Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/2/99 5:44:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, I was wondering the same thing. Guess great minds think alike. And, p lease answer the question Teo, inquiring minds want to knowvbg Lynne I was NOT on the show, BUT am now DAMNED curious as to what was said to spark the debate?!?! Please tell me what was discussed! Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [EWAR] WARNING, WARNING - PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY!
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for posting that. I am sending this far and wide. ME -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CTRL] Fwd: [EWAR] WARNING, WARNING - PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY! Message: [EWAR] WARNING, WARNING - PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY! I can't confirm this stuff, but if it's true, we're all in trouble. The police state is here. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] United States of Urantia? I don't think so.
-Caveat Lector- Then thar Thought Adjusters and stuff sounds like some think tank has laid the ground work for implanting fundamentalist America. You were saying the books 30 years old - why its almost credible now ... The technology now exists to inject radio-active implants in the human being - smart chips and such - so perhaps this is a prelude ... something to help the Xtians get over the indignity of the forthcoming measures taking it all away from the number of the beast type allegations ... Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Theosophy, Cabals and the NWO
-Caveat Lector- here's some things that you may wish to know about the Theosophical Society. Members subscribe the three objects. 1. A Universal Brotherhood regardless of race sex creed and caste 2. encourage study of comparitive religion, philosophy and science 3. explore the powers latent in man and nature However, we have dug up an Inner Cabal called the Esoteric School which has a remit that has nothing to do do with the 3 objects that define us as Theosophists - they all sounds Very Extreme. Here is a collection of quotes from their Handbook that describes their sick and prejudiced nature ... the sad thing for us is that all the contributors were former heads of the International Organisation .. so please don't judge us all . The Esoteric Section: Morals and Beliefs published circa1960 P97 GS Arundale: the whole object of the Esoteric School is to lead you from the world of men into the world of the masters, and you must take as your standard the morality of the masters and not that of the world. P161 Sri Ram ' the changes they are planning for the world' [earthquakes eg. California 1907] ... P151 A Besant 'Then came the need for the great shaking, when elements had accumulated that were not ready to go further. It had to be a very great shaking, for the times demanded it, in order that the advance afterwards might be rapid. This time it came [in 1907], all the turmoil and its inevitable results in shaking out a large number of good and earnest people who were nevertheless no good to us at the moment because they could not adapt themselves to the new life. P121 Jinarajadasa '.. the Lords of karma may put you in a race that has no tendency to occultism - you may possibly get a hard brain so that you will not be able to meditate, P25 A Besant '.. you have to learn to make the mind sensitive to orders that come to you from the Higher Mind, and then you gradually get the feeling that your mind is not you, but something for use the drudgery has to be done until the mind becomes automatically obedient. P37 A Besant '.. I cannot imagine anyone who is a disciple doing anything but obeying without cavil or delay any order that comes from his superior.' P35 A Besant '.. the Hierarchy - has no break therin; it is because any command which is given comes down from grade to grade, and grade to grade until it reaches the disciple appointed.' P50 Jinarajadasa 'take the case of the member who comes into this school. He is presumably sincere, he has read certain rules, and he signs a promise or a pledge. No-one has compelled him to come in, and he knows exactly to what he is subscribing. If after subscribing to the rules of the esoteric school he voluntarily, to suit his own convenience, adopts modifications of them, it is obvious that he is not playing the game. P156 N Sri Ram '.. members [of the ES] to act as a definite instrument through which the hierarchy can act upon the Society..' P127 HPB The Theosophist Aug 1931. 'The Esoteric Section is thus 'set apart' for the salvation of the whole Society. Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh, Scotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/3/99 12:07:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, I was wondering the same thing. Guess great minds think alike. And, p lease answer the question Teo, inquiring minds want to knowvbg Lynne I was NOT on the show, BUT am now DAMNED curious as to what was said to spark the debate?!?! Please tell me what was discussed! Teo1000 It should be pretty obvious, Teo. We all recognized your voice. Jim DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Taking Communism Seriously
-Caveat Lector- Nazi's, Socialists, Communists - One and the same Center for the American Founding January 20, 1998 Balint Vazsonyi TAKING COMMUNISM SERIOUSLY By Balint Vazsonyi [First published January 20, 1998 in The Washington Times] The publication in France of "The Black Book of Communism" (reviewed in the Washington Times by Ben and Daniel Wattenberg, January 8) is setting off shock waves in French political circles. But the book's real impact could be in America. At long last, we will have the tools to confront "Communism The Idea." Three centuries in the making, communism has offered the only challenge to the principles of the American Founding. It has done so under a bewildering variety of labels, all based on the identical doctrine: that human reason is supreme, and that certain people are capable of comprehending and arranging the world around us; that such people should guide all others toward an increasingly perfect and just society in which all desires will have been either eliminated or satisfied. Unlike the American quest for the best possible world, communism thus promises the perfect world. For Lenin, that meant a world where no one owned anything. For Hitler, one without Jews and ruled by Germans. Stalin combined it all no Jews, no ownership, and a world domination by Russia. Mao hunted down those who possessed Western books. All for social justice. All "in the best interest of the people." Eyebrows were raised when my 1995 essay "The Battle for America's Soul" detailed the parallels between the Third Reich and the Soviet Union as "The Unlikely Twins." Even more skepticism greeted the assertion that both grew out of nineteenth-century German philosophy. It comes as a relief that Tony Judt (New York Times, December 22, 1997) and Alain Besancon (Commentary, January 1998) published the same conclusions. Having grown up under both tyrannies, there was the troubling possibility that I had developed obsessions and mistaken them for reality. For sure, a lot is asked of native-born Americans with no experience of foreign occupation or tyranny, to see all this in the same light as those who lived through it. Even the often-shown horror pictures of the Nazi concentration camps must appear as something from another planet. Visual record of the horrible deeds elsewhere is not accessible, and reports of them have been obscured by the beguiling language of socialism: "peace, compassion, international brotherhood." But reality is that even Mussolini was a socialist who, thrown out by fellow socialists, formed his own socialist party named "fascist" after a symbol from ancient Rome. Reality is that Hitler's outfit was called the National Socialist German Workers' Party, with a manifesto copied from Marx. Reality is that Lenin's Bolshevik Party was based on German books. Differences merely reflected local conditions. Jiang Zemin, China's current president speaks of "Socialism with Chinese characteristics." Might some people be working on socialism with American characteristics? Most Americans prefer the notion that communism went out with the dissolution of the Soviet Union. But communism, remember, was not born in the Soviet Union. Why would it have died with the Soviet Union? Is it likely that the millions who signed on to The Idea just shrugged their shoulders in 1991 and drank a toast to the rule of law and free enterprise? Remember also: socialists, whether they realize it or not, are committed to building communism because socialism President Jiang Zemin reminds us is but a phase on the road to communism. Many see a difference between socialists and communists. But Marx, in the Communist Manifesto of 1848, already differentiates among seven types of socialism, dismissing all except his own. Since his doctrines are described as "socialist" and the publication is called "Communist Manifesto," it is just a game with words. The most successful word game was devised by Stalin, who renamed Hitler's regime "fascist" to cover up the fact that it, too, was socialist. For several decades, we have been fooled about nazism and communism as "opposites." Nazis were the ultimate evil but communists Hollywood assured us during the 50th anniversary of the HUAC hearings were good people. The "Hollywood Ten" of 1948, and many others since, believed that communism was really a good idea with a few "mistakes" along the way. By mistake, a hundred million people were killed in various terrible ways, so the "Black Book of Communism" informs us. That, and the irrefutable evidence of methods identical to those of Nazi Germany, should open many eyes at last. There is nothing we can do about the past. But we can do something for the future. We can change the words we use. As Alain Besancon points out in Commentary, the current vocabulary for our political spectrum is of Soviet origin. It placed socialists and communists on the left, "capitalists, imperialists" on the right. Once
[CTRL] Boston Has Millennium Clearinghouse
-Caveat Lector- The bottom paragraph is the most revealing...:)Whats going to happen on Jan 1, 2000 when the end of the world hasn't come, nor will it come anytime soon. We will see new dates, theories and predictions based upon new analysis of everything from Nostradamus, to the Bible and a host of others. Various years and dates will be fingered by these so called experts from the Summer of 2000, through 2010. For the rest of us, it will be the beginning of another work year, paying our taxes and doing all the routine kind of stuff. Cheers, Robert Boston Has Millennium Clearinghouse .c The Associated Press BOSTON (AP) -- In a small office on the Boston University campus, the interests of religious zealots, UFO fans, survivalists and computer aficionados bracing for the Y2K computer bug intersect. With less than a year to go until the arrival of 2000, the Center for Millennial Studies has emerged as an academic clearinghouse for people pondering how society will make the shift to the 21st century. Will Christ make a second coming? Will good triumph over evil? Will computer glitches shut down everything from airports to Wall Street? ``We want to be the place where, in the next few years and far beyond, anyone who wants information about what occurred will look in our computers, at our files,'' Richard Landes, the center's founder, said in Saturday's editions of The Boston Globe. Last week, Landes, 49, a medieval history professor at BU, traveled to Jerusalem to spend New Year's Eve interviewing a group of fundamentalist Jews awaiting the arrival of the Messiah. He plans to also be in the holy city on Dec. 31, 1999, when thousands of pilgrims from all over the world are expected to come in anticipation of salvation, destruction or the arrival of celestial beings. Religious zealots and mainstream believers alike attach great significance to the arrival of the 21st century, although they disagree on exactly what will happen. Much attention has been given to the Y2K problem, the term coined to describe computers' inability to deal with dates after Dec. 31, 1999. However, Landes and his colleagues are tracking some more eccentric folks as well. For example, there is a group in Indonesia hunting out witches to prevent them from doing any millennial mischief. Another in the American West believe Y2K is an omen that the Earth is nearing its end, with destruction to come at the hands of aliens sent by God to punish humanity for ruining the environment. Most of the center's time is spent on more concrete matters, however. In particular, Landes says he hopes his research will persuade municipalities, businesses and individuals to take the Y2K problem even more seriously than many already do. And he says the center's monitoring of religious organizations could serve as an early warning system against violence, anti- Semitism, and other negative responses he expects from people who will disappointed when their expectations aren't realized. ``Disappointment is the big black box in millennium studies,'' says Landes, who bases this assessment on his study of previous millennial movements. ``If you think it's your movement, and God is on your side, the letdown could be enormous.'' For example, the Rev. Jerry Falwell has produced a video in which he says that ``Y2K may be God's instrument to shake this nation.'' In addition to maintaining a site on the World Wide Web, the center keeps newspaper clippings, videotapes, pamphlets and other literature produced by millennium junkies. It also publishes a quarterly newsletter, hosts a monthly discussion group, runs periodic educational programs and sponsors an annual conference. Landes figures his operation will thrive at least two more years, since the new millennium technically begins Jan. 1, 2001. And the center is already planning its conference for 2002. The tentative title: ``Disappointed Millennialism.'' AP-NY-01-02-99 1542EST DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Congressional Record: Leftist Agenda, 1963
-Caveat Lector- Consider the record of recent history; how many of these goals listed below have been achieved, and who provided the primary efforts to bring them about? If you are honest with yourself then an interesting truth will be revealed about the Left and their agenda. Clearly NOT all of these have happened, but this was recorded 34 years ago, and the trend is evident. On the Record: CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - APPENDIX January 10, 1963 Page A34-35, entered by Hon. A.S.Herlong, Jr. of Florida in the House of Representatives. I include in the Record, under unanimous consent, the following "Current ... Goals"...: Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism ... . Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. Do away with loyalty oaths. Capture one or both of the USA political parties. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy." Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the [non-Constitutional] principle of "separation of church and state." Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the grounds that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Support any socialist movement to give centralized [Federal] control over any part of culture education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions. Infiltrate and gain control of big business. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influences of parents. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites. Giving Credit where it is due. (end Congressional Record entry) --- Many proud Leftists might stand in support of most of the above goals (perhaps somewhat re-worded to be more "politically correct" in modern terms), and boast that with their guidance the Democratic Party has become the main champion of such causes, though the Left leaning members of the Republican Party would insist on some credit as well. It is not outlandish to suggest that in a more "sanitized" form the above list remains very consistent with the leadership of the modern "Left, Liberal, Democratic Party" agenda, and would be a welcome component in any definition they might offer of themselves at least among others of like mind. Perhaps some of the points are still a little too "enlightened" for the "unwashed masses" to understand, but they will be dragged along "for their own good." All in all, the timely accuracy of the above goals list is amazing in retrospect of how much of it either has been accomplished, or is still an active goal with ardent supporters working to this day. The Rest of the Story: There is a little more information about the above excerpt from the Congressional Record that helps complete the picture. The whole list above was part of a remark by A.S. Herlong Jr. as he was praising the
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I was wondering the same thing. Guess great minds think alike. Or they are small minds who sign up with ISPs which provide multiple IDs, and/or 'freebies' like Juno, Hotmail, et al, and pretend to be different people... ;-) June __, ,__)__, ,__) __, ,__) (--|__| _ ,_ ,_ (--|\ | _ (--\ | _ _ ,_ _| |(_||_)|_)(_|_| \|(/_(_|_) \|(/_(_|| (| | ,_| ((__| *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ammonium Nitrate Bust in SF
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/2/99 8:21:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 19-year Pacific Gas Electric Co. employee was being held Friday on $1 million bail on three counts of possessing an explosive device. I hate to expose my stupidity, but is it against the law to possess an explosive device. Farmers bought dynamite when I was a kid for a variety of purposes. I don't recall anybody going to jail for blasting a stump. Clue me in, please. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Real Estate and Peace
-Caveat Lector- Ah, isn't Netanyahu sweet? Could I have ever doubted his sincere dedication to PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST? And it's apparently wonderful when our business men give big bucks to candidates in other countries' elections, how come it's such a big booboo when some business man in another country wants to pass some cash to one of ours? I have such a hard time keeping up with what is currently legal or moral (or whichever is handy). Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/3/99 6:47:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I was wondering the same thing. Guess great minds think alike. Or they are small minds who sign up with ISPs which provide multiple IDs, and/or 'freebies' like Juno, Hotmail, et al, and pretend to be different people... ;-) June June is that REALLY you? LOL Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Apocalypse 2000
-Caveat Lector- The usual breathtaking insights from Michael Hoffman. -Original Message- From: Michael A. Hoffman II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Date: Friday, January 01, 1999 12:32 PM Subject: Michael A. Hoffman II on: Apocalypse 2000 Apocalypse 2000 Copyright©1999 by Michael A. Hoffman II http://www.hoffman-info.com As we approach the Year 2000 and millennial madness begins to manifest in all its amusing pagan frenzy, I am not so much interested in the claims made for what shall or shall not transpire after the great chronological divide has been crossed, but rather in what people believe about those claims. There may be little of consequence in the claim of industrial and technological collapse on Jan. 1, 2000 but if people believe a catastrophe will occur, they will by their own volition and credulity, make it come to pass. The widespread belief in and resulting panic associated with the Y2K doom scenario indicates an enormous fatigue. The denizens of the technological imperium are weary of their gadgets and believe they should be punished for using them, so they conceive of a world reduced to the Neolithic. I do not believe that a population of superior people would have any significant difficulties with ³Y2K² since the history of the West is the history of surmounting technological difficulties. I have seen some hint that a technological remedy to the Y2K computer glitch has been at hand since last summer but is being withheld. But aside from that, I am fascinating by the emergence of the cult of limitation which accompanies the mob reaction to Y2K. Suddenly man is paralyzed by two zeros. Two zeros in a Unix system will collapse western civilization. What a complete reversal of the spirit of 69, which saw German scientists Arthur Rudolf and Werner Von Braun place men on the moon. Yet this new sense of limitation is not all bad. It signifies a profound anxiety over the direction of our technological imperium as it grows increasingly alien and artificial, particularly in the pharmaceutical usurpation of agriculture and the growth of gene-manipulated modern ³foods.² But these appropriate concerns are being manipulated and diverted into mob panic. Monsanto and the other corporations who are at present the equivalent of the city-states of Medici Italy--that is to say, nations unto themselves on the British East India model--will emerge stronger after the Y2K millennial panic is in full swing, as will FEMA and the other departments of the Federal leviathan. The rulers of the age require chiefly one form of energy from the masses: fear. The chief agent of these rulers in our time is the American right wing, the greatest repository of fear and fear-mongering rumors, which almost always concern the alleged enormous power of our rulers and the dark fate they have in store for us. Being cowans and dupes, these rightists have no ³knowledge of the equilibrium,² no knowledge that fear is the glue that holds the Evil Empire together. More than an adhesive, fear is a magnet, attracting precisely that which is most feared and bringing it into materialization as reality. It is for this reason that the Bible states, ³Fear God and you need fear no other.² But the American right wing is a cesspool of fear--fear of the U.N., the FBI, Bill Clinton, the ³Jews,² and the media. They have woven these disparate forces into an invincible web of power over themselves and constantly imagine impending doom and gloom. Without even knowing it, the Right is practicing pagan sorcery by just such means. I have just described the mechanics of primitive witchcraft, or perhaps we should call this self-fulfilling prophecy, ³wishcraft.² It has been used by harlequin hucksters at market stands of the Middle Ages and in our day by Gallup pollsters, Madison Avenue advertisers and a legion of agents planted deep in the right wing as well as in the pulpits of Judeo-Churchianity, both Catholic and Protestant. To the historian this ³End Time² situation is so familiar as to be humorous. On December 31 of the year 999, at the steps of the old basilica of St. Peter¹s in Rome, a throng of weeping, cowering and trembling peasants awaited the end of the world. They fought with one another and tore at each others garments. Some had purchased various amulets and ³relics² at great cost to ward off the impending ³doom.² Others had abandoned their homes in the towns and joined strange sects preaching the end of civilization as it was known. When Apocalypse 1000 dawned on Jan. 1, it entered history with a whimper, rather than a bang and certain crypto-political forces centered deep within the Vatican and the royal houses benefited handsomely. In 999 Europe experienced war, corruption, immense political instability and a frenzied vision of Apocalypse hurtling toward the abyss. The masses were drunk on elemental fears which the chess masters of the early Middle Ages were able to harness to their own
Re: [CTRL] United States of Urantia? I don't think so.
-Caveat Lector- Hi Andrew.. The Thought Adjusters are actual spirit fragments of the Universal Father. They come to every child with a normal mind when they are about 6 years old. The first moral decision that the child makes is the signal for the arrival of the Adjuster. They are our super-conscious. We are seldom conscious of their work. Sometimes during a crisis or human calamity, they are able to break through our animal minds and directly communicate with us. They also work in our minds during sleep..the dream world is their usually distorted efforts to communicate with us. As we go through life perfecting our personality through decisions and experiences, it is the Adjusters that is the guiding influence, or they try to be. We do not have to listen to their leadings. Human will is supreme. The Adjuster's goal is to spiritualize our thinking, to make our minds and personalities more "divine" so that they can better communicate with us. It is possible for the Adjuster to directly communicate with their human subjects when the person has reached a certain level of personality perfection. Be glad you have an Adjuster Andrew, it is what sets us apart from the animals of the realm. It is these spirit fragments of the Paradise Father that make it possible for us to have eternal life. If you develop a willingness to cooperate with these Father Fragments, then after death, on the Mansions of heaven, you and your Adjuster will fuse, you will become ONE with the Father. Your eternal survival will have become a fact. Do not confuse what evil minded men inject into the human brain with what the Father has given us as His gift. They are in no way the same thing. Kinda Then thar Thought Adjusters and stuff sounds like some think tank has laid the ground work for implanting fundamentalist America. You were saying the books 30 years old - why its almost credible now ... The technology now exists to inject radio-active implants in the human being - smart chips and such - so perhaps this is a prelude ... something to help the Xtians get over the indignity of the forthcoming measures taking it all away from the number of the beast type allegations ... Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tobacco capitalists' global offensive.
-Caveat Lector- nurev forwarded: "The global perspective: a new opium war" snip While it is the responsibility of each nation to implement their own tobacco control measures, governmental and non-governmental organisations in the USA have a very special responsibility: The exemplar role - showing that 'It can be done.' The message from the USA is that smoking rates can be reduced and that litigation can have a major impact. Von Mises stated in _Human Action_: Opium and morphine are certainly dangerous, habit-forming drugs. But once the principle is admitted that it is the duty of government to protect the individual from his own foolishness, no serious objections can be raised against further encroachments. A good case could be made out in favor of the prohibition of alcohol and nicotine. And why limit the government's benevolent providence to the protection of the individual's body only? Nurev opined: This slippery slope theory is juvenile and stupid. The government might as well repeal all murder laws. Because if the gov. can tell you that you are not smart enough to know that you shouldn't kill anyone, next they'll tell you you can't have sex with children. Or even yell fire in a crowded theater. MJ: What you apparently do not understand is that one's free CHOICE to utilize opium, morphine or tobacco do NOT violate another's 'right' to his OWN life. I do realize freedom is a scary concept to many. Von Mises stated in _Human Action_: Is not the harm a man can inflict on his mind and soul even more disastrous than any bodily evils? Nurev opined: No. It's not. MJ: Really? Look at how many idiots run rampant believing THEY know better than others ... and desire the legalized use of FORCE (Government) to enact legislation supporting their delusions. Do tobacco users desire to limit the freedom of others? Von Mises stated in _Human Action_: Why not prevent him from reading bad books and seeing bad plays, from looking at bad paintings and statues and from hearing bad music? The mischief done by bad ideologies, surely, is much more pernicious, both for the individual and for the whole society, than that done by narcotic drugs. Nurev opined: Maybe bad ideologies like Von Mises' and Ayn Rand's, but otherwise you can't compare what junkies do to reading bad books and seeing bad plays. MJ: What provides *you* with the grand insight as to which ideologies are *better* than others? Or that such is incomparable with 'junkies' (whatever that might entail? Von Mises stated in _Human Action_: These fears are not merely imaginary specters terrifying secluded doctrinaires. It is a fact that no paternal government, whether ancient or modern, ever shrank from regimenting its subjects' minds, beliefs, and opinions. If one abolishes man's freedom to determine his own consumption, one takes all freedoms away. Nurev opined: I ask anyone reading this to do so out loud a few times and tell me that it isn't an absurd and illogical propagandistic trick to play upon the feeble minded. MJ: What exactly do you find so troubling? Do you not believe an individual is 'intelligent' enough to determine his own vices? Von Mises stated in _Human Action_: The naive advocates of government interference with consumption delude themselves when they neglect what they disdainfully call the philosophical aspect of the problem. They unwittingly support the cause of censorship, inquisition, intolerance, and the persecution of dissenters. Nurev opined: A study in Libertarianism at it's most adolescent. And at Ludwig's age too. How pathetic. MJ: Actually it is PURE liberalism -- in it's true state. Why the fear of freedom and liberty? Regard$, --MJ ...when men yield up the privilege of thinking, the last shadow of liberty quits the horizon. -- Thomas Paine DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hmmmmmmm
Hm...it's very telling/interesting which papers are not covering the paternity scandal with Clinton. Btw: Does anyone know of a good source/link to a concise list of Executive Orders that relate to FEMA and all that nasty stuff? I don't seem to be able to find any of the ones I had and a search yesterday on several sites showed outdated information. Hilary = Together We Create Heaven on Earth[EMAIL PROTECTED] = Come join exploration - a discussion list dedicated to keeping up-to-date on new technologies, advancements in medicine, environmental concerns, 'conspiracy theories' and, of course, UFO stuff. Discussion is encouraged. Bashing and soapboxing will get you bounced off the list. To subscribe to exploration send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Moderator: Hilary A. Thomas
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- Teo FWIW, I am NOT June. Only know her through this list. Duh !!! If you wish to hallucinate that I am her, go for it but AND A BIG BUT at that, I AM NOT JUNE AND WILL NEVER BE ANYONE BUT LYNNE so wake up and smell the roses Teo, and g et your people straight. Lynne M Giles and no one else but Lynne DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Poll Conspiracy - Public Opinion Conspiracy - Voting C...
