[crux-devel] Retiring

2012-06-13 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, as you know I haven't made significant contributions to CRUX in quite some time. Sadly I don't see this changing in the near future so I made up my mind and decided to retire from CRUX development. I just don't have the extra time and energy to pour into CRUX these days. My apologies for

Re: [crux-devel] [ports] pkg-config, new dependency to glib

2011-05-22 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2011-05-16 19:19]: Hi, the latest pkg-config, version 0.26, no longer ships with a bundled glib but depends on a system glib. That means core/pkg-config would depend on opt/glib, which is of course not acceptable. [...] b) move glib to core. I moved glib from opt to core

[crux-devel] Created 2.7 branches

2010-06-02 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, FYI, I have created the 2.7 branches for core.git and opt.git today. Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

Re: [crux-devel] Configure script speedup due to dash for /bin/sh

2010-05-29 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2010-05-28 11:02]: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:37:17AM +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:59:12PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: Hi, I made /bin/sh point to dash instead of bash and measure how this change speeds up a few randomly picked configure

Re: [crux-devel] Configure script speedup due to dash for /bin/sh

2010-05-25 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Thomas Penteker [2010-05-24 14:54]: * Tilman Sauerbeck (til...@crux.nu) wrote: (...) I think your findings might be affected by caching, did you take that into consideration? I removed the extracted directory each time before doing another configure run. That should have taken care

[crux-devel] Configure script speedup due to dash for /bin/sh

2010-05-24 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, I made /bin/sh point to dash instead of bash and measure how this change speeds up a few randomly picked configure scripts. The speedup achieved is: pkg-config: 2% libarchive: 3% llvm:7% gcc:24% coreutils: 17% openssh: 9% htop: 13% Method used: cd

Re: [crux-devel] Configure script speedup due to dash for /bin/sh

2010-05-24 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Alan [2010-05-24 20:55]: On Monday 24 May 2010 7:59:12 pm Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: Hi, I made /bin/sh point to dash instead of bash and measure how this change speeds up a few randomly picked configure scripts. The speedup achieved is: pkg-config: 2% libarchive: 3% llvm

Re: [crux-devel] prt-get 5.17 uploaded

2010-05-24 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Johannes Winkelmann [2010-05-24 15:57]: Hello Johannes, As discussed in flysprax #581, I've uploaded a new version of prt-get supporting the PKGMK_COMPRESSION_MODE option. Thanks for jumping right in when we noticed we needed to touch prt-get. And thanks for providing a sane implementation

[crux-devel] Replacing tftpd for 2.7?

2010-05-24 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, currently, CRUX comes with a TFTP daemon from the iputils package. The manpage says: It is distributed with iputils mostly as good demo of an interesting feature (MSG_CONFIRM) allowing to boot long images by dumb clients not answering ARP requests until they are finally booted. However,

[crux-devel] Compression mode patch

2010-05-16 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, Juergen came up with a patch that lets users choose what compression scheme to use for packages created by pkgmk. Supported compression algorithms are gzip, bzip2 and xz. I now extended the patch with some text for the pkgmk.conf manpage and renamed PKGMK_COMPRESS_EXT to PKGMK_COMPRESS_MODE

Re: [crux-devel] Proposed: IRC Meeting for 2.7 on 2010-05-04

2010-05-04 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
JJ Asghar [2010-04-27 10:37]: Hi JJ, Traditionally the meetings have been on Tuesdays at 20.00 CET. I I think getting together on IRC periodically makes much sense now that we're getting started on merging stuff for 2.7. propose pushing it back about an hour to 21.00 2010-05-04 CET. I'd

Re: [crux-devel] Firefox/xulrunner maintainership

2009-11-17 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Fredrik Rinnestam [2009-11-13 23:05]: The other day i noticed that Tilman seemed a bit sick of maintaining firefox :) So I hereby declare my interest in taking over maintainership of those firefox-related (firefox,xulrunner,nss,nspr) ports. Best CRUX related news for me ever ;D I talked

