Doesn't look very complete yet. And they have gone to best compliance is
standard, you wont have to put the Meta tag in to get standards
compliance. Beware the urls will probably wrap.
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/05/internet-explorer-8-beta-1-for-developers-now-available.aspx
On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:32 PM, Alan Gresley wrote:
http://dev.l-c-n.com/CSS3-selectors/browser-support.php
You mentioned about grouped selectors:
IE Mac: it incorrectly recognizes a group that contains selectors
or tokens that it does not support.
e.g
h4~p, h5 {color: blue;
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is red in IE8
/*\*//*/
body {background:red !important}
/**/
http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/
IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.
Yes, I see the same thing.
Simply it
Same for me unfortunalty... goes to show why you should be careful using
hacks..
Simon Tiplady
W: www.stiplady.net
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To: css
Subject: [css-d] IE8 beta1
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Breaks lots of my pages. Hope they fix the parser in next beta.
I'll file the bug to the new css-d wiki IE8 page then.
A couple of other things that I noticed at a very quick look:
1) at least in some cases br
This is red in IE8
/*\*//*/
body {background:red !important}
/**/
http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/
IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.
tested with IE8 VPC image on XP 2
could someone please confirm?
Ingo
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Michael, did you download the beta? Any thoughts?
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Doesn't look very complete yet. And they have gone to best compliance is
standard, you wont have to put the Meta tag in to get standards
compliance. Beware the urls will probably wrap.
http://blogs.msdn
Bruno Fassino wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This is red in IE8
/*\*//*/ body {background:red !important} /**/
http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/
IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.
Yes, I see the
On Thu, March 6, 2008 10:10 am, Ingo Chao wrote:
I'll file the bug to the new css-d wiki IE8 page then.
Better still, use the resources Microsoft have provided for developers to
give them feedback on the beta:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/05/ie8-beta-feedback.aspx
Probably a more
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Betreff: [css-d] Non-image list-style-type coloring?
I don't see a CSS2 way to apply a color to JUST
Alex,
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE8
Is this a comprehensive IE8 page? Or, is it meant only for IE8 Beta? Please
clarify these things on that page.
Just to pick a nit... you ought to make any heading reference of IE8 to
clearly state that we're dealing with the IE8 beta. You know
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE8
Is this a comprehensive IE8 page? Or, is it meant only for IE8 Beta? Please
clarify these things on that page.
It's meant to be comprehensive, ie from gestation to birth (and on to
death?) of IE8, betas, release candidates, finals and all. Take a
look
At 10:28 AM + 3/6/08, Nick Fitzsimons wrote:
Better still, use the resources Microsoft have provided for developers to
give them feedback on the beta:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/05/ie8-beta-feedback.aspx
Probably a more reliable way of communicating with them than expecting
At 7:51 PM -0500 3/5/08, Rob Emenecker wrote:
To which I asked him if he went around to all of the end-user's offices and
created calibrations for their monitors so that they were seeing his work
as it should be seen? He looked at me like I had sprouted a second head,
and was clearly perturbed by
Ingo Chao wrote:
Bruno Fassino wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ingo Chao [EMAIL-REMOVED]
wrote:
This is red in IE8
/*\*//*/ body {background:red !important} /**/
http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/
IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.
Alan Gresley wrote:
Scott, both Georg's solution and mine (untested in IE/Mac) still has box
model problems in IE5/Win. Are you wishing to support this browser?
No, the application will have a fairly limited audience. I really need
only FF and IE6+, but would prefer for my own edification to
Hi Everyone.
Why does IE8 take 25 minutes to install!
Well hasLayout, the float bugs, the margins bugs, Sticky hover bug, Guillotine
bug, Escaping float bug, Peekaboo bug, Relative position bug and z-index
stacking order bugs are all fix. Hooray!
Alan Gresley wrote:
Why does IE8 take 25 minutes to install!
Would take ages to download at my end anyway, so I won't bother with
this beta version.