-Caveat Lector- Jim, I have no doubts on your intellectual ability to understand, But iff'n ya want to get along , instead of continual' boxing' of people in to cute little squares of disagreemnet, I would suggest that you realize that you are wearing two very dogmatic blinders, one being Roman Catholicism and the other your liberal vs. conservative bs rhetoric. There hasn't been in anyone lifetime a 'true' 'left vs.'right' in this country. Extremist are curried along by their own agrandizement, greed and/or psychoses by forces generally beyond their ken and are USED to foment discord and move along the plans of the cryptocracy, which doesn't give a DAMN about your political or religous views. This republic stands upon the ability of rational human beings to live and let live and get along. Divisiveness and dogmatical stances are truly counter-prodcutive. To BEAT the cryptocracy it is gonna take jews, catholics, christians, hindis, hippies, conservatives, liberals, masons, soldiers, bakers, candlestickmakers, indian chiefs . . . all of US. Please learn who is the ENEMY. Oh and by the way, the MEDIA is heavily controlled. MHO Om K In a message dated 1/2/99 7:43:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But all my experience, for what it's worth, SHOUTS that liberals and establishment hacks are infinitely more resistant to restoring checks and balances than libertarians and conservatives, - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/3/99 1:03:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW, all, I only sign up with one ISP and am not using any false names. Usually it is the ones who do the accusing of doing such a thing that are actually doing it. Now to get off my soapbox and pardon me to all get out for DARING to add a bit of levity by the post I sent earlier in the day about great minds. Guess I was mistaken about some minds (now if you want to continue insults, let's go for it) Lynne I feel your pain. Bill Clinton (It's been me all along!) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Congressional Record: Leftist Agenda, 1963
-Caveat Lector- Mick, Pray tell, where does the left get its money? Why was David Rockefeller treated so well when he visited Russia; when he was after all a Capitalist, the 'opponent' of Communism? It is all a SHAM! You rail against the commies and the left and the cryptocracy has a laugh, while you carry water for 'em. Classic. Om K - In a message dated 1/2/99 11:57:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider the record of recent history; how many of these goals listed below have been achieved, and who provided the primary efforts to bring them about? If you are honest with yourself then an interesting truth will be revealed about the Left and their agenda. Clearly NOT all of these have happened, but this was recorded 34 years ago, and the trend is evident. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- sure, as if DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] What a Prison Sentence Really Means!
Original Message Follows Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:00:39 EST Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "John V. Wilmerding" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SOCKO Letter: What a Prison Sentence Really Means! Paul Wolf really understands the kind of story and point-of-view that CERJ is looking for: Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 10:31:55 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Paul Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What a prison sentence really means John - I read this on the maptalk list and thought it might interest the readers of your cerj list as well. With these writing skills, this may be Jeff Goodman's first printed op-ed piece, but I doubt it will be his last. PW Hello, I have had 8 letters tto the editor published, and finally, my first editorial. I hope that you find it interesting. I wrote many such editorials while I was incarcerated and will continue to write until this insanity ends. Please keep up the excellent work. Happy New Year, Jeff Goodman To be published Wednesday, December 30, 1998 Commentary: What a Prison Sentence Really Means Jeff Goodman When I was sent to prison, the judge mentioned just the length of my sentence. Had he included the entire scope of my punishment, he may have said it differently: "Mr. Goodman, I sentence you to take responsibility for every social ill -- past, present and future. Each time America runs out of foreign enemies, it apparently turns on itself to find more. By way of media, politics and indifference, people who break the law, good law or bad, become those enemies and are then responsible for every social malady. Whether this is logical, you are the culprit. "You are sentenced to live in a maladaptive, alien environment that defies description. You'll be stripped of your work skills, your self-worth and your humanity while at the same time face the daily threat of assault, rape, false accusations and unjustified punishment. You will live like this for seven years. If you manage to reenter society as a productive person, some will say prison was just what you needed. If not, others will say, 'I told you so.' "Because of counterproductive prison policies, you are sentenced to live in a world of cruelty and indifference that engenders the very behavior it purports to alleviate. If you share this with those outside of the prison system, you will be called a liar; most won't believe that millions are spent on the proliferation of facilities that perpetuate harm, not repair it. "You are sentenced to consume $150,000 in taxpayer dollars for your prison stay. While lawmakers cite the ever-growing cost of incarceration as a public necessity, you will learn that 10 percent of that amount goes towards your daily needs, while the other 90 percent pays for a bloated prison bureaucracy immune from any cost-benefit analysis. These tax dollars will be siphoned from school programs, child care and job training, all of which do make our communities healthy and safe and save millions in the process. Despite the media frenzy that portrays society as seething with crime, you'll learn that relatively few prisoners represent a danger to our communities; we're mad at most felons, not scared of them. So you'll wonder why the majority of prisoners aren't on home arrest, a logical move that would save millions of dollars and obviate the need for more prisons. "Practical education programs, universally proven to drastically reduce recidivism, will be almost nonexistent. In fact, you will be disciplined for possessing more than 10 books. Therefore, you will live in an environment where recidivism it tacitly encouraged, a fact not lost on those who want to run prisons for profit. "It is true that there are some counseling programs in prison and some people will benefit from them. Yet, if you attempt to describe the futility of a therapeutic environment placed within an atmosphere replete with dehumanizing policies, you will be told that your intentions are distorted and without merit. "You are sentenced to bear the wrath of a misinformed society. While you're experiencing everything I just said, you will be told how easy you have it. The media will find your Christmas meal more newsworthy than the damage caused by lawmakers who jostle for the next 'get tough' policy at the expense of society's well-being. Your privilege to have this once-a-year meal will be presented as so outrageous, a debate will ensue over which 'luxury' to take away next. Politicians will focus on violent sociopaths and pronounce their horrific crimes as a yardstick to measure the innate danger and incorrigibility of all law-breakers, including you. "Finally, as perhaps the most perverse component of your sentence, I hereby
[CTRL] CIA-Drug Report Now A Part of the Impeachment Battle
From: Robert Cherwink [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Mike Ruppert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.copvcia.com Via: Sandi Brockway / Macrocosm USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.macronet.org Subject: CIA-Drug Report Now A Part of the Impeachment Battle Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:24:02 -0800 ALERT! CIA-Drug Report Now A Part of the Impeachment Battle Michael Ruppert Receiving Death Threats There is now no doubt that Volume II of the CIA Inspector General's investigation of Contra Drug trafficking is a part of the impeachment calculus. Various sources are reporting on the net that Bill Clinton is threatening to bring down the entire government with Volume II hearings which are supposed to occur within the next three weeks. As described in the October and November issues of my newsletter From The Wilderness, ( http://www.copvcia.com ) Volume II, released October 8th is a virtual confession by the CIA that it criminally conspired, with premeditation, to traffic in cocaine during the Contra war. Long time Clinton critic, Larry Nichols, released a newsletter yesterday in which he acknowledged this scenario and attempted to cut the issue off from reaching former president George Bush. In that newsletter he stated that although Oliver North and John Poindexter (both implicated by Vol. II) were guilty of dealing drugs, they were, "rogue elements who were not a part of the 'racquet club'." This is a patently false and absurd statement intended to separate George Bush (hence his sons) from guilt in CIA's fifty years of drug dealing. Nichols is reportedly aligned politically with Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell who are both supporting George W. Bush for president in the year 2000. Evidence linking George Bush, the National Security Council and the White House directly to Contra era drug trafficking is abundant and irrefutable. It includes (just to list a few items): I. Executive Order 12333 and National Security Decision Directives 23 which placed Bush directly in control of all national security operations including drug interdiction and the contra war. II. Direct links to George Bush's staff arising from investigations into Barry Seal. III. The investigation by former Federal Public defender John Mattes which located the phone number of Bush aide Col. Menarchik in the possession of an alleged gun runner connected to drugs. IV. Gary Webb's magnificent book, Dark Alliance. V. Terry Reed's book Compromised and his witness statements to the effect that Bill Casey (i.e. George Bush) had anointed Clinton to become president if he behaved himself. VI. The written testimony of Celerino Castillo (DEA retired) www.copvcia.com in which Cele was told by U.S. Ambassador Edwin Corr that CIA drug dealing out of Ilopango airfield in El Salvador was a "White House operation." VII. The written testimony of Michael C. Ruppert www.copvcia.com in which I was told by a former NSC staffer that decisions to deal drugs were made at the NSC (White House) level. VIII.The investigation of Col. Albert Vincent Carone www.copvcia.com which shows that Oliver North's and George Bush's chief bagman had direct links to both Geo. Bush and Bill Casey. IX. The written record of Senator John Kerrey's investigation into CIA drug trafficking of eleven years ago which produced mountains of evidence linking directly to Donald P. Gregg, Geo, Bush's national security adviser. Even the CIA report itself describes special briefings for then Vice President Bush which indicate his culpability. CIA drug dealing is not an isolated or rogue event. In the U.S. v. Roy Reagan, Tucson (1998) former CIA pilot and special independent counsel Gary Eitel testified that CIA was flying drugs into Mena, AK as far back as 1972-5. In my opinion Bill Clinton is threatening to scorch the earth and to bring down the entire government. This becomes even more likely as Rep Chris Cox's House Committee looking into technology transfers to China raises the specter of treason in connection to the Clinton administration. It should be remembered that many of these transfers began under Geo. Bush and that the Bush family has extensive business investments in China. Note that Volume II of the CIA's Inspector general report www.odci.gov was released just one hour after the House Judiciary Committee voted to begin the impeachment inquiry. It was released by George Tenet, the CIA Director who is a Clinton appointee. I believe that Bill Clinton picked up the phone and ordered Tenet to release the more revealing of two versions of the report in a clear message which said, "OK, I can play that game too." The major media has ignored Volume II because it has been told to. In reviewing the events of the past four years, since Gary Webb's
[CTRL] a little on Nigeria's history
The following is a summary of two comprehensive MOSOP documents setting out the current position with respect to Ogoni, other Niger Delta communities, the Nigerian state and Shell: `A positive peace: MOSOP's vision of grass-roots justice in Ogoni and the Niger Delta' and `Ogoni Shell: why Shell must Clean Up by 2000 or Clear Out' will both be web published on Ogoni Day, January 4th 1999. "Negative peace is the absence of tension... positive peace is the presence of justice" - Dr Martin Luther King Jnr, letter from Birmingham jail, 1963. "When I travel outside Nigeria people often ask me how far away Ogoni is. I tell them it's as far as the nearest Shell service station. In a century of oil exploration the developed North of the planet has founded its way of life on petroleum, without thinking about the impact of this trade on societies in oil-producing, under-developed regions of the South. Indigenous communities like the peoples of the Niger Delta have been the worst affected. When Shell came to Ogoni in 1958 we were promised peace and prosperity. In return for $30 billion worth of oil, successive Nigerian governments and Shell have delivered poverty and pollution. When we stood up to demand our human rights to a clean environment and to choose the use of our land and its resources, we were murdered in our thousands. The petrol in the tank of your car has been paid for with our blood" - Ledum Mitee, MOSOP Acting President, December 1998. OVERVIEW: OGONI, SHELL THE NIGERIAN STATE, DECEMBER 1998 [Summary] Last updated December 30th 1998. If referring to this document later than February 28th 1999 please consult the MOSOP International Secretariat for any new update. TABLE OF CONTENTS 1. Niger Delta in crisis 2. Nigeria in `permanent transition' to democracy 3. Ogoni, Shell and the Nigerian state: building a positive peace 1. Niger Delta in crisis Although the human rights crisis in Ogoni has improved significantly in recent months, violence has spread across other oil-producing areas in the rest of the Niger Delta and Nigeria's oil-producing southwest coast since mid-September. According to Nigerian media reports this unrest has left 100s dead and has forced ten of thousands of people to flee from ethic disturbances, mostly caused by disputes over land and oil rights. According to community leaders this unrest is a direct result of the growing poverty in the Delta, caused by the lack of economic and social development and the unjust allocation of oil revenues. Armed protestors from other - non-Ogoni - Niger Delta communities hijacked oilrigs and flow stations in October 1998. Shell and other foreign oil companies operating or prospecting in Nigeria were forced to cut around one quarter of the country's oil exports in response to the crisis. A number of foreign oil workers kidnapped by armed Delta youths were released in late November [1]. A fire caused by an oil spill at Jesse, Delta State on October 18th 1998 has left at least 1000 dead. According to media reports most of the victims died as they tried to salvage crude oil from a burst pipe. The lack of basic medical provision for oil-producing communities, and a comment to journalists by military Head of State General Abubakar - visiting the scene - that victims would not receive compensation because they were `saboteurs' seem to have caused the death toll to rise. Burns victims feared arrest if they reported to international relief agency hospitals set up to cope with the emergency. In response to the deepening crisis in the Delta, General Abubakar has announced a development package, including a major road building program [2]. Many Delta community leaders point out that new roads will be of primary benefit to oil companies. What oil-producing communities need are basic health and educational provision, and investment in locally based economic development, Delta leaders say. General Abubakar has also re-instituted the discredited development board (OMPADEC), shut down by the previous military administration following allegations of serious corruption and mismanagement. Communities in the Niger Delta have dismissed the re-institution of OMPADEC as an inadequate stopgap measure. Although General Abubakar has committed himself to transition to democratic civilian rule and `national reconciliation' a statement that he: `[hopes] the oil-producing areas will realise the enormity of the problems of running a country as big as Nigeria and stop vandalising or sabotaging the operations of oil companies' has given rise to serious doubts that the current transition to democracy process will benefit minorities in oil-producing regions [3]. "The Ogoni and Niger Delta crisis presents the single greatest threat to the sustainability of democratic reform in Nigeria" - Ledum Mitee, MOSOP Acting President, to members of the Commonwealth Ministerial Action Group,
[CTRL] A Dose of Reality-Y2K
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000Lr4 or "Bad news, BAD. Bad things not happen. This America. Bad things not happen in America. " or here's the text, if you will view full screen, the formatting should be ok, maybe...kinda like y2k itself...on the link, there are responses to Paul's post on Ed Yourdon's BBS. Excellent site for Y2k, I might add. Rusty From csy2k - a dose of reality, folks... . . . . From GN's site: Comment: People reject bad news. They assume that bad events are abnormal and good events are normal. They think they deserve good news. So, they reject bad news. They put it out of their minds. They get angry at anyone who sells warnings of bad times ahead. As the prime law of infomercials says: "You can't sell prevention. You can only sell cures." For three decades, 1965 to 1995, senior men in the IT deparments feared telling senior management that a disaster was coming in 2000. They knew what the reactions would be. "That's crazy." "We'll wait until 1998 to fix it." "You're fired." A few companies got started in 1995. Citibank did. Chase Manhattan Bank did. Neither is compliant today. 1995 was too late. If it was too late for the banking system, it's too late for everything else. If the phone companies go down, the banks go down, and so do the power companies. The phone companies are far behind the banks, according to this report. Most companies have deferrred implementing a multimillion dollar repair. Now, having waited, it's too late. Corporate officers are now admitting that some processes won't be compliant. Which ones, they refuse to say. Later this year, insider selling of corporate shares will begin. That will be the sign that the end of an era is upon us. You have a head start. Don't lose it. It's almost gone. This is from FOX MARKET WIRE (Jan. 2). * * * * * * * * * * The new millennium and its much-anticipated computer bug is still a year away but many U.S. companies are already throwing in the towel. They admit they won't be ready. Companies are beginning to make such frank statements on Y2K risks to cover themselves against possible securities litigation, analysts said. The statements also provide ammunition for their own suits. Companies such as Chevron Corp. and ATT Corp. say their systems may be vulnerable to significant failures as they grapple with the Year 2000 date change. McDonald's Corp. and DuPont Co. are more confident their machines can handle the date change. They are less sure about those of suppliers and local governments. . . . "The fundamental cost of Y2K is the risk of business interruption,'' said Jeff Ray, a vice president at Compuware Corp., a leading software testing company. Companies have still not done most of the tedious and costly work to fix Year 2000 computer bugs. "It appears that over half the work will be crammed into 1999,'' said Steven Hock, chief executive of research company Triaxsys Research LLC. . . . As companies realize they and their partners may not achieve full compliance, they are planning back-up systems and looking for alternate vendors. . . . The technologically complex telecoms sector ranks dead last among all other industries in progress toward completion of Y2K projects, according to Triaxsys. Also behind are the utilities industry and the energy sector. . . . Industries leading the race are banking, securities and insurance, all of which began looking at Y2K up to 10 years ago largely because of regulatory requirements. Most telecom companies only began looking at the issue two to three years ago. . . . Link: http://www.foxmarketwire.com/wires/0102/f_rt_0102_2.sml From the above article , you can see that the work is not getting done, it has not been done and it will not be done, in time. However, we have relative newcomers like Preston Crawford and Reg Smith and ZB who have read, oh, I'd say about one one thousandth as much about Y2K as some of us. Are they entitled to their opinions, yes. We are not discussing that 'entitlement'. We are discussing the veracity of the opinions. They can not discuss the issues, because the conclusion is bad news. In their neanderthal minds they say, "Good news GOOD, Bad news, BAD. Bad things not happen. This America. Bad things not happen in America. People who say bad things happen, "BAD" people!" I understand their 'anger and their hatred and their intolerance' of the truth. More than a year and a half ago, I said that they were not moving fast enough. They said they were 'serious'. Yet the bulk of the Fortune 500 had not even finished assesments until THIS year. The federal government had a budget of $1 billion dollars. I laughed at that. Yet these were seasoned proffessionals. EXPERIENCED and COMPETENT professionals. They budgeted $1 billion for 75,000 systems. Do the math. I sat down with a piece of paper with my nine year old sona nd we went through it so
[CTRL] Thought Amplification
large download were growing. That never happened when Cheryl wasn't paying attention to them. "Cheryl, your tits..." Cheryl looked down at them. She HADN'T done it intentionally... -- Mail rec.arts.erotica submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most software will automatically mail your postings to that address.