Re: [crux-devel] opt-Maintainer application

2009-09-14 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Thomas Penteker [2009-09-11 18:58]: some time ago (sorry) jue asked if I wanted to step in and partially fill the gap that jw left. I'd be happy to do so. What's your opinion about this? Nice, thanks. I'll give you write access in a second. Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the

[crux-devel] [ANN] CRUX 2.6-test2

2009-07-25 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, we are pleased to announce the third test release of the upcoming CRUX 2.5 release. Please give it a try and report any problems you might find. Thanks, Tilman, for the CRUX team. [1] http://crux.nu/files/pre-releases/crux-2.6-test2.iso

Re: [crux-devel] [PATCH] Do not attempt to build a package if the resulting file can't be written.

2009-07-15 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Antti Nykänen [2009-06-24 15:58]: Hi On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Juergen Daubert j...@jue.li wrote: thanks for the patch, but I think that it will not work as expected because we 'exit 1' too if $TARGET doesn't exist. Attached another attempt which covers the important points of

Re: [crux-devel] libarchive, xz and pkgutils

2009-06-17 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Mark Rosenstand [2009-06-16 13:19]: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Juergen Daubertj...@jue.li wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 01:23:37PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: Hi Tilman, [...] There's two possible solutions for this: a) link to liblzma (XZ!) too. This will increase

[crux-devel] libarchive, xz and pkgutils

2009-06-14 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, CRUX 2.6 will ship with XZ (http://tukaani.org/xz/) in core. That package implements the XZ compression algorithm, which is the successor to LZMA. I believe that LZMA isn't in use in the free software world anymore, so I will only talk about XZ here. To extract an xz'ed tarball, you can do as

Re: [crux-devel] libarchive, xz and pkgutils

2009-06-14 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Tilman Sauerbeck [2009-06-14 13:23]: a) link to liblzma (XZ!) too. This will increase the size of our pkgadd binary since now a few more object files from liblzma.a will be included. Some numbers: $ size pkgadd-without-xz textdata bss dec hex filename 1369326

[crux-devel] Ship core fonts on the 2.6 iso?

2009-05-10 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, Juergen and me have begun some preparations for the 2.6 release (there's a todo list in the wiki at http://crux.nu/Wiki/TODO26). For our xorg ports, I've removed a couple of ancient modules that aren't in use anymore. I'm also considering shipping xorg without any core font packages (ie, drop

[crux-devel] Simones ports -- pick your favourites

2009-01-07 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi guys, I think we should get going and put Simone's ports back in a maintained state ;D I've put the list of ports that are looking for a new maintainer up here: http://crux.nu/Wiki/OrphanedPorts I believe Jose already expressed interest in picking up the Subversion related ports (ie neon and

Re: [crux-devel] My status

2008-12-21 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Simon Gloßner [2008-12-19 17:04]: Hi Simon, I don't want to retire from the project, as it's possible that my situation will change in the future. At the weekends and at semester breaks I will try to keep my ports up to date and work at the portdb. But if there are any important updates

Re: [crux-devel] CRUX 2.5-rc2

2008-12-15 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Ricardo Oliveira [2008-12-15 09:26]: [...] make menuconfig results in the following error: scripts/basic/fixdep.c: In function 'is_defined_config': scripts/basic/fixdep.c:399: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if

[crux-devel] FOSDEM 2009

2008-12-10 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, is anyone of you going to be at FOSDEM (http://fosdem.org) next year? I'll most likely be there :) Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet

[crux-devel] Please update your ports in the 2.5 trees

2008-12-09 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi guys, we're quite happy with how CRUX 2.5-rc1 turned out and would like to release the final soonish. So, please update your ports in the various ports trees for 2.5. In particular, a bunch of perl and python ports need a footprint fix for the new perl/python releases. Programs written in C++

[crux-devel] ANN: CRUX 2.5-test3

2008-11-06 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, we are pleased to announce the third test release of the upcoming CRUX 2.5 release. Please give it a try and report any problems you might find. Thanks, Tilman, for the CRUX team. [1] http://crux.nu/~jue/tmp/crux-2.5-test3.iso http://crux.nu/~jue/tmp/crux-2.5-test3.md5

