Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-10 Thread Mike Baroukh
Qtopia is great and make FR usable. But the great thing that is missing is a WebBrowser. Also : - can't make gprs work - no gps but can we expect this to change with 4.4 ? For me, the greater is actually FSO... JW a écrit : go to the DISTRIBUTIONS page on the wiki follow the link to

Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-10 Thread Jay Vaughan
I guess it's pretty flaky :( But still I see some (slow) progress ;) It really could be related to the USB ports on your PC .. if for some reason your PC is not happy with the power-state changes demanded by the Freerunner, then it will reset the USB hard layer, and this has the effect

Why you don't crack your FR?

2008-08-10 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tooked from the thead 2008 WTF: As it seems they have the contrary. They have a leader which seems to dictate everything without accepting ideas from the developers or the community. - The problem is some features the community really

Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread Jay Vaughan
I think managing expectations is the crucial part...even slashdot had a pretty lukewarm response to the FR, going by the comments. Most of the discussion I've seen around the web seems to focus on the preliminary state of the software rather than then openness of the phone. For sure

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Olivier Berger wrote: And having : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle#Reactivating_the_keyboard_toggle_under_ASU up-to-date would help, I guess. ... if this is what it's about... I'm not sure : ASU vs. 2008.8... Anyway, might help

2008.8 Goes to sleep too fast!

2008-08-10 Thread Anton Persson
Hi, I have a problem, my FreeRunner goes to sleep to fast when I'm running the 2008.8 release. If I connect it to the USB socket of my computer I can hardly manage to login via SSH before it goes into hibernation, quite unuseful. How do I disable/configure the auto-hibernate feature? Best

Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I kept trying, rebooted, tested, again, again, unplugged USB, | replugged... and TADA, at some point it magically worked ! | | I've typed-in a few commands, got networking (opkg update completed), | did a

Re: 2008.8 Goes to sleep too fast!

2008-08-10 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 09:32 +0200, Anton Persson wrote: Hi, I have a problem, my FreeRunner goes to sleep to fast when I'm running the 2008.8 release. If I connect it to the USB socket of my computer I can hardly manage to login via SSH before it goes into hibernation, quite unuseful.

Re: 2008.8 Goes to sleep too fast!

2008-08-10 Thread nickd
Check the settings under suspend, maybe choose off if you want to do some ssh'ing. -Nick Anton Persson wrote: Hi, I have a problem, my FreeRunner goes to sleep to fast when I'm running the 2008.8 release. If I connect it to the USB socket of my computer I can hardly manage to login via

RE: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread Fredrik Wendt
2008-08-09 klockan 20:02 -0700, steve: If you want a ready to use phone you can always download the Qtopia distrubtion onto your freerunner and get A perfectly great ready to use phone. Then you can wait while 2008.8 matures and then download it when It is end user ready. I agree but think

Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)

2008-08-10 Thread Peter Trapp
Von: Fredrik Wendt I bought a USB gender changer (5€) and today I've played with it to see what the smartphone's capable of. I really only have one goal and that is to avoid having to buy a BT keyboard for faster input in the terminal. I've been able to connect two keyboards, they light up

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-10 Thread Roland Mas
Mike Baroukh, 2008-08-10 00:52:11 +0200 : But I'm asking this : When using wifi or usb, I don't need a proxy. When using GPRS, I need a proxy. I will not re-configure anything each time. Does somebody know if there is a solution ? Putting scripts into /etc/network/if-up.d would probably

Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)

2008-08-10 Thread Fredrik Wendt
sön 2008-08-10 klockan 10:50 +0200 skrev Peter Trapp: Von: Fredrik Wendt Do you want to use a USB keyboard with your FR? Yes. I found in the community ML following answer, but I have not tested though... snip HTH Well, that's the first basic step (which I did of course) - to setup the

Re: Kernel module request: MASQuerade on FR

2008-08-10 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi. | | I want to use the FreeRunner as a GPRS modem for my laptop. I can | successfully setup SNAT, but MASQUERADE would be even better (since the | GPRS connection is rather flaky and SNAT drops/looses track of the | laptop's connections when

Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)

2008-08-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been able to connect two keyboards, they light up but doesn't work in the terminal (FSO). Is there something I can do to enable input from these external devices? Does it work outside X? What does lsof | grep glamo print? What appears to

Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:02:33 -0400 Jeff Davis basically said that it's wrong to ask people to buy another phone if they're unhappy with the FreeRunner, no matter if they used bad language, weren't constructive in any way: [snip] In part (or principle) I agree to what you're saying. I

bye bye 2008.8, you wont be missed :(

2008-08-10 Thread William Kenworthy
I am afraid I am going to have to delete 2008.8 and forget it ever existed. Despite very little of it working, I was giving it a go but I just had a bug I raised on the keyboard closed with works for me saying in effect they are only willing to work on the existing keyboard and its working as

Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)

2008-08-10 Thread Fredrik Wendt
sön 2008-08-10 klockan 13:00 +0300 skrev Timo Juhani Lindfors: Hi, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been able to connect two keyboards, they light up but doesn't work in the terminal (FSO). Is there something I can do to enable input from these external devices? Does it

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-10 Thread Mike Baroukh
Putting scripts into /etc/network/if-up.d would probably work. Not so easy : - you may have 2 places where the same interface has different parameters (wifi at home and wifi at work ...). So you can't just add [pre|post]-up parameters in /etc/network/interface. - Not so easy to configure

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-10 Thread Roland Mas
Mike Baroukh, 2008-08-10 12:43:49 +0200 : Putting scripts into /etc/network/if-up.d would probably work. Not so easy : - you may have 2 places where the same interface has different parameters (wifi at home and wifi at work ...). So you can't just add [pre|post]-up parameters in

Re: bye bye 2008.8, you wont be missed :(

2008-08-10 Thread Peter Mogensen
William Kenworthy wrote: I am afraid I am going to have to delete 2008.8 and forget it ever existed. Despite very little of it working, I was giving it a go but I just had a bug I raised on the keyboard closed with works for me saying in effect they are only willing to work on the existing

FR and debian, seems it's progressing

2008-08-10 Thread Marcos Mezo
Reading planet debian today I came across this post/blog [1] by Joachim Breiner where he says they are packaging fso in debian: --- citation --- Here at DebConf 8 in Argentinia, I’m working on getting Debian to work on the OpenMoko Freerunner Smartphone. We are progressing quite nicely, soon

What's the latest stable u-boot image for FreeRunner?

2008-08-10 Thread Holly Lee
Hi there, I just got one FreeRunner and want to flash its system to latest. In buildhost.openmoko.org, there are only u-boot image for gta01 and it was built on Aug, 07. So I wanna ask where can I find u-boot binary for gta02? Thanks for any suggestion, -- Programming is Art

packaking Xglamo for debian?

2008-08-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi, after reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I noticed that xorg was used and there was only a short chapter on how you can copy Xglamo to /usr/bin. Do both work? Does Xglamo offer some advantages over xorg? If yes, would it be appropriate to package it to

Using a Nokia N95 - features I'd love to see.

2008-08-10 Thread Stroller
Hi there, I visited one of my customers yesterday - he has just got an upgrade to a Nokia N95 and wanted it set up to transfer his photos to his laptop. Many aspects of using the phone reminded me why I hate mobile phones. Once a mail account has been added there is no way to change its

Re: Using a Nokia N95 - features I'd love to see.

2008-08-10 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
On 14:30:19 2008-08-10 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I visited one of my customers yesterday - he has just got an upgrade to a Nokia N95 and wanted it set up to transfer his photos to his laptop. Many aspects of using the phone reminded me why I hate mobile phones. Once a

Re: FR and debian, seems it's progressing

2008-08-10 Thread Esben Stien
Marcos Mezo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- citation --- I’m working on getting Debian to work on the [..] Freerunner --- This is what I'm looking forward to. Something like this was what I always expected to have;). A great distro like debian just getting a GSM daemon that

Re: packaking Xglamo for debian?

2008-08-10 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/8/10 Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does Xglamo offer some advantages over xorg? I guess it has some of the acceleration features that help to overcome the slowness of Glamo otherwise, if compared to pure framebuffer device. But couldn't Xglamo just be made into xf86-video-glamo

Re: Upgrading on Qtopia

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I hope that is ok. nope -- it is not actually -- leads to all kinds of problems just remove all those qtopia packages and reinstall /opt/QTopia from trolltech's opkg upgrade is safe as far as it doesn't install any *qtopia* packages which install also under /opt/Qtopia (which has to be changed

Re: 2008.8 Goes to sleep too fast!

