Re: [CGUYS] PDF files in a Macintosh environment

2007-05-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
I will not install the Adobe Acrobat reader on my OS X Mac because of issues with bloat and unnecessary ancillary files. If you are running OS X you have already lost the war against bloat. Adding a useful, though bloated, application is not going to make any significant difference. I have not

Re: [CGUYS] The Consequences of EULA Violation

2007-05-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
Tom, I couldn't let this pass without comment: Please demonstrate. Buy some software, retail package or download, your choice. Start the installation. Decline the EULA. Return the product and try to get your money back. Let us know how that goes. This is a hot topic in the Linux community. Here

Re: [CGUYS] The Consequences of EULA Violation

2007-05-31 Thread Paul Meyer
!?!? You're kidding, right? Morality, ethics can be based on not wanting to hurt others, or it can be based on the notion that non-complicance by even a significant few can poison the well, so we should comply. AFAI can tell, contract and civil law is neither but based on the idea that

Re: [CGUYS] PDF files in a Macintosh environment

2007-05-31 Thread b_s-wilk
What exactly does cannot be coherently viewed mean in your experience ? I mean that the PDF files are garbled. Incoherent. Alpha numeric characters, but in a form that is nonsense. Graphic files are reproduced just fine, but not the text. This is rare, but happens nonetheless. I

Re: [CGUYS] The Consequences of EULA Violation

2007-05-31 Thread Robert
I am reluctant to enter into this discussion, since I am conflicted about the issues. Were I 40 years younger, I would completely agree with Tom Piwowar that we all need to be honest as well as obeying the law -- all the stuff taught in Civics course in High School (never mind that my high

Re: [CGUYS] PDF files in a Macintosh environment

2007-05-31 Thread Steve Rigby
On May 31, 2007, at 8:46 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: I don't like Adobe Reader either. Instead of using Adobe Reader, do use have the SchubertIt PDF plugin to view PDFs in a browser? That works pretty well too, and you can view and print from it. http://schubertit.com/ Thanks for the tip on