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Teo FWIW, I am NOT June. Only know her through this list. Duh !!! If you wish to hallucinate that I am her, go for it but AND A BIG BUT at that, I AM NOT JUNE AND WILL NEVER BE ANYONE BUT LYNNE so wake up and smell the roses Teo, and g et your people straight. Lynne M Giles and no one else but Lynne Don't remember seeing any posts suggesting anything else... ...but 'methinks she doth protest too much' ... If the shoe fits, and all that June ;-) *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Kontrol
There is a growing interest in new techniques of mind control. It has been suggested that Sirhan Sirhan was the subject of post hypnotic suggestion as he sat shaking in the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles while an as yet unidentified woman held him and whispered in his ear. It has been alleged that behavior modification techniques are used on trouble prisoners and inmates, often without their consent. Dr Delgado, who stopped a charging bull by remote control of electrodes in the bull's brain, has left the US recently to pursue his subjects in Spain. Brainwashing, Psychotropic drugs, lobotomy and other more subtle forms of psychosurgery; the technocratic control apparatus of the United States has at its fingertips new techniques which if fully exploited could make Orwell's 1984 seem like a benevolent utopia. But words are still the principal instruments of control. Suggestions are words. Persuasions are words. Orders are words. No control machine so far devised can operate without words, and any control machine which attempts to do so relying entirely on external force or entirely on physical control of the mind will soon find/encounter the limits of control. A basic impasse of all control machines is this; Control need time in which to excercise control. Because control also needs opposition or acquiescence; otherwise control somehow, as by implanting electrodes in the brain, then my subject is little more than a tape recorder, a camera, a robot. You don't control a tape recorder you use it. Consider the distinction, and the impasse implicit here. All control systems try to make control as tight as possible, but at the same time, if they succeeded completely, there would be nothing to control. Suppose for example a control system installed electrodes in the brain of all prospective workers at birth. Control is now complete. Even the thought of rebellion is neurologically impossible. No police force is necessary. No psychological control is necessary, other than pressing buttons to achieve certain activations and operations. The controllers could turn on the machine, and the workers would carry out their tasks, at least they might think so. However, they have ceased to control the workers, since the workers have become machine like tape recorders. When there is no more opposition, control becomes a meaningless proposition. It is highly questionable whether a human organism could survive complete control. There would be nothing there No persons there. Life is will, motivation and the workers would no longer be alive, perhaps literally. The concept of suggestion as a control technique presupposes that control is partial and not complete. You do not have to give suggestions to your tape recorder, nor subject it to pain, coercion or persuasion. The Mayan control system, where the priest kept the all important Books of the seasons and Gods, the Calender, was predicated on the illiteracy of the workers. Modern control systems are predicated on universal literacy since they operate through the mass media, a very two edged control instrument, as Watergate has shown. Control systems are vulnerable, and the news media are by their nature uncontrollable, at least in Western Society. The alternative press is news, and alternative society is news, and as such, both are taken up by the mass media. The monopoly that Hearst and Luce once excercised is breaking down. In fact, the more completely hermetic and seemingly successful a control system is, the more vulnerable it becomes. A weakness inherent in the Mayan system was that they didn't need an army to control their workers, and therefore did not have an army when they needed one to repel invaders. It is a rule of social structures that anything that is not needed will atrophy and become inoperative over a period of time. Cut off the war game, and remember the Mayans had no neighbours to quarrel with, they lose their ability to fight. In the Mayan Caper I suggested that such a hermetic control system could be completely disoriented and shattered by even one person who tampered with the control calendar on which the control system depended more and more heavily as the actual means of force withered away. Consider a control situation: ten people in a life boat. Two armed self appointed leaders force the other eight to do the rowing while they dispose of the food and water, keeping of it for themselves and doling out only enough to keep the other eight rowing. The two leaders now need to exercise control to maintain an advantageous position which they could not hold without it. Here the method of control is force, the possession of guns. Decontrol would be accomplished by overpoewring the leaders and taking their guns. This effected, it would be advantageous to kill them at once. So once embarked on a policy of control, the leaders must continue the policy as a matter of self preservation. Who, then needs to control others??? Those who protect by
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- June I made a harmless comment wondering if it was Teo on the Art Bell show and I get a batch of hooey , comments about using multiple ISPs, wondering if I w as you and all that garbage. To me, it was an insult, There may be some people who pull that stuff but I am not one of them. So put it in your pipe and smoke it. I won't. So back off. MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES for EVEN daring to p ost to this list. I suggest you read Animal Farm, if you haven't already. I guess I am not equal, huh (for lack of a better word). At this point in time, I am seriously thinking of unseeing from this list. I WAS interested in learning something from this list. But guess I am not allowed to comment or anything like that. Guess I have "learned" my lesson-I am not allowed to add levity or any other sort of comment to this list. Lynne who is very disillusioned with this list today DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Colby Death Clinton connection? PART I
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:17:30 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: Colby Death Clinton connection? PART I Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj:Colby Death Clinton connection? PART I Date: 99-01-03 00:37:51 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren) Thanks to Marie and Pat for passing this along to me. Chilling especially when you consider the allegations of organized crime connections. Consider the stranglehold the mob has on the Russian people and links to Amerika. Did Sonny Bono and Ron Brown meet similar fate sources as Vincent Foster and William Colby? Where will Loral Corporation and Tyson Chicken fit in? Funny the IMF uses America's money to prop up Russia and it ends up going in the oligarchs pockets and missing the banks and economy. Sorry for format problems, nothing I could do short of an hour's work to clean it up. In fact, if anyone knows of a software program that will take the dead space (excuse the pun) out of the body of text leading to proper format, please let me know the solution. Darren Dear Darren: Yes, I just deleted all the "dead space" by hand - USCMike1 Original Message Subject: Colby Update Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:16:28, -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( MARIE E GUNTHER) From:Pat Owens Death by Clinton - William Colby's Mysterious Death - The Fear that Pervades Washington - by Christopher Ruddy WASHINGTON---It was March of 1996. My cell phone rang. My literary agent was on the line. "Cross Colby off the list. He's dead." "Colby is dead," I said with some shock. "Yes, I just heard on the radio he died in a car crash," my agent said. I did not know former CIA Director Bill Colby, nor did my agent. But we both knew James Dale Davidson, editor of the investment newsletter Strategic Investment. Davidson was not only an associate of Colby's, but Colby had worked for Davidson as a contributing editor for his newsletter. At the time of my agent's call, he was attempting to find a publisher for my book on the Vince Foster case. We still had no publisher, and my agent had floated the idea of William Colby writing the proposed book's foreword. This would serve several purposes. Colby, as a former CIA chief, would give the book some credibility with a publisher. Colby had been a key figure in the Watergate scandal after he refused to allow the CIA to block the FBI probe on the Watergate burglary. Colby could not be accused of being part of a right-wing conspiracy. After leaving the CIA, he argued for unilateral disarmament and became a fixture at the left-wing Institute for Policy Studies. My agent thought Colby might be open to the idea. After all, he worked for Davidson and Davidson openly claimed Foster was murdered, pointing the finger at the Clinton White House. But now the idea of a Colby foreword seemed lost. I called Davidson and asked him if he had heard the news about Colby. His voice became strained. He sounded stunned when I told him. But, of course, Colby had not died that March. He died a month later. My agent was wrong. To this day, he swears he heard something, and to this day, we laugh about the Jungian wrinkle in time. Davidson was peeved at me for the false report, as he well should have been. On April 29, 1996, the wires flashed with hot news: Former CIA Director William Colby had disappeared from his country home on the Wicomico River in Maryland. Authorities suspected he died in a canoeing accident, as his waterlogged canoe was found on the shore near his home. A week later, his body surfaced in the marsh near his home. After a perfunctory autopsy, local police authorities closed the case as an accident. Still, there were many reasons to suspect foul play. These suspicions began as soon as the initial press reports came out. As expected, the Associated Press ran the first wire story. Colby was missing and presumed drowned" the AP reported. The wire story said he died as the result of "an apparent boating accident." Quoting a source close to Mrs. Colby, who was in Texas at the time her husband disappeared, the AP stated Colby had spoke via phone with his wife on the day he disappeared. He told her he was not feeling well, "but was going canoeing anyway." This would be an important clue pointing to an accidental death, had it been true. But someone fabricated this story out of whole cloth. A week later, Colby's wife rebutted the AP report, telling the Washington Times her husband was well, and made no mention of canoeing. This initial, false report that relieved obvious suspicion was, for me, a red flag of a cover-up. Interesting too, were the obituaries being written. All detailed Colby's fabled career in
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- June FWIW , t he shoe is way to big. I am a female with small feet and the shoe is quite a bit larger, in fact, big enough so both of my fee fit into it. So, wrong shoe. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: June I made a harmless comment wondering if it was Teo on the Art Bell show and I get a batch of hooey , comments about using multiple ISPs, wondering if I w as you and all that garbage. To me, it was an insult, There may be some people who pull that stuff but I am not one of them. So put it in your pipe and smoke it. I won't. So back off. MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES for EVEN daring to p ost to this list. I suggest you read Animal Farm, if you haven't already. I guess I am not equal, huh (for lack of a better word). At this point in time, I am seriously thinking of unseeing from this list. I WAS interested in learning something from this list. But guess I am not allowed to comment or anything like that. Guess I have "learned" my lesson-I am not allowed to add levity or any other sort of comment to this list. Lynne who is very disillusioned with this list today not to worry lynne, june illicits the same response from everyone. it is not her but everyone else that has the problem. not to worry though, you are in plenty of good company. best chris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Poll Conspiracy - Public Opinion Conspiracy - Voting C...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/2/99 10:43:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am eager to hear your reply, because I have found that Clinton-type supporters invariably LOVE the current no-checks-and-balances computerized vote tallying systems. I have to admit to being more than a tad suspicious of anything which the Libertarians or conservatives find appealing. The Libertarians sound appealing because they at least have the good sense to know that locking up huge numbers of citizens for victimless crimes and squandering billion of dollars on the "war on drugs" is damaging to the nation. On the other hand, i heard much of what was said at their convention in 1996 and it became plain that the party leaders are mostly interested in avoiding taxes. They either believe that it is possible to have a society worth living in without expenses or their top priority is "let George pay for it" where George is you or me. This gives them plenty in common with those for whom the Republicans carry water despite the hypocritical moralizing by the conservatives. At this point i am not sufficiently familiar with the issue of going back to count the ballot the old fashioned way. Doubtlessly, there are certain efficiencies in automated vote counts for both time and money. There were charges of vote fraud when the ballots were still hand counted. There are questions here of the impact on the growing use of referendums that going back would have, i.e. would they still be practicable? In short, i must weasel out here and not give the court room lawyers preferred answer of yes or no. Cheers. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Taking Communism Seriously
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/3/99 2:28:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a lot is asked of native-born Americans with no experience of foreign occupation or tyranny I was initially startled to read this since native Americans flahed through my mind, who, of course, have experienced occupation and tyranny. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Congressional Record: Leftist Agenda, 1963
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/3/99 2:57:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Break down cultural standards of morality Well it sure sounds like the leftist agenda has been wholly successful among the Republicans. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] hello
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made a harmless comment wondering if it was Teo on the Art Bell show and I get a batch of hooey , comments about using multiple ISPs, wondering if I w as you and all that garbage. Teo posts asking if I was June was to ME, not to you... To me, it was an insult, There may be some people who pull that stuff but I am not one of them. So put it in your pipe and smoke it. I won't. So back off. MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES for EVEN daring to p ost to this list. You went off the deep end when I posted a simple teasing reply to your 'New England' thingy...I suggest you chill out and learn a little tolerance for teasing, get a thicker skin if you plan to spend any amount of time on the internet... I suggest you read Animal Farm, I suggest you get a life...you might find a sense of humor at the same time... At this point in time, I am seriously thinking of unseeing from this list. You can 'unsee' all you want...no one's going to stop you, nor is anyone going to beg you to 'see'... Just don't let the door slam on your way out...since you can't 'see', it might slam you on your ass... I am not allowed to add levity or any other sort of comment to this list. You wouldn't know levity if it slammed you on the ass when you 'unsee'... You seem to be someone who wishes out your own brand of 'levity', but can't take any in return... Lynne who is very disillusioned with this list today Well, don't lose sleep over it, dearie... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 1999: The Year of Surprises
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.1/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.1/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 1/A The Laissez Faire City Times January 4, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 1 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - 1999: The Year of Surprises by Zola Already 1999 is shaping up to be even more interesting than 1998. This, of course, befits a year which many newspapers have proclaimed as the "last year of the millennium." Now I hate to disappoint them, but next year, the year 2000, is the last year of the current century--where do you think the 20 comes from in "the Twentieth Century"?--as well as the last year of the millennium. The 21st Century, and the new millennium, begins on Jan. 1, 2001, two years from now. But never mind. The world is planning to have the 21st Century birthday party less than a year hence anyway, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop the process. The revelries of the party-goers will be diminished only by the caravans headed for the hills to escape the perceived social consequences of the Y2K bug. We begin the year with the US President impeached and awaiting trial in the Senate, with the Middle East political order unraveling, with Japan still in the decade-long economic dumper, with the financial system of China deteriorating so rapidly that the bureau of statistics can't fudge the numbers fast enough, with India and Pakistan in possession of nukes as they face each other over Kashmir, with Russia gang-banged by Communists, nationalists, and kleptocrats, and with the U.S. stock market pumped full of hot air and ready to circumnavigate the globe. Then there is the euro, the renamed ECU (European Currency Unit), the new money of the European Community, with its own central bank--the European Central Bank in Frankfurt, Germany. The national currencies of the eleven nations concerned are now just pieces of the euro, in much the same way that dimes and quarters and two-dollar bills are pieces of the dollar. Banking accounts, stock trades, and grocery shopping will all be denominated in the euro, although euro cash and coins won't be available until the Year 2002. The euro is just another fiat currency, of course, but it will give the dollar some competition. To the extent that world finance and trade comes to be denominated in the euro instead of the dollar, it will reduce the transactions demand for the dollar, and the Federal Reserve will lose some of its seigniorage. That's fine with us: the more constraints on the Fed the better. Clinton and his wife Hillary, the Vogue model, spent the last days of 1998 at the Renaissance Weekend in Hilton Head, S.C., where he spent a lot of time walking along the beach with his dog Buddy, if the pictures are to be believed. I believe them as much as I believe any other Clinton photo op. Bill and Hillary managed a midnight kiss to herald the New Year, the reports said. Meanwhile the tabloids were reporting the story behind the black eye Hillary gave Bill (the Secret Service had to restrain her, the story goes), a shiner we all clearly saw on television from the Rose Garden when Clinton made his post-impeachment appearance. Not content to only play with the dogs, Clinton announced a new crackdown on "deadbeat" parents. First he noted that due to his efforts, child support collections under his Administration had increased from $8 billion in 1992 to $14.4 billion in 1998. Of this amount, $1.1 billion came through the seizure of income tax refunds. This was made possible through a massive data base maintained by Health and Human Services. States report to HHS, who then collect or seize the tax funds, and perhaps also report the seizure to credit agencies. The next step in Clinton's Big Brother plan is to make it a federal crime to move to another state or the District of Columbia if child support is owed. (After all, putting a deadbeat parent into an adult- support prison solves the problem for sure.) The irony in all this, of course, is the new Clinton scandal de jour, which concerns the paternity of teenage Danny Williams. Danny's mother says that Clinton paid her for sex, and she passed a lie detector test to that effect. No problem here: for once Clinton paid the bill instead of shoplifting whatever appealed to him. But Danny's mother also says Danny is Clinton's son, and The Star is doing a DNA check. (It was The Star, you recall, who revealed to us Dick Morris' gourmet taste in toes.) Of course, Danny Williams and the question of his paternity has been around for some time, and the Arkansas State Police reacted to the publicity by killing Danny's dog. This is consistent with the Clinton modus operandi, which included the killing of Kathleen Willey's cat and the hammering of nails into the tire of her car. This is also the same presidential schmuck who talks about "stopping the politics of personal destruction." He wants others to stop, so that he can have the field all to himself. If
[CTRL] A Plebeian President
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.1/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.1/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 1/A The Laissez Faire City Times January 4, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 1 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - A Plebeian President by Jack Ryan The malaise of the American public regarding Bill Clinton's crimes is indeed troubling, but not totally unprecedented. History, as we know, has a way of rearing its ugly head to bite us all in the arse if we fail to heed its lessons. So it is with a jaundiced eye on the past that many look at the present, asking ourselves, "When will we ever learn?". Judging by the latest Clinton approval numbers, our sun may be a bloated red giant before we deem to learn from history by not repeating it. Mainly, that the rule of law supplants the rule of man. Indeed, history is replete with petty dictators and power-hungry tyrants who learned their lessons the hard way. Mr. Clinton, who sees his runaway popularity as a shield against his crimes, has taken on the aura not of a president, but of a ruler. A king. A man both above the law and, yea, above the Constitution itself. Like the competitive high jumper, each time the legal bar is raised, Mr. Clinton is there with another leap to defeat it. As of late, the constitution has become nothing more than a door mat at the entrance to the Oval Office. It appears as if the people, their heads buried in the sands of prosperity, could care less. The trains are on time, 401k's are growing like lilies in the field and--aside from occasionally pumping a billion dollars worth of cruise missiles into aspirin factories and Bedouin tents--the US is at peace. The American people, fat, intellectually lazy and over- satiated on the fruits of affluence, see no barbarians at their gates, so why rock the ship of state? The problem here is that the barbarians were never at the gates. They reside within 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and at every address from New York to Anchorage. They are us. Some on the right side of the aisle have cited the people's ambivalence as a major source of frustration. Some have even likened today's atmosphere to that of the German people's lassitude when Adolph Hitler made his play for the German chancellorship. That is a mistake, for many reasons that I won't touch on here. Mr. Clinton doesn't appear ready to unload a blitzkrieg on Quebec, or dive-bomb Mexico into submission. Suffice it to say that while Mr. Clinton is in no way comparable to Hilter in deed or beliefs, that in itself does not remove him from historical comparisons. Several months ago, whilst perusing the Free Republic web site, I read an interesting observation. (Free Republic is a conservative forum universally united in seeing to it that Bill Clinton is tarred, feathered, and if humanly possible, imprisoned in a jail cell with some 300-pound homosexual named Bruno). The post that interested me detailed Mr. Clinton's excessive use of the Executive Order function--that Clinton saw himself more a king than a constitutionally-elected head of state. Some even compared him to modern-day Julius Caesar, ruling his republic from on high. Like Caesar, William Jefferson Clinton is a charismatic, witty, calculating, and highly intelligent politician. Indeed, his savvy in the political arena has hitherto been unmatched in American politics. For reasons we may never know, Mr. Clinton has the uncanny ability to arouse undying loyalty and admiration from his followers, even the most tepid among them. Conversely, he is universally despised by those on the other side of the spectrum. With few exceptions, never has one politician managed to so thoroughly polarize two political affiliations. I found the Roman comparison interesting only in that the comparison of Clinton to Gaius Julius Caesar is akin to comparing apples to orange pits. In fact, contrasting Caesar's greatness to the self-absorbed, prepubescent, 50-something perjurer in the White House, only manages to further spotlight Bill Clinton's historical insignificance. Simply put, Bill Clinton would not have been worthy of washing Caesar's toga. Certainly there are historians whom would argue that Caesar was not above political mischief, that he was not the least bit hesitant to murder or torture his political enemies for political gain. That said, when one makes historical comparisons, one must frame them within the confines of what was acceptable behavior at the time. Caesar, for all his shrewdness, for all his political brilliance, for all his tremendous ego was no better or worse than any other politician of his time. Never one to look a gifthorse in the mouth, Caesar truly cared about the republic and the ordinary denizens of Rome--the plebes. Clinton, on the other hand, sees his rise to power as a gift from himself and his power-mad overseer, Hillary Rodham. Although only a lowly plebe from the backwaters of Arkansas, Mr. Clinton dragged his fellow
[CTRL] Going Postal--Again!