Re: [crux-devel] CRUX 2.5: replace slocate by mlocate

2008-10-28 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2008-10-28 12:50]: [...] if you are using the current version of pkgmk you have to download the source-file by hand, because of a failed certificate check, pkgmk in git already has a fix for that [4]. A new pkgutils release for 2.5 would be nice. Oops, I forgot that there

[crux-devel] Proposed git-rsync script updates

2008-10-03 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi all, some months ago, I was frustrated with our git_to_httpup script. That script is run every 5 minutes and exports our ports repositories' contents to ~crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy directory structure. Which looks like this: git-to-rsync-working-copy |---crux-2.4 |---core |---

[crux-devel] 2.5 preparations

2008-09-16 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, I've branched off core.git for 2.5, and imported a few of Juergen's new and updated ports etc. There's also a wiki page that lists the remaining tasks for 2.5, see http://crux.nu/Wiki/TODO25. That page will probably grow a bit more; it's certainly not the definitive list yet. Regards, Tilman

Re: [crux-devel] [RFC] use GNU inetutils for core-ports inetd, netkit-ftp, netkit-telnet

2008-09-09 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2008-09-09 11:50]: Hi, 1. Keep names as they are 2. Keep inetd, rename netkit-ftp to inetutils-ftp and netkit-telnet to inetutils-telnet 3. Keep inetd, rename netkit-ftp to ftp and netkit-telnet to telnet 4. Rename all to inetutils-{inetd,ftp,telnet} 5. Replace

Re: [crux-devel] strange request

2008-08-28 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Lucas Hazel [2008-08-28 21:35]: Hi, So here's the deal. I'm applying for a new job and I need one more reference. I have my boss, and one of my clients who I do a lot of work for. However, it's one of those jobs where you have to establish that you are a team player. Unfortunately, in real

Re: [crux-devel] Sourceforge / ck4up

2008-08-24 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2008-08-24 11:16]: [...] To get the same as before we have to do something like: @SF@ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id= @SFpkg@ package_id= atermmd5 @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] @TAR@ Thanks, works nicely for me. I think.

Re: [crux-devel] Request for maintainer

2008-08-02 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Tim Biermann [2008-08-02 01:42]: On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 09:05:11AM +1000, Lucas Hazel wrote: No one has put up their hand for the nvidia port, apparently the version in ports is no longer available. I don't have an i686 with an nvidia card in it. I have some old cards at work I

Re: [crux-devel] Request for maintainer

2008-08-02 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Tim Biermann [2008-08-02 20:42]: On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 12:08:40PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: Is this a full-fledged opt maintainer application? :) Regards, Tilman Hi Tilman, why not? If you guys need me, and you think I can handle some ports, count me in. Cool. I'll

Re: [crux-devel] opt maintainer application

2008-07-22 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Jose V Beneyto [2008-07-17 20:35]: I'd like to propose you my application to opt. I think that I have enough knowledgements for being involved on, also I'm consider to myself collaborative, that's for what I honestly think I could work in the right way. Alright, it took us quite some

Re: [crux-devel] Locale generation, again

2008-07-21 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2008-07-21 09:46]: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:41:42PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: Hi, this has been brought up a couple of times already, but we never thought it was a big enough issue. Here it goes again: /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive is huge. With every glibc

[crux-devel] Locale generation, again

2008-07-20 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, this has been brought up a couple of times already, but we never thought it was a big enough issue. Here it goes again: /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive is huge. With every glibc release it's growing some more. On this x86_64 system which runs glibc 2.7, locale-archive is 75 MB. That's just

Re: [crux-devel] Casual meeting reminder #3

2008-07-08 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Johannes Winkelmann [2008-07-08 08:16]: As there have been no comments on this following my last mail, I suggest we start only at 20 CEST, and - as always - stay there till late at night :-) Yay for 20 CEST :) Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally

Re: [crux-devel] Specifying architecture in port

2008-06-29 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Lucas Hazel [2008-06-27 09:40]: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:30:47 +0200 Juergen Daubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I'd not call the file .arch but find a better name that reflects more what it really does, pulling in different settings to build the port. It should be read after

Re: [crux-devel] More orphans

2008-06-26 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Lucas Hazel [2008-06-24 21:05]: Just found these orphaned ports in opt: $ grep #.*Maintainer.*Matt Housh */Pkgfile | cut -d/ -f1 Updated: $ grep #.*Maintainer.*Matt Housh */Pkgfile | cut -d/ -f1 $ Hurray! So I think we just need to find a poor soul to take nvidia, right? Any volunteers?

Re: [crux-devel] 64-bit test run

2008-06-21 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Bartek Palmowski [2008-06-21 02:04]: crux64 looks promissing, and I'd me more than happy if I could help with project. I already have done some initial testing and must say crux for 64 bit processors is in demand. If I may suggest an idea to add variable to pkgmk.conf like ie.

Re: [crux-devel] 64-bit test run

2008-06-20 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Johannes Winkelmann [2008-06-16 09:44]: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:35:26 +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote: [...] In other words, there won't be an automatic way to merge changes, however in most situations updates should be straight forward anyway, and for the rest I'd suggest to write a

Re: [crux-devel] 64-bit test run

2008-06-19 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Lucas Hazel [2008-06-19 01:42]: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:06:42 +0200 Tilman Sauerbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'd like to achieve omg-awesome portability (I care much more about other architectures than operating systems though). Hopefully the scheme we have in mind will allow

Re: [crux-devel] 64-bit test run

2008-06-18 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Lucas Hazel [2008-06-18 12:35]: On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:27:37 +0200 Tilman Sauerbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hannes Mayer [2008-06-17 16:20]: Hi Hannes, A pure 64Bit version or 32 and 64 multilib? The first will be very easy. I working with my crux 64bit Version since over

Re: [crux-devel] 64-bit test run

2008-06-17 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hannes Mayer [2008-06-17 16:20]: Hi Hannes, A pure 64Bit version or 32 and 64 multilib? The first will be very easy. I working with my crux 64bit Version since over one year. I have only 30 new / different ports. Just get them if you like. http://ecarux.de/crux86_64/ At the moment it looks

Re: [crux-devel] pkgmk source verification is not always needed

2008-06-07 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Jose V Beneyto [2008-06-07 02:37]: I keep my old laptop by installing packages manually instead of building it, I ear about pkg-get but in the practice I can do whatever it does by using prt-get and configuring PKGMK_PACKAGE_DIR variable in pkgmk.conf. However after playing a bit, see

Re: [crux-devel] pkgutils, pkgmk, build from existing work patch

2008-05-23 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Bartek Palmowski [2008-05-23 09:07]: Johannes Winkelmann wrote: //So you'd end up with a package you can't reproduce after the 'work' is removed, because you didn't make patches from your changes. Seems like a major step back, and nothing that should be actively encouraged. Pkgfile is the

Re: [crux-devel] pkgutils, pkgmk, build from existing work patch

2008-05-23 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2008-05-23 09:55]: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:06:30AM +1000, Lucas Hazel wrote: [...] 1 - http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.crux.general/2940 I submitted that patch almost a year ago, and it wasn't accepted. So I guess core didn't think it's

Re: [crux-devel] Precompiled headers and distributed compilation

2008-05-19 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Danny Rawlins [2008-05-19 13:42]: area that interests me. I would guard my ports but it seems I'll lose some ports like mpfr later since gcc will require it in later versions. That seems to be a huge problem for you, which I really don't understand. What's the deal about not maintaining one of

Re: [crux-devel] +1 for Rotwang to join contrib

2008-05-12 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Johannes Winkelmann [2008-05-12 09:41]: Hi Danny, On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:05:28 +1000, Danny Rawlins wrote: +1 for Rotwang to join contrib even thouh i've said it a number of times in irc. I think you should only vote on crux-contrib, and send a mail to this list once a consensus has

