Re: [Cryptography] Crypto Standards v.s. Engineering habits - Was: NIST about to weaken SHA3?

2013-10-12 Thread James A. Donald
On 2013-10-11 15:48, ianG wrote: Right now we've got a TCP startup, and a TLS startup. It's pretty messy. Adding another startup inside isn't likely to gain popularity. The problem is that layering creates round trips, and as cpus get ever faster, and pipes ever fatter, round trips become a

Re: [Cryptography] SSH small RSA public exponent

2013-10-12 Thread Peter Gutmann
Tim Hudson t...@cryptsoft.com writes: Does anyone recollect the history behind and the implications of the (open) SSH choice of 35 as a hard-wired public exponent? /* OpenSSH versions up to 5.4 (released in 2010) hardcoded e = 35, which is both a suboptimal exponent (it's less efficient that

Re: [Cryptography] Key stretching

2013-10-12 Thread William Allen Simpson
On 10/11/13 7:34 PM, Peter Gutmann wrote: Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com writes: Quick question, anyone got a good scheme for key stretching? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hkdfl=1 Yeah, that's a weaker simplification of the method I've always advocated, stopping the hash function before the

Re: [Cryptography] Crypto Standards v.s. Engineering habits - Was: NIST about to weaken SHA3?

2013-10-12 Thread Ben Laurie
On 10 October 2013 17:06, John Kelsey crypto@gmail.com wrote: Just thinking out loud The administrative complexity of a cryptosystem is overwhelmingly in key management and identity management and all the rest of that stuff. So imagine that we have a widely-used inner-level

Re: [Cryptography] Crypto Standards v.s. Engineering habits - Was: NIST about to weaken SHA3?

2013-10-12 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Oct 11, 2013, at 11:09 PM, James A. Donald wrote: Right now we've got a TCP startup, and a TLS startup. It's pretty messy. Adding another startup inside isn't likely to gain popularity. The problem is that layering creates round trips, and as cpus get ever faster, and pipes ever

Re: [Cryptography] PGP Key Signing parties

2013-10-12 Thread Stephen Farrell
If someone wants to try organise a pgp key signing party at the Vancouver IETF next month let me know and I can organise a room/time. That's tended not to happen since Ted and Jeff don't come along but we could re-start 'em if there's interest. S. ___

[Cryptography] Plug for crypto.stackexchange.com

2013-10-12 Thread David Wagner
I've noticed quite a few questions on this list recently of the form How do I do X? What is the right cryptographic primitive for goal X? etc. I'd like to plug the following site: http://crypto.stackexchange.com/ Cryptography Stack Exchange It is an excellent place to post questions like that

Re: [Cryptography] Crypto Standards v.s. Engineering habits - Was: NIST about to weaken SHA3?

2013-10-12 Thread John Kelsey
On Oct 12, 2013, at 6:51 AM, Ben Laurie b...@links.org wrote: ... AIUI, you're trying to make it so that only active attacks work on the combined protocol, whereas passive attacks might work on the outer protocol. In order to achieve this, you assume that your proposed inner protocol is not

Re: [Cryptography] PGP Key Signing parties

2013-10-12 Thread Joshua Marpet
I am one of the organizers of Security BSides Delaware, otherwise known as BSidesDE. We have already discussed having a key signing party, but if there is any interest, I'd love for any of you to be there, and potentially run it. Check out bsidesdelaware.com for dates, locations, and such. It's