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.1/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.1/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 1/A The Laissez Faire City Times January 4, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 1 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - Going Postal--Again! by Don L. Tiggre On January 10, 1999, the United States Postal Service will do it again: torque up the prices on their most-heavily-relied-upon services. The press release from the post office gives the impression the USPS bends over backwards to show how reasonable and necessary the increases are, but ignores the fact that if there ever had been a reasonable claim offered why governments should run postal services, that claim's last remnant of credibility died with the advent of electronic data transmission. The post office's press release says: "First Class letters weighing one ounce will go up one penny, to 33 cents, while postage for the second ounce will go down a penny to 22 cents, keeping the price of a two-ounce letter at 55 cents. The cost of mailing a three-ounce letter will actually be reduced a penny, to 77 cents from 78." But the First Class one-ounce letter is the USPS cash cow, so the penny reduction in three-ounce letter postage is little more than throwing the dog a bone, after all the meat has been chewed off. The rate for the popular two-pound Priority Mail envelope will increase 20 cents to $3.20 and the half-pound Express Mail overnight delivery rate will go up a dollar, to $11.75. The release adds: "The average increase across all classes of mail is 2.9 percent-the lowest rate increase ever." Perhaps so, but it's still an increase, and the government does not allow competition to determine if the prices are reasonable in the first place, let alone whether or not they need to increase. Consider the tone of the excuse to post office offers for jacking up its prices: "The new rates also include new product features, such as bulk insurance and package discounts. Another feature, delivery confirmation for Priority Mail and Parcel Post shipments, will be available in late spring 1999.. The rate increase is just enough to fund further Postal Service investments in buildings, vehicles, and equipment and to ensure that mail service continues to improve." Clearly sensitive to angry reactions among postal patrons, the post office tells us that the money will be used to pay for expenditures which competitive businesses bear all the time--just to stay in the market place. Faced with stiff competition, many businesses make such improvements in plant, equipment, and increased services, while reducing prices. Besides, if, as they claim, they really need cash to cover operating expenses, why don't they just use the funds currently spent on expensive advertisements like their Olympic sponsorships? They are a monopoly providing a service that is in great demand; they'll get their business without wasting money on advertising. The inescapable truth for post office officials in this country, as well as others, is that as long as they enjoy a government-enforced monopoly, there is no way to evaluate their services. There is no way to know if the prices are fair, since there is no freedom for the prices to fluctuate in a competitive market place. There is no way to know--but every reason to doubt--whether price increases are actually necessary to cover the costs of doing business, because coercively enforced monopolies are essentially not businesses. So, as we start a new year and approach a new millennium, wading deeper into the Information Age, it is time to ask again why postal monopolies still exist. Morally, of course, nothing has changed since Lysander Spooner's day. The existence of any state-run enterprise, let alone a state-run monopoly, does violence to honest business people and abuses the supposedly sanctioned powers of just government. That aside, the practical objections to postal monopolies are as valid as ever. Here in the U.S., the postal service claims to be more business-like. They describe themselves as a "quasi-governmental" agency and say they are nothing like the old post office which received direct government subsidies, pre-1970. They say that since they have to make all their money serving the people who step up to the counter or leave mail in a mail box, they are much more customer-oriented. It says so, right there in their manuals. However, as anyone who lives in the U.S. can testify, going to the post office is anything but like going to a real business. The appearance of mission statements, five-minute guarantees and rhetoric about heeding three "voices" (the customer's, the employee's, and that of the business) has not really made the USPS customer- oriented. For example, a recently mailed book package was returned tattered and torn. The book was intact, so the customer didn't complain. Then a second book was returned, and the package looked like it had been through a war
[CTRL] What It Means To Be a Libertarian - a book review
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.1/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.1/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 1/A The Laissez Faire City Times January 4, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 1 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - What It Means To Be a Libertarian a book review by Sunni Maravillosa I read Charles Murray's latest book, What it Means to be a Libertarian: A Personal Interpretation, expecting an academic treatment of libertarianism. He is, after all, co- author (with Richard Herrnstein) of The Bell Curve, a controversial examination of intelligence and its role in shaping American society. I expected an analysis and history of differing views of the freedom philosophy, with some personal observations thrown in, and all presented in dry, formal tones. I sure didn't get what I expected! What it Means to be a Libertarian: A Personal Interpretation focuses squarely on Murray's views of libertarianism, and his vision of a workable libertarian society. Murray's primary target is federal government--he advocates eliminating or reducing government intervention in agriculture, energy, housing, transportation, commerce, and communications, along with more general suggestions for getting the government out of people's private lives. However, Murray doesn't call for total elimination of the federal government--as some libertarians do--and seems to think that state and local governments are somehow necessarily less intrusive than the bureaucrats in Washington, DC. The book is very light on analysis, and very heavy on Charles Murray's opinions, ideas, and conclusions. The tone of What it Means to be a Libertarian: A Personal Interpretation was also a pleasant deviation from the expected. It's a very readable book, with very little jargon. It does not present a specific, detailed plan of implementation; Murray blends ideas and suggestions for action nicely into a concise package. In the introduction, Murray states that his purpose is to explain how libertarians "can believe that the less government, the better", along with other "how" and "why" questions that arise. He does so quite well, and in a manner that will be palatable to most individuals unfamiliar with the movement. Murray guides, gently and deftly, through the major arguments libertarians have been presenting for many years. His smooth, conversational style can make it easy for a reader to overlook the flaws in the book. The major shortcoming is an idea that many libertarians seem to hold--that the federal government is "worst" when it comes to limiting freedom. It is true that the federal government is of necessity larger than state and other, more localized levels of government, and therefore impacts more individuals. In terms of limiting freedoms, however, it doesn't matter to an innocent person whose property was seized under asset forfeiture whether the law allowing it is federal, state, or local in origin. To focus on federal government might be acceptable as a first tactic in creating a freer society, but to do so in a presentation of principles creates a target for skeptics and opponents. Murray, in his gentle handling of issues, also avoids many areas that are divisive among libertarians. Whether this is a flaw or not will depend upon the reader's perspective. If one is unfamiliar with libertarianism and wants an introduction to the freedom philosophy, What it Means to be a Libertarian: A Personal Interpretation will provide much to think about. If one is expecting a more thorough, probing work for a libertarian audience, the book will disappoint. If the former is Murray's intended audience, he's scored a near bull's-eye. His personal approach and accessible style make the topic easily digestible to someone interested in learning the fundamental ideas of the freedom philosophy. Murray also leaves room for people to see interpretations other than his. The book is well-suited as an introduction to libertarianism; a libertarian can share this book with someone interested in these ideas, and then follow up with discussion. The reaction of libertarians to his approach will, predictably, vary, depending upon how closely their interpretation of libertarianism lines up with Murray's. Some of his suggestions--such as school vouchers and taxes to support other, "vital" functions of government--are sure to raise the ire of libertarians who apply the Non-Aggression Principle very broadly. Even so, Murray's book offers value irrespective of one's position within the libertarian continuum. For those who accept "limited government" and "work within the electoral system for change" arguments, it is a well-written presentation of ideology and general action. For those who think tactical compromise is a betrayal of principles, it represents a challenge to think about that position more precisely, as well as how to present it honestly, yet non-threateningly, to individuals who are receptive to the freedom
[CTRL] Thought Adjuster Implants
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Jan 99 , Andrew wrote: Then thar Thought Adjusters and stuff sounds like some think tank has laid the ground work for implanting fundamentalist America. You were saying the books 30 years old - why its almost credible now ... In the Gurdjieff work there is also a "thought adjuster"-- whimsically called (in Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson) the Organ Kundabuffer. The stated purpose of this organ is protective, since Gurdjieff states that if humans knew their real position and condition in the Universe, they would not be able to bear to live. It also seems to relate to kundalini--which Eastern tradition tells us needs to be "awakened" in order for humans to have "full consciousness. Waking up is the stated purpose of the Gurdjieff work, so one would have to assume that by the time one managed to "wake up" (by removing the buffer that closes off the kundalini), one would be sufficiently evolved that one could bear to live with whatever knowledge awaited. Of course, Gurdjieff also "taught" that the earth has been almost completely destroyed four times and that many of the people now living on earth whom we would consider "primitive" are the sad and lost remnants of highly evolved civilizations who lived on the earth previous to our time. This is a curious "backward" view of history, since it regards previous civilizations as having been vastly superior to our own. So much for "progress." Colin Wilson's "The Outsider" is loosely based on the Gurdjieffian teachings and is probably more accessible than Gurdjieff's own writings, which were deliberately obfuscated by the author to make reading and deciphering them next to impossible. Talk about elitism! LOL!! Of course, you have to hand it to Gurdjieff who, writing in the 50s, presented the author of his book as a person traveling on a space ship, about to visit earth while making a kind of galactic tour. He must surely have had a sense of humor. And yes, I've read The Morning of the Magicians. In fact, I believe I was the one who recommended it to Brother Blue. :)) sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CIA Cocaine Smuggling Crack Epidemic
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.1/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.1/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 1/A The Laissez Faire City Times January 4, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 1 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - CIA Cocaine Smuggling Crack Epidemic a book review by Uri Dowbenko "Dark Alliance" was originally the title of a series of newspaper articles by San Jose Mercury reporter Gary Webb (August 18, 1996). It had a strong lead, a powerful introduction, and it's still an accurate summary of the story. "For the better part of a decade, a Bay Area drug ring sold tons of cocaine to the Crips and Bloods street gangs of Los Angeles and funneled millions in drug profits to a Latin American guerilla army run by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, a Mercury News investigation has found. This drug network, federal records show, opened the first pipeline between Colombia's cocaine cartels and black neighborhoods of Los Angeles, a city now known as the crack capital of the world. The cocaine it brought into the United States fueled the crack explosion in urban America and the simultaneous rise to power of the murderous gangs of black L.A." Did the Nicaraguan Contras really use cash from cocaine sold in the US? Did CIA- sanctioned Nicaraguan drug smugglers flood the inner cities of America with crack cocaine? The answer to both questions is Yes. In its new book-length incarnation, Dark Alliance by Gary Webb is a heavily referenced history of how the CIA engineered the high-volume U.S. cocaine invasion in the 1980s. This is a classic market study. Saturate the market with low-cost cocaine. Produce mass market "crack" in South Central Los Angeles. Make big bucks. Go to jail (if you're not protected by a high-level CIA coverup.) "Freeway" Ricky Ross, a young entrepreneurial black guy, and hundreds of other crack dealers are in jail. Danilo Blandon and Norwin Meneses are the Nicaraguan CIA assets who keep getting "get out of jail free" cards. Dark Alliance is a bombshell of a book, meticulously researched and entertainingly written. Investigative reporter Webb delivers the goods -- solid evidence about Contra/CIA/cocaine trafficking. First, there was the newspaper story, supplemented by website documentation and evidence, and then the book. Webb writes that "unlike all the previous stories about the Contras and cocaine, this one couldn't be killed off in the traditional manner, by Big Media ignoring it or relegating it to a news brief. Millions of people were finding out about Dark Alliance anyway, even though not a word had appeared in the so-called national press." Enter the Internet and the San Jose Mercury Website which spread the information quickly around the world, before it could be "spiked", or put out of circulation by CIA asset-publishers. "Because the story had what I called a high unbelievability factor, I wanted to use the Mercury's Web site, Mercury Center, to help document the series," writes Webb. "I wanted us to put our evidence up on the Internet, so readers could see our documents and reports, read the grand jury transcripts, listen to undercover DEA tapes, check our sources and make up their own minds about the validity of the story. After seeing the government's reaction to the Contra-cocaine stories of the 1980s. I didn't want to be caught in the old `officials-say-there's-no-evidence' trap." The story received rave reviews. HotWired wrote, "Dark Alliance is making digital and media history. The Mercury News is demonstrating for perhaps the first time how the Web and the traditional press can fuse to good effect -- and that there's still a chance to break modern media's parochial instincts and return some power to journalists outside Washington and New York." Webb writes, "If there was one thing scarier to corporate journalism than the series itself, it was the image of the future where Big Media was unable to control the national agenda." On his own website computer consultant J. Orlin Grabbe writes that "a democratic revolution similar to Gutenberg's is taking place today in the transmission and presentation of news. The Internet in general and the World Wide Web in particular undermine the authority of the priestly caste of editors presiding over the New York Times. The Internet's information transmission mechanisms bypass and make a mockery of the highly selective news filters imposed at CNN. Original news, research and opinion -- both the good and the bad - - often goes from the producer to consumer unadulterated." Grabbe's own research on former DEA agent Cele Castillo produced a story called "The Coke Was Stored in Hangars 4 and 5". Once Webb's story hit the fan, a cover story, counterattack and media spin were launched by the CIA-connected Mega-Media Cartel. Webb found out that the "journalist" attacking his credibility and the verities of his story was Washington Post writer Walter Pincus, who bragged about being on the
[CTRL] Maxine Waters Keeps CIA-Contra-Crack Ties On The Agenda
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.parascope.com/index.htm A HREF="http://www.parascope.com/index.htm"ParaScope: Something Strange is Happening!/A - Conspiracy Newsline Maxine Waters Keeps CIA-Contra-Crack Ties On The Agenda Need something to look forward to in the coming year in Congress besides impeachment? California Rep. Maxine Waters is making sure that the CIA-contra-crack issue stays on the legislative agenda. In the midst of impeachment madness, Waters called on House Intelligence Committee Chairman Porter Goss to hold investigative hearings into the CIA's complicity with Contra drug traffickers. "While the House Judiciary Committee continues to deliberate about the constitutional significance of trying to hide a private, extramarital affair, the CIA recently released a report that suggests further action against highest level Reagan Administration officials should have been pursued," Waters said in a statement. "This should be at the very top of the agenda for legislative business when the House Intelligence Committee reconvenes in the 106th Congress." Waters believes, as do many other observers, that the findings of a CIA internal review into allegations of drug trade involvement, "confirmed the CIA knew of Contra drug trafficking and chose to continue to work with and support the drug traffickers on their payroll." Waters called the CIA Inspector General's Report a "remarkable reversal and admission of guilt by an agency that had always vehemently denied any knowledge of or involvement with drug trafficking." "I was not surprised that the CIA employees who were in the field during the Contra war denied that they were supporting known drug traffickers when interviewed by the Inspector General," Waters noted. "These same employe es face potential criminal prosecution if found to have knowingly supported drug traffickers in their singular pursuit of overthrowing the Contras." "I was surprised at the number of sources cited in the Inspector General's Report that confirm the CIA knew of and covered up Contra drug trafficking because of the central role so many of these Contra drug runners played in the anti-Sandinista effort. The following is the text of the letter Rep. Waters sent to Porter Goss: The Honorable Porter J. Goss Chairman Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence H405 Capitol Washington, DC 20515 November 30, 1998 Dear Chairman Goss: As the House Permanent Select Intelligence Committee considers its legislative business for the 106th Congress, I urge the Committee to place the investigation into the allegations of U.S. intelligence involvement with Contra drug trafficking at the top of its agenda. I believe the dramatic new developments in this ongoing scandal make it imperative that the House Intelligence Committee hold full public hearings to be able to fully and adequately complete its investigation. I ask you to set a date for the commencement of these hearings as soon as possible after the start of the 106th Congress. The facts detailed in Volume II of the CIA Inspector General's Report suggest that further action against high level Reagan Administration officials and CIA officials should have been pursued. The Select Intelligence Committee should take immediate steps to pursue these new revelations. Remarkably, the declassified version of Volume II confirmed many of the key allegations of CIA and Reagan Administration support for Contra drug trafficking to the U.S. This is remarkable because of the long-standing policy of the CIA to deny any involvement with or knowledge of drug trafficking by the Contras and their supporters. In short, it is a complete reversal of the CIA's stated position to the public, press, and of course, Congress. The Washington Post reported the new revelations on November 3 with the headline "CIA Ignored Tips Alleging Contra Drug Links, Report Says," while the New York Times covered this damning report on October 10 stating "C.I.A. Said to Ignore Charges of Contra Drug Dealing in '80s." A number of other national and regional news organizations ran stories acknowledging the fact that the CIA's Inspector General confirmed the CIA knew of Contra drug trafficking and chose to continue to work with and support the drug traffickers on their payroll. Extensive new evidence revealed The declassified version of the Report released by the CIA Inspector General described how the CIA knew, at the highest level, that the Contra rebels intended to sell drugs in the United States to finance its war efforts. The Report details the voluminous evidence that the CIA and the Reagan Administration possessed regarding drug trafficking by CIA assets, contractors and individual supporters involved in the Contra movement. This evidence included some 1,000 cables sent to CIA headquarters in Langley alleging drug trafficking by at least 58 Contra leaders, 14 Contra pilots on the CIA payroll, CIA contractors and front companies, and the terrorist organization that
Re: [CTRL] Poll Conspiracy - Public Opinion Conspiracy - VotingC...
-Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: I have to admit to being more than a tad suspicious of anything which the Libertarians or conservatives find appealing. The Libertarians sound appealing [snip] much of what was said at their convention in 1996 and it became plain that the party leaders are mostly interested in avoiding taxes. They either believe that it is possible to have a society worth living in without expenses or their top priority is "let George pay for it" where George is you or me. I believe you have Libertarianism mixed up with anarchy and the current system, socialism. Libertarians only want "George" to pay for what "George" uses, without any help from the rest of us. At this point i am not sufficiently familiar with the issue of going back to count the ballot the old fashioned way. Doubtlessly, there are certain efficiencies in automated vote counts for both time and money. Yes, its the same kind of "efficiencies" that regulate what percentage slot machines return to the suckers that play them... Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SnoOwl: Thought Adjuster: Hiding the harvest
-Caveat Lector- SnoOwl: Have you seriously considered what type of information this device, or organ, is supposed to suppress? Could it be that the earth and its inhabitants are *almost* destroyed every twenty-thousand years or so in the deliberate attempt, by outside forces, to "harvest" human beings for the later consumption of a superior race? Could it be that the sole purpose for our existence is to be some sort of "cattle" for the gods, and that this is the "information" to which we have been blocked? Ever see Life Force? I am only being HALF sarcastic. This is a theory that I have toyed with for years. Edward The stated purpose of this organ is protective, since Gurdjieff states that if humans knew their real position and condition in the Universe, they would not be able to bear to live. It also seems to relate to kundalini--which Eastern tradition tells us needs to be "awakened" in order for humans to have "full consciousness. Waking up is the stated purpose of the Gurdjieff work, so one would have to assume that by the time one managed to "wake up" (by removing the buffer that closes off the kundalini), one would be sufficiently evolved that one could bear to live with whatever knowledge awaited. Of course, Gurdjieff also "taught" that the earth has been almost completely destroyed four times and that many of the people now living on earth whom we would consider "primitive" are the sad and lost remnants of highly evolved civilizations who lived on the earth previous to our time. This is a curious "backward" view of history, since it regards previous civilizations as having been vastly superior to our own. So much for "progress." Colin Wilson's "The Outsider" is loosely based on the Gurdjieffian teachings and is probably more accessible than Gurdjieff's own writings, which were deliberately obfuscated by the author to make reading and deciphering them next to impossible. Talk about elitism! LOL!! Of course, you have to hand it to Gurdjieff who, writing in the 50s, presented the author of his book as a person traveling on a space ship, about to visit earth while making a kind of galactic tour. He must surely have had a sense of humor. And yes, I've read The Morning of the Magicians. In fact, I believe I was the one who recommended it to Brother Blue. :)) sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om []===[] "Go for goats, Bill. They don't talk." Yasser Arafat http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet. Subscribe to Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 []===[] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DIGEST SUBSCRIBERS - CTRL-Digest has been changed to daily, instead of weekly.
Howdy do. I hope is isn't a problem. There doesn't seem to be the mechanism to offer both, but we have had request for a daily digest version. So, now CTRl has a daily digest available. Individual users may set the digest mode by sending an email: SET CTRL DIGest to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Information on digest editions can be found at http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/user/user.html page 14
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Re: [CTRL] Elizabeth Dole May Run For President
Plus she is already senile and wacky. D -Original Message- From: Daniel Holly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Elizabeth Dole May Run For President She's wasting her time and money but so what? She has money to burn. She's an idiot and the women's groups look bad with the way they sucked up to Klepton. D -Original Message- From: Hilary Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 7:44 PM Subject: [CTRL] Elizabeth Dole May Run For President Report: Dole to Leave Red Cross Sunday, January 3, 1999; 6:42 p.m. EST WASHINGTON (AP) -- Elizabeth Dole is planning to step aside as president of the American Red Cross in a step her political supporters hope will lead to her running for president, Newsweek magazine reported. The magazine reports in its Jan. 11 edition, portions of which were released Sunday, that one of Mrs. Dole's close advisers described her decision as a ``first step'' toward a possible campaign for the Republican nomination, but also called it a ``nonpolitical event.'' Red Cross officials would not confirm the report but announced late Sunday that Mrs. Dole would make a ``major'' announcement Monday at 2 p.m. EST in Washington. Newsweek had reported that she was expected to meet over the weekend with the executive committee of the Red Cross prior to a Monday announcement of her plans. Mrs. Dole's husband, former Sen. Bob Dole of Kansas, was the GOP presidential nominee in 1996 and she has consistently scored high in public opinion polls as a potential candidate. Earl Cox, national campaign manager of Draft Elizabeth 2000, declined to say whether he knew anything about Mrs. Dole leaving the Red Cross. ``If indeed that is the situation, it's encouraging,'' he said. Cox added that he plans to be in Washington on Monday before spending the rest of the week in Vermont and New Hampshire to campaign for the Dole draft movement. © Copyright 1999 The Associated Press = Together We Create Heaven on Earth [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Come join exploration - a discussion list dedicated to keeping up-to-date on new technologies, advancements in medicine, environmental concerns, 'conspiracy theories' and, of course, UFO stuff. Discussion is encouraged. Bashing and soapboxing will get you bounced off the list. To subscribe to exploration send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Moderator: Hilary A. Thomas
Re: [CTRL] [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities in Space. (fwd)
Just don't let Saddam become mayor. He'll start all kinds of wars against other cities for no reason. A ziggurat city needs proper government and that excludes crazed Iraqis. Only Russkies and Mexicans are allowed on US space missions. Loony Iraqis[that means all Iraqis] need not apply Dano -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities in Space. (fwd) On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Daniel Holly wrote: Only one answer. Lunar ziggurats with controlled atmosphere... Like in Total Recall. By george, Dano, you've got it. See http://www.victorycities.com FWP. -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:32 PM Subject: [CTRL] [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities in Space. (fwd) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:27:54 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities in Space. From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Call it curiosity...if one were to build cities on the Moon as the Artemis Project wants to do or anywhere else off-panet does it make any substantial difference as to what the "religionists" and their clergy have to say or not concerning their structure and functioning? FWP. *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send "Subscribe Future-Cities" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex *** To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. *** With world population increasing at almost 100,000,000/year what will cities of the next century and next millenium be like? *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send "Subscribe Future-Cities" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex ***
Re: [CTRL] [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities (2/2). (fwd)
I want to reply to all the other .orgs in your super spam mailing .Could you please supply their addresses? THANX Danno -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:41 PM Subject: [CTRL] [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities (2/2). (fwd) You should know better than to encourage me by replying dano -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:03:12 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities (2/2). From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:04:01 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Future-Cities] EPCOT. From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am watching Larry King interview his three septagenarian guests (Carter, Downs, Graham) but I don't see a-call in number so I'll email this. Which of your guests met Walt Disney when he was alive and what is their opinion of Disney's plan to make EPCOT a model city for typical Americans? IMO America would be twice the country it is today if Disney had lived 10 years longer because of EPCOT. Also since you have discussed religion a lot with your guests please ask them if such a city would set a better example for all Americans if it were inhabited by religious people. FWP. *** British Columbia-the world's first direct electronic democracy under development http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/BCPolitics; http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex *** To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. *** With world population increasing at almost 100,000,000/year what will cities of the next century and next millenium be like? *** To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. *** With world population increasing at almost 100,000,000/year what will cities of the next century and next millenium be like? ***