2008-08-10 Thread Matt
You can alter the suspend time in Settings/Suspend The longest delay is either 60second or off. You can edit /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/expos/suspend.py It's pretty easy to figure out how to alter the 10,30,60 second suspend times. For instance change the occurance of 60 to 300 and you'll

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?

2008-08-10 Thread DooD
Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt

Re: Android

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
Correct! My guess is that once Google releases the source, Freerunner will be among the first non-partner platforms that Android runs on. sure? i expected the embeddedubuntu people to embrace the freerunner as first really available device -- but they still do their stuff for armv5 ...

Re: FR and debian, seems it's progressing

2008-08-10 Thread Matt
I think Openmoko could take a leaf from the book of Debian. Their Stable/Unstable/Testing approach allows users to pick the build which suits their needs and allows the users, to manage their own expectations. Admittedly, stable releases take years, but they tend to be rock solid. mj Marcos

Re: Freerunner for Sale

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
Pricing? And what about w/o ATT card? I have a phone-free E-Plus (german provider) here. with atat it will probably be the 850 variety -- so only limited use in germany (eplus uses 1800 _and_ 900, too) ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
Not so easy : - you may have 2 places where the same interface has different parameters (wifi at home and wifi at work ...). So you can't just add you can do that in wpa_supplicant.conf. just add your different wifi-aps to the conf (it does wep and no enc, too) and let wpa_supplicant handle

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?

2008-08-10 Thread Yorick Moko
GREAT! now we only need a method to switch between the keyboards and it would be even better. Thanks a lot! y On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:40 PM, DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
yochaigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The key is to follow the wikis--- but make sure you format and fill the sd card from a linux box, not from the phone. do everything as root. also, make sure to update your u-boot so that it can handle fat and ext file systems. finally, be very careful

Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread Flyin_bbb8
But who would buy a $400 phone with just looking at pictures or reading a blog or something mentioning it, then going to the website (openmoko.com) and buying it. without checking the wiki or asking anyone that owns it.. openmoko.com doesn't give any proper information on anything other

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's difficult to move things from the very live system you're running. i'd think the only thing to care about would be /var/. just as idea: rsync the whole of the fr to the sd card and diff after a while to see which parts changed.

Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
But who would buy a $400 phone with just looking at pictures or reading a iphone geeks :-) (ow, i said it) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
It seems that many issues are linked to qpe shipped with 2008.2 thus it would be great if people know how to get valuable debug information I didn't install famous 2008.2 yeat so I am asking someone to confirm that this works (it came from irc chat with lpotter): cp

Re: What's up with Openmoko store?

2008-08-10 Thread Flyin_bbb8
So any updates steve? On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:02 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry I'm at Linux world, I'll met with Sean in Friday and discuss. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: steve wrote: Magic 47 ohm resistor will get you 1A. its on the wiki somewhere. Thanks... Should be that on the ID pin? We need a better search on the wiki Maybe also a small article with photos (as example) of a reworked charger (I

Re: bye bye 2008.8, you wont be missed :(

2008-08-10 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
I agree that the keyboard is a big disappointment. After learning a few undocumented tricks (right to left for back space, and the left to right for accept word) it is a little better, but... if it weren't for the mailing list I still wouldn't know how to type anything but [A-Z]*... One of the

Re: Android

2008-08-10 Thread Jim Ancona
arne anka wrote: sure? i expected the embeddedubuntu people to embrace the freerunner as first really available device -- but they still do their stuff for armv5 There seems to be a lot of interest in running Android on other platforms (see the android-internals group[1] and this post[2]),

networking issues

2008-08-10 Thread Scott
my resolv.conf is blank every time I boot up? I manually set it via ssh through the usb connection. sync. reboot the phone and its blank?? Is there any wifi application available that will detect and connect available networks? Scott ___ Openmoko

Where is it?