Re: [crux-devel] +1 for Rotwang to join contrib

2008-05-12 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Danny Rawlins [2008-05-12 18:03]: Johannes Winkelmann wrote: Hi Danny, On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:05:28 +1000, Danny Rawlins wrote: +1 for Rotwang to join contrib even thouh i've said it a number of times in irc. I think you should only vote on crux-contrib, and send a

Re: [crux-devel] +1 for Rotwang to join contrib

2008-05-12 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Danny Rawlins [2008-05-12 18:13]: Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: Danny Rawlins [2008-05-12 18:03]: Johannes Winkelmann wrote: Hi Danny, On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:05:28 +1000, Danny Rawlins wrote: +1 for Rotwang to join contrib even thouh i've said it a number

Re: [crux-devel] Application

2008-05-10 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Johannes Winkelmann [2008-05-09 15:10]: Hi, As tilman already wrote on crux@ I'll be trying to help with some bug triaging, and I'd like to apply to become a member again to help implementing some of the issues reported myself. In addition to flyspray, I'd mainly like to help with things

Re: [crux-devel] git ports(8) driver

2008-05-06 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Johannes Winkelmann [2008-05-06 13:00]: Hi Richard, On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 09:55:10 +0200, Richard Pöttler wrote: Hi, [...] So I wrote a git driver for ports (attached) and some example configuration files for the namenlos and opt repositories (also attached). What do you

Re: [crux-devel] cdrkit vs. cdrtools

2008-05-05 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Antti Nykänen [2008-05-03 23:32]: It's been some time now since the possibility of migrating to cdrkit from cdrtools was brought up by Johannes Winkelmann on crux-devel[1]. I made a port back then and have been using it since, burning piles of CD's and DVD's without problems. Putting it

[crux-devel] Playing with the git-rsync scripts...

2008-05-05 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, I'm currently playing with the git-rsync scripts on crux.nu. The current script is run as a cronjob every 5 minutes, exporting all of the branches of all of the repos. The script doesn't check whether there's actually new commits available. What I'm playing with is moving that script to the

[crux-devel] [RFC] pkgmk: multiple make jobs by default?

2008-05-02 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, the idea to put export MAKEFLAGS=-j2 in pkgutils' pkgmk.conf has been around for a while. Pros: o Slightly faster builds even on single core machines o Packagers will find out immediately whether a port needs -j 1 or not. No more surprises and delayed fixups. I cannot think

Re: [crux-devel] [RFC] pkgmk: multiple make jobs by default?

2008-05-02 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Johannes Winkelmann [2008-05-02 11:30]: Hi Tilman On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 11:20:06 +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: Hi, [...] Any objections to putting export MAKEFLAGS=-j2 in pkgmk.conf by default? No objection per se, but remarks/questions: 1. When introducing this, we should

Re: [crux-devel] prt-get nicetohave

2008-05-01 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2008-05-01 18:52]: On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 04:52:29PM +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote: Hi, On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 15:45:32 +0200, Jose V Beneyto wrote: Johannes Winkelmann wrote: Is there a formal definition of what the Nice to have field should contain? [...]

Re: [crux-devel] [RFC] Bumping gcc to 4.2.3

2008-03-20 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Tilman Sauerbeck [2008-03-19 17:14]: I'd like to bump core/gcc to 4.2.3. Please test the attached port and report any problems. I've got a number of success reports on IRC and by personal mail, so I updated the port. Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people

[crux-devel] [RFC] Bumping gcc to 4.2.3

2008-03-19 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, I'd like to bump core/gcc to 4.2.3. Please test the attached port and report any problems. Thanks, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in

[crux-devel] IRC meeting

2008-01-27 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, I'd like to propose to have an IRC meeting next week. Juergen and me believe that we need to discuss how to strengthen the CRUX development team again now that Matt has left. Does Wednesday, 2007-01-30, 20:00 CET work? Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people

Re: [crux-devel] Retirement from CRUX development

2008-01-26 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Matt Housh [2008-01-24 09:52]: Sad to say but I no longer have the time and the inclination to continue as a CRUX developer. It's been quite an enjoyable project for quite a while but I find lately that time concerns aside, my enjoyment and energy for it are waning. I will likely continue

[crux-devel] Install /usr/bin/bsdtar with core/libarchive?

