[CTRL] Dispute over war crimes court settled

2002-07-13 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- on one hand- what an arrogant bastard america is (again). on the other at least it might keep american soldiers where they belong- america. Saturday, 13 July, 2002, 03:20 GMT 04:20 UK Dispute over war crimes court settled The US was concerned its soldiers may be prosecuted

[CTRL] Fw: The Einstein Files

2002-07-13 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- Re-sending ... sorry if there is a duplicate. I am really beginning to hate Pacbell (SBC) regarding their lousy email service, not to mention Yahoogroups. - jt -- http://www.webactive.com/pacifica/demnow/dn20020709.html Story: THE EINSTEIN FILES: J. EDGAR HOOVER'S SECRET

[CTRL] The Einstein Files

2002-07-13 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- http://www.webactive.com/pacifica/demnow/dn20020709.html Story: THE EINSTEIN FILES: J. EDGAR HOOVER'S SECRET WAR AGAINST THE WORLD'S MOST FAMOUS SCIENTIST (streaming recordedbroadcast in RealAudio) We have been talking about the FBI's investigation into US scientists who

[CTRL] Plan to attack Iraq 'immoral'

2002-07-13 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- Plan to attack Iraq 'immoral' The cleric widely tipped to become the next Archbishop of Canterbury has called any attack on Iraq immoral. Dr Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Wales, has signed a declaration criticising the West's war on terror and said an assault on Iraq would be

[CTRL] Jury trials face major overhaul

2002-07-13 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- Saturday, 13 July, 2002, 07:48 GMT 08:48 UK Jury trials face major overhaul The right of thousands of defendants to trial by jury could be scrapped in a radical overhaul of the criminal justice system, a leaked document has revealed. It contains proposals to reduce the number

[CTRL] Alert as hackers meet

2002-07-13 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- Saturday, 13 July, 2002, 01:55 GMT 02:55 UK Alert as hackers meet Beware giving away sensitive information As computer hackers attend a convention in New York, major organisations are fearing that attempts might be made to disrupt their computers in a show of hacking strength.

[CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- What really galls me about this whole thing is that the school spent a whole week on this PC cr*p when they could have much better spent the time on things like reading, writing, match, science, geography -- you know, those hopelessly outdated ACADEMIC subjects. The kids got the

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] What really galls me about this whole thing is that the school spent a whole week on this PC cr*p when they could have much better spent the time on things like reading, writing, match, science, geography -- you

[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Corning by the Book: Utopian or Orwellian?

2002-07-13 Thread Tenor Love
-Caveat Lector- This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corning by the Book: Utopian or Orwellian? July 12, 2002 By LISA W. FODERARO CORNING, N.Y. - People in other cities may all be reading the same book, but here they are living the same life. And what

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- --- Joshua Tinnin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What really galls me about this crap is that people get so worked up over the fact that public schools are not built and designed to teach their own facet of morality. Another thing that really galls me is the assumption that I

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 12:45 PM Subject: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN -Caveat Lector- What really galls me about this whole thing is that the school spent a whole week on this PC cr*p

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Joshua Tinnin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What really galls me about this crap is that people get so worked up over the fact that public schools are not built and designed to teach their own facet of

Re: [CTRL] Dispute over war crimes court settled

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- If Americans commit war crimes They should be punished Its not hard to understand , really. on 7/13/02 2:46 AM, c. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- on one hand- what an arrogant bastard america is (again). on the other at least it might keep american soldiers

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- How would this student feel about a student standing up and criticizing Catholicism, the catholic agenda, and a religious curriculum? on 7/13/02 7:45 AM, Tenorlove at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- What really galls me about this whole thing is that the school

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Zuukie
-Caveat Lector- The schools are teaching a morality. It may be politically correct, but it is definitely not a healthy one. It sponsors a diversity that isn't really isn't diverse, but straightjackets thinking and then sends it on its way. There are definitely not enough hours in the day to

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Tolerance and diversity are what America is all about. Teaching people not to hate others based solely on religion, race, belief system, or who they like to fuck is not promoting a homosexual agenda, it is diffusing violence and hatred. Personally I think the girl should be