2008-08-10 Thread Scott
I used the spiffy new installer to install xterm. The install went without any errors. Where is it? Its not on the main page? Its listed in the uninstall list of the installer? Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Using openocd

2008-08-10 Thread Lynn Nguyen
Hi all, I was wondering, has anyone had any luck connecting their debug board (v3) to a neo1973? I followed all the instructions here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3 (for linux) but I keep getting 'no valid jtag interface found'. But that doesn't make any sense because I can see the

Re: Using openocd

2008-08-10 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
Hi Lynn- Hi all, I was wondering, has anyone had any luck connecting their debug board (v3) to a neo1973? I followed all the instructions here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debug_Board_v3 (for linux) but I keep getting 'no valid jtag interface found'. But that doesn't make any sense

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess it may be done from the FR itself... but I'm afraid it's difficult to move things from the very live system you're running. i'd think the only thing to care about would be /var/. just as idea: rsync the whole of the fr to the sd card and diff after

RE: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread steve
I'll Agree in part that the web shop could be clearer. So we will fix that. Shipping with Qtopia really wasn't an option, given the schedules. So, when the phone went into production qtopia was not quite ready. Trust me we considered the path of doing a launch with Qtopia. So, We finished a

Re: debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Thomas B.
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:47:53AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: It seems that many issues are linked to qpe shipped with 2008.2 thus it would be great if people know how to get valuable debug information I didn't install famous 2008.2 yeat so I am asking someone to confirm that this

Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?

2008-08-10 Thread Scott
Ever since I installed 2008.8 my battery meter on teh phone showed the lightning bolt whether it was plugged in or not. I wondered, hmmm.. I hope its charging since we all know the neo will drain your battery beyond dead and thanks to a great design will then not be able to charge it... Well,

Re: debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
no -- the same was on qtopia -- but on OM it wasn't under ~/Settings/Trolltech right? so it wasn't yet enabled -- to enable it you need to copy it there afaik have you tried to copy it and see if logread gets populated with messages? :-) On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Thomas B. wrote: On Sun, Aug 10,

Re: What's the latest stable u-boot image for FreeRunner?

2008-08-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi there, | | I just got one FreeRunner and want to flash its system to latest. In | buildhost.openmoko.org, there are only u-boot image for gta01 and it | was built on Aug, 07. So I wanna ask where can I

Kernel and Dual booting

2008-08-10 Thread Mikael Berthe
* Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-10 18:16 +0200]: Now I need to test if I can boot it on the SD. If it succeeds, I will then be able to flash OM 2008.8, and have switched between flash and SD. Dual booting is cool ;) Yes it is :) (Actually I'm running 2007 from flash and 2008.8

Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess it's pretty flaky :( But still I see some (slow) progress ;) It really could be related to the USB ports on your PC .. if for some reason your PC is not happy with the power-state changes demanded by the Freerunner, then it will reset the

Re: networking issues

2008-08-10 Thread Christian Weßel
I will try wicd, a phyton based appl. I use on my wifes notebook very successfull. Feel free to be the first :-). christian Am Sonntag, den 10.08.2008, 09:44 -0600 schrieb Scott: my resolv.conf is blank every time I boot up? I manually set it via ssh through the usb connection. sync.

Re: networking issues

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
my resolv.conf is blank every time I boot up? first: it's an issue rather for support. second: it has been reported already (should even be mentioned under known issues) and there have been several proposals for a workaround: - add echo nameserver XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX /etc/resolv.conf to your

Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I kept trying, rebooted, tested, again, again, unplugged USB, | replugged... and TADA, at some point it magically worked ! | | I've typed-in a few commands, got networking (opkg update completed), | did a few

Re: Where is it?

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
I used the spiffy new installer to install xterm. The install went without any errors. Where is it? Its not on the main page? Its listed in the uninstall list of the installer? please post it to support. else check where the *.desktop file lives (opkg files xterm) and check it for the

Re: Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
see support. has been reported already icl a trac entry. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-10 Thread Rorschach
Hi fellows, I tested a few minutes ago with my Neo Freerunner the new qtopia image (4.32-080808) which was released yesterday. And I can report that the suspend problem is nearly completly fixed: * I can suspend * I can wakeup (pressing the startbutton) * After suspend I can make and recieve

Re: Where is it?

2008-08-10 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sonntag 10 August 2008 17:46:22 schrieb Scott: I used the spiffy new installer to install xterm. The install went without any errors. Where is it? Its not on the main page? Its listed in the uninstall list of the installer? Sounds like the package is missing a proper .desktop file. --

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
well -- correct me if I am wrong, but the irony of the situation is that suspend/wakeup is handled by the kernel, and qtopia images use stock kernel from OM. Thus whatever suspend/resume achievements you see - they are solely due to OM developers. qtopia relevant pros though: call/receive after

Re: What's the latest stable u-boot image for FreeRunner?