Re: [CTRL] [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities in Space. (fwd)
You're the SPAMINATOR. The US should fire some cruise missiles up yours... where the sun don't.. PS We still have some leftover. D -Original Message- From: Daniel Holly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities in Space. (fwd) Just don't let Saddam become mayor. He'll start all kinds of wars against other cities for no reason. A ziggurat city needs proper government and that excludes crazed Iraqis. Only Russkies and Mexicans are allowed on US space missions. Loony Iraqis[that means all Iraqis] need not apply Dano -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities in Space. (fwd) On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Daniel Holly wrote: Only one answer. Lunar ziggurats with controlled atmosphere... Like in Total Recall. By george, Dano, you've got it. See http://www.victorycities.com FWP. -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:32 PM Subject: [CTRL] [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities in Space. (fwd) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:27:54 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Future-Cities] Theocratic Cities in Space. From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Call it curiosity...if one were to build cities on the Moon as the Artemis Project wants to do or anywhere else off-panet does it make any substantial difference as to what the "religionists" and their clergy have to say or not concerning their structure and functioning? FWP. *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send "Subscribe Future-Cities" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex *** To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. *** With world population increasing at almost 100,000,000/year what will cities of the next century and next millenium be like? *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send "Subscribe Future-Cities" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex ***
Re: [CTRL] hello
Teo, I hope you're happy! If you hadn't called in to Art Bell this catfight would never have happened! Jim In a message dated 1/3/99 6:17:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made a harmless comment wondering if it was Teo on the Art Bell show and I get a batch of hooey , comments about using multiple ISPs, wondering if I w as you and all that garbage. Teo posts asking if I was June was to ME, not to you... To me, it was an insult, There may be some people who pull that stuff but I am not one of them. So put it in your pipe and smoke it. I won't. So back off. MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES for EVEN daring to p ost to this list. You went off the deep end when I posted a simple teasing reply to your 'New England' thingy...I suggest you chill out and learn a little tolerance for teasing, get a thicker skin if you plan to spend any amount of time on the internet... I suggest you read Animal Farm, I suggest you get a life...you might find a sense of humor at the same time... At this point in time, I am seriously thinking of unseeing from this list. You can 'unsee' all you want...no one's going to stop you, nor is anyone going to beg you to 'see'... Just don't let the door slam on your way out...since you can't 'see', it might slam you on your ass... I am not allowed to add levity or any other sort of comment to this list. You wouldn't know levity if it slammed you on the ass when you 'unsee'... You seem to be someone who wishes out your own brand of 'levity', but can't take any in return... Lynne who is very disillusioned with this list today Well, don't lose sleep over it, dearie... June
Re: [CTRL] hello
Was he the one with the Chupacabra in his prediction? D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] hello Teo, I hope you're happy! If you hadn't called in to Art Bell this catfight would never have happened! Jim In a message dated 1/3/99 6:17:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made a harmless comment wondering if it was Teo on the Art Bell show and I get a batch of hooey , comments about using multiple ISPs, wondering if I w as you and all that garbage. Teo posts asking if I was June was to ME, not to you... To me, it was an insult, There may be some people who pull that stuff but I am not one of them. So put it in your pipe and smoke it. I won't. So back off. MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES for EVEN daring to p ost to this list. You went off the deep end when I posted a simple teasing reply to your 'New England' thingy...I suggest you chill out and learn a little tolerance for teasing, get a thicker skin if you plan to spend any amount of time on the internet... I suggest you read Animal Farm, I suggest you get a life...you might find a sense of humor at the same time... At this point in time, I am seriously thinking of unseeing from this list. You can 'unsee' all you want...no one's going to stop you, nor is anyone going to beg you to 'see'... Just don't let the door slam on your way out...since you can't 'see', it might slam you on your ass... I am not allowed to add levity or any other sort of comment to this list. You wouldn't know levity if it slammed you on the ass when you 'unsee'... You seem to be someone who wishes out your own brand of 'levity', but can't take any in return... Lynne who is very disillusioned with this list today Well, don't lose sleep over it, dearie... June
[CTRL] FWD: BC's manipulation of religion
This book is available at http://www.amazon.com A friend sent me the following, but he did not have the hyperlink to the story. I think he just typed this from the hard copy. He says: A longer version of the article re this book on Clinton appeared in the Sat. Jan. 2 issue of the Marin Independent Journal, page D 10. It was written by John Hanchette of the Gannett News Service. Other contributors to the book are: Jean Bethke Elshtain, Max Stackhouse, Stanley Hauerwas, Robert Jewett, Stephen Carter, Andrew Sullivan. A book of essays, published in December and edited by a liberal who voted for Clinton twice, questions Clinton's manipulation of religion. Shelby Steele is one of the contributors. "WE BELIEVE THAT SERIOUS MISUNDERSTANDINGS OF REPENTANCE AND FORGIVENESS ARE BEING EXPLOITED FOR POLITICAL ADVANTAGE. THE RESULTING MORAL CONFUSION IS A THREAT TO THE INTEGRITY OF AMERICAN RELIGION AND TO THE FOUNDATIONS OF A CIVIL SOCIETY." "Judgment Day at the White House" A Critical Declaration Exploring Moral Issues and the Political Use and Abuse of Religion Edited by Gabriel Fackre Eerdmans Publishing Co., Grand Rapids, Mich. 190 pages, $12.00 Editor Gabrial Fackre voted for Clinton in 1992 and 1996, and considers himself a loyal Democrat. Earlier this decade he authored a book warning of the rise of the religious right. Professor emeritus of Christian theology at the prestigious Andover Newton Theological School near Boston, Fackre said, "We have been troubled by both the high-profile religious pleas to 'forgive and forget' and by the war cries of the religious right." Fackre opens the book with a three-page declaration from 157 signers, many of whom are self-declared proponents of Clinton policies and from recognized bastions of liberal political thought. In their declaration they express doubt in President Clinton's "spiritual sincerity." More than 150 Christian moralists, theology professors and ethics scholars have published a withering protest of President Clinton's "manipulation of religion and debasing of moral language" during the ongoing national discussion about his impeachment. Fackre said that reaction to the declaration has been somewhat predictable: "We are already getting flak for it from our colleagues in academia and religion. What hurts the most is the response from my own colleagues in mainstream churches. They ask, 'How could you dissent from what is apparent, that Clinton has done great good in public issues? You are being used by Republicans for their own devices." ___ Regards, Allan J. Favish http://members.aol.com/AllanF8702/page1.htm
Re: [CTRL] hello
Jim But remember it was Jane who decided to do her usual "teasing" and really got the ball rolling. But then from what I gather, she's the one who thinks and feels that she is always right Lynne PS can anyone tell me which chat rooms on AOL I supposedly (according to the gospel of Jane) that I go to??? Inquiring minds (lilke mine) would like to know.vbg
[CTRL] Fw: Many sickened after Calif. wildfires
-Caveat Lector- This email address isn't operating now for Johh Quinn. -Original Message- From: NewsHawk Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, 30 October 1999 8:46 Subject: Many sickened after Calif. wildfires 10.29.99 Many sickened after Calif. wildfires NewsHawk® Inc. The numbers are still coming in, but preliminary research as well as a deluge of accounts from local north/northwestern Calif. sources indicate a SIGNIFICANT "epidemic" of "flu-like" respiratory-related ailments afflicting a goodly percentage of the regional population, following weeks of a vast pall of smoke covering skies in nearly 2/3 of the state at times. While certainly smoke from the dozens of often unchecked, un-combated woodland fires could certainly in and of itself precipitate respiratory distress in many people, OTHER simultaneous symptoms noted by many of those affected included dizziness, nausea, headaches, bloody noses (LOTS!), tiredness, and other peculiarities. Some folks indicated they felt perhaps chemicals used in firefighting could cause some of the symptoms... a logical possibility--except that in fact many of the LARGEST blazes burned literally UNCHECKED--in some cases for MONTHS. We speak from personal experience of several fires in Trinity County which went on for at least 2 1/2 months before being doused by recent rains--finally! (gasp, gasp). So, no (standard) firefighting chemicals would have been in the smoke and fumes covering the sky in THAT area; yet this area has indeed yielded a good number of the reports of odd illnesses. However, huge banks of smoke also inundated more populated regions in the Bay Area, Sacramento/San Joachin Valleys and the central coast, so what's going on in these areas with bizarre, unexplained illnesses cropping up needs to be researched as well. A point to keep in mind here is that with few exceptions the infernos in California were started by people--in most cases DELIBERATELY, investigators believe. The point to this BEING--as was raised by respondent Marta St. Augustine in regard to a similar situation in Denver a couple of days ago--is whether the smoke from "wildfires" (probably deliberately started, as were most of the Calif. blazes) might be used as a cover and/or a means to get bio/chem warfare substances into the air in a targeted region. Perhaps substances could be mixed into standard firefighting chemicals without the knowledge of firefighting crews; or, perhaps a targeted "fire zone" is pre-doused by aircraft with bio/chem substances and THEN set ablaze by an arsonist--probably mind-controlled. More to come if and when the story develops further. NewsHawk® Inc. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for that Terry, that was a very profound contribution. I guess I'll just have to listen a little harder to Satanic messages in "Fashion","Blue Jean" and "Sound Vision". BD DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass
-Caveat Lector- Whether it will be capitalist or communist seems to be an unresolved side issue. This is a false dichotomy. "Communism" is nothing more than state monopoly capitalism.To learn about REAL communism read Acts: 2:44-46. No way nessie. The differences between capitalism (monopoly or otherwise) and communism are profound. This "state monopoloy capitalism" is the sort Orwellian wordplay which seeks to obfuscate the real differences between capitalist economies where consumer demand, private ownership and profit incentives guide the economy delivering the society of plenty that most of us live in, and communist economies where state planning, state ownership, and state direction, delivers shortages, sloth and apathy. Of course, if you think you can convince someone who has lived in a Communist country that the material reality of their lifestyle was no different from life in the "state monopoly capitalist" US go ahead. And another thing, the use of the term "state monopoly capitalist" reeks of the sort of backsliding wordplay one even gets from my favourite bugbear, Noam Chomsky, who in his socialist idealism, regularly redefines the former Communist bloc as "state capitalist", thus freeing his preferred way of life from the burden of its profound demonstrable failure and further damning the demonic capitalist society of the US which, funnily enough, he just can't bring himself to leave But I digress. BD DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan
-Caveat Lector- Well I'm glad we cleared all that up. So is David Bowie one of Satan's puppets or not? BD. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [FP] FW: Surveillance through Schools: Home Snoops
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: ScanThisNews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ScanThisNews Recipients List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FP] FW: Surveillance through Schools: Home Snoops Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 4:39 PM == SCAN THIS NEWS 10/25/99 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Surveillance through Schools: Home Snoops Source: Washington Times http://www.WashTimes.com/opinion/ed1.html EDITORIAL Home snoops Most parents do not know it, but in the name of education, the federal government is out to grade the home life of the nation's school parents. In Pittsburgh, an uproar over governmental intrusion has begun in connection with a project called the Pittsburgh School-wide Intervention Model, or PSWIM for short. The project, which is partly funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, asks teachers to record the behavior of their pupils on everything "from fidgeting and humming to stealing, starting fires and forcing others into sex," reports Insight magazine. "Other elements of the process include giving students a page of photos of classmates and instructing them to put an 'X' next to the three they disliked most." Chaperoning school playground activities is one thing. Turning teachers into behavioral analysts is another. The researchers claim that identifying youngsters with problematic attitudes or behaviors will lower the dropout and unemployment rates and curb crime. But what this kind of oversight will really do is turn America's 110,000 public schools into mental health clinics and its 50 million public school students into guinea pigs. In the Pittsburgh program, youngsters were subjected to intense and personal interrogation at school, and some of those youngsters, including 5-year-olds, were coerced into discussing their sexuality. Some were questioned in rooms by teachers and researchers who were strangers to them, and they "were not allowed to leave the room until they had given the answers the researchers wanted," according to the Virginia-based American Center for Law and Justice, a public-interest law firm. One question asks youngsters: "Have you ever forced sex on anyone?" Pittsburgh parents, as you might imagine, are outraged at these secret probing sessions. At first, they were mystified by a change in their children's mood, then after learning of the PSWIM project, they were angry that such inappropriate lines of questioning were being conducted without their permission. Sandra Delaney, whose third-grade son participated in PSWIM, told Insight that "neither (the researchers nor the school) thought they needed parents' permission --or else they didn't care. . . . [I] still don't know who has information about my son or how it was interpreted." Truly disturbing as well is the fact that school systems around the country are considering similar projects as the Clinton administration pushes such invasive programs, programs funded by not just the Institute of Mental Health but also the U.S. Department of Education and the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A project conducted by the University of Oregon, for example, is called Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports (PBIS), which focuses on students in kindergarten through third grade. Insight quotes Renee Bradley, a special education researcher with the U.S. Department of Education, as saying the Oregon project "is our biggest investment right now." Note the words "right now," because Education Secretary Richard Riley and Attorney General Janet Reno, no less, are urging Congress to appropriate $50 million in the FY 2001 budget to finance more experimental projects. Ms. Delaney, who now home-schools her son, and more than 70 other parents are not standing for it. They have filed a federal lawsuit against the Pittsburgh school district and the researchers, including the University of Pittsburgh's Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic. That case is expected to go to trial in the spring. Meanwhile, California parents are in for an equally unpleasant surprise. California Gov. Gray Davis, who vowed to take a "common sense" approach on education reform, is considering signing legislation that would, in the words of the San Francisco-based Pacific Research Institute, "turn California school teachers into Big Brother's home snoops." The bill, which was authored by state Assemblywoman Nell Soto, Pomona Democrat, would allow schools to create home visitation programs and to compete for tens of thousands of dollars to fund them. The teachers purportedly would assess the home environment and lifestyles of the family to strengthen the bond between parent and child. Any reasonable parent, teacher or lawmaker must see the
[CTRL] social change needed
-Caveat Lector- Hello social changers- Please read and offer comments? Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: JP Viken Sent: Fri 11/5/99 2:18 AM Re: Intercepted mail, tracking your connections, etc. Here's how I really feel. I'm very angry and discouraged that the power elites (multinational corps/banks/govt and quasi-govt bureacracies) have apparently destroyed much of the rule of law in America. I think those elites are doing everything they can to create global power networks for their interlocked, international corporations, each of which can flex more muscle than most governments. I am angry that these elites appear to have given their allegiance to each other and their family and association networks and not our great nation. These elites have the agencies of govt and govt officials in their pockets (that is, we have the best govt their money can buy, unfortunately). These folks have no conscience, and are apparently filled with endless darkness. They care mostly about money and power and apparently care nothing of justice, righteousness or charity. They are playing a dangerous game for us as well as for themselves and can easily take us into major societal breakdown, regional war and even major nuclear war. I am angry that our congress allowed these elites to take over our congressional right to an honest money system. What we have now is a toxically inflated debt based fraudulant fiat currency, the biggest ponzi scheme in history. The interest they accrue on their books to lend us our own money is never put into circulation, so it can never be paid back (our imaginary national debt is the total of all this fraudulant interest). This money system creates an indentured servitude to material goods that takes moms out of the home and makes children mental, emotional orphans. And I am angry that our congressional leaders have allowed themselves to become so comprimised that they sold their souls for money, power and the dc lifestyle. I am angry that parents have allowed tv to raise their children and mind control sick values and beliefs into them. I am angry that we as a society have allowed liberalism and situational morality to be taught to our children through the schools and tv. I hate to believe in conspiracy theories, but it sure seems to me noam chomsky got a lot of it correctly when he called this phenomena manufactured consent. If we have a govt that has gotten so corrupt that it is functioning as a puppet for the internationally based corporate elites and their families, and these entities have had a long term historical commitment to drugs and anything else that yeild power and money no matter who it hurts, then we as a society are in deep, deep trouble. I fear that the global system these elites are attempting to create is a system of interlocked, international corporations that will transform most countries of the world (including ours) into countries like mexico or colombia, each and all serf based fascist oligarchies with almost no health care and countless lifestyles of disease and suffering (like one big cost to coast mexico city on each continent). I believe that 98% of our corrupt covert operators and bureacratic shills (the wayne adrian richs and mark richards of our govt) do not really understand what their actions are ultimately going to do to this nation, its families and children and to their own families. I believe that whatever happens the next 1 to 10 years, at least at somepoint it will come unglued and there will be a catastrophic rise in death rates here and abroad. I hope not, but history suggests this. I knew some facts about a certain naughty son that grew up in a wealthy family and had no correction. When he did naughty things either the cops looked the other way or his dad made some calls. He was never punished or corrected. He grew up to be super perverted, whacky and a blight to the community and perpetuated the same total lack of morality upon his own rich spoiled kids. His foolish behavior caused an accidental death which was quickly covered up. I suppose his sick family which had almost no intrinsic character or morality serves as a standard for what these types of families produce as traditions in the elites when there can be no correction to this kind of family power allowed to exist above the law. I know that our gov't alphabets are systemically crazy, perverted, and murderous just like these type elite families and have used the cloak of executive privilege and so called "national security" to rationalize their appetites for money, power, and industrial acquisitions, and the war games they love to play, and are above the law and any correction. These agencies function as servants to these elites. The behavior of these families and their "agencies" produce institutional death and suffering for millions. How sad they don't use their intelligence and skills to
Re: [CTRL] Intercepted mail, tracking your connections, etc.
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:14 PM Re: Intercepted mail, tracking your connections, etc. from: jpviken On 11-3 my e'mail system went down completely after opening up a cia list e'mail. It took me about 8 hours to fix it. I had to completely remove all traces of netscape and then re-enter microsoft explorer to even get it to work. Sounds like the nsa and their minions have had their fill of us! We must be getting too close to discovering something they are afraid of. There is a little story that I never told before, a story told me years go by a very deep cover contact of mine, now deceased. I didn't give much credibility to his tale, since I felt his stories were just way too unbelievable. Although he had too much money and way more power than he deserved, I could just never place much credibility in his stories, they were just too incredible. I enjoyed his company because of the outdoor national and international hobby we enjoyed. Now looking back years later, I'm not so sure anymore his stories were so far out. He told me on a number of occasions that later on at a certain point, our overlord sub-earo minions who run the american industrial/military/intelligence system would attempt to go global, but that their greatest fear at that time would be a possible "mass, spontaneous uprising of unassociated, unorganized, lone-nut assassins" who might attack any and all oligarchs and feds at will in kamikaze style revenge attacks and that this might occur when said folk find out that their situation is irreversably lost and they have been irrepairably duped. Apparently their all too frequent use of the lone-nut assassin model has left subconcious reverberations of the golden rule inversion, best translated as: instead of (do unto others as you would like them to do unto you), the inverse of "expect others to treat you in the worst ways you ever treated them, and expect them to do this to you when you are most vulnerable and least expect it" (commonly referred to as "what goes around comes around" or "paybacks a bitch". This is why the alphabets want all the guns. There is another big problem the usa-based, sub-euro oligarchs and a their alphabet minions do not yet know. And that is that in the larger scope of things they will have their celebration or awards party given them when the old euro merchant banking, black nobility families attain the new world order and make it a euro world order: this celebration party for the usa shills/cutouts will be a "night of the long-knives" like the brown shirts got in germany (come celebrate our victory on the train, we'll have a geat time!"---result: all whacked to the last brownshirt). If this story is true, this will be one heck of a reward! Deep cover rumor: old euro minions have fixed up our sidona, fema, cog type underground type bases with very special treatments by which these sub-euro usa shills/cutouts can "celebrate". It wil be a super-"whacked/out" celebration, "night of the longknives", wackemout style. Apparently, in the major scope of things, going global means going euro supremo and that all major usa industries will have to be either immobilized, destroyed or transferred to euro so that the usa money generator can be "eliminated" and euro can assume its long designed role. The Ero old nobility will not need us any more to industrialze, organize, and compartmenbtalize the world for them--it will be time to take us out and take it home! We better Hope this recent type of thing with Boeing is just temporary and airbus is just a flash in the pan. This supposed future "just deserts" or reciprocal treachery is not expected by these sub-euro shills/cutouts. They will shrill in pain, "but we brought in your drugs, we did your hits, we laundered your money, we served you well, how can you do this to us? and such will fall on deaf ears. Of course many brass have already been marginalized, quieted by comprimise and quite a number whacked out in mysterious helicopter based training accidents. Of course there are always those improbable and mysterious type suicides (eg three gunshots to the chest boorda style with no powder burns, etc., etc.) Upper level sub-euro usa minions will think they are "above all this" and will be "taken care of in the larger scope of things." They sure will be taken care of, but "night of the longknives" style! As this onion gets peeled, there will be numerous uprisings within and between many groups. Recurrent, repititive "burning of the reichstag" type events will be used to elicit impose martial law and employ fema, the aphabetss and the military against their own people and families, thus insuring complete soicial and moral destruction of american, and this will prove even better than what drug importing has accomplished. We'll see storm troopers against the people and seizures
Re: [CTRL] Alert Status raised by two levels !!
-Caveat Lector- Any supposed 'information' of this nature for which the 'revealer' does not give their name, needs to be read with a salt shaker at hand (so that the reader has a ready supply of a pinch of salt) and then deserves to be filed in the round file by one's desk June ;-) *===* If we listened to our intellect, we'd never have a love affair. We'd never have a friendship. We'd never go into business, because we'd be cynical. Well, that's nonsense. You've got to jump off cliffs all the time and build your wings on the way down. ---Ray Bradbury *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Concerning Satan
-Caveat Lector- With me, there is no argument about what you believe... but please don't insist that I believe as you do, or what I believe according to the Bible is a lie or is inaccurate. It is only fair to give you and anyone else their space to believe what they want to, I only ask the same in return. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, but drowning someone or silencing them, just because you disagree, or because it does not fit your mold or agenda of the way you think / believe things are, is hardly fair. I will remain with what I believe is "Satan"... according to his descripts, MO, titles, and behaviors according to the Biblical accounts cover to cover according to appropriate translations. I would rather quote God's word, or Christ's teachings rather than "Gurdjieff" any day, because I've never heard of this person, and have no need to put any credibility in what he says or said. On the other hand, I've heard and experienced the words of the Bible, not in my home but rather through intense studies, most of my life... THAT is credible to me, and is what I choose as my personal standard. Growing up, I rarely heard words of the Bible, for my "ex" parents are totally and 100% to this day, NWO oriented by their associations and heavy involvements with certain secret and fraternal organizations that I understand all too well, and actually more than I wanted to ever know. Again, I will respect your right to believe whatever you choose to believe, but I do not have to agree, and reserve the right, just as you do, to disagree. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Concerning Satan -Caveat Lector- On 4 Nov 99, at 0:29, Eagle 1 wrote: -Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:: God is good, God is great, God is not mocked. Allah be praised. Satan is a lie. Snip*** "For as much then as the children are partakers of the flesh and blood, He also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is the devil [Satan]". Hebrews 2:14 Again, you are welcome to believe what you will, but when there is substantial evidence to prove this personnage's emminence and presence, I really do not understand how you can say *he is a lie*, when truly, truly as Christ has said, Satan is the liar, and the father of all lies... John 8:44. Makes no sense to say he is a lie, when he is the liar of liars. Since, in our present system here on Earth, you cannot have light without darkness and most things exist on a spectrum that can be called a polar duality, I suppose you might have to come up with a name for that which does not support the Light end of the spectrum. However the Dark End is not always evil. If you must call the Dark End "Satan," well, that's your problem. It would seem that our task as evolving human beings is to resolve dualities and to rise above them. As Gurdjieff once said, there is the Holy Affirming, the Holy Denying, and the Holy Reconciling. Whenever you think there are only two answers, yes or no, you have to look again. You've forgotten something. Curiously, the ancients who mapped our skies and plotted out the planets and constellatioins considered that the new day began when the sun went down. (Which explains why Jewish holidays and Sabbaths always begin at sundown.) After all, when the sun is risen, the larger universe is completely hidden from the human eye. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More on PLEASE HELP
-Caveat Lector- Terry, Instead of using your ISP account, get a free Web-based email account like Yahoo or Hotmail. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HELP:) Re: INTERFERENCE
-Caveat Lector- No need to post (and take up mailbox space); I sent Mike the whole thing off-list. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Toward a Multi-Poley World Order.