[CTRL] domestic violence, clergy - mahony, bigamy, terrorism, files

2002-07-13 Thread Smart News
-Caveat Lector- this may be heavy for survivors from backlash_ology Domestic violence: Identifying the deadly silence. Kessmann JR Tex Dent J 2000 Oct;117(10):42-7 affects 3 to 4 million individuals every year in this country alone (6, 7, 14). Millions more are affected due to the children and

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- Answering several posts in one shot, quotes in , no attribution, you know what you said, if you can't remember, go to the archives. the real sickening politically correct issue is the barring of the girl speaking- which *is* immoral. but your comment above seems to indicate

Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America

2002-07-13 Thread Al Hidell
-Caveat Lector- Jewish people make up roughly 2% (I've also heard 3%) of the US population, yet numerically they have an extremely disproportionate reperesentation and influence in the legal system, the healthcare system, nass media, entertainment, news, banking and finance, higher education, and

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Nessie SFBG
-Caveat Lector- by using the few hours they do have for teaching about diversity, it takes away from hours that could be better spent teaching about reading, That's absurd. Teach them about reading by having them read about diversity. Teach critical thinking by having them discuss what they

Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America

2002-07-13 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America -Caveat Lector- Im STILL waiting for my check. Im still waiting to be called to conspire. I WANT MY PIECE OF THE JEWISH CONSPIRACY DOLLAR. Seriously I do. My poor parents they came here to a foreign country, speaking almost

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN the real sickening politically correct issue is the barring of the girl speaking- which *is* immoral. but your

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] warpigs gorge some more

2002-07-13 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many

[CTRL] Social Security, A Bigger Fraud Than Corporate Scandals

2002-07-13 Thread ab
-Caveat Lector- Social Security Called A Bigger Fraud Than Corporate Scandals By Jim Burns CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer July 12, 2002 (CNSNews.com) - A public policy think tank devoted to individual liberty and free-market capitalism says the current frenzy in Congress and elsewhere

Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America

2002-07-13 Thread Al Hidell
-Caveat Lector- This is what I mean about people jumping to conclusions and responding mindlessly to any attempt to discuss this topic. My post said precisely the opposite, that I did NOT believe in some kind of Jewish Conspiracy HQ. Well, I respect your opinion even though it has no relations to

Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America

2002-07-13 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America -Caveat Lector- Im all for discussions. I didnt say anything about your beliefs. I said something about mine. I agree with almost everything you said With just a slight bit of sarcasm removal ( something Im sure my words

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Jim Rarey
-Caveat Lector- Teach them about reading by having them read aboutdiversity That thinking is why half or more of our population are functional illiterates. Most children have to be taught how to read. Just having them read, or reading to them, does nothing to impart the "rules" of the

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN -Caveat Lector- Bullshit There are many ways to teach reading, and phonics is only one of them. (whole language approach is another, as an example) You are confusing levels here You obviously will not be having 1st graders read weighty tomes on diversity.

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread InfoWarz
-Caveat Lector- So-called tolerance and diversity are the best tools yet to divide and conquer the American people. They are brainwashing tools of oppression and destruction straight out of the Illuminati's Protocols of Sion and the Communist Manifesto. Schools should teach the three R's, not

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Union is not the same as homogeneity. In fact Union can only occur among that which was diverse. Otherwise there is nothing to unify. Schools need to focus on the 3 r's - and also the additional r's of reason, rhyme, and respect. on 7/13/02 6:16 PM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip I pledge allegiance to no god, and to no flag, as governments are inherently corrupt, and any government which purports to support a religion is corrupted even further. I leave symbols to the symbol

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- The point is not to lose The Grapes of Wrath but to enhance it with Stories similar and divergent from around the world. I'm all for studying the dead white men. I'm also all for rounding that out with everyone else who has something of value to offer. And as a post script

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Nessie SFBG
-Caveat Lector- So-called tolerance and diversity are the best tools yet to divide and conquer the American people. Diversity is a fact of life. It isn't going away. We have to deal with it. The best way to deal with it is to teach tolerance. Either we teach tolerance or we have conflict.

