Re: word cloud for Qur'anic chapters

2010-01-24 Thread Bayan Shawar
Salam Sharaf,
  This is me Bayan Abu Shawar if you still remember. In fact it is a good idea 
if you apply it in any Arabic corpus, but i am not sure what will be the aim of 
doing this to Qur'an? Ok you extract the content words but they are not appear 
in the same order as it in Qur'an, so it's like you extract content words from 
different souras and merge it together. may be i am not familiar with world 
cloud, but because it is Qur'an we should be careful. If the aim is to extract 
th content word, then for example see how these words are used nowadays in 
different Arabic corpra like media one, comparing language of Qur'an with other 
ones, and do other useful statistics, this will be good. I am just worry about 
the way result appear in the link u sent us, just because it is qur'an, may be 
you could presented in a different way. What do you think?

Good luck,
Bayan

--- On Sat, 23/1/10, Abdulbaqi Sharaf a.m.shara...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:

 From: Abdulbaqi Sharaf a.m.shara...@leeds.ac.uk
 Subject: word cloud for Qur'anic chapters
 To: comp-quran@comp.leeds.ac.uk comp-quran@comp.leeds.ac.uk
 Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 16:29
 Hello,
 
 I have implemented word cloud for Qur'anic surahs:
 http://www.textminingthequran.com/php/wordcloud.html
 
 you can choose more than one Sura, and can consider only
 content words, the list of stop words is initial and should
 grow to more words in future, have a try and let me know
 your feedback..
 
 best,
 
 Abdul-Baquee M. Sharaf
 PhD Student
 Language Technologies Group
 School of Computing
 University of Leeds
 UK
 


  



Re: Advice Required - Dialog System for the Quran

2010-02-27 Thread Bayan Shawar

Salam Kais,
  in fact we will face one important problem: not all these answers are right, 
so we could not trust any website, we should be sure who sent the fatwa. I 
found some QA, but i am sure not all answers are right, i read some and i found 
it nonsense.
You can have a look at:
http://www.godsmosque.org/topten.htm

But do not trust the answers source, some answers are totally not right in my 
opinion.

Or we may collect the QA then we show it to a scholar to select he correct ones.


I will try to find more,
Best wsihes,
Bayan
--- On Sat, 27/2/10, Kais Dukes dukes.k...@googlemail.com wrote:

 From: Kais Dukes dukes.k...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: Advice Required - Dialog System for the Quran
 To: Bayan Shawar bsha...@yahoo.com
 Cc: comp-quran@comp.leeds.ac.uk
 Date: Saturday, 27 February, 2010, 21:25
 Hello Bayan,
 
 I think this sounds very exciting and interesting. As a
 first step, I
 would like to discuss how we can put together a list of
 questions (and
 hopefully answers) related to the Quran, ideally with each
 entry in
 the list linked to a specific verse which contains the
 answer. You
 mentioned Islamway.com - I wonder if you (or others) are
 aware of any
 online sources for questions and answers as well as this,
 that we
 could use to compile the QA knowledge base?
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 - Kais Dukes
 
 Language Research Group
 School of Computing
 University of Leeds
 
 http://corpus.quran.com - The Quranic Arabic Corpus
 comp-quran@comp.leeds.ac.uk
 - Computational Quranic Arabic discussion list
 
  On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Bayan Shawar bsha...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Dear Kais,
   This will be agreat idea, i may help you in this. I
 used the Qur'an before to train the chatbot. I took all
 verses in arabic and English. However the idea was not as
 the one you suggested because my database was only the
 qur'an without interpretation. So when you ask a question
 about Islam, an answer would be obtained from the Qur'an
 verse, so the answer is the verse that match least frequent
 words.
 
  At that time i used some of Islamin questions obtained
 from ISlamway.com, and other islamic sites. Then i asked
 muslims and non muslims to evalute if the answeres obtained
 were related, partially related or non.
 
  Now, are you goinf to use the English version of the
 Qur'an as the sourse of your answer, or as i understood we
 would like to obtain an answer as you mentioned then we
 could refer the user to verse number and soora in Qur'an. In
 this cae in additin to questions, what will be your databse:
 is it a structure database as QA as the one found in TREC.
 Just if you could provide me with an image of how your
 corpus is structured. Then i can use this corpus to feed the
 chatbot with, and we can try to use this chatbot as a QA and
 see how resuts will be, and i will try to modify it or build
 it from scratch.
 
  Eric and me was discussing such idea last July, but i
 was not have enough time, now you raise up the idea to
 surface again, and i will be happy to work on it.
 
  looking forward o hearing from you for further
 cooperation, if you have any question, let me know please.
 
  Best wishes,
  Bayan
 
  --- On Sat, 27/2/10, Kais Dukes dukes.k...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Kais Dukes dukes.k...@googlemail.com
  Subject: Advice Required - Dialog System for the
 Quran
  To: comp-quran@comp.leeds.ac.uk
  Date: Saturday, 27 February, 2010, 20:46
  Hello Members of the Computational
  Quran Mailing List,
 
  Current research in the Quranic Arabic Corpus
 project
  involves:
 
  - Morphological annotation
  - Syntactic annotation
  - Ontology of Quranic Concepts (towards a
 semantic
  representation of the Quran)
 
  As well as extending the morphological and
 syntactic
  annotation of the
  Quran, I am keen to start thinking about a later
 stage of
  this
  research. The final (long-term) aim of this
 project is to
  build an
  intelligent expert question-answering system. An
 example
  might be:
 
  ==
  Question:
  How long should I breastfeed my child for?
 
  Answer:
  Mothers may breastfeed their children two
 complete years
  for whoever
  wishes to complete the nursing [period].
  - Source: The Holy Quran, verse (2:233).
  ==
 
  Such a system would allow general website users to
 ask
  simple
  questions, and get back answers based on facts
 contained in
  verses of
  the Quran. As a first step to constructing such a
 system, I
  am keen to
  get hold of a large list of questions (and
 hopefully
  answers) backed
  by verses of the Quran. I would like to ask the
 members of
  this
  mailing list advice on building together a list of
 sample
  questions
  (e.g. several hundred or several thousand
 questions that
  people might
  commonly ask). Does anybody have any suggestions
 for online
  (or other
  resources) for Islamic questions and answers,
 hopefully
  with all the
  answers directly as verses of the Quran?
 
  It would