2008-08-10 Thread Mike Montour
Holly Lee wrote: I just got one FreeRunner and want to flash its system to latest. In buildhost.openmoko.org, there are only u-boot image for gta01 and it was built on Aug, 07. So I wanna ask where can I find u-boot binary for gta02? Look in the daily directory of buildhost, e.g.

Re: debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Thomas B.
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:21:55PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: no -- the same was on qtopia -- but on OM it wasn't under ~/Settings/Trolltech right? so it wasn't yet enabled -- to enable it you need to copy it there afaik have you tried to copy it and see if logread gets populated with

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-10 Thread Rorschach
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:12:36 -0400 Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well -- correct me if I am wrong, but the irony of the situation is that suspend/wakeup is handled by the kernel, and qtopia images use stock kernel from OM. Thus whatever suspend/resume achievements you see - they

Re: What's the latest stable u-boot image for FreeRunner?

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
Look in the daily directory of buildhost, e.g. http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080809/u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitr54+dc633f4be2527f844158aa5085c278b0c3039d3f-r0.bin well, there's always a file called uboot-gta02v5-latest.bin (hint, hint)

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:12:36 -0400 | Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | well -- correct me if I am wrong, but the irony of the situation is that | suspend/wakeup is handled by the kernel, and

Re: Using openocd

2008-08-10 Thread Lynn Nguyen
I believe so. I used the openocd.cfg that is given on the wiki. I've even followed the steps here: http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/werner/notes/openocd which seem to be legit. The step I get stuck on is running openocd. I think maybe there is something wrong with the libftdi phase? I'm not sure

Re: debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
did you restart qpe? (just wanted to make sure) On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Thomas B. wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:21:55PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: no -- the same was on qtopia -- but on OM it wasn't under ~/Settings/Trolltech right? so it wasn't yet enabled -- to enable it you need

Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
2008/8/10 Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hahaha :p iphone geeks :-) (ow, i said it) The funny thing is, in my idealistic brain, I thought geeks shouldn't even want the iPhone... I know I don't want to have anything to do with that closed system. I am truly amazed at how many of the geeks I

Re: FR and debian, seems it's progressing

2008-08-10 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
We are planning just that, give us a bit of time to sort things out after the Om 2008.8 release. Wolfgang On Aug 10, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Matt wrote: I think Openmoko could take a leaf from the book of Debian. Their Stable/Unstable/Testing approach allows users to pick the build which suits

RE: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread Fredrik Wendt
sön 2008-08-10 klockan 09:13 -0700 skrev steve: I'll Agree in part that the web shop could be clearer. So we will fix that. Thank you, on behalf of those that can't look deep enough to understand the state of the openmoko software (and hence the smartphone). Shipping with Qtopia really wasn't

Re: debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Thomas B.
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 01:50:10PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: did you restart qpe? (just wanted to make sure) I rebooted, so, yes. But anyway, with or without that file, I can't complain about a lack of debugging information at the moment, at least regarding GSM. The complete

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-10 Thread Mike Baroukh
you can do that in wpa_supplicant.conf. just add your different wifi-aps to the conf (it does wep and no enc, too) and let wpa_supplicant handle it. I'll take a look. But there must be something I don't understand. Because if wpa_supplicant handle only wifi, what about usb, gprs or other

Re: Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-10 Thread Peter Mogensen
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: qtopia has 1 very annoying to me issue though -- if I receive a phone call, and click on answer button -- it takes 2-4 seconds for the phone to actually react -- thus I often lost some phone calls which is annoying. well... part of the problem is that the hangup

Re: debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
thank you Thomas! so I guess no need to document anything in wiki ;-) On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Thomas B. wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 01:50:10PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: did you restart qpe? (just wanted to make sure) I rebooted, so, yes. But anyway, with or without that file, I

RE: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread steve
Here is a good start. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_Overview If you want fully functional smart phone, Then download the Qtopia distribution. If you want to help OM develop it's end user applications, then download 2008.8. It's still Alpha, which means its not feature complete,

RE: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-10 Thread steve
We try to make the details clear here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_Overview But Sean, Will and I are sitting here in the hotel room adding the link to a qtopia download. I'm just given orders, Will does the work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Car charger to GTA02