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread InfoWarz
-Caveat Lector- At 06:25 PM 7/13/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Union is not the same as homogeneity. In fact Union can only occur among that which was diverse. Otherwise there is nothing to unify. But it the union we celebrate not the diversity. Schools need to focus on the 3 r's - and

Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America

2002-07-13 Thread Al Hidell
-Caveat Lector- First, I appreciate your friendly response to what was my own "jumping the gun," assuming that you didn't have more things to say beyond your initial response. I think you would agree with me that at this point in time, a significant number of Jews have indeed got past the

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread InfoWarz
-Caveat Lector- At 07:16 PM 7/13/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- So-called tolerance and diversity are the best tools yet to divide and conquer the American people. Diversity is a fact of life. It isn't going away. We have to deal with it. The best way to deal with it is to teach tolerance.

Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America

2002-07-13 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/13/02 3:47:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To say you want to examine Jewish power like you would examine the CIA, the freemasons, or big oil, is to perpetuate the very myth that you claim to deny accepting – that being Jewish grants

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread Jim Rarey
-Caveat Lector- Jesus taught tolerance, not just by word, but by deed. Yes, but tolerance of differences, e.g. the Good Samaritan, but not tolerance of sin. He was dead set against it and told us not to associate with those who deliberately sin. Was he practicing tolerance when he drove the

Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America

2002-07-13 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America -Caveat Lector- Sounds like sour grapes to me. on 7/13/02 8:38 PM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I DO know that there is NO WAY to explain the disproportionate power your people wield except for some secret plan

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- on 7/13/02 8:13 PM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then we have conflict. Tolerance of evil leads to total dominance of evil. No one is speaking of tolerance of evil - we are talking about tolerance of cultural differences. Tolerance for your brothers and sisters in the

Re: [CTRL] PC run amok AGAIN

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- on 7/13/02 7:53 PM, InfoWarz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- At 06:25 PM 7/13/02 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Union is not the same as homogeneity. In fact Union can only occur among that which was diverse. Otherwise there is nothing to unify. But it the

Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America

2002-07-13 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- I think it's a combination of discipline and family support, both of which figure very prominently in the Jewish ethos. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com A

[CTRL] LAX Shooting - Julia Gorin-Mohamed: Random terrorism

2002-07-13 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- Jewish World Review July 10, 2002 / 1 Menachem-Av, 5762 Julia Gorin-Mohamed Random terrorism http://www.jewishworldreview.com | Hesham Mohamed Hadayet was one of the victims in last week's tragic shootout at Los Angeles Airport. And now, as his widow attests, he is

Re: [CTRL] A Look At The Powerful Jewish Lobby In America

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- on 7/13/02 11:55 PM, Tenorlove at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - This reminds me of a study from the late 50's or early 60's It was a report on marijuana use, and, at that time, it said the most likely user was a young Jewish male. It went on to say that this is because in the

[CTRL] The Myth of Islamic Tolerance

2002-07-13 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- From a Christian web site, cross-posted from a Jewish list. Go figure. Tenorlove The Myth of Islamic Tolerance Muslim protection of Christians and Jews has actually been oppression, says scholar Bat Ye'or. Interview By Michael Cromartie It is standard fare in many

Re: [CTRL] LAX Shooting - Julia Gorin-Mohamed: Random terrorism

2002-07-13 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- on 7/14/02 12:22 AM, Tenorlove at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Jewish World Review July 10, 2002 / 1 Menachem-Av, 5762 Julia Gorin-Mohamed Random terrorism http://www.jewishworldreview.com | Hesham Mohamed Hadayet was one of the victims in last week's

[CTRL] In Tough Times, a Company Finds Profits in Terror War

2002-07-13 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- *Editors Note | At the time Dick Cheney retired as CEO of Halliburton, to run along side George W. Bush for control of the White House, the company awarded him a Twenty Million dollar retirement package. They stated at the time that it was their legal prerogative to increase the