupt
do this without any modifications to the core engine at all) then I would say you have reached a higher plane of understanding in when it comes to Clojure. Timothy On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: no need for IRender since everything

Re: anyone interested in a small game?

2011-10-31 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 if you *really* make zero assumptions, every second call has to be a protocol/interface call. *i know what i am, so no assumption* - *interface call* - *repeat* i think no assumptions should be make no assumptions about the internals of what you are

Can't take value of a macro aka macro noob needs help

2011-10-30 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i played around a bit (defmacro times [times exprs] '(let [countdown# ~times] (loop [remaining# countdown#] (when ( 0 remaining#) ~@exprs (recur (dec remaining#)) (defmacro forloop [[i end] code] `(let

Re: Can't take value of a macro aka macro noob needs help

2011-10-30 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 your magic eye is right. using a backquote fixed it Am 30.10.2011 15:37, schrieb David Powell: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com mailto:d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE

anyone interested in a small game?

2011-10-30 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi community, i decided to create a (small) game in clojure to get a bit of non-theoretical experience. i'm pretty much a clojure noob (only did a few experiments) but have done a few real things in scala - which is totally awesome btw - so i do have

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