Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-14 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- 1% and 10% are not the same. Look govt costs money. To me it seems those who have the most (myself included), those who benefit the most, from our society, those who can best shoulder the burden of keeping our society running, should pay the lion's share. We all want good

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-13 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ If Joe and Steve pay $1 in taxes, their burden is EQUAL. The Government REQUIRING Joe and Steve pay $1 in taxes is EQUITABLE. If Joe pays $1 and Steve pays $2, their burden is UNequal. The Government REQUIRING Joe to pay $1 and Steve pay $2 in taxes is

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-11 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- As always innumeracy reigns on 01/11/03 1:29 AM, M.A. Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- \ I made no claim that equitable was synonymous with equal. And yet every time I take about equitable treatment, you respond with equal treatment. Thew We

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-10 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ 'Need' -- real or imaginary -- has NOTHING to do with equity. Thew The sad thing is that you don't see that as the problem. MJ That a WORD means what it states and not something else? Regard$, --MJ To COMPEL a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-10 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- We were not discussing the WORD equitable, until I had to explain to you carefully that the word was not synonymous with Equal. (that's why we have 2 different words.) We were discussing behaviors of the state - and its responsibility. It is not JUST or FAIR (equitable) that a

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-10 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ 'Need' -- real or imaginary -- has NOTHING to do with equity. Thew The sad thing is that you don't see that as the problem. MJ That a WORD means what it states and not something else? Thew We were not discussing the WORD equitable, until I had to explain

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich' (fwd)

2003-01-08 Thread Willie Martin
-Caveat Lector- This tax plan will help the rich is the propaganda bs that the Democratic Party has put out for years and plays on peoples dislike for wealthy people. While I have no great love for them myself, I am not so stupid as to believe that the working man would have a job if the

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Willie - yes any tax reduction plan will obviously benefit the person who earns more than one who earns less. The point is to try to make a plan that at least attempts to help those who need it most, rather than one that barely helps the worst off, and hugely benefits the top.

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Thew Willie - yes any tax reduction plan will obviously benefit the person who earns more than one who earns less. The point is to try to make a plan that at least attempts to help those who need it most, rather than one that barely helps the worst off, and hugely

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- on 01/08/03 10:27 AM, M.A. Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thew Willie - yes any tax reduction plan will obviously benefit the person who earns more than one who earns less. The point is to try to make a plan that at least attempts to help those who need it most,

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread Jim Rarey
ou have a very familiar phrase. Now where have I heard that before? Oh yes, it is in the Communist Manifesto. JR - Original Message - From: M.A. Johnson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Ri

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich' -Caveat Lector- Just because Marx wrote it doesnt mean it doesnt make sense. Thinking society can be more equitable does not make one a communist. on 01/08/03 11:12 AM, Jim Rarey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Jim Our tax code is based on From each according to his ability. when it comes tax reductions, some seem to be saying to each according to his need. When you unmask it, ... you see that taxation is highwaymanry [highway robbery] made respectable by custom, thievery made

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Thew Willie - yes any tax reduction plan will obviously benefit the person who earns more than one who earns less. The point is to try to make a plan that at least attempts to help those who need it most, rather than one that barely helps the worst off, and hugely

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Thew Thinking society can be more equitable does not make one a communist. MJ There is NOTHING 'equitable' about treating people differently. Regard$, --MJ From the fact that people are very different it follows that, if we treat them equally, the result must be inequality in

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/8/03 8:00:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because EQUAL is not the same as EQUITABLE. Amen A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- The words you missed were EQUAL and EQUALITY (One is having the other) We were comparing EQUAL with EQUITABLE, not EQUITY with EQUITABILITY here: SYLLABICATION: e $B! (Jqual PRONUNCIATION: ?kw?l ADJECTIVE: 1. Having the same quantity,

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- You mean all people in all situations have the same needs at the same times? What a load of crock. And by crock , I mean rank horseshit. All people do not need the same thing, so there is nothing EQUITABLE about treating everybody in the exact same manner. on 01/08/03 11:28

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- The words you missed were EQUAL and EQUALITY (One is having the other) We were comparing EQUAL with EQUITABLE, not EQUITY with EQUITABILITY here: SYLLABICATION: e $B! (Jqual PRONUNCIATION: ADJECTIVE: 1. Having the same quantity,

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich' -Caveat Lector- The words you missed were EQUAL and EQUALITY (One is having the other) We were comparing EQUAL with EQUITABLE, not EQUITY with EQUITABILITY here: ADJECTIVE: 1. Having the same quantity, measure

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- SORRY ABOUT THOSE POSTS _ bad cut and paste I suspect Trying again - We were not comparing EQUITABLE with EQUITY - which are obviously the same. We were comparing Equitable with EQUAL (the related word being equality, not equitability) EQUAL: ADJECTIVE: 1: Having the same

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Thew Thinking society can be more equitable does not make one a communist. MJ There is NOTHING 'equitable' about treating people differently. Thew You mean all people in all situations have the same needs at the same times? What a load of crock. And by crock ,

Re: [CTRL] MRC Alert: Bush's Tax Plan 'Gives the Most to the Rich'

2003-01-08 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- The sad thing is that you don't see that as the problem. on 01/08/03 3:46 PM, M.A. Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MJ 'Need' -- real or imaginary -- has NOTHING to do with equity. -- - --- -- ---