Re: [Computer-go] Basic Player (Java)

Also, when it comes to literature, this is the place to start: http://www.citeulike.org/group/5884/library Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On May 3, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Tobias Pfeiffer wrote: Dear Computer-Go mailing-list subscribers, I have a little question and I would be very

Re: [Computer-go] Two queries

was the latest large development but I suspect things have move beyond this now. http://www.citeulike.org/group/5884/library Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [Computer-go] effectiveness of transposition tables for go

could conceivably cause the program some moves that are illegal, but I believe (without strong evidence) that such events are rare enough to ignore. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On May 9, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Mark Boon wrote: So nobody has made it work yet? That makes me feel

[Computer-go] Old archives

somewhere? Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] kgsGtp bug?

Yes, that explains it. Thanks! Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Dec 3, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Petr Baudis wrote: Hi! On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 01:07:16PM -0800, Peter Drake wrote: After playing many consecutive 9x9 games, Orego12 was cut off because (apparently) someone tried

Re: [Computer-go] Some newbie questions

protocol: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~gunnar/gtp/ Tournaments are held monthly on the KGS Go Server. Watch this list for details. If the conditions are right, I might want to try Go-programming in near future... Joona Kiiski Best of luck! Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake

[Computer-go] Orego 7.08 released

should find it particularly useful. I'll be happy to answer any questions about setting it up and using Orego. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [Computer-go] Orego 7.08 released

I thought it already was one. What is the obstacle? (I don't have a spare machine to run it on, but anyone else is welcome to do so.) Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Brian Sheppard wrote: Is it now possible to make Orego into a standard opponent

Re: [Computer-go] Orego 7.08 released

Not a problem. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Jan 10, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Brian Sheppard wrote: Maybe I confused you with the term standard. There is a page devoted to engines that meet certain criteria: http://computergo.wikispaces.com/CGOS+Standard+Engine+Packs Orego

Re: [Computer-go] Orego 7.08 released

Yes, the Power of Forgetting paper. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Jan 11, 2011, at 3:47 AM, Aja wrote: I discover that this upcoming paper is already available in your website http://legacy.lclark.edu/~drake/Orego.html I will try this interesting idea in Erica. Aja

Re: [Computer-go] Running automated bot matches?

to Java in this version so that new researchers wouldn't have to learn another language. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Joona Kiiski wrote: Hi everyone, During the last week I've been examining sources of different open source go-engines (fuego, pachi

Re: [Computer-go] Orego 7.08 released

All true. We were hoping to get an easy boost by extracting joseki from recorded games of strong players. Finding refutations of bad moves is more difficult, because strong players don't make the bad moves and weak players don't know how to refute them. :-) Peter Drake http

Re: [Computer-go] Beta-testing: feedback to bot owners

. StoneGrid had played normally in the previous tests, so I guess it dislikes non-standard board sizes. You are correct about my location, but I don't understand your reasoning. Also, I am the author of Orego, not StoneGrid. Also, Orego has to be recompiled to change board sizes. Peter

Re: [Computer-go] The heuristic last good reply

encourage other authors to try it. It's reassuring to see that you got some strength improvement out of it! Thanks, Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [Computer-go] The heuristic last good reply

I'm all for a learning policy, if you can figure out how to do it. :-) Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Jan 25, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Aja wrote: Hi Professor Drake, I will try with more playouts. Thanks for your reminding. I give an example to show my view: default policy should

Re: [Computer-go] March KGS bot tournament: 13x13

Is this the correct way to state those time settings? rules.time=19:00+10/0:30 Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Mar 5, 2011, at 12:47 AM, Nick Wedd wrote: Reminder - it's tomorrow. In message baht9kbxphanf...@maproom.demon.co.uk, Nick Wedd n...@maproom.co.uk writes

Re: [Computer-go] KgsGtp disconnecting for no apparent reason

That did the trick -- thanks for the instant response! Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Jun 4, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Francois van Niekerk wrote: You seem to be running an old version of kgsGtp. Try upgrading to 3.5.0 from http://www.gokgs.com/download.jsp -- Francois van Niekerk

Re: [Computer-go] A Linear Classifier Outperforms UCT on 9x9 Go

policy (used for the first 10 moves of each playout) is to choose the (legal) move that the classifier rates highest. Is that the only use of the classifier in the system? The above is the only use of the classifier. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake

Re: [Computer-go] A Linear Classifier Outperforms UCT on 9x9 Go

to one or three. (We were surprised by the latter result; we thought deeper history might slow things down, but we didn't expect it to harm performance.) Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org

Re: [Computer-go] A Linear Classifier Outperforms UCT on 9x9 Go

at these levels) Yes -- as stated, this new method is not (yet?) competitive with cutting-edge MCTS (e.g., RAVE and fancy domain-specific playouts). Our claim is merely that it beats vanilla UCT. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] A Linear Classifier Outperforms UCT on 9x9 Go

a result that is better. (But maybe not much better; hard to tell because there is no comparison to Orego+RAVE.) Yes, RAVE is much better. :-) Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http

Re: [Computer-go] A Linear Classifier Outperforms UCT on 9x9 Go

is not magic, and cannot detect patterns faster than the underlying statistics allow. Of course. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] A Linear Classifier Outperforms UCT on 9x9 Go

recent moves. Again, no improvement. Of course, it's possible that one of these ideas is valid and we just did it wrong. We welcome experiments by others! Thanks, Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer

Re: [Computer-go] A Linear Classifier Outperforms UCT on 9x9 Go

True. It performed better at the times we tried, and vanilla MCTS did not appear close to catching up. In the theoretical limit, though, MCTS is clearly a richer representation. On Jun 30, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Erik van der Werf wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Peter Drake dr

[Computer-go] Decision trees: making the most of each playout

add patterns, atari, etc. Disadvantages: 1) It's not immediately clear how to pre-initialize the tree to take advantage of domain knowledge. Ideally this could be done through self- play or examining recorded games. Comments? Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake

[Computer-go] GNU Go grinds to halt when opponent plays out a ladder?

anyone else run into this? Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] current baseline implementations of MCTS

If you prefer to work in Java, Orego has (IMHO) clearly-written code, including the features you mention: http://legacy.lclark.edu/~drake/Orego.html Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Aug 8, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Carter Cheng wrote: Hi, I am looking for some kind of baseline

Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to pachi2!

moves, and was also won by oakfoam. but none of the diagrams are labeled as involving Orego12. I presume it's the one labeled Fuego vs pachi2 and captioned Movbe 49. Thanks, Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Aug 14, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Nick Wedd wrote: Congratulations to pachi2

[Computer-go] Slightly OT: Slow android app (human vs human)?

server (KGS, IGS, etc.). Thanks, Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Slightly OT: Slow android app (human vs human)?

So far it seems to work well, but I don't see a way to start new games using the app; you have to start them using the web interface to DGS, but then can play using the app. (The New Game button is for recording a game.) Thanks for all the feedback! Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake

Re: [Computer-go] # of 2x2 games

than Chess, but surely not THAT much. Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ On Dec 13, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: On 12/13/2011 07:57 PM, Peter Drake wrote: An exercise for the combinators and combinatrices out there: How many different 2x2 Go games are there? An unnamed

[Computer-go] US Go Congress

Is anyone interested in organizing a computer Go event at this year's US Go Congress? I won't be able to make it this year. Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/site/drpeterdrake/home ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http

[Computer-go] REU/RET in Oregon: Computer Science, Mathematics

: http://www.willamette.edu/cla/math/REU-RET/projects2012.html Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/site/drpeterdrake/home ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] orego-7.08 and gogui-1.4.2 - how to hook up?

Hmm. Sounds like Orego never started. Try opening the GTP shell in GoGui. Perhaps there's a useful error message there. Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/site/drpeterdrake/home On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Ray Tayek wrote: At 10:20 AM 2/10/2012, you wrote: You might, for example, use

Re: [Computer-go] citeulike reminder

Hear, hear! When it is kept up-to-date, this is an ENORMOUSLY valuable resource. Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/site/drpeterdrake/home On Apr 21, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Rémi Coulom wrote: Hi Thomas, I cc to the whole list, because that may be of interest to everybody

Re: [Computer-go] May KGS bot tournament: full-size boards

@ and .). Nick -- Nick Wedd n...@maproom.co.uk ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ Computer

Re: [Computer-go] Effect of lgrf on the playing strength agains gnugo

have not yet read this thesis. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] RAVE uses all moves in playout?

