the money to Paul, you can
generally count on Paul's vote.
Hawk
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they're being made."
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Sno0wl wrote:
Congratulations, Hawk!
You have made it to my Filter-Delete list.
Good.
I have absolutely no idea what you are doing here.
You also apparently have no idea what YOU are doing here.
I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say to people on this list
onsistency with what I say and what I
practice. On the other hand, I have patiently answere EVERY question the dumb-ass
has asked... Take up the challenge... show me otherwise.
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blah, blah, blah give me a break!
The reason that Kris is going into the Bible himself is that he is trying to
illustrate the hypocrisy of Hawk in his statements regarding slavery.
And, I might add, he's doing a
but maybe I am not wrong at all. You be the
judge, after having an opportunity to study the passages using proper
hermaneutical procedures. In looking through your concordance, don't look for
"slave" but rather "servant" which IS a slave unless it says "hired" servant.
SIONS
A. note any absence of your target text in any other related passages
B. note any absence of your target text in any parallel passages
Hypocrite Hawk sez:
"But, the passage you quoted said nothing about it being "evil" or "wrong" for
the Hebrews to be held in bon
of the persons, of the cattle, of the donkeys and of the sheep, from all the
animals, and give them to the Levites who keep charge of the tabernacle of the
LORD."
(NAS)
Hawk
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Short memory, hawk?
I am sometimes afflicted with short memory... What are specifically addressing?
hawk sez:
I was in the USAF for almost seven years as a professional military officer
and aviator. During three of those years
Bill
Gates.
Unlike the poorest 40%, everyone who bought goods from Microsoft did so as a
voluntary decision, whereas many of the poorest 40% were recipients of funds
extorted by threat of violence from the other 60%.
Hawk, you seem to live in a dark pit.
On the contrary, my dear man, I live
, for sure!
Hey I like what you say tell us more!
Hawk
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What did we learn in 1998?
Speaking of the clammoring for "documentation" and "citations" and "URL's" for
everything contrary to what the brain-dead liberals believe where is the
documentation for all of this?
Hawk
Microsoft Ch
experience... When a
crime is committed, it is not followed SWIFTLY by CERTAIN (and appropriate)
punishment. Over 95% of FELONIES in the U.S. are "unsolved," whereas in Japan,
over 95% of felonies result in jail time.
Hawk
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On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Hawk wrote:
You might consider that this gal is pulling your leg...
Of course, such a story HAS to be a lie, doesn't it?
No it doesn't but then, maybe it is.. or maybe its exaggerated... But, it could
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YnrChyldzWyld wrote:
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On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Hawk wrote:
Still voicing OPINION without FACTS, are we?
Read the words, June... I believe them to be factual Documents from the era
indicate
that such was the situation, or that those who were living
dressed rather nattily, with frock
coats, ties, "plantation" hats, etc. In fact, they "could have been dressed
for the
ball.
"
Shame on you, Hawk. Have you never heard of Potemkin Village?
Why "shame on me"? The photos are available for anyone to see. And, no
FBI/DEA: For maintaining the high profit returns on drugs, thus inducing all
kinds of folks into the business.
The Department of Agriculture: For paying people NOT to grow crops.
The Department of Labor: For making it increasingly difficult to hire anyone at a
price that might produce a prof
e away at war?
"Allowed to take over" ??? Are those jobs just "allotted" to folks, or do they
normally have to qualify for them? Oh, that's a rhetorical question... Of course
nowadays, they ARE allotted... its called "Affirmative Action" and "Racial
Set-As
tem and quality of life compare to, say, a Moslem or
'Christian' country...that would be discussing FACTS...but if the discussion
degenerates into an argument about which religion is 'correct', then it's OT for this
list...
But of course, that is precisely what has taken place in the past few
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Gerald Harp wrote:
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Welcome back, Hawk. Many of us missed hearing your arguments however we
disagreed because your supporting evidence offered something to get one's
teeth into.
Thanks for the welcome.
I'm not sure what to say regarding your remarks
ve to know something of the restrictions observed
by the influence of the society, the church, the family, the community... There
are lots of "influences" that have an impact on how people behave. As a
management consultant I have clients who are jerks, and I wouldn't advise anyone
to work fo
then the New World Order" or that "out of this,
a New World Order will emerge"???
Hawk
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Hawk wrote:
"Howard R. Davis III" wrote:
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But slavery was an evil institution.
That is merely your opinion, and it does not comport with the Bible. You are
welcome to it, and you are
certainly not alone in that opinion. But
at your place, and by threat of violence took
whatever we wanted that you have. If you are truely "democratic" all that would
be necessary is that we "outnumber" you.
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t let you own slaves. You'll just have to live with it and
whine about it. Poor guy.
I don't recall whining about it... As a matter of fact, if you could read and
understand simple English, you would have noted that I said that I do not wish to own
a slave.
Well Hawk, you've convinced me. W
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Should we be talking down to you?
Impossible from your position...
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I hope no one does... I'm not looking for praise.
--
You have just reinforced the image of your ilk as being arrogant and
conescending. I would have a tough time TRYING to give myself this
bad an
image.
You've done a decent job without trying...
Hawk
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providing information... I am a
consultant.
Lots of people pay quite handsomly to hear what I think... You are a
fortunate
recipient of my wisdom at no charge... See how generous I am?
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sweethearts all right. Kind and gentle...
noble
savages all.
Hawk
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me here in the 1600s were for the most part
pretty
middleclass, more merchants than farmers...
Middleclass has nothing to do with farming ability..
Hawk
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own version/vision
of
'heaven on earth' in a new land...