Well hasLayout, the float bugs, the margins bugs, Sticky hover bug,
Guillotine bug, Escaping float bug, Peekaboo bug, Relative position
bug
Scott Sauyet wrote:
I still haven't found time to really investigate the bug. Squashing it
was all that was required for the moment, but I really want to find the
time for further investigation. It is such *odd* behavior, even for IE.
I'm used to the peekaboos and guillotines, but
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Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken
Alan Gresley wrote:
Why does IE8 take 25 minutes to install!
Can someone please confirm if this is stand alone installation or not?
Thanks,
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Anne Pennington wrote:
I have a site for a local business group:
http://www.actonbusinessforum.net/
linked to a forum that my partner has created
http://forums.redmason.net/ActonBusinessForum/ (link on left hand
column)
The site and the forum are hosted separately and they have
Hi,
It is not a standalone, it will write over IE7 but has a button on it to
emulate IE7.
I don't know if it is possible to uninstall it
Hope that helps
James
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On 06/03/2008, James Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not a standalone, it will write over IE7 but has a button on it to
emulate IE7.
I don't know if it is possible to uninstall it
They've added IE8 VirtualPC images to:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Alan Gresley wrote:
Well hasLayout, the float bugs, the margins bugs, Sticky hover bug,
Guillotine bug,
Escaping float bug, Peekaboo bug, Relative position bug and z-index stacking
order
bugs are all fix. Hooray!
Well, yes, it's really nice to see so many
Hi,
On http://gsnedders.com/ the main content is below the sidebar in
IE6, but not in any other browser whatsoever. Anyone have any idea why?
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Geoffrey Sneddon
http://gsnedders.com/
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Hello
Can anybody figure out why the quote on this page overlaps the footer near
the bottom right-hand side?
http://www.bris.ac.uk/news/2008/12017945171.html
It's obviously not meant to do this and doesn't occur when the screen is
really wide.
I'm viewing using FF 2.0.0.12.
--
Regards
Thom
Hi there, I have an issue with size expandability in IE6 7.
If you open this:
www.giuseppecraparottacv.co.uk
and click on the work section, an iframe, showing a file containing the work
info, will come down. Its height is defined in ems.
But when I try to resize the page dimensions (ctrl+mouse
Its cool to have the option to see a page live in one of the three
compatibility modes you choose (Quirks, Strict IE7, and Standards IE8)
when the developer tools are opened.
Ingo
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http://www.dolphinsback.com
Bruno Fassino wrote:
Well, yes, it's really nice to see so many things fixed :-))
I haven't checked too much, but re floats, I confirm that there are
some new problems with the clearing. They range from the simple fact
that a clearing br doesn't work [1], to the fact that floats moved
In my IE6,everything looks OK.
Content is on the left and sidebar is on the right,starting out at the same
level.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Date: Thu, 6 Mar
2008 16:24:24 + Subject: [css-d] Column floating below sidebar on IE6
Hi, On
Geoffrey Sneddon wrote:
Hi,
On http://gsnedders.com/ the main content is below the sidebar in
IE6, but not in any other browser whatsoever. Anyone have any idea why?
--
Geoffrey Sneddon
IE6 has difficulty with tight fits. Reduce the width on #body to around
60% and it will snap
No overlap on my IE6,it is in fact several em's above the footer.
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 16:25:54 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] Odd, broken design Hello
Can anybody figure out why the quote on this page overlaps the footer near
the bottom
Thanks all. I'll figure out what will work for me based on
the replies. I don't think I can require the extra element
inside the li as I am developing a theme for general use.
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Jeff Blaine wrote:
I don't see a CSS2 way to apply a color to JUST the list item marker
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Alan Gresley wrote:
[2] http://brunildo.org/test/clear.html (last test case)
The second test case (6th and 7th example) show display:table doubling your
border
on class=nextdiv. It should be 8px where IE8 is showing 16px.
So something is awfully wrong
On 3/6/08, Mark Story [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hernly, Lee wrote:
Netscape 4.X here...
