Re: [Computer-go] AI Driving Cars

2017-01-07 Thread Mark Goldfain
Perhaps you did not hear about the fatal Tesla crash in Florida on 05/07/16? http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/07/01/business/inside-tesla-accident.html Or the fatal crash in China of a Tesla on 01/16/16, which only got reported in the news around September?

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-07 Thread Álvaro Begué
If you are killed by an AI-driven car, the manufacturer will use the case to improve the algorithm and make sure that this type of death never happens again. Unfortunately a death by a drunk driver doesn't seem to teach anyone anything and will keep happening as long as people need to drive and

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-07 Thread Xavier Combelle
It already happened https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/30/tesla-autopilot-death-self-driving-car-elon-musk Le 07/01/2017 à 22:34, Nick Wedd a écrit : > The first time someone's killed by an AI-controlled vehicle, you can > be sure it'll be world news. That's how journalism works. >

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-07 Thread Xavier Combelle
All the point, is that there is very little chance that you are more likely to dead by an AI driven than a human driven as the expectation set to AI driven is at least one order of magnitude higher than human one before there is any hope that AI would be authorized (Actually the real expectation

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-07 Thread Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira
Well, I don't know what is the likelihood of being hit by drunk drivers or AI driven cars, but if it were the same I'd prefer to have drunk drivers. Drunk drivers you can understand: you can improve your chances by making yourself more visible, do not jump from beyond obstacles, be more careful

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-07 Thread Nick Wedd
The first time someone's killed by an AI-controlled vehicle, you can be sure it'll be world news. That's how journalism works. Nick On 7 January 2017 at 21:24, Xavier Combelle wrote: > > > ...this is a major objective. E.g., we do not want AI driven cars > > working

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-07 Thread David Doshay
Yes, standards are high for AI systems … but we digress Cheers, David G Doshay ddos...@mac.com > On 7, Jan 2017, at 1:24 PM, Xavier Combelle wrote: > > >> ...this is a major objective. E.g., we do not want AI driven cars >> working right most of the time but

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-07 Thread Xavier Combelle
> ...this is a major objective. E.g., we do not want AI driven cars > working right most of the time but sometimes killing people because > the AI faces situations (such as a local sand storm or a painting on > the street with a fake landscape or fake human being) outside its > current training

[Computer-go] January KGS bot tournament

2017-01-07 Thread Nick Wedd
The January KGS bot tournament will be on Sunday, January 15th, starting at 08:00 UTC and end by 15:00 UTC. It will use 19x19 boards, with time limits of 29 minutes each plus very fast Canadian overtime, and komi of 7½. It will be a Swiss tournament. See

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-07 Thread Robert Jasiek
On 07.01.2017 16:33, Jim O'Flaherty wrote: I hope you get access to AlphaGo ASAP. More realistically, I (we) would need to translate the maths into algorithmic strategy then executed by a program module representing the human opponent. Such is necessary because no human can remember

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

2017-01-07 Thread Jim O'Flaherty
I love your dedication to the principles of logic. I'm looking forward to hearing and seeing how your explorations in this area pan out. They will be valuable to everyone interested in exploring AI weaknesses. I hope you get access to AlphaGo ASAP. On Jan 6, 2017 11:28 PM, "Robert Jasiek"