2008-08-10 Thread C R McClenaghan
Although not measured, I've confirmed that the iGo systems - Juice and car charger - with the A32 tip will charge the Neo Freerunner. At one point it stopped working, but either of a uboot or kernel change has it working again. On Aug 10, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Olivier Berger wrote: Marco

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
you can do that in wpa_supplicant.conf. just add your different wifi-aps to the conf (it does wep and no enc, too) and let wpa_supplicant handle it. I'll take a look. But there must be something I don't understand. Because if wpa_supplicant handle only wifi, what about usb, gprs or other

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-10 Thread arne anka
i need either a new keyboard or new hands ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FSO and GSM instability

2008-08-10 Thread Fredrik Wendt
lör 2008-08-09 klockan 20:31 +0200 skrev Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Am Samstag 09 August 2008 14:12:56 schrieb NeilBrown: ogsmdINFO org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.Status: {'cid': '590C', 'strength': 0, 'provider': 'vodafone AU', 'lac': '08A2', 'registration': 'home'} [...] That's

Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Anyway, it seems it's rather unstable in the first times the system is | brought up, and stabilizes after a while. | If I unplug the USB cable when I lose IP connectivity, and replug | after 1/2 seconds,

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Jay Vaughan
I thought of another way to proceed in between, and started to document it here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD Great work! I was going to do something similar to this myself this weekend but I'll wait to hear of your results before I do! :) ; -- Jay

Re: Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?

2008-08-10 Thread Scott
nope I looked, battery dying while plugged into laptop usb has not been reported. arne anka wrote: see support. has been reported already icl a trac entry. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-10 Thread Harald Koenig
On Aug 09, Monkey D. Luffy wrote: 1) camera (decent one, 3MP or more) Will it be possible to record movies with sound? What resolution? if there will be a camera, please make the hardware so modular that it's possible to remove the camera without big hassle like cutting PCBs etc. (and

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought of another way to proceed in between, and started to document it here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD Great work! I was going to do something similar to this myself this weekend but I'll wait to hear

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
you better off using cpio or rsync imho for copying filesystems entirely since they know more about devices/pipes/etc On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Olivier Berger wrote: One issue I've found is that cp -a didn't relyably copy from MTD/flash to SD 5 or 6 files. After diff -r on dirs I found out which

Re: FSO and GSM instability

2008-08-10 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sonntag 10 August 2008 21:53:11 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: lör 2008-08-09 klockan 20:31 +0200 skrev Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Am Samstag 09 August 2008 14:12:56 schrieb NeilBrown: ogsmdINFO org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.Status: {'cid': '590C', 'strength': 0, 'provider': 'vodafone

Illume GSM widget question

2008-08-10 Thread Thomas Köckerbauer
Hi I guess the question goes mainly to raster but I'm happy about replys from others too :) I'm living near the German border in Austria and sometimes get a signal from an Austrian network operator and sometimes from a German network operator. If I'm connected to an German network operator

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-10 Thread Craig B. Allen
There is another problem that seems to plague not just all the OM kernels but other projects (OLPC in particular, who have been trying to solve this issue for a couple months) - the SD card partition being trashed after a suspend/resume cycle. My assumption is that this a problem with the Linux

Battery Charge Solution(Not)

2008-08-10 Thread Scott
I attempted to install the two solutions to the Neo FreeRunner not charging when connected to a laptop or car charger. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode Even though both sources can easily handle a 500ma charge. The first one that is packaged up

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Olivier Berger
Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you better off using cpio or rsync imho for copying filesystems entirely since they know more about devices/pipes/etc You may be right, although on a typical Debian system, I tend to trust cp -a... Now, it may be a busybox version, with other

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I didn't track those -- is is trashed regardless if partition is mounted read/only or read/write? I would assume that it should be safe in read-only mount, thus just (re)mount your SD read-only and be happy listening to the music ;-) On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Craig B. Allen wrote: So while it's a

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-10 Thread Craig B. Allen
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't track those -- is is trashed regardless if partition is mounted read/only or read/write? I would assume that it should be safe in read-only mount, thus just (re)mount your SD read-only and be happy listening

Re: Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?

2008-08-10 Thread Scott
The only defect I found on the trac is about no indication of charging when phone is off. And its listed as an enhancement? My problem with the 2008.8 is two fold and not that. 1.) it always shows it charging, there is no indication of battery level ever. You never know where the battery

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