When testing with an older browser such as netscape 4.x are you looking
for identical results to current browsers. Or just 'good enough' results?
identical is impossible with Netscape 4. In
Gunlaug_Sørtun wrote:
Alan Gresley wrote:
Well hasLayout, the float bugs, the margins bugs, Sticky hover bug,
Guillotine bug, Escaping float bug, Peekaboo bug, Relative position
bug and z-index stacking order bugs are all fix. Hooray!
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Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:19:08 -0500
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Subject: Re: [css-d] Site Check in IE5/Mac
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
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On 3/5/08 10:34 AM, Mark Story
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
discuss.org] On Behalf Of Bruno Fassino
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:02 AM
To: Alan Gresley
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Alan Gresley
On 6 Mar 2008, at 16:52, Ernie Finlay wrote:
In my IE6,everything looks OK.
Content is on the left and sidebar is on the right,starting out at
the same level.
I was testing it at school, at 800x600. Also, playing around more
makes me think it's the latest post causing it.
On 6 Mar
Mark Story wrote:
So I just wanted to get an idea of what the oldest
browser you are currently testing for is?
Lynx.
And how are you targetting
them? Hacks, conditional comments, other techniques?
None needed.
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Ingo Chao wrote:
Its cool to have the option to see a page live in one of the three
compatibility modes you choose (Quirks, Strict IE7, and Standards IE8)
when the developer tools are opened.
Ingo
So if I download the developer tools the below issue is re-solved?
Anyway once you
Karl Hardisty wrote:
On 6/03/2008, at 7:03 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
As far as IE goes, I test for IE6 and IE7, nothing lower.
My data shows no visitors ever coming to my sites with anything less
than IE6.
And if they do, well, it's just time for an upgrade. I'm not jumping
through
On Thu, March 6, 2008 9:47 am, Ingo Chao wrote:
This is red in IE8
/*\*//*/
body {background:red !important}
/**/
http://www.stopdesign.com/examples/ie5mac-bpf/
IE8 is reading styles that were meant to be served to IE-mac.
Mere speculation, but this suggests an interesting possibility:
Thomas Francis wrote:
Can anybody figure out why the quote on this page overlaps the footer near
the bottom right-hand side?
http://www.bris.ac.uk/news/2008/12017945171.html
It's obviously not meant to do this and doesn't occur when the screen is
really wide.
Are you sure? It only happens
So if I download the developer tools the below issue is re-solved?
The developer tool is already included. Its the last button to the
right, an blue arrow. It opens a window behind the actual IE8 window,
so you have to make room to see it. Then click on view|change
compatibility mode.
From: Alan Gresley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So if I download the developer tools the below issue is re-solved?
I hope people are using IE8 for its intended purpose of Technical Beta.
Microsoft's own home page does not work very well and major sites (like
Adobe.com and Yahoo are rendered in degrees
Ingo Chao wrote:
So if I download the developer tools the below issue is re-solved?
The developer tool is already included. Its the last button to the
right, an blue arrow. It opens a window behind the actual IE8 window,
so you have to make room to see it. Then click on view|change
Alan Gresley wrote:
Ingo Chao wrote:
So if I download the developer tools the below issue is re-solved?
The developer tool is already included. Its the last button to the
right, an blue arrow. It opens a window behind the actual IE8 window,
so you have to make room to see it. Then click
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discuss.org] On Behalf Of Alan Gresley
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:06 PM
To: Ingo Chao
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 developer tools and toggling
Ingo Chao wrote:
So if I
And remember this about logs: If you design a site that
doesn't work in browser X, after awhile, you won't have
anyone using browser X visit your site *because your site
doesn't work.* Then you'll pat yourselves on the back
and say, See - no one uses browser X. ;-)
... says the
At 5:18 PM +0100 3/6/08, Bruno Fassino wrote:
I haven't checked too much, but re floats, I confirm that there are
some new problems with the clearing. They range from the simple fact
that a clearing br doesn't work [1]...