You learned that in school... right?
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are of the logical and historically supported result of
life in a society where there is such callous disregard for those of either
end of an economic continuum. The result has heretofore been--and will be
again--revolution. This is not a threat, sir, it is a fact.
And my opinion of that is, Sir, "
arried into
abstract terms...
First of all, the Govm't CANNOT give anything to anyone that it didn't TAKE FORCIBLY
from someone else. The BEST thing the govm't can do to "help people" is to stay out
of the way, provide protection against foreign invasion, and run a system of courts
that trea
rstand in the
future.
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nature of communism, socialism, facsism and other forms of coerced
altruism... I believe it is your preferrence. There are generally only three
methods of obtaining wealth: (1)Produce it -- choice, (2)Plunder it -- your
choice, or (3) Patronage -- somebody gives it to you...
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o obey orders. The strong, too, claim absolution by proclaiming
themselves the chosen instrument of a higher power -- God, history, fate, nation
or humanity. -- Eric Hoffer
Is this Eric Hoffer the Marxist Eric Hoffer?
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Edward Britton wrote:
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All except you, Hawk; just keep your eyes closed. It may not hurt as much
when the grand disillusionment comes. :-)
Edward
Come ahead... Lead the way... Happy Trails...
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Edward Britton wrote:
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All except you, Hawk; just keep your eyes closed. It may not hurt as much
when the grand disillusionment comes. :-)
Edward
Right now, it seems, cops and "citizens" are ahead. Keep an eye on the
race, compassionless
After all, he's taking
my money so
he can maintain his lifestyle of robbing and killing other people...
Or maybe it's time for you to move to the Cayman Islands or some taxhaven with
others of your
ilk.
My ilk? Maybe its time for "others of my ilk" to sack up people "of
that the Europeans who came here had been farmers and
fishers Did they forget how to do these things after the arrived over here?
Hawk
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Hawk:
Oh! how I wish you would be the leader of the pack! Come on,
compassionate one.
Be still, Hawk. Wouldn't want you to blow a gasket. Better have lots of
bullets, pal. There are more of "them" than you.
That's
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William... I am having to post this directly to you because I quickly use up my
alloted 7 posts per day.
William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
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Hawk,
Thank you for serving our country. As a veteran, you put your life on the line for
the country
Hawk
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gument becomes
rediculous.
What if we don't "blame anybody," and just let the chips fall where they may? My
bad luck doesn't constitute a claim on your bank account.
I am fearful of being run over by a system in which I have no representation. I
guess it's a matter of choosing who and b
uld
blame it on the mis-education system, but if they've been out of school for more
than two or three years, they should have learned better.
Hawk
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the pursuit of a
"better life, you'll be living in your own filth!
Funny... your theory hasn't seemed to be right yet. Seems as though its the
people who expect others to pay their way that usually reside in filth. My
neighborhood's pretty clean... We have Mexicans who do the work
alism, sickness, disease, famine,
and pestilence." Compared to any of those, "capitalism" pales in significance.
Hawk
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fect me much either. I don't think they
were "put here" for entertainment purposes (i.e. vacation trips to Africa, or even
to the zoo, to "see the elephants.")
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ing a phrase) ways of taking care
of our protein needs. Just a thought. But of course we could follow PJ
O'Rourke's advice and eat the rich.
You eat whatever you wish... I don't care what you eat... or who, for that matter.
Just
don't expect me to pay your bills.
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I'm all for your right to own an elephant, Hawk.
Go for it.
However, I think your argument that private owners make better
caretakers because they are interested in protecting their investment
might be a little weak.
I
ee the slave, but to enslave the
master... and its objective was accomplished.
And I, for one, will not "thank God" for having my country over-run by the
imperial United States, and making my state a mere administrative extension of an
over-bearing and increasingly intolerable Cent
nch." Somebody has to pay for all the "goodies" other people get.
Whenever ANYONE gets "something for nothing," someone else got "Nothing for something."
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ntil after the trial to report the
incident?
And in the process, much personal damage is done all round.
If one sleeps with the dogs, he should expect to have fleas.
Hawk
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like some folks once said the
same thing about the demise of the world's whale-oil supply. Central controls
isn't the answer... FREEDOM to get rich by taking big chances is the answer, just
as it was then.
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p" huh? Sounds charming. Since we are suggesting things to each other,
while there is one suggestion that I am tempted to make, I will, instead,
encourage you to read "Time On the Cross" by PulitzerPrize-winning author William
Fogel. You might learn something.
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residio -- courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer -- just
outside of San Francisco... While your pathetic masses are wallowing in poverty.
Great guy, Gorbechev.. ex-honcho of the Gulag. Give me a break!
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MARK wrote:
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HAWK, sometimes you are a really good source of information. BUT LEAVE
OFF WHAT YOU DONT KNOW
I believe I asked a question
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you don't like it leave. You are not going to get your way because it's impossible
to run a large society on such idotic ideology.
There you go again "If you don't do as I say, you must leave." But, my egotistical
and lunatic friend... There is another option...
You may ne
ol ALL of the people SOME of the time... and SOME of the people ALL of
the time..." and in this case, that's proven sufficient to pull off the master
con.
Hawk
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s so THEY can have what THEY want -- most of which costs money,
which they earn by slaughtering animals.
Try a veggie burger..they're great!
No thanks... I need to keep my cholesterol count high... the govm't says it should be
low, and they lie about everything.
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ncies in automated vote counts for both time and money.
Yes, its the same kind of "efficiencies" that regulate what percentage slot
machines return to the suckers that play them...
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