2007-12-15 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, I'd like to make the core/libarchive port install /usr/bin/bsdtar. I think I once did that months ago, but then decided it wasn't the proper place, and made a bsdtar port for my personal repo. But maintaining two ports for the same source tarball is annoying, and bsdtar is actually too good

Re: [crux-devel] revdep output

2007-12-12 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
pitillo [2007-12-05 08:26]: Hi, I am using the output of revdep without parms (at man page it's shown), like this: prt-get update -fr `revdep` I checked the output and source of revdep and it is looking for the pattern not found with ldd. There are some cases, for example, firefox, wich

Re: [crux-devel] Suggestion to replace util-linux

2007-12-04 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2007-11-30 09:49]: On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 09:50:16PM +0100, Mustafa Oezkan wrote: i suggest to replace util-linux in favour for [1]util-linux-ng. Util-linux is unmaintained since years. Thanks for your sugesstion. I moved this thread to crux-devel for further

[crux-devel] openssl 0.9.8f breaks binary compatibility

2007-10-12 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, openssl 0.9.8f has been released and includes fixes for the two vulnerabilities that we patched so far. The downside is that 0.9.8f breaks binary compatibility. And since openssl is in core, we don't list it as a dependency anywhere, so revdep fails. Did this situation come up before? I

Re: [crux-devel] openssl 0.9.8f breaks binary compatibility

2007-10-12 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Tilman Sauerbeck [2007-10-12 10:46]: The downside is that 0.9.8f breaks binary compatibility. And since openssl is in core, we don't list it as a dependency anywhere, so revdep fails. Disregard that, I wasn't recalling our guidelines for listing dependencies correctly (again) :/ I pushed

Re: [crux-devel] IRC Meeting

2007-10-06 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Simone Rota [2007-10-06 15:39]: I propose a IRC meeting next week to discuss about the 2.4 release and other CRUX related topics (as ususal, bring yours!). Suggested date/time: Tue, Oct 9, 20:00 CEST Totally accepted, I've wanted to suggest a meeting myself for some days now. Regards,

Re: [crux-devel] New CRUX release

2007-09-09 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2007-09-09 18:54]: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 08:18:29PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: - gcc 4.2.1 I'm not sure on this one. The list of serious regression bugs for 4.2.1 contains stuff like http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi

Re: [crux-devel] New CRUX release

2007-08-29 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: To initiate the whole thing I've created updated ports of those stuff, all of them available from my private httpup-repo [1] for now: - gcc 4.2.1 - glibc 2.6.1 with kernel headers 2.6.22 - binutils 2.18.50 I've branched core.git off for 2.4:

Re: [crux-devel] New CRUX release

2007-08-29 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Clemens Koller [2007-08-29 00:17]: Tilman Sauerbeck schrieb: Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: - gcc 4.2.1 I'm not sure on this one. The list of serious regression bugs for 4.2.1 contains stuff like http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32544 which makes me wonder how

Re: [crux-devel] New CRUX release

2007-08-28 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: - gcc 4.2.1 I'm not sure on this one. The list of serious regression bugs for 4.2.1 contains stuff like http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32544 which makes me wonder how stable gcc 4.2.1 really is :/ Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the

Re: [crux-devel] New CRUX release

2007-08-22 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
treach [2007-08-22 17:39]: Another, more debatable point is the use of a more standard adherent shell as the default, with the removal of bashisms from the rc scripts as an addon. I've used dash quite successfully in the past for this, which is also used by debian/*buntu. It's a lot faster

Re: [crux-devel] New CRUX release

2007-08-20 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it might be a good idea to think about a new one. Somewhat related: I'd like to build xorg/xorg-server without Xprint support starting with the next CRUX release. Reasons: it sucks, virtually