[1] http://brunildo.org/test/FloatContainer2.html
Bruno, could you
On Thu, March 6, 2008 7:07 pm, Thierry Koblentz wrote:
Yep, the only issues I had to fix were related to the ieMac rules being
picked up and the links not being hot:
I'm curious as to why you would be fixing any of your own code to cater
for this early beta? The idea is that if your existing,
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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Eric A. Meyer wrote:
At 5:18 PM +0100 3/6/08, Bruno Fassino wrote:
I haven't checked too much, but re floats, I confirm that there are
some new problems with the clearing. They range from the simple fact
that a clearing br doesn't work [1]...
[1]
Ingo Chao wrote:
Did you install the IE8 beta 1 or the IE8beta1 VPC image?
My image VPC looks different.
http://satzansatz.de/ie8/toolbar.jpg
You probably have to right click on the toolbar, then customize it, add
the developer tools command/sign to the toolbar.
Ingo
No just the
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
On Behalf Of Nick Fitzsimons
On Thu, March 6, 2008 7:07 pm, Thierry Koblentz wrote:
Yep, the only issues I had to fix were related to the ieMac rules being
picked up and the links not being hot:
I'm curious as to why you would be fixing any of your own code
Bruno Fassino wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Alan Gresley wrote:
[2] http://brunildo.org/test/clear.html (last test case)
The second test case (6th and 7th example) show display:table doubling
your border
on class=nextdiv. It should be 8px where IE8 is showing 16px.
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discuss.org] On Behalf Of Alan Gresley
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org; 'Bruno Fassino'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken
Thierry
Al Sparber wrote:
From: Alan Gresley [EMAIL-REMOVED]
So if I download the developer tools the below issue is re-solved?
I hope people are using IE8 for its intended purpose of Technical Beta.
Microsoft's own home page does not work very well and major sites (like
Adobe.com and Yahoo
On 07/03/2008, at 5:48 AM, Kroon.Kurtis wrote:
He should look into iCab: it's been around since system 7, the Mac
Classic version was last updated on 1 January *2008*, it runs
quite well on older Macintosh operating systems, and it supports
enough CSS (among Other Things) to pass Acid2.
Alan Gresley wrote:
Gunlaug_Sørtun wrote:
http://tjkdesign.com/test/ie8/links.asp
That the same issue as I'm having with my menu.
http://css-class.com/articles/ursidae/bears5ddh-kbaccess.htm
It is similar as with IE6 requiring hasLayout and display:block on
anchors to make the
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
I agree with Nick here. The band pass filter will be fixed in later beta.
Currently I think you can use this approach (untested).
imho, the fact that the band pass filter will be fixed or not is irrelevant,
because in any case I won't have anything more to do.
Hi,
I installed IE8, then uninstalled it and IE7 was still there.
You can uninstall from Control Panel - Add / Remove Programs - Microsoft
Internet Explorer 8 .. cant remember full line.
Cheers
Kevin
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Is it possible to have an image showing a picture frame and have that
as part of the css style sheet.
Then in HTML on different pages use that frame to cover over an
image, giving the image a nice decorative picture frame.
Don't know if I'm pushing the limits.
thanks in advance
chris
Sure.
Make a div id=frame. Make a blank black frame image and use that as a
background-image with no repeat.
Then inside that div, put your img add padding-top and padding-left to
line up.
On 3/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it possible to have an image showing a picture
Here is a way to have the frame in as a background in the css and adding the
image in the body of the html:
http://www.jimdavis.org/test/frame_demo.html
Jim
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it possible to have an image showing a picture frame and
I have dynamically generated tabular data.
The leftmost cell in each row will be either an image, or blank. The
images can vary in width. Height is not an issue.
The displayed images are to be maximum width 150px. I would prefer that
smaller images remain smaller; but, can live with stretch.
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Alan Gresley wrote:
Gunlaug_Sørtun wrote:
http://tjkdesign.com/test/ie8/links.asp
That the same issue as I'm having with my menu.
http://css-class.com/articles/ursidae/bears5ddh-kbaccess.htm
It is similar as with IE6 requiring hasLayout and
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