Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-31 Thread Brian Kennison
On Mar 31, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Brian Kennison > wrote: I was perplexed by this also but I realized that there was “content negotiation” going on. I set the header to accept rdf and indeed there is data for this document. Everyone, I must

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-31 Thread Richard Wallis
BTW the OpenLink Structured Data Sniffer (OSDS) is a great little browser plugin to see what structured data is lurking in the html. I believe that it supersedes the OpenLink Data Explorer Extension. ~Richard On 31 March 2016 at 16:15, Brian Kennison

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-31 Thread Brian Kennison
I’m sorry I should have attached the pdf.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-31 Thread Brian Kennison
On Mar 31, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Kevin Ford > wrote: p.s. Curl command I used: curl -L -H 'Application/rdf+xml' http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2014/2014-02-18.html | grep schema I tried a few variations, such as removing the .html from the end of the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-31 Thread Dan Scott
As the person who created the patches for Bryn Mawr (Perl and Tcl and SGML--oh my!) back in 2014, their publication process generates static HTML. Any new pages should include RDFa (schema.org), but the legacy pages would have needed to be regenerated. It was fun working with Karen Coyle and

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-31 Thread Richard Wallis
As a FYI, as far as I am aware the search engines do not access pages using content negotiation (e.g.. asking for Application/rdf+xml) when looking for structured data such as schema.org in their crawl process. They expect to find it embedded in the HTML as Microdata, RDFa, or increasingly

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-31 Thread Kevin Ford
Hi Brian, I've tried the wget command and curl and in both cases I just get the HTML version of the document. I don't think any meaningful content negotiation is happening. It's probably as Karen suspected: they didn't return and embed schema in older reviews. Are you getting something

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-31 Thread Brian Kennison
On Mar 29, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Kevin Ford > wrote: FWIW, I'm looking at the HTML itself. You may be using a tool that is generating a little but of schema. Is that accurate? Kevin, I was perplexed by this also but I realized that there was

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-30 Thread Dan Scott
Hi Jennifer: On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 at 20:44 Jennifer DeJonghe < jennifer.dejon...@metrostate.edu> wrote: > I'm looking for examples of library web sites or university web sites that > are using Structured Data / schema.org to mark up books, locations, > events, etc, on their public web sites or

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-29 Thread Karen Coyle
I'm using OpenLink structured data sniffer[1]. No idea how it intuits schema that isn't there... kc [1] http://osds.openlinksw.com/ On 3/29/16 9:46 AM, Kevin Ford wrote: Huh. I didn't look at "How to read..." but I did look at the other two. Just so we're on the same page, here are the two I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Deduping linked data in search - was RE: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Wallis
raries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Kevin Ford > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 10:45 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Deduping linked data in search - was RE: > [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites >

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-29 Thread Kevin Ford
Huh. I didn't look at "How to read..." but I did look at the other two. Just so we're on the same page, here are the two I found in which I could not detect any schema.org markup: http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2014/2014-02-18.html http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2014/2014-01-48.html Interestingly, the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-29 Thread Karen Coyle
That's odd. I haven't done a large survey, but every recent item that I've looked at has had the code. http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html Statement Collection #1 Entity http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html Attributes rdfa:usesVocabulary

Re: [CODE4LIB] Deduping linked data in search - was RE: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-29 Thread Harper, Cynthia
linked data in search - was RE: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites It's probably not safe to say that "all search is local" but there is most certainly a strong local component considered for every search. For me, every hit on the first page of Google's results fo

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-29 Thread Kevin Ford
Hi Karen, I took a look at those bryn mawr hits and I don't see the schema.org used in the page. Am I missing it? Perhaps I found the wrong thing. If indeed it's not there, it just goes to show how using schema is not a panacea. Loads of factors go into search ranking, relevancy, and

Re: [CODE4LIB] Deduping linked data in search - was RE: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-29 Thread Kevin Ford
] Structured Data Markup on library web sites I worked on the addition of schema.org data to the Bryn Mawr Classical Reviews. Although I advised doing a "before and after" test to see how it affected retrieval, I lost touch with the folks before that could happen. However, their reviews

Re: [CODE4LIB] Deduping linked data in search - was RE: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-29 Thread Kevin Ford
Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Karen Coyle [li...@kcoyle.net] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 10:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites I worked on the addition of schema.org data to the Bryn Mawr Classical Reviews. Although

Re: [CODE4LIB] Deduping linked data in search - was RE: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-29 Thread Ruth Tillman
Thursday, March 24, 2016 10:28 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites > > I worked on the addition of schema.org data to the Bryn Mawr Classical > Reviews. Although I advised doing a "before and after" test to see how >

[CODE4LIB] Deduping linked data in search - was RE: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-29 Thread Harper, Cynthia
...@vts.edu From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Karen Coyle [li...@kcoyle.net] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 10:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites I worked

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-24 Thread Karen Coyle
I worked on the addition of schema.org data to the Bryn Mawr Classical Reviews. Although I advised doing a "before and after" test to see how it affected retrieval, I lost touch with the folks before that could happen. However, their reviews do show up fairly high in Google, around the 3-5th

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-23 Thread Alysa Selby
I'm in the process of re-building my Drupal sites and plan to implement schema.org markup for specific content types. Alysa Selby Digital Services Librarian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I'm currently reading: --A Doubter's Almanac

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-23 Thread Jason Bengtson
I've added pretty extensive schema.org at a couple of the libraries I've been at. I prefer to use JSON-LD. It was mainly for events, institutional info and people. I was looking at doing the same for books in the catalog at the TMC Library before I left. I doubt much of it is still in place; the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-23 Thread Ethan Gruber
We embed schema.org properties in RDFa within metadata for ETDs in our Digital Library application, e.g., http://numismatics.org/digitallibrary/ark:/53695/money_and_power_in_the_viking_kingdom_of_york I don't know exactly how Google's algorithms establish "authority," but the ETDs in our system

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-23 Thread Jason Ronallo
Charlie, Since you've been here we've also added schema.org data for events: http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/event/red-white-black-walking-tour-4 And for a long time we've used this for our special collections: http://d.lib.ncsu.edu/collections/catalog/mc00240-001-ff0093-001-001_0010 And for videos on a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-23 Thread Charlie Morris
I can remember putting schema.org markup around the location information for lib.ncsu.edu, and it's still there, checkout the footer. One small example anyway. I'm not sure that it's actually had any effects though - I don't see it in search engine results though and it's been there for probably

Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-23 Thread Natalie Pollecutt
Hello, Wellcome Library is doing this with our material. See http://wellcomelibrary.org/item/b18035978 . In the markup there is a section of json-ld. Adding markup like this to our material was part of a "quick wins" linked data project from 2015-16. Thanks, Natalie -- Natalie Pollecutt

[CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites

2016-03-22 Thread Jennifer DeJonghe
Hello, I'm looking for examples of library web sites or university web sites that are using Structured Data / schema.org to mark up books, locations, events, etc, on their public web sites or blogs. I'm NOT really looking for huge linked data projects where large record sets are marked up, but