-Caveat Lector- Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: -Caveat Lector- But then there would be no Multi-Poley World Order! FWP But Franklin, we all know that you really live in a mono-Poley world order. Joshua2 -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition ofGod. -Caveat Lector- Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: -Caveat Lector- If "Party of Citizens" can get the court to admit that the Bible is the supreme law book in BC, then we win the case, don't you agree? As far as I can tell, when pro-lifers and pro-abortionists or so-called "pro-choicers" argue it out by invoking Biblical Law, the pro-lifers win easily. Agree/disagree? What is the best argument anyone can make from the Bible that God favors abortion? FWP. You are Poley. Joshua2 = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: Russell on private health care]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Russell on private health care Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:46:25 -0500 From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Marta's too modest to forward her own work, so I'll do it for her. Look for her piece in the forthcoming LBO #92, too.] Here is today's ZNet Commentary Delivery from Marta Russell. If you pass this comment along to others, please include an explanation that Commentaries are a premium sent to Sustainer Donors of Z/ZNet and that to learn more about the project folks can consult ZNet (http://www.zmag.org) and specifically the Sustainer Pages (http://www.zmag.org/Commentaries/donorform.htm. Please do not send commentaries repeatedly to others -- encourage others to subscribe. Here then is today's ZNet Commentary... --- The Private Health Care Juggernaut Needs Jilting by Marta Russell Presidential hopeful Bill Bradley has placed health care reform on the national agenda as well it should be. However, the Bradley plan does not go far enough to resolve real need and it protects the insurance industry - the very culprit which is undermining access to quality health care in the nation. Bradley's "universal" health care reform plan would abolish Medicaid and use Medicaid plus budget surplus funds to provide subsidies to 95% of the 43 million uninsured Americans so they could join (with little or no premiums) the Federal Government's employee health insurance system or utilize tax credits to buy private insurance. Bradley rationalizes his blueprint will "let the market do what it does best and government do what it does best." It is a mystery to this writer what the market has done best. Health care in the U.S. is a trillion dollar industry. It is obliviously driven by profit motives, not social responsibility. Could this be more pronounced than in the market-heightened HMO/giant health care conglomerate era of today? Columbia/HCA executives, for instance, were recently convicted of intentionally defrauding Medicare of millions of dollars after a run of soaring profits on Wall Street. Humana Inc. and Aetna/US Healthcare face class action lawsuits alleging, amongst other things, that they pay doctors for withholding costly treatments and offer them other financial incentives to diminish the cost of the care the companies deliver. Here I want to focus on how the private system does least by those who utilize health care the most. The medical insurance game is played like this: the industry first studies data and calculates rates that will assure profits. It then "cherry picks" by denying insurance to bad risks. A 1996 study, for example, revealed that 47% of those insurance applicants who had been screened for "defects" were denied health insurance. Another way insurers turn risky subscribers away is by limiting their obligations through underwriting practices. They may insert pre-existing condition clauses which disallow treatment for periods of time. They may limit coverage so that specific treatments, drugs, or medical equipment are not included. They may cap benefits or they may charge exorbitant premiums for those with a history of a disabling condition. (One paraplegic's premium, for example, was $750 per month. Others have reported premiums as high as $1,100. Such rates are not affordable for most working people and they discourage employers, who do not want to see insurers jack up their premiums, from hiring or retaining disabled workers.) Unlike nondisabled people, those diagnosed with conditions such as diabetes or asthma, cannot go without treatment for six months or one year. Restrictions placed on benefits coupled with high premiums mean that those who experience disablement from birth or acquire one later in life may be forced to apply for health care from a public program like Medicare and/or be reduced to penury to qualify for Medicaid. Essentially, market forces have shifted people needing ongoing health services onto the public health care system by out pricing, undercovering, or denying essential care for periods of time. Indeed the government stepped in to provide Medicare and Medicaid to serve those segments of the population the private system squeezes out: seniors and those under sixty five who are disabled from birth or acquire a disability later in life. These systemic underwriting practices which leave many "uninsurables" out of the private insurance loop are meant to shift the burden of cost onto government. They assure that "non-profitable" people will not narrow the profit margins of health corporations. In a display of such intent, the business lobby fought for and won passage of a law, (USC 42 1395 y (b), which allows private insurers (and employers) to rid themselves of their disabled retirees by dumping them onto Medicare. In the Managed Care Era, "cherry picking" has taken a more insidious form. Ever wonder why HMO advertising
[CTRL] No genocide in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- Date sent: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 13:41:49 + From: Marjaleena Repo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:NO GENOCIDE IN KOSOVO: Richard Gwyn To: ALL LISTS [EMAIL PROTECTED] [note: Throughtout the War, the Toronto Star(supposedly left wing!) demonized the Serbs in any which way they could think of, while repeatedly lauding NATO as the pillars of humanity. I had sent numerous letters to the Star complaining of the fallacious portrayal of the Serbs, while mentioning the econonic catastrophy unleashed on behalf of the yours truly. Yet they continued on a slanted, unobjective, and partisan path. This was by no means impartial reporting!!!... When finally, I received a e-mail from the ombudsman explaining that he "can't understand why NATO would drop D.U weapons on Yugoslavia, if this would put Peace keepers in harms way". He went on say that"I must first prove that NATO had actually used this weaponry"--and that I did... I finally received a call explaining that they were "comtemplating" whether or not to print my letter. Unfortunately, or shall I say not surprinsingly, they did not do so, considering this would only discredit all previous "reports" on this issue... Now finally, the BIG LIE is exposed.] W IT CAN BE TOLD - that the "genocide" and "holocaust" charges against the Yugoslavian government and the Serbs were deliberate falsifications. This is the first (published) Canadian journalist, I believe, who has actually put together the findings from various independent sources which have travelled on the Internet for a couple of months. Let us see if it affects any of the coverage in the Toronto Star which was relentless in its viciousness toward the Serbs and didn't hesitate to repeat every outlandish story that it came across, in order to foster hatred against the Serbs! Let us see if other columnists will follow with a "mea culpa." Gwyn, of course, does not do a real self-criticism of himself, his newspaper and the overall Canadian and international media, and throws in the usual gratuitous comments about Milosevic and the"stupidity of Serbs", but nevertheless this is a significant first step. The column comes from a debate that took place on an TV Ontario programme, "Diplomatic immunity" on Oct. 29, between three journalists: Patrick Martin of the Globe and Mail, Richard Gwyn and Eric Margolies (perhaps the most vicious of the falsifiers), and Major-General (Ret'd) Lewis MacKenzie, with Gwyn, Martin and MacKenzie raising the issues of falsification (Patrick Martin even brought out the role of the PR firms in this war, reminding the viewers of the Hill and Knowlton created "incubator babies" incident in the Gulf War in 1990!). (If anyone has the transcript of this watershed programme in the Canadian media, please send it to me so I can spread it around the world.) This article needs to be circulated widely. If you can get your copy of the Toronto Star of November 3, you will have a ready made leaflet to give out to friends, relatives, fellow workers and neighbours, who have been at the receiving end of the false propaganda tales. They will find this an eye-opener. On the web you can locate the article at Toronto Star's site: http://www.thestar.com among the "Opinion" pieces This is an EXCELLENT time to respond to the Gwyn article, by forwarding it to your MP with your personal comment and request for a public inquiry into Canada's involvement in an illegal and immoral war. Also, do write letters to the Toronto Star. It is bound to publish some of them. (Do send us a copy so that we can send out a whole stream of them, whether they are published or not.) The e-mail address is at the end of the article. Marjaleena Repo --- Toronto Star November 3, 1999 NO GENOCIDE, NO JUSTIFICATION FOR WAR ON KOSOVO Richard Gwyn IN THE GENOCIDE of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo by the forces of Serb leader Slobodan Milosevic, the worst incident occurred at the Trepca mine. As reported by American and NATO officials, large numbers of bodies were brought in by trucks under the cover of darkness. The bodies were then thrown down the shafts, or were disposed of entirely in the mine's vats of hydrochloric acid. Estimates of the number of dead began at 1,000. That was six months ago, in the middle of the war undertaken to halt what both U.S. President Bill Clinton and British Prime Minister Tony Blair called ``a human catastrophe.'' Estimates of the number of ethnic Albanians slaughtered went upward from 10,000. U.S. Defence Secretary William Cohen put the count at 100,000. Three weeks ago, the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia released the findings of Western forensic teams investigating the horror at Trepca. There were not 1,000 bodies down the mine shafts at Trepca, reported the tribunal. There were not 100 bodies there. There was not one body there, nor was there any evidence the vats had ever been
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-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Interference Dan E. Moldea©1989 William Morrow and Company, Inc. New York, NY ISBN 0-688-08303-X ---[6]-- 7 Boss Colt THE CLEVELAND BROWNS, BALTIMORE Colts, and San Francisco 49ers were the only three teams from the defunct AAFC that were merged into the NFL in 1950.[1] The deal was cinched by Mickey McBride and his two close NFL friends Tim Mara and Art Rooney, who had been convinced by Bert Bell to warmly welcome the AAFC teams into the NFLso as to avoid potential antitrust problems with the federal government. However, the Colts folded at the end of the 1950 season after team owner Abraham Watner had lost $760,000. Part of the void left by the Colts was filled by the new Dallas Texans. But the owners of the Dallas team found themselves in even worse financial shape than Watner had been and gave up their franchise during the 1952 midseason. The Texans then went into a receivership controlled by Bert Bell and the NFL. The final five games of the Dallas Texans season were played in Hershey, Pennsylvania. The city of Baltimore desperately wanted the return of its NFL franchise. And commissioner Bell was happy to accommodate the Baltimore sports fans. But his major concern was finding an owner who had enough money to carry the team beyond a single season. Carroll Rosenbloom had all the looks of a winner. Born on March 5, 1907, in Baltimore, he was handsome, charming, witty, and frequently generous. But friends and associates have also said that his generosity sometimes carried a price, and that he could be thin-skinned, condescending, and mean-spirited. Because his ego was as big as his financial portfolio, he seemed to enjoy keeping people guessing. Totally unpredictable, he was the kind of guy who could slap a newspaper boy around for throwing the morning edition in the bushes-and then the next day offer to put the same boy through college. One NFL team owner said, "Carroll always gave you the feeling that if you crossed him, he was capable of slitting your throat, then donating your blood to the Red Cross blood drive."[2] Of course, those who crossed him were rarely forgiven. If he was in the midst of a war with someone and discovered that he had been wrong, he would rarely apologize. Instead, he would simply send flowers with a funny note attached and pretend that nothing had happened. His tone was slow and deliberate, as he switched between his Ivy League speech and racier, "mothahfuckah" street talk. He was intensely competitive and also a heavy gambler. A ruthless businessman, he was the son of Solomon Rosenbloom, a manufacturer of denim work clothes. Carroll Rosenbloom's older brother Ben Rosenbloom told me, "When our father came over from Russia, he couldn't speak English. In about 1888, he became a partner in the Standard Overall Company in Baltimore. But, as his sons got older, he decided to start a business that they could participate in. He sold out to his partners in Standard and then founded S. Rosenbloom, Inc. We manufactured all kinds of denims and sportswear. And everything just evolved from there. "When another overall company, [which eventually became] Blue Ridge Manufacturers of Roanoke, Virginia, went up for sale, we bought it [in or about 1900]. Soon, we had plants all over the country. We sold our products to all the big chains, like Sears and Montgomery Ward." The athletic, five-feet-eleven Carroll Rosenbloom grew up on Hollins Streetnear the home of writer H. L. Menckenbefore the family moved into a large home on Auchentroly Terrace, across from Druid Hill Park in northeastern Baltimore. A psychology major at Baltimore City College, he transferred to the University of Pennsylvania. There were nine children in the family, six boys and three girls.[3] All the boys were raised to work in the family business; the girls were brought up to be good wives. Carroll went to work for his father when he graduated from college. But Carroll wanted more responsibility and soon helped expand the family business, creating new companies and opening new plants. During the mid-1930s, he became the head of Blue Ridge and its subsidiaries-which, at the time, had eighty employees and included the Imperial Shirt Company. "Carroll's father was a genius," said another member of the Rosenbloom family. "Although his oldest son, Isadore, was the obvious heir, and he ran another Rosenbloom company, Marlboro Shirts, while Solomon was alive, really none of the sons were very ambitious, with the exception of Carroll. He was special. He was dynamic but totally self-centered and gruff. He wasn't a very classy man, and despite his education, he didn't appear to be well educated." When Solomon died in 1942, Carroll Rosenbloom assumed control of all the family's business interests, as directed by the elder Rosenbloom's will. "Upon my father's death, Carroll consolidated all our family's holdings under Blue Ridge," says Ben Rosenbloom. "Carroll did a hell of a job for
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-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Interference Dan E. Moldea©1989 William Morrow and Company, Inc. New York, NY ISBN 0-688-08303-X ---[8]-- 9 Winning Some and Losing Some ON DECEMBER 28,1958, nationally televised professional football came of age when Carroll Rosenbloom's Baltimore Colts defeated the New York Giants, 23-17, for the NFL championship. After missing an earlier attempt, Colts placekicker Steve Myhra booted a twenty-yard field goal with seven seconds left to play in regulation, tying the game at 17-17. The game then went into the first sudden-death play-off in postseason play. The Giants won the toss and chose to receive. However, they failed to make a first down and were forced to punt. The Colts received the Giants' punt and marched eighty yards downfield in thirteen plays. The Colts' Johnny Unitasa quarterback drafted and released by the Pittsburgh Steelers whom Rosenbloom signed for a mere $7,000 in 1956completed four passes during the drive. Halfback Alan Ameche also tore off a twenty-three-yard run on a trap play. A few plays later, with second down and goal-to-go on the Giants eight yard lineeasy field goal rangethe Colts gambled and elected to pass, with Unitas throwing to Jim Mutscheller who was downed on the one yard line. On third down, the Colts' bench again refused to send in kicker Myhra to end the game. Instead, Unitas gave the ball to Ameche, who plunged in for the touchdown and the championship with eight minutes and fifteen seconds elapsed in the sudden-death period. A fourth down decision never had to be made. But, for years, rumors have circulated that the betting line influenced the final play. Johnny Unitas told me that no one had ever told him about any bets on the game. "I called all the plays," he says. "If there were any audibles to be done, I did those at the line of scrimmage. I was responsible for calling for the pass and for calling Ameche's number for the winning touchdown. "Any time there is a field goal situation, the field goal team would be sent in from the bench. But they never sent the field goal team in, so my job was to go for the touchdown." Recalling the final moments of the game, the Colts' head coach, Weeb Ewbank, told me, "We had missed one field goal, and we had luckily gotten one to tie the game to put it in overtime. We did not have a great placekicker. I made the decision not to send the field goal team out there. "In the closing minutes of the game, there was a time-out. John came over and asked, 'What are you thinking?' And I said, 'Alan is a fine ball carrier, and he doesn't fumble the ball.' But the one thing we needed was to have the ball in front of the goalposts because we wanted an opportunity to kick if we had to. "When John faded back to pass, I was afraid that somebody would hook his arm. I have seen too many times where somebody hooks an arm, misses an assignment, or just falls down. Too many things could happen. When anyone asks me why we passed, I tell them, 'Ask John. He was the one who called it."[1] According to author Kay Iselin Gilman, "There was gossip among so-called Football Insiders that owner Carroll Rosenbloom had placed a mammoth bet on the game and that Weeb called for a touchdown to ensure that the Colts would beat the point spread. Weeb termed these innuendos 'So much nonsense, I had no idea what the point spread was and I couldn't have cared less.' "[2] During my interview with Ewbank, he said, "I was with the Colts for nine years, and I never talked to Carroll Rosenbloom or any of his friends during a ball game. I wasn't even conscious of what the line on the game was. Carroll never told me anything like that. He never gambled around me." However, later in the interview, Ewbank complained that he did have trouble with Rosenbloom because of his attempts to interfere with his on-field coaching decisions. But Rosenbloom didn't deal with Ewbank directly in these instances. "He would say it to the general manager, Don Keller. And then Keller would come to me. And I'd say to Keller, 'Do you feel that way?' And Keller would say, 'No, but I have to sit up there with Carroll.' "Of course, I would do what Carroll wanted. And then I'd get in trouble with the players because they thought I had made the decision." However, Ewbank insists that Rosenbloom did not use Keller as his messenger during the final minutes of the 1958 championship game. Nevertheless, according to numerous figures in sports gambling, the decision by the Colts' management to go for the touchdown instead of the field goal was "no decision." One major bookmaker told me, "You have to understand that a week before the game, the Colts were favored by three and a half points. So much money was coming in on them that the point spread in some places really went up to four and a half, five, and even five and a half points. The talk was that Rosenbloom and some bigtime gambling buddy of his had taken the Colts and given the points and bet a
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-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Interference Dan E. Moldea©1989 William Morrow and Company, Inc. New York, NY ISBN 0-688-08303-X ---[9]-- 10 A New Commissioner ON AUGUST 14, 1959, twenty-seven-year-old Texas oilman Lamar Hunt announced that what soon became known as the American Football League (AFL) had been created to rival the NFL. Hunt was the owner of the new Dallas Texans and one of three sons of H. L. Hunt, Jr., an oil-rich tycoon who was also a big-money sports gambler and a close friend of Mafia bookmaker Frank Erickson. Lamar Hunt had earlier tried and failed to buy both the Chicago Cardinals and a new Dallas franchise for the NFL but was rejected. Consequently, he decided to form his own league. Harry Wismerwho had been part owner of the Washington Redskins and became the majority owner of the New York Titans, another AFL team-wrote that he had first met Lamar Hunt when the AFL was being formed.[1] However, Wismer had previously known Hunt's father. "I first met the [elder] Hunt at a party given by Ray Ryan, an old friend of mine. Ryan [was] one of the biggest gamblers in the country and called the senior Hunt his 'pigeon.' There was nothing phony about Hunt. He made his fortune by borrowing fifty dollars and betting he could find oil on land where the geologists said there wasn't any. H. L. Hunt's philosophy of life was that a man would succeed if he kept plugging and was willing to gamble. Ryan told me [Wismer] he thought that H.L. bet close to a million dollars a week during the football season. That's a staggering sum to most but a drop in the bucket to him. "[2] Author Don Kowet reported, "Hunt's only use for money, outside of making more money, was to wager it. He employed a graduate of MIT as a full-time statistician, to compute the odds on his various bets. He placed those bets through a special communications system, installed in his office, which connected him with the major horse tracks and bookmakers around the country. "[3] Bookmaker Marty Kane told me, "H. L. Hunt stiffed about four or five bookmakers for a lot of money, including Gil Beckley. Hunt just told them he wasn't going to pay. He was really a greasy son of a bitch." The Hunt family contained serious gamblers. However, there is no evidence that the low-key Lamar Hunt was ever a sports gambler. Yet, it is difficult to believe that he did not, wittingly or unwittingly, pass along inside information about his team to members of his family. There is little in his father's background to suggest that he was above gaining such an edge. Another AFL team owner was Barron Hilton. He purchased the Los Angeles Chargers and moved the team to San Diego in 1961. A longtime gambler, Hilton was a top executive of the Hilton Hotel chain. He was the son of Conrad Hilton, who had built the first Hilton Hotel in 1919.[4] Barron's older brother, Nicky, had been the first husband of actress Elizabeth Taylor.[5] Barron Hilton, a college dropout, resisted the hotel business at first, turning down an offer at age nineteen to work for his father. Instead, he bought interests in other companies. By 1960, he had sold off his own business and returned to the family fold. He was immediately appointed by his father as a vice president for the hotel chain. While taking an active role in Hilton affairs, he helped to create the Carte Blanche credit card company and bought the Chargers of the AFL.[6] Hilton told The Wall Street journal that he was called into his father's office when his businesses appeared to be in trouble. "I've been reviewing the operations of the football club and I've noticed that you have a very substantial loss of about $900,000," Conrad Hilton told his son. "And the credit card business looks to me like it's going to lose about $1.5 million. What kind of record are you trying to establish?[7] Barron Hilton later sold his interest in Carte Blanche, but he kept the Chargers. Hilton had maintained a long-term personal and business relationship with Los Angeles attorney Sidney Korshak, according to an official statement made by Korshak to the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement. Korshak has also been described by law-enforcement agencies as "the link between the legitimate business world and organized crime." He had been active in Hollywood since the early 1940s but had moved to Los Angeles in January 1948, beginning a new and more sophisticated era of the crime syndicate's penetration of the film industry.[8] Korshak had done legal work for Hilton. He had been recommended to Hilton by Patrick Hoy, a mutual friend and a top executive with General Dynamics, the military hardware firm. The other members of the AFLall of whom put up $25,000 for their charter franchises, as well as "performance bonds" of $100,000were * Philips Petroleum heir and the AFL's cofounder Kenneth Stanley "Bud" Adams of the Houston Oilers, a close friend of the Hunt family, who owned Texas Adams Oil which distributed Philips Petroleum's