Re: [crux-devel] New CRUX release

2007-08-18 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Simone Rota [2007-08-17 22:09]: Full UTF-8 support comes out of my mind (see our tracker); I lack some knowledge on this matter so I'm not sure if some config option is enough or rather we have to ensure all the ports supports UTF-8 where available. This isn't as straight forward as I had

Re: [crux-devel] New CRUX release

2007-08-17 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: Hi Juergen, our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it might be a good idea to think about a new one. I had this on my list for a few weeks now, too. Question is how to proceed, I think we have the options to make a update-only

Re: [crux-devel] pkgutils 6

2007-08-12 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Anton Vorontsov [2007-08-12 02:35]: On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 05:10:12PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: Tilman Sauerbeck [2007-08-09 01:16]: over the last few days I have started working on the next major incarnation of pkgutils, version 6. I was bored earlier today and compared

Re: [crux-devel] pkgutils 6

2007-08-11 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Tilman Sauerbeck [2007-08-09 01:16]: over the last few days I have started working on the next major incarnation of pkgutils, version 6. I was bored earlier today and compared the run times and memory usage of pkginfo -i from pkgutils-c 1.5 and the tip of the pkgutils6 branch. I only ran each

[crux-devel] Do contributors need a real name?

2007-08-09 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, one of the few things that I remember about the ancient CLC days was that the rules had an item like this: Contributors need a real name. [...] I couldn't find anything about this in the wiki, so my question is whether we still believe that contributors (contrib users and core/opt

[crux-devel] pkgutils 6

2007-08-08 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi guys, over the last few days I have started working on the next major incarnation of pkgutils, version 6. All of the package/archive and database handling has been moved into a library (atm called libpkgutils), which is used by our small trio of apps, pkg{info,add,rm}. As we had planned for a

Re: [crux-devel] location of iso.git

2007-05-12 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Mark Rosenstand [2007-05-12 03:16]: My local copy of git://crux.nu/system/iso.git is very outdated and only has a master branch (at 2.1), while http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=system/iso.git;a=summary seems to have a 2.3 branch and a lot of activity. Is the gitweb page showing a different

Re: [crux-devel] pkgutils: Finalizing the libarchive move

2007-04-18 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Simone Rota [2007-04-18 03:23]: On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:40:06PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: I'd like to finalize the move of pkgutils to libarchive, and make another pkgutils release soonish. Great, thank you very much for your work so far. Apologizes for not having tested

[crux-devel] Wiki: Setting up Handbook_2_4

2007-03-24 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi guys, I just wanted to merge treach's changes to the handbook (he reworked the why crux? paragraph nicely -- http://hem.bredband.net/treach/Why.txt), but I'm unsure about how to set up the Handbook_2_4 Wiki pages. Do I need to copypaste the ~5 sections of the handbook manually? Or is there

Re: [crux-devel] CRUX 2.3-rc1

2007-03-01 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Till Biedermann [2007-03-02 00:03]: I have tested an upgrade on my notebook (hp omnibook 6100), which was still running CRUX 2.1. :-) It works so far, except an udev-related problem: The udev-package was not installed by the setup script, so i had to install it manually. I think the

Re: [crux-devel] Miscellaneus notes for CRUX 2.3 ports

2007-01-28 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Till Biedermann [2007-01-27 15:23]: Hi Till, Simone Rota wrote: - Johannes (opt) ports need a new maintainer: I'll likely adopt the following: neon, subversion, polymer, xxdiff, licq. Is there a list of unmaintained ports? Unmaintained ports just get deleted these days. I don't

[crux-devel] libarchive-fied pkgutils

2006-11-26 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi guys, I'd like to ask for testers of pkgutils's master branch, which uses libarchive rather than libtar now. Get libarchive from contrib, and please let me know if you notice any oddities or problems. I've been running it for some weeks now without any trouble. If it works well for anyone,

Re: [crux-devel] status report for 2.3

2006-11-19 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2006-11-19 14:27]: as you might have already seen, I've commited some updates for core-ports to our 2.3 branch. Did you forget to push these commits? They don't show up here ;) Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why