, not 3/5. BTW, I found this message in the archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/computer-go@dvandva.org/msg03973.html Disturbingly, I can't find it in my old email. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing

[Computer-go] New mailing list signups not working

I've got students trying to sign up for this mailing list. At least one of them has not received any response for several weeks; apparently the moderator has to approve these things. Does anyone know a way around this or, alternately, an appropriate way to nudge the moderator? Thanks, -- Peter

Re: [Computer-go] Mailing list problem, too

Nope, I'm using gmail and successfully receiving messages, while my student is not. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Ingo Althöfer 3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de wrote: Michael Alford wrote: On 7/10/12 10:27 AM, Peter Drake wrote: I've got students trying to sign up for this mailing list. At least one

Re: [Computer-go] Mailing list problem, too

...but this led us to the solution. The confirmation email had been classified as spam. He should be able to get on the list now. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Peter Drake dr...@lclark.edu wrote: Nope, I'm using gmail

[Computer-go] 50k-100k patterns

at anything. We now think it is more than 100 000 patterns.” http://news.csu.edu.au//director/latestnews.cfm?itemID=C712563AEEA8398B7655D520C442F510printtemplate=release -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list

Re: [Computer-go] Seki in playouts

Orego doesn't do this directly. Instead, we massing passing a possible move, but with a very low prior success rate (1 win in 10 runs). It will be chosen if all other moves lead to losses. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Michael

[Computer-go] Orego 7.13

Orego 7.13 has been posted to the usual place: https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/research/orego We're also planning to put Orego up on GitHub in the very near future. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer

[Computer-go] Fwd: [wivam-mentors2013] Willamette Valley REU-RET Consortium for Math and CS Research

for forwarding this email to interested students! -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ New Image 3.jpg___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Scoring a go board

, which is in Java: https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/research/orego The scoring methods are in the orego.core.Board class. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http

[Computer-go] Does GNU Go support integer komi?

We're trying to add this feature to Orego. We normally test against GNU Go. If tell GNU Go komi=7, will it behave properly? (I can't tell from the documentation.) -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list

[Computer-go] Oregon RET seeks high school CS teacher

forward as appropriate. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Using RAVE statistics during playout

/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] Ranked games on KGS

I've got Orego's new account Orego60 (for using our entire 60-core cluster) authorized as a ranked robot, but it's still playing free games. I logged into the account and checked the rank box. What am I missing? -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake

Re: [Computer-go] Ranked games on KGS

a bot and do not talk. gameNotes=AyaMC with 600sim rules=chinese rules.boardSize=19 rules.time=10:00+5x0:30 reconnect=t undo=f --**- Regard, Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: Peter Drake dr...@lclark.edu

Re: [Computer-go] Ranked games on KGS

I already did that. What else? On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Aja Huang ajahu...@gmail.com wrote: Probably you have to login as Orego60 and check *Rank* in the profile. Aja 2013/5/12 Peter Drake dr...@lclark.edu I can't figure out what's different. Below is my configuration file

Re: [Computer-go] Ranked games on KGS

It looks like for some reason the current version of Orego is not supporting final_status_list. That seems to be the issue. I'll get on fixing that soon. On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Peter Drake dr...@lclark.edu wrote: I already did that. What else? On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Aja

[Computer-go] kgsGtp sent kgs-game_over in middle of game

. As a workaround, we don’t really need to clear the board when we get kgs-game_over, because KGS sends clear_board at the beginning of the game.) Any help would be appreciated. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go

[Computer-go] Orego 7.14 released

Orego is now more thoroughly documented and open source on GitHub: https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/research/orego Feedback is appreciated! We hope to make a number of improvements this summer. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake

Re: [Computer-go] Orego 7.14 released

...and we just put up a version 7.15 (with better handling of dead stones at the end of the game). On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Martin Møller Skarbiniks Pedersen traxpla...@gmail.com wrote: Den 27/06/2013 22.35 skrev Peter Drake dr...@lclark.edu: Orego is now more thoroughly

[Computer-go] US Go Congress

Is anyone else here going to the US Go Congress in Tacoma next week? -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] New Orego research

We had no amazing breakthroughs this summer, but we did explore some interesting leads, which are presented in four posters found here: https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/research/orego/publications-and-presentations -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake

Re: [Computer-go] How many probes down the tree are necessary for agood bot?

consistent. This looks like 300 playouts total, not per option. In either case, my program (Orego) clearly needs MUCH heavier playouts. :-) -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org

Re: [Computer-go] RAVE-Tiling?