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-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Interference Dan E. Moldea©1989 William Morrow and Company, Inc. New York, NY ISBN 0-688-08303-X ---[10]-- 11 Murchison, Modell, and Ford Buy In THE FOUNDER OF THE Dallas Cowboys, Clint Murchison, Jr., who wore a crew cut and spectacles, paid $550,000 for the team and selected former Rams general manager Tex Schramm as the architect and general manager of the new franchise. The Cowboys' owner was the son of another wealthy and outspoken Texas oilman. Murchison's father had been expelled from Trinity College for gambling. Soon after, he became a wildcatter who struck it rich during the Texas oil boom of the 1920s. Murchison Sr. is famous for his observation: "Money is like manure. If you spread it around, it does a lot of good. But if you pile it up in one place, it stinks like hell." He once bet a million dollars on a single flip of a coin-and lost. The Murchisons were enthusiastic supporters of Senator Joseph McCarthy's witch-hunt and major backers of Vice President Richard Nixon in his 1960 presidential campaign against John Kennedy. After Nixon lost the election, he bought a lot from the Murchisons in Beverly Hills for the bargain price of $35,000. The Nixon property was a part of the exclusive Trousdale Estates, which had been developed by the Murchisonswith the help of a $6.7 million loan from the Teamsters' Central States, Southeast and Southwest Areas Pension Fund on February 26, 1959.[1] A successful businessman like his father, Clint Murchison, Jr., was also a heavy gambler. The Murchisons operated the Del Mar racetrack in Southern California. In 1954, profits from the track were diverted to Boys, Inc., a nonprofit corporation to help homeless boys which had been created by the Murchisons and their business associate Sid W. Richardson, another high-stakes gambler. In 1959, the Murchisons and Richardson were investigated by the California state legislature for allegedly using Boys, Inc. as a vehicle for the racetrack owners to evade taxes. When the investigation was concluded, both the state and the IRS began to levy taxes against Boys, Inc. Later, a federal court overturned the rulings and Boys, Inc. was again exempted from federal taxes. An annual guest of the Murchisons' nearby Hotel Del Charro in La Jolla, California, was J. Edgar Hoover. A horse-racing fan and another big gambler, Hoover had made a ritual of checking into the Del Charro during the racing season at Del Mar. When the Murchisons and Richardson found themselves in trouble over Boys, Inc., Hoover stepped forward in the midst of the controversy and said, "I know Clint Murchison quite well and I think he would be the last person in the country to use such a plan as a clever tax or business subterfuge. In fact, I spoke to Murchison about ten years ago about devoting some time and help to youth work and the charitable corporation of Del Mar is one of his answers. This work helps directly in making the nation sturdy, for communist penetration is currently directed mainly at labor organizations and youth organizations." Hoover also described Murchison as "the type of rugged individualist that made this country great."[2] Young Murchison had been a short but tough, 120-pound halfback at a New Jersey prep school. He did his undergraduate work in electrical engineering at Duke, where he was a Phi Beta Kappa scholar, and received his master's degree in mathematics from MIT. By the time he bought the Cowboys, the personal wealth of his family was estimated as being more than $2 billionwhich, in Texas, was second only to their longtime rivals, the Hunt family. The owner of a labyrinth of businesses, the highly secretive Murchison was investigated by no fewer than nine federal agencies and two congressional committees during a ten-year period beginning in 1955. The Senate Commerce Committee wrote that Gerardo Catena of New Jersey, a top-ranking member of the Vito Genovese crime family, "allegedly owned almost 20% of all the production of Murchison Oil Lease [Company], Oklahoma" during the early 1950s. Murchison was also involved in business partnerships with numerous associates of Carlos Marcello of New Orleans, the most feared Mafia boss in the South. And Murchison personally had real estate and banking ties with Marcello. Although Murchison had always denied knowing Marcello, he did admit that he occasionally had dinner at the Plantation, Marcello's New Orleans restaurant.[3] Joseph Campisi was a close friend of Murchison. Campisi, the owner of the Egyptian Lounge in Dallas, was associated with numerous underworld figures, particularly Joseph Civello, the head of the Marcello-controlled Dallas Mafia. Campisi has never been convicted of any crime but was arrested in 1944 for murder. The case was dismissed when the county grand jury determined that he had acted in self-defense. However, he has been linked by law-enforcement agencies to Marcello and "with both gambling and bookmaking activities
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-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Interference Dan E. Moldea©1989 William Morrow and Company, Inc. New York, NY ISBN 0-688-08303-X ---[11]-- 12 The Gambling Scandal Erupts CARROLL ROSENBLOOM WAS FLYING high. By 1962, he, Morris Mac Schwebel, and Lou Chesler were still the three largest stockholders in Seven Arts, which had already purchased the film libraries of Warner Brothers and Twentieth Century-Fox. Also that year, Seven Arts purchased the film library of MCA/ Universal Pictures for $21.5 million with a down payment of $7.5 million.[1] Since the back-to-back NFL championship seasons in 1958 and 1959, Rosenbloom and his Baltimore Colts had barely played .500 ball but were doing so in front of large, enthusiastic crowds. Rosenbloom was making a fortune on his team. Three of the members of that Colts team-Alan Ameche, Joe Campanella, and Gino Marchetti-had come to Rosenbloom to borrow $100,000 to help them finance a local small restaurant. Without flinching, Rosenbloom loaned them the money. It was another good bet. The little restaurant became the first of the Gino's national fast-food franchises. Seeing how successful the experiment was, Rosenbloom continued to loan his players money when they wanted to start their own businesses. Of course, Rosenbloom became a major stockholder in their companies. "Our objective is to help all our players invest their money well," Rosenbloom told reporter Bob Oates. "I don't believe the bromide: 'The only good ball player is a hungry ballplayer.' I don't want any hungry athletes around me. The way to win games and titles is with 40 players who are free to give their undivided attention to football because they don't have a worry in the world." He also saw to it that his players were perennially among the highest-paid in the NFL. Rosenbloom was a close friend of Ambassador Joseph Kennedy and his son Senator John Kennedy of Massachusetts, a member of the Senate Rackets Committee who had become the President of the United States in 1961. Young Kennedy was one of Rosenbloom's golf partners. According to author Doris Kearns Goodwin, on the day Kennedy was elected, Rosenbloom was out on the lawn of the Kennedy compound in Hyannis Port, playing touch football with Kennedy friends and family. At dinner on election night, Rosenbloom was one of only three friends present and had flown in a bushel of hard-shell crabs from the Chesapeake Bay for the occasion.[2] Kennedy family spokesman, Steve Smith, who was also present at the election night dinner, told me that he did not recall Rosenbloom's being there. He did, however, say that Rosenbloom and Joe Kennedy had been members of the same country club in Palm Beach, Florida. "There was never any business relationship between Rosenbloom and any member of the Kennedy family that I'm aware of. He was a friend, and the family liked him," Smith said. Rosenbloom had given Robert F. Kennedy a game ball signed by the members of the 1958 World Champion Colts. Kennedy kept the ball in his office when he became U.S. attorney general under his brother. "Rosenbloom was a great, great friend of Joe Kennedy," says Rosenbloom's longtime friend and business partner Tex McCrary. "And he was a great friend of Jack Kennedy. Carroll worshipped Jack Kennedy. And he used to love quoting old Joe. He used to love telling a joke Joe Kennedy used to tell him: 'Never trust an Irishman with a bottle of booze or a Jew with a pack of matches." Ironically, in April 1962, four insurance companies initiated lawsuits against Rosenbloom, charging that he had filed false reports about a fire at his Margate, New Jersey, house on September 5, 1950. The companies hired a Miami private investigator, Sam Benton, to look into the charges that Rosenbloom had hired an arsonist to burn down his house in order to collect the fire insurance. The companies charged that Rosenbloom had received $152,529 on the basis of the false reports. The companies accused Rosenbloom of making "false statements intending to deceive and defraud" them. The suit demanded repayment of the amount given to Rosenbloom, along with 6 percent interest and $500,000 in punitive damages. And that was only the beginning. Rosenbloom's old friend Mike McLaney still had been experiencing severe financial troubles a year after Castro took over Cuba and closed down the casinos, which cost McLaney and his two partners, Rosenbloom and Chesler, a fortune. Rosenbloom and Chesler could afford it, but McLaney could not. In the wake of the fall of Cuba, McLaney claimed that Rosenbloom had reneged on a deal to permit him to repurchase his stock in Universal Controls at the original sale price. Consequently, McLaney sued Rosenbloom in September 1960 for $4.25 million. U.S. District judge Joseph Lieb of Miami dismissed McLaney's suit and sealed all the evidence in the case, which included a series of damaging affidavits and depositions filed against Rosenbloom. In October 1962, private investigator Benton,
Re: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass
-Caveat Lector- The differences between capitalism (monopoly or otherwise) and communism are profound. Oh they are, huh? Then list these differences, please, so we can have cogent discourse that rises above the puerile level of "love it or leave it." This "state monopoloy capitalism" is the sort Orwellian wordplay which seeks to obfuscate the real differences between capitalist economies where consumer demand, private ownership and profit incentives guide the economy delivering the society of plenty that most of us live in, To confuse "capitalism" with free enterprise is itself an "Orwellian" word play. Without the armed might of the state to enforce their monopoly the capitalists are nothing but a pack of cards. This is a fascist economy, by definition. "Fascism," stated Mussolini so ever concisely, "is corporatism." Most of us do not live in a "society of plenty." Half of humanity is malnourished, That means three billion people went to bed hungry last night and couldn't do anything about it. Capitalism did that to them. Is that what you condone? Is this how you want the rest of us to live so that you personally can wallow in your own creature comforts? If so, sir, you are morally bankrupt. You're also not paying attention. Even here in America one out of five, perhaps even one out of four, children grow up in poverty. The typical American family needs two, or even three, jobs to break even and is only a couple of pay checks from being out in the street. Real wages have gone steadily downward for decades. In 1968, when I was twenty I lived on Manhattan. I paid $80 a month for a one bedroom apartment. I made $100 a week working twelve hour shifts in the back office of Walston Co, 54 Wall St., a brokerage that no longer exists. My wife stayed home with my infant son. We could afford to eat out a couple times a week. A good steak cost two bucks. Gasoline was $.29. Try that today. Society of plenty? Gimme a break. Business may be booming, but labor is taking it up the butt. This is a sick society. Paper sleeps in a palace and people sleep in the street. In a place like that it's immoral to stand around and do nothing about it. We have a moral duty to change things. To defend such a system is morally remiss. In Christian terms, it is a "sin." and communist economies where state planning, state ownership, and state direction, delivers shortages, sloth and apathy. As opposed to what? In a capitalist society poverty delivers the shortages, only the rich can indulge in "sloth" and apathy is a way of life. Of course, if you think you can convince someone who has lived in a Communist country that the material reality of their lifestyle was no different from life in the "state monopoly capitalist" US go ahead. Well let's see. They had free education, token rent and universal health care. We graduate functional illiterates, pay through the nose for the "privilege" of living indoors and forty million of us have no health care coverage at all while the rest of us are the victims of a corrupt health care system that has been bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical industry. Big deal. The only real substantive difference between the USA Inc. system and the USSR Inc. system is one has better pay and the other has better benefits. In both systems a handful of ruthless villians live in luxury and the rest of the people work to support them. Both systems corrupt the soul by commodifying time. Time is the very stuff of life itself. To put a price on time is to put a price on life. It makes commodities of us all. It makes human beings, you and I included, into things to be bought and sold an hour at a time. And another thing, the use of the term "state monopoly capitalist" reeks of the sort of backsliding wordplay one even gets from my favourite bugbear, Noam Chomsky, who in his socialist idealism, regularly redefines the former Communist bloc as "state capitalist", On this point, at least, Chomsky is 100% correct. Where his reasoning fails is when he discounts the fascist crypto-coup of 1963 as a factor in shaping American life today. But, hey, nobody's right about everything. thus freeing his preferred way of life This is a gross misrepresentation on your part. I dare you to produce a single sentence from Chomsky's work in which he says he "prefers" state monopoly capitalism. Be sure to include the ISBN and the page number. from the burden of its profound demonstrable failure Seventy five years of embargo, a crippling invasion that destroyed the best part of the country and killed between twenty and fifty million people, a burdensome defence budget forced upon them for forty years by the US, and the disaster at Chernobyl destroyed the Soviet economy. I sincerely hope that a stunning revelation, typically fifty years late, wont someday reveal that Chernobyl wasn't the work of a Stealth plane and a smart bomb. If it was, it was the single most successful sortie in the history warfare.
[CTRL] Fwd: Two Australian Vignettes - TiM GW Bulletin 99/11-1 (Nov 5, 1999)
FROM WESTERN AUSTRALIA
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Topic: AUSTRALIAN VIGNETTES
1. Which One of You Is the Admiral?
2. A Deadly Mistake
1. Which One of You Is the Admiral?
WESTERN AUSTRALIA, Nov. 5 - Our Sydney hosts were more than kind. In fact,
they made us feel almost embarrassed.
When my wife and I disembarked at the Sydney airport from the Perth-Sydney
flight on Oct. 29, having spent the four hours or so snoozing in the back
row of the economy class, right next to the Boeing 767's toilets, we were
met by a Sydney Serbian National Federation (SNF) delegation of some half a
dozen people. And by a uniformed chauffeur holding a large sign with the
name "Djurdjevic" professionally printed on it.
But our biggest surprise was awaiting us when we left the Sydney domestic
terminal building. A huge white stretch limo was parked curbside, complete
with a bar and enough leg room for a giraffe.
"Who's getting married at the airport?" I blurted out loud.
"That's for you," one of the hosts explained.
"For me? You're kidding."
They weren't. We drove on, my wife and I in the back seats, and Srecko
Popovic, an SNF board member, taking the leather lounge sofa at least seven
to eight feet long.
"Would you like a cognac?" he asked, pointing to the bar.
"No, thanks," my wife and I both replied almost in the same breath, looking
at each other with incredulity. After all, it was just after noon. And we
haven't had lunch, either.
"You really shouldn't have gone to all this trouble," I said.
"It's okay," Mr. Popovic replied. "The driver is a Sydney Serb who is in
the limo business. We got a special rate. He had seen you on TV."
A mobile phone rang. ("Everybody" in Australia these days has mobile
phones! Considering this continent's relatively small human population,
wonder how long it will be before Telstra comes out with kangaroo or emu
versions?).
"We're just going to park over there for a few minutes," we were informed,
as the SNF president, Ilija Glisic, had just arrived at the airport and
would like to greet us personally.
"You shouldn't have
" I started saying to Mr. Glisic, once we met, pointing
to the gleaming white limo.
"Oh, why not?" he quipped with a big broad smile.
It was a long ride to downtown Sydney - matching the size of the vehicle, I
thought - probably the longest ride we've ever taken to reach the city from
the airport. And it was all mostly due to a tremendous amount of
construction going on in this city trying to get ready for the Olympics 2000.
But there are some good things about long rides. Having a chance to talk
is one of them.
Our driver, Vladimir Kovak, was an open book, once he started talking. We
learned that his family's homestead was within a stone throw away from the
Pec Patriarchate in Kosovo (the ancient seat of the Serbian Orthodox
Church). But that his family had all "emigrated" from Kosovo to Paracin, a
town in central Serbia, a long time before the more recent troubles began.
Amid a myriad of short stories about the VIPs he had driven, which Mr.
Kovak (originally Kovacevic) shared with us during our long ride, the
"admiral story" stood out.
"I have a contract with the (Sydney) Intercontinental Hotel, and so one
day, I was supposed to drive two American couples," he said. "I was told
that one of the men was an admiral in the U.S. Navy."
Not lacking any gumption, the limo driver turned around and informed his
foursome VIP entourage that he was a Serb. "Which one of you is the
admiral?" he proceeded to interrogate them.
One of the VIP ladies, evidently fearful about the motives of a Serb in
Sydney replied: "And why do you want to know?"
"Because I want to tell him that he missed! NATO bombed the wooden
clapboard dummies of the Serb tanks and airplanes. And civilians."
We all laughed. As we suspect the American naval VIP entourage did.
"In the end, I got a $1,000-tip out of that trip," Mr. Kovak said.
"A $1,000-tip from a civil servant of the United States government?" I
repeated. "Guess some government work does pay well. Maybe we should all
get into the business of shooting the wooden Serb clapboard dummies?"
Afterward, I felt sorry this evidently entrepreneurial Serb didn't get to
drive some real NATO dummies. Such as Gen. Wesley Kanne Clark. Or Madam
Halfbright. Gosh
he might have retired on
[CTRL] HISTORY OF A NEWS SERVICE
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.nitronews.com/dowbenko.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.nitronews.com/dowbenko.html"Nitro News - Uri Dowbenko/A - (AP) ASSOCIATED PROPAGANDA HISTORY OF A "NEWS" SERVICE By Uri Dowbenko Media Columnist [EMAIL PROTECTED] The secret history of the Associated Press reveals a pro-establishment, anti-populist bias that stretches all the way back to its origin. As an aside to a true life crime story, historian J. Anthony Lukas describes the beginnings of the ubiquitous AP in his book Big Trouble. Lukas contends that in the early days of the twentieth century, "Americans were aghast that a great octopus like the AP could embrace eight hundred member papers, putting its product before as many as twenty-five million readers every day." Even then, AP's homogenized and biased stories, masquerading as "objective" journalism, were offensive to American readers. "'Here,' wrote one stupefied editor, 'is the most tremendous engine for power that ever existed in this world. If you can conceive all the power ever wielded by the great autocrats of history, even that would be less than the power now wielded by the Associated Press.'" Of course, this assessment was made long before the inevitable orchestration of radio, television and the press into what CIA operative Frank Wisner liked to call the "Might Wurlitzer" of Big Media Cartel propaganda. "The AP's puissance was measured as much by organizational rigor as by sheer size, for in an era of trusts, it was one of the nation's most effective monopolies," continues Lukas. "A newspaper with a precious AP franchise was protected against any competitor in its territory seeking one, while the AP itself had dread powers to discipline a paper that dealt with a rival news service." A parallel situation in history, of course, is the Rockefeller-controlled Standard Oil Trust, which through corporate-mob tactics, indistinguishable from organized crime, succeeded in monopolizing the entire oil industry in the United States. But how did AP get that way? "In 1898, facing charges of trafficking with the enemy, the Chicago 'InterOcean' challenged the AP's structure in court," writes Lukas. "When the Illinois Supreme Court upheld the suit, finding that the AP was 'so affected with a public duty' that it must provide its news to any applicant, the AP abruptly dissolved as an Illinois corporation and reorganized in New York, this time not as a business corporation but as a mutual association - like a literary society or fishing club - permitting it arbitrarily to expel any memb er who protested publicly against the way the organization was run. Henceforth all insurgency was doomed." In its new incarnation, disguised as a co-operative, Associated Press was able to smash any resistance to its heavy-handed tactics. In a prescient analysis of today's interlocking corporate-based monopoly media cartel, Lukas writes that "to its critics, the AP was fond of stressing this 'mutuality,' arguing that it was merely a 'clearing house' drawing news primarily from its members and distributing it to other members." "In fact, the AP stood for the notion that news was private property, fiercely retaliating against anyone who poached on its preserve," reveals Lukas. "It was dominated by an inner circle of large metropolitan newspapers that at the time of the service's reincarnation in 1900 had each purchased a thousand dollars in bonds worth forty votes, compared to the single vote held by ordinary members." Redolent of the operation of the Federal Reserve and its privately-owned magical money machine, the newsmongers of Associated Press have a similar monopoly in the distribution of what passes for "information" and a daily record of events which eventually become "history." "Buttressed by this margin, old-guard papers like the Chicago Tribune and the Washington Star were firmly in the saddle," continues Lukas. "Where it drew news from a member paper, which generally supported the community's most substantial interests, the AP reflected the outlook of that city's power structure." Currently, AP's offices in New York's Rockefeller Center reflect the globalist nature of the media establishment's concerns for tight rigid news control and the subsequent molding of public opinion. For Upton Sinclair, writes Lukas, "the AP's vast reach ensured that American public opinion was 'poisoned at the source.'" (By the way, where does your hometown paper get its so-called "news"?) "In large cities and some state capitals, the AP maintained bureaus staffed by its own men, and to cover major events, it dispatched its own reporters," writes Lukas. "But that did little to diversify the AP's menu. To Oswald Garrison Villard of New York's Evening Post, the AP had 'always bowed down before authority and rarely ever stood up to the government in any controversy.'" AP remains the same yesterday, today, and most
Re: [CTRL] COURAGE by Carla Binion
-Caveat Lector- Where have all the heroes gone? Nice post. Thanks. Gavin. Robert Parry writes: "Tyranny, like cowardice, often comes in small pieces, compromises that seemed reasonable at the time." COURAGE by Carla Binion After reading what follows, you may ask, as I have recently: Where are the people of courage today? Where are the bold statesmen in politics, the aggressive, honest journalists? Why don't larger numbers of influential politicians and journalists stand up and speak out about what has gone wrong with our nation? The sources for much of the following information are journalist Robert Parry's LOST HISTORY, 1999, and Parry's FOOLING AMERICA, 1992. Parry has worked as a Newsweek correspondent and as a reporter for PBS Frontline. What is the missing link between the aggressive, investigative Watergate press corps of the 1970s and the tabloidish Monica Lewinsky media of the 1990s? Bob Parry says the 1970s press corps made life too difficult for U.S. intelligence agencies as those agencies tried to conduct their clandestine wars around the world without public scrutiny. The CIA/military goals then became: (1) to limit news media coverage, and (2) to control public opinion by convincing influential Americans and much of the press corps that the obvious facts before them were not the real facts. National security secrets were exposed by senate investigating committees (the Church and Pike committees) by the mid-1970s. Those committees exposed CIA scandals such as Mafia-connected assassination plots, drug experiments on unsuspecting citizens, spying on Americans and so forth. During the 1970s, an era of relative openness, those scandals appeared routinely in the newspapers and on TV. George Bush became CIA director in 1976, and the CIA began to retaliate. President Reagan, in the 1980s, acted even more aggressively by imposing tougher security regulations to keep the public in the dark and punish those who disclosed CIA abuses. Reagan also implemented an Orwellian "perception management" program designed to control public opinion regarding the administration's policy arguments. That program was based at the National Security Council and was run by CIA director William Casey. To minimize resistance to Reagan's policies, Casey assigned "psy-war" experts to generate public support for the president. The experts analyzed "what excited or frightened the American people" and exploited it. When the propaganda operation was exposed during the Iran-contra investigation in 1987, participants downplayed its impact, although the public's lack of resistance to Iran-contra and the media's lack of coverage were proof the propaganda program had been effective. Journalists knew that working against Reagan/Casey would lower their earning potential and status. In 1986, ABC News's Karen Burnes ran into resistance when she pursued stories about contra corruption and drug smuggling. Bob Parry quotes Karen Burnes (Rolling Stone, September 10, 1987, p. 48) "It takes months and months to do this story. If I'm on the air for [a total of only] five minutes, it doesn't look good on the computer. If you're someone who perceives success as air time, this is not a way to be successful." Bob Parry faced the same pressure when he investigated Iran-contra. In 1986, the Miami Herald's Alfonso Chardy told Parry that the Reagan "public diplomacy" apparatus was trashing Parry's reputation solely because Parry was doing critical reporting on Iran-contra. Parry's reports had consistently turned out to be true. In the same year, Parry was told by a Reagan "public displomacy" official that an AP colleague who pursued Iran-contra was a "Sandinista agent," though there was no evidence for the smear. (Parry's FOOLING AMERICA, 1991, pp. 210, 211.) Reagan tried to control the public as well as the press. The few American citizens who protested Iran-contra misdeeds were harassed. Over four years starting in 1981, 52 FBI field officers investigated citizens who tried to organize and challenge Reagan's Central American policies. The National Security Council staff had FBI agents interrogate anti-contra Americans. Security consultant Philip Mabry said that in 1984 Oliver North urged Mabry and others to investigate contra opponents. Mabry told the Boston Globe: "Ollie told me that if the FBI received letters from five or six unrelated sources all requesting an investigation of the same groups, that would give the Bureau a mandate to go ahead and investigate." (The Boston Globe, February 29, 1988.) While Reagan's FBI harassed American citizens, the CIA's Casey-Raymond "perception management" team harassed out-of-step journalists. When Reagan got mad over CBS News coverage of Nicaragua, his diplomacy man, Otto Reich, made a trip to the CBS Washington office. Reagan's Secretary of State George Schultz sent a memo to Reagan saying Reich
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Intercepted mail, tracking your connections, etc.