Re: [crux-devel] status report for 2.3

2006-11-19 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2006-11-19 15:05]: On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 02:41:13PM +0100, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: Juergen Daubert [2006-11-19 14:27]: as you might have already seen, I've commited some updates for core-ports to our 2.3 branch. Did you forget to push these commits? They don't

[crux-devel] 2.3 branching

2006-11-15 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, I just created 2.3 branches in both core.git and opt.git. Please add the following line to the respective .git/remotes/origin files to get that new branch: Pull: refs/heads/2.3:refs/heads/2.3 Feel free to commit 2.3 material to these branches. I already removed the x11 and mesa3d ports

Re: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results

2006-10-10 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Mark Rosenstand [2006-10-10 17:37]: On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 10:32 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ERROR opt/jack . header not found: URL ERROR opt/libsndfile ... header not found: URL ERROR opt/madwifi .. header not found: URL I thought these were

Re: [crux-devel] Motion: URL/Description removal

2006-10-10 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Anton [2006-10-10 03:59]: I'm about URL and Description Pkgfile's fields removal. Reason: bloat. Seems quite silly to me, sorry. Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the

Re: [crux-devel] pkgutils: INSTALL rule support

2006-10-01 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Tilman Sauerbeck [2006-08-29 22:38]: Tilman Sauerbeck [2006-08-25 15:56]: [...] The documentation hasn't been updated yet, but if anyone wants to try I attached a patch to the pkgadd man page. Do you think this is good enough? Committed (with minor tweaking). I think the INSTALL stuff

Re: [crux-devel] Mirror for gnu stuff

2006-09-23 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2006-09-23 10:22]: ATM we are using mirrors.sunsite.dk for most of our core GNU ports. Since some days the mirror and our ports are broken again, I found a similar problem 2 months ago. If there are no objections I'll change the ports to use ftp.gnu.org, which seems fast

Re: [crux-devel] RFC: New fontconfig release

2006-09-17 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Mark Rosenstand [2006-09-17 00:33]: On Sat, 2006-09-16 at 13:33 +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: fontconfig's configuration scheme has been extended. Instead of putting all kinds of settings into local.conf, fontconfig how ships with a set of configuration files (/etc/fonts/conf.avail

Re: [crux-devel] [PROPOSAL] - Provide svn access on crux.nu for contrib

2006-09-15 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Johannes Winkelmann [2006-09-15 08:40]: On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 21:49:07 +0200, Simone Rota wrote: I discussed this proposal privately or on irc with different people, I'll try to formalize it here. I think it would be nice to offer access to a dedicated svn repository on crux.nu to

Re: [crux-devel] [PROPOSAL] - Provide svn access on crux.nu for contrib

2006-09-15 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Mark Rosenstand [2006-09-15 15:33]: On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 12:03 +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote: On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 11:53:06 +0200, Mark Rosenstand wrote: [...] Agreed, but the new contrib sounds very much like most of the current opt. I disagree. 'contrib' stands for ports

Re: [crux-devel] Reorganization, part 2

2006-08-27 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Simone Rota [2006-08-27 17:58]: On 08/27/06 14:39 Johannes Winkelmann wrote: That said, we need coaches for the 'ports' team as well as for the 'core' team. CRUX maintainers, please submit your nominations :-). Exchanging the favour, I nominate Johannes for the core team leader role,

[crux-devel] autoconf mandir patch

2006-08-20 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Hi, when I updated autoconf to 2.60 some weeks ago, Matt noticed that it broke grub (in grub's Pkgfile, we regenerate configure because we need to patch configure.in). With autoconf 2.60, the default mandir changed from /usr/man to /usr/share/man. We decided to patch autoconf to revert this

Re: [crux-devel] ANN: portverify

2006-08-01 Thread Tilman Sauerbeck
Juergen Daubert [2006-07-24 18:57]: - junk files like perllocal.pod WARN core/autoconf ... junk file found: usr/share/autoconf/INSTALL WARN core/automake ... junk file found: usr/share/automake-1.9/COPYING WARN core/automake ... junk file found: usr/share/automake-1.9/INSTALL Maybe