, “Intelligent Agents for the Game of Go,” IEEE Comput. Intell. Mag., vol. 5, no. 4, pp. 28–42, 2010. Regards, Cameron ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Peter Drake https

Re: [Computer-go] KGS bot tournament, this Sunday

...@gmail.com . Nick -- Nick Wedd n...@maproom.co.uk ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake

[Computer-go] Elo vs CLOP

A naive question: In what situations is it better to use Coulom's Elo method vs his CLOP method for setting parameters? It seems they are both techniques for optimizing a high-dimensional, noisy function. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake

Re: [Computer-go] Elo vs CLOP

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Petr Baudis pa...@ucw.cz wrote: Hi! On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:42:24AM -0800, Peter Drake wrote: A naive question: In what situations is it better to use Coulom's Elo method vs his CLOP method for setting parameters? It seems they are both techniques

Re: [Computer-go] A few questions from a beginner

require that dead stones are removed, and I can't figure out how to do that easily. Or do you just assume everything on the board is alive? One reasonable approach, which Orego uses, is to do a bunch of extra Monte Carlo playouts. If a group survives often enough, consider it alive. -- Peter

Re: [Computer-go] A few questions from a beginner

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[Computer-go] Orego rewrite coming soon

overwhelming everyone with technical details most of the discussion will take place on the Orego list. If you're interested in participating (or lurking) in these discussions, email me (dr...@lclark.edu) and I can add you to the list. -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake

Re: [Computer-go] Bitwise-parallel surround capture

this mean that you maintain the bitmaps in parallel with the other structures? -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Bitwise-parallel surround capture

; (The rest of what you describe sounds like what I'm doing, which is reassuring.) -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] Specifying Chinese rules in SGF

? They're *almost* equivalent to AGA rules, but AGA uses situational superko while Chinese uses positional superko. The difference would only come up extremely rarely, potentially making for a nasty bug. For those who don't know these terms: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Superko -- Peter Drake https

Re: [Computer-go] August KGS bot tournament: 13x13

-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to Zen!

be a good chance to check memory and time control. Regards, Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu

[Computer-go] History of program strength

://senseis.xmp.net/?KGSBotRatings (only goes back to 2007) http://www.computer-go.info/h-c/ (a bit difficult to condense into a single line graph) -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@dvandva.org http

Re: [Computer-go] History of program strength

anything conventional. Later in 2007 SlugGo beat an 8k human at the Cotsen Open running on an 8 core Xenon Mac Pro tower. I hope this helps. Cheers, David G Doshay ddos...@mac.com On 26, Sep 2014, at 4:48 PM, Peter Drake dr...@lclark.edu wrote: I'm giving a talk on computer Go (and how

[Computer-go] Definition of single-point eye

eyes. I *think* this definition works regardless of whether adjacent blocks have one or two eyes. (If filling is always illegal, it certainly requires capturing all of the surrounding stones.) Is there a horrible flaw in my definition? -- Peter Drake https://sites.google.com/a/lclark.edu/drake

Re: [Computer-go] Definition of single-point eye

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Robert Jasiek jas...@snafu.de wrote: On 24.10.2014 00:17, Peter Drake wrote: An eye is a vacant point, surrounded [orthogonally] by stones of the same color, that can only be filled by simultaneously capturing all of the surrounding stones. If it can

Re: [Computer-go] Definition of single-point eye

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Robert Jasiek jas...@snafu.de wrote: On 24.10.2014 01:19, Peter Drake wrote: Isn't A an eye here? . .xxx. .xAx. .xxx. . (Remember, I'm trying to define eye, not life). If you want to use eye in a broader sense, then every region

Re: [Computer-go] Definition of single-point eye

Well, yes, of course. But you can still have ONE eye in a group that is not alive. On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Robert Jasiek jas...@snafu.de wrote: On 24.10.2014 17:40, Peter Drake wrote: Don't you need TWO eyes to be alive [...]? It is possible for one big eye(space) to transform

Re: [Computer-go] Definition of single-point eye

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Re: [Computer-go] Definition of single-point eye

in all directions (including diagonally) by stones of one color, which is a sufficient but not a necessary criterion. On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Robert Jasiek jas...@snafu.de wrote: On 24.10.2014 21:47, Peter Drake wrote: you can still have ONE eye in a group that is not alive. This is bad

Re: [Computer-go] Aya won December 2014 KGS bot tournament

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Re: [Computer-go] Aya won December 2014 KGS bot tournament

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