from: jpviken On 11-3 my e'mail system went down completely after opening up a cia list e'mail. It took me about 8 hours to fix it. I had to completely remove all traces of netscape and then re-enter microsoft explorer to even get it to work. Sounds like the nsa and their minions havehad their fillof us! We must be getting too close to discovering something they are afraid of. There is a little story that I never told before, a story told me years go by a very deep cover contact of mine, now deceased.I didn't give much credibility to his tale, since Ifelt his stories were just way too unbelievable. Although he had too much money and way more power than he deserved, I could just never place much credibility in his stories, they were just too incredible.I enjoyed his company because of the outdoor national and international hobby we enjoyed. Now looking back years later, I'm not so sure anymore his stories were so far out. He told me on a number of occasionsthat later on at a certain point, our overlord sub-earo minions who run the american industrial/military/intelligence system wouldattempt to go global, but that theirgreatest fearat that time would bea possible "mass, spontaneous uprising of unassociated, unorganized, lone-nut assassins" who might attack any and all oligarchs and feds at will in kamikaze style revenge attacks and that this mightoccur when said folk find out that their situation is irreversably lost and they have been irrepairably duped. Apparently their all too frequent use of the lone-nut assassin model has left subconcious reverberations ofthegolden rule inversion, best translatedas: instead of (do unto others as you would like them to do unto you), the inverse of "expect others to treat you in the worst ways you ever treated them, and expect them to do this to youwhen you are most vulnerable and least expect it" (commonly referred to as "what goes around comes around" or "paybacks a bitch". This is why the alphabets want all the guns. There is another big problem the usa-based, sub-euro oligarchs and a their alphabet minions do notyetknow. And that is that in the larger scope of things they will have their celebration or awards party given them when the old euro merchant banking, black nobility families attain the new world order and make it a euro world order: this celebration party for the usa shills/cutouts will be a "night of the long-knives" like the brown shirts got in germany (come celebrate our victory on the train, we'll have a geat time!"---result: all whacked to the last brownshirt). If this story is true, this will be one heck of a reward! Deep cover rumor: old euro minions have fixed up our sidona, fema, cog type underground type bases withvery special treatments by which these sub-euro usa shills/cutouts can "celebrate". It wil be a super-"whacked/out" celebration, "night of the longknives", wackemout style. Apparently, in the major scope of things, going global means going euro supremo and that all major usa industries will have to be either immobilized, destroyed or transferred to euro so that the usa money generator can be "eliminated" and euro can assumeits longdesigned role.The Ero old nobility will not need us any more to industrialze, organize, and compartmenbtalize the world for them--it will be time to take us out and take it home! We better Hope this recent type of thing with Boeing is just temporary and airbus is just a flash in the pan. This supposed future "just deserts" or reciprocal treachery is not expected by these sub-euro shills/cutouts.They will shrill in pain, "but we brought in your drugs, we did your hits, we laundered your money, we served you well, how can you do this to us? and such will fallon deaf ears. Of course many brass have already been marginalized, quieted by comprimise and quite a number whacked out in mysterious helicopter based training accidents. Of course there are always those improbable and mysterious type suicides (eg three gunshots to the chest boorda style with no powder burns, etc., etc.) Upper level sub-euro usa minions will think they are "above all this" and will be "taken care of in the larger scope of things." They sure will be taken care of, but "night of the longknives" style! As this onion gets peeled, there will be numerous uprisings within and between many groups. Recurrent, repititive "burning of the reichstag" type events will be used to elicit impose martial law and employ fema, the aphabetss and the military against their own people and families, thus insuring complete soicial and moral destruction of american, and this will prove even better than what drug importinghas accomplished. We'll see storm tropoers against the people and seizures will be the bait. The urbans will rise against the suburbans, race against race, people vs. the cops, etc.,
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Brewton Fan Club
From: "Linda Minor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] In doing a web search of WRT Energy, I came up with the following hit: http://www.rickross.com/reference/Scien102.html Prosecutor: FBI investigating former official of WRT Energy The Advocate (Baton Rouge, LA), February 20, 1999 By Peter Shinkle The FBI is investigating a former official of the defunct WRT Energy Corp. who sent $2.6 million to an account in the Turks and Caicos Islands, a federal prosecutor said Friday. The man, James Florence, already faces a civil lawsuit accusing him of defrauding WRT. The federal judge in that case has ordered Florence not to move the money from the offshore account. U.S. Attorney Mike Skinner said Friday his office normally does not reveal its investigations, but did so in this case so the attorneys suing Florence could "secure the offshore account." The FBI probe is the latest twist in the sprawling litigation over WRT, an independent oil company operating in South Louisiana. WRT filed for bankruptcy protection from its creditors in 1996, shortly after writing down the value of its oil leases by $100 million. Even by the standards of Louisiana's sometimes rough-and-tumble oil industry, the case of WRT seems, well, unusual. Attorneys seeking to recover cash for creditors have sued an array of defendants including a trust set up by L. Ron Hubbard, the deceased founder of the Church of Scientology; two leading Wall Street investment firms; former Gov. Edwin Edwards' son, Stephen; an associate of the former governor; and WRT's directors and officers. At least 10 of the suits make allegations of fraud. The massive litigation over the company's failure inching through U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Opelousas. One case where there have been developments is that of Florence, a Houstonian who was WRT's director of marketing and whose tasks at the company included selling WRT's oil and gas to other companies. At the same time as he worked for WRT, Florence set up his own company, Tri-Deck Oil Gas Inc., to act as an intermediary, buying WRT's oil and selling it to larger companies, he has said. Meanwhile, WRT's former president, Steven McGuire, has said he cannot recall signing WRT's oil sales contract with Tri-Deck, although McGuire's signature appears on the contract. Florence has said he got $2.6 million from selling WRT's oil, and sent that money to the offshore account after discussions with Gordon Kerr, an attorney in the Turks and Caicos Islands. But Florence said in a sworn statement he could not recall how he learned about the account or when he transferred the money, though it might have been in 1996. Florence also said he sent the money as a "blind investment," making it impossible for him to get any information about the money. In a sworn deposition in November, Florence professed ignorance about his offshore arrangement with Kerr. "I don't know what a blind investment is, but it was made based on my conversations with him," Florence said. He said he made the investment "with expectations of great returns."Attorneys for a trust representing WRT's creditors have asserted that Florence defrauded WRT though the oil marketing contract, perhaps with McGuire's help. Florence has repeatedly blocked efforts to uncover information about the money, the attorneys claimed. Florence has denied those claims and said he intends to pay WRT any money he owes the company for selling its oil. On Friday, Skinner acknowledged the U.S. Attorney's Office is investigating Florence, but said he could not comment on whether his office is probing other dealings by WRT. "It's generally our policy not to even confirm that an investigation is under way," he said. The creditors trust - headed by former New York City comptroller Harrison Goldin - pointed to the criminal investigation when it asked U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Gerald Schiff to block movement of the money from the account. Florence "would possibly flee and dissipate the funds," Kerry Brennan, an attorney for Goldin's law firm, Winthrop, Stimson, Putnam Roberts of New York City, said in an affidavit. On Dec. 28, Judge Schiff, who is overseeing the case, ordered Florence not to move the money and "not to take any steps to thwart" the trust from getting information about it. In 1997, an independent bankruptcy examiner reported that he found numerous transfers of funds by WRT and people associated with the company for which there was no explanation or for which WRT received little or no value. Last year, Judge Schiff approved a partial resolution of the bankruptcy in which an Oklahoma oil company bought WRT's oilfield leases and other assets. Yet with WRT's creditors claiming they are still owed more than $100 million, Schiff set up trust headed by Goldin to bring litigation to recoup funds for the creditors. Here are some snapshots of the litigation: Scientology founder Hubbard invested money in a company run by McGuire, according to Goldin's attorneys. WRT improperly paid out some
[CTRL] Fwd: China/North Korea
___ What's going on in your world? Find Out. Visit Stratfor's Global Intelligence Center http://www.stratfor.com/world/default.htm ___ TODAY ON STRATFOR.COM - RUSSIA 2000 Visit Stratfor.com today to read about what Putin's spy career means for Russia's future. Then check back Tuesday, Nov. 9, to read the third installment in our series, discussing Moscow's desire to reassert control over the country's restless regions. http://www.stratfor.com/ ___ STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update November 5, 1999 Chinese Influence on the Rise in Pyongyang Summary North Korean special units were called in to quell riots in North Hamgyong province in mid-October, according to reports in South Korean and Chinese media this week. The riots came as border security in North Korea and China was being tightened, and more attention paid to the status of North Koreans crossing the border illegally. With Chinese-North Korean ties generally on the mend, the threat of increased internal instability in North Korea may lead Beijing to accelerate its assistance to - and influence in - Pyongyang. Analysis A riot broke out Oct. 11 in North Korea's North Hamgyong Province, which borders both China and Russia, according to Chinese and South Korean media reports published this week. North Korea mobilized an elite border guard unit to quash the riots, which took place near the northwestern border city of Onsong. The special unit responded with helicopters and ground forces, and followed up with a search operation to find the leaders of the riot and "outside impure elements." North Korea has long harnessed the fear of social instability to gain leverage in dealings with other nations. By playing up outsiders' paranoia that a collapsing regime may resort to any measure - including launching a suicide attack on South Korea - it wins economic humanitarian assistance while maintaining its isolation. [ http://www.stratfor.com/asia/aiuarchive/a981222.htm ] But the riot near Onsong suggests that unrest in some outlying regions of the country may be near the breaking point. This does not mean that a general uprising against Kim Jong Il's government is near, but that localized dissatisfaction with the current economic and political situation could lead to eruptions of violence, requiring military intervention. Signs of instability - especially real, not engineered, instability - could win Korea support from a wary China. The riots came amid tightened border security by both North Korea and China, designed to stem the flow of illegal North Korean citizens seeking food and medicine across the Tumen River in China. While many of the North Koreans crossing into China are reportedly seeking refugee status, both sides oppose calling them refugees out of fear that granting such status would trigger a massive increase in the number of North Koreans crossing into China. The incident in Onsong seems to be isolated, at least for now. Potential unrest appears confined to the border areas, where political and ideological exiles are often sent, and news of the outside is easier to obtain. With North Korea increasing economic and social exchanges with other nations to bolster its shrinking economy, such internal dissatisfaction could spread. As North Korea balances its financial distress with the need to remain insulated from the rest of the world, there are other signs that the regime's security may be threatened. Kim Jong Il's eldest son, Kim Jong Nam, has taken a post in the Ministry of Public Security, an early step toward succeeding his father. The elder Kim's rise to power following his father Kim Il Sung's death was a slow process, marked by purges in the government ranks. Firmly establishing Kim Yong Nam as his successor could be an attempt to counter a threat against Kim Jong Il's authority. Placing his son in a position of public security, tasked with information gathering and finding dissidents, signals to both the citizens of North Korea and to potential opponents that the Kim Dynasty will continue. By emphasizing the dynastic succession implemented by his father, Kim Jong Il hopes to rekindle public affection for North Korea's leadership, which has dwindled without Kim Il Sung's charismatic presence. While the signals out of North Korea may be simply more false signs of imminent collapse, the unrest in the north and potential splits in Pyongyang suggest the precarious situation may be more than a carefully crafted diplomatic bargaining tool. A truly destabilized North Korea poses a threat not only to South Korea and the U.S. forces there, but also to China, Russia and possibly Japan. While South Korea, the United States and even to some extent Japan have accelerated contact with North Korea, it is China that has recently forged the closest ties. China has already been moving to strengthen relations with
[CTRL] Fwd: Edwards Air Force base story
June wrote: I missed hearing and it turned out I think that the false stories (about the distress signal and about Edwards Air Force base) J Do we know for sure that these stories ARE false? Will we ever know J for sure? Perhaps the later stories denying them are what are in fact J false. As I said, I thought the mere fact of being denied would be enough to say it could not be true. In the meantime, I found a message on alt.disasters.aviation where someone ssaid information about flights is released on real time on the Internet. Date: 11-02-99 (14:51) Number: 235970 of 236746 (Refer# NONE) To: ALL From: [EMAIL PROTECTED], CJS Subj: Re: Egyptair 990 Weirdeness Read: (N/A) Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: alt.conspiracy (1086) Read Type: TEXT SCAN (+) [SNIP] Bt. There are many firms which track airplane flights. This data is out on the web long before anything can happen to the plane. Thousands of users download this data. Yet not one has come forward to say that the data has been falsified. Hmmm... I downloaded it myself. Was it you who felt the same way about the idea of TWA Flight 800 rea;;ly being at 8,000 feet?
Re: [CTRL] [10] Interference
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 8:34 AM Subject: [CTRL] [10] Interference -Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Interference Dan E. Moldea©1989 William Morrow and Company, Inc. New York, NY Interestingly, accompanying Wexler's application for the license were the names of three people who could vouch for his character, one of whom was Modell's longtime friend George M. Steinbrenner III of Cleveland, the president of American Ship Building Company and later the owner of the New York Yankees major-league baseball team. Dan Topping and Del Webb sold their interests in the New York Yankees to the Columbia Broadcasting System in 1964. In 1973, Steinbrenner and his "committee of fifteen" purchased the team from CBS. Among Steinbrenner's partners in the Yankees were auto executive John DeLorean, Nelson Bunker Hunt, and Ohio real estate tycoon Marvin Warner. Marvin Warner was much more than a real estate tycoon. See Pete Brewton's book, page 280: [In 1980 and 1981] Birbragher was laundering the cartel's drug money through Great American Bank...owned by Marvin Warner, an Alabama native whose businesses were based out of Cincinnati. Like Charles Keating, his fellow Cincinnatian, who also got caught in the savings-and-loan debacle, Warner is full of arrogance, bluster and hubris, a man who thought his political connections and influence mongering would save him, and when it didn't, carped bitterly about government interference. Warner got his start building houses after World War II. In the late 1950s, he bought Home State Savings in Ohio and prospered, investing in race horses and professional sports teams. In 1977, his support of Democrats paid off when President Jimmy Carter appointed him U.S. Ambassador to Switzerland. During his absence overseas, Warner hired Donald E. Beazley, a Miami banker and former federal bank examiner, to run Great American. Before Beazley joined Warner he had worked for a while for Guillermo Hernandez-Cartaya, according to author James Ring Adams in The Big Fix. CIA asset Hernandez-Cartaya had gotten involved with Warner's close associates at the fraud-infested E.S.M. Securities. In fact, E.S.M. files contained a note from Hernandez-Cartaya thanking an E.S.M. principal for his offer to help in the sale or purchase of Jefferson Savings and Loan in McAllen, Texas, from Lloyd Bentsen's family. [In case you aren't familiar with Texas geography, McAllen is on the Mexican border.] When Warner returned from Switzerland in 1979, he took Beazley's place at Great American Bank. Beazley then jumped to the presidency of the Nugan Hand Bank in Australia. That bank, the subject of a book by Jonathan Kwitny, The Crimes of Patriots, was crawling with ex-CIA (if there is such a things as ex-CIA) and former high-ranking military officials, and was used in drug-money laundering, weapons transactions and the cheating of American investors, among other things... [Then Brewton goes on to Paul Helliwell, Castle Bank Trust, Edwin Wilson, Ted Shackley, etc.] After Beazley left Nugan Hand..., he returned to Florida banking...as president of City National Bank of Miami...[which] was owned by Alberto Duque, a Colombian whose father was a wealthy coffee magnate. The attorney for the bank was Stephen Arky, Marvin Warner's son-in-law Arky committed suicide in July 1985 after the E.S.M. Government Securities fraud scandal broke. The collapse of E.S.M. wrecked the Home State Savings of Arky's father-in-law, Warner, and led to Warner's conviction for fraud. [Arky] was praised by his former boss at the SEC, where Arky worked after getting out of law school. "He was one of my real success stories," Stanley Sporkin, then general counsel to the CIA, told the Miami Herald. [Sporkin was William Casey's protege.] ...In 1983, just days before Duque's empire started collapsing, Jeb Bush accompanied Duque on one of his private planes to the inauguration of the President of Costa Rica. At the time, Jeb and his partner, Armando Codina, were building a 30-story office building in downtown Miami that was to be the new headquarters of Duque's General Coffee Corporation. [Then Brewton moves on to a discussion of Marvin Warner's involvement in General Homes, a corporation which had shifted from Phoenix to Houston, engaging in construction of residential homes. Warner's American Savings Loan bought 43% of General Homes in Jan. 1983. This were where my own personal research started.] Linda Minor DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and
[CTRL] re-post[CTRL] Bill: Thanks for the 1998 Memories
-Caveat Lector- I ttp://www.zolatimes.com/V2.44/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V2.44/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 2 Issue 44/A The Laissez Faire City Times December 28, 1998 - Volume 2, Issue 44 Editor Chief: Emile Zola - Bill: Thanks for the 1998 Memories (depending on what the word "thanks" means) by Jack Ryan Looking back on 1998 is a heady, almost surreal exercise. What a year. Bill Clinton's Sexgate brought to the world stage so many memorable moments and characters, that I defy anyone to chronicle from memory the order of events that L'affaire Lewinsky entailed. I'm quite certain your head would explode into little cranium chunks should you attempt it. Let me save your sanity and your cranium. So many memories; so few months to have crammed them into. It is almost with a sense of sorrow and loss that I say good-bye to 1998. There is no bitterness or recalcitrance as I bid adieu, for I say good-bye in the manner one might wave good-bye to a beloved grandmother, or perhaps as Bill Clinton might have once waved good-bye to his beloved humidor, Monica S. Lewinsky. For as we say good-bye today, we can be certain that we shall meet again on the morrow--in the form of 1999. Here's hoping that the new year will be as unique and memorable in the history books. As for 1998, thanks, Bill Clinton, for the memories. Though the American people have always known you to be a lying rogue, they overlooked that in two elections. Although they knew you to be less than honest, they took a Shakespearean read, knowing that you could sometimes be honest by chance. You gave us so many enchanting moments this year. Your contributions to American society in 1998 had less to do with legislation than it did with masturbation. It had less to do with pounding the pulpit than it with did with pounding a porker. You taught us many things we might not have otherwise discovered for ourselves. We now know that "is" may not always be. We now know that no one is actually ever "alone"; although there are 5 billion other souls on this planet who would quibble with that silly notion. We now know that while you chose to protest your government during Vietnam, you have deployed, dispersed, and put into harm's way the U.S. military more times than any president before you . Looking back through the foggy and sometimes cryptic looking-glass of time, we now know you spent 50 million dollars in cruise missile currency to destroy a Sudanese aspirin factory-- the same day that Harmonica Lewinsky gave her grand jury testimony. We said it was "Wag the Dog." You said, in all your phony indignation, that it wasn't. We think thou doth protest too much. Mr. Clinton, you also taught us that Monica's loose lips can--and indeed did--sink ships. We will never know how many innocent Iraqis died in your Wag the Willy attack recently. But we can be fairly certain that your attack had more to do with the result of Monica's trash talk about your meat missile, than it did with Hussein's SCUD missiles. And thanks for the lessons, Bill. You taught us how to mislead, lie, equivocate and quibble. The lessons were simple and understandable: From January to December, you showed us how to perjure ourselves in 12 easy lessons. Now we know that O.J. Simpson simply mislead the prosecutors and the jury. He never lied--at least not to the Clinton standard of lying. You, Mr. Clinton, raised the perjury bar so high that it would take a Saturn 5 heavy launch vehicle to get over it. Yea, verily, perhaps like Apollo 13, your tale will one day grace the silver screen. "Hillary, we have a problem." Thanks, Bill, for the intriguing personalities you brought to national prominence. My Sundays would not have been complete without my cornflakes and the plethora of nabobs and nincompoops who paraded out to defend your considerable rear end. Thanks for Rahm Emanuel, who never met a convoluted sentence he did not like. Rahm proved to us that even a man with all the passion and emotion of a week-old cadaver could regurgitate the lies you fed him. Thank you, Bill, for Paul Begala. The swami of smarm had his legs cut out from under him after your August 17th temper tantrum. But Paul showed us, like others under you (or kneeling), that there is no depth too low in which one can sink for a cause. He shaved his beard off in the hope we would not recognize him. It didn't work. Thanks, Bill, for Chester James Carville. For months, Corporal Cueball Carville raged his own private "Wah" against your nemesis and fellow Man of the Year, Judge Kenneth Starr. For months, he badmouthed, harangued and swamped the airwaves with vitriol, lies and half-truths. What a soldier, you had there, Bill. The end result of this war was your impeachment. James deserves a promotion. We thank you, Bill, for Ann Lewis and her horn-blowing brother, Barney Frank. Ann Lewis suggested on a
[CTRL] [10] The Arizona Project
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Arizona Project Michael Wendland©1977 ISBN 0-8362-0728-9 Sheed Andrews and McMeel, Inc. 6700 Squibb Rd. Misson Kansas 66202 276 pps. - first edition - out-of-print New revised edition - available amazon.com Paperback, 304pp. ISBN: 0945165021 Blue Sky Press, Incorporated June 1988 = 10 Mafia West There has always been something about Arizona that has attracted the outlaw. Bank robbers, claim jumpers, hired gunfighters, and such famous badmen as the Hole in the Wall Gang and Butch Cassidy are synonymous with the Old West and Arizona's history. In the early days, it was the state's proximity to Mexico and its wide-open, rugged terrain that attracted the old-style hoodlums. The state had room to hide in and a foreign border to flee to should legal pursuit be too intense. In the twentieth century, crime and criminals are more sophisticated. Yet Arizona, which somehow has remained a step or two behind the rest of the country, remains equally appealing to the criminal. Mexico is no longer a sanctuary: today it is almost like a business partner for the American hoodlum, a place where the raw materialopiumcomes from for the mob's main businessnarcotics. And the state's wide-open spaces, while still plentiful, are more aesthetic than protective. Instead, Arizona's chief appeal to the criminal lies in the cumulative effect of the outlaw's heritage, the attitudes and actions accepted through centuries of apathy. For the criminal, Arizona is a good place to do business. It is a state where the outlaw has always flourished. Indeed, even today, in such tourist attractions as Tombstone and Old Tucson, the outlaw is celebrated with twice-daily mock shoot-outs by actors and stunt men. The crudeness is not as blatant as it was in the old days. Phoenix and Tucson both abound in cultural activities. There are excellent local theatres, symphony orchestras, art museums. But just beneath the surface, much more obvious than in most Eastern cities, is a macho-like respect for the maverick, the man who makes his own rules, lives by his own law. The Old West is not very old in Arizona. It was that element of Arizona society that the IRE team would investigate next. What the reporters would find was that, like the old-fashioned outlaw who drifted West from back East, Arizona's new hoodlums were immigrants from elsewhere. And, like the narcotics pouring across the Arizona border, the state was being inundated with them. Wendland and Drehsler returned from Mexico to find a surprising number of new team members. The suite was crowded and the telephones so busy that it was often all but impossible to find working space. Doug Kramer, a young reporter from the Elyria Chronicle in Elyria, Ohio, had arrived for a couple of weeks' work. Jerry Uhrhammer, a forty- three-year-old, mild-mannered writer for the E ugene Register-Guard in Oregon, was there for an indefinite stay. So were Steven Wick and David Freed from the Colorado Springs Sun. Ed Rooney, a grizzled old police reporter from the Chicago Daily News, had given up ten days of his vacation to come work on the Arizona project. He also paid his own expenses. Ross Becker, a tall, gangly, bearded young reporter who joined the project in mid-November, was an anomaly among team members. He had next to no substantive journalism experience and, instead of being recruited, talked his way onto the team by simply pestering Greene. But he would be a full-time member, with the project until its completion. At twenty-four, Becker had been working out of a trailer on the 642-square-mile Zuni Indian reservation in New Mexico, covering Indian news for the Gallup (New Mexico) Independent when he heard about the IRE team and decided that he wanted to enlist. He tracked down Greene and began calling the IRE office almost daily, begging for a chance. But Greene was concerned about Becker's background. The kid had just over a year's experience in newspapering, almost all of it with small papers in remote parts of the Southwest. The Arizona project, Greene felt, would be over Becker's head. But instead of flat-out telling the persistent young reporter to get lost, Greene kept stalling him, hoping he'd get the hint. But Becker continued calling each day. Finally, after Greene began refusing his calls, Becker got up one morning at five-thirty, borrowed a girlfriend's car, and spent six hours on the road, reaching Phoenix shortly before noon. From the lobby of the Adams, he phoned the IRE office. Marge Cashel, the secretary, routinely told him Greene was tied up in a meeting and would call Becker back. "The hell he will," said Becker. "I'm downstairs and coming up to see him." They met in Greene's connecting bedroom to the IRE suite. Becker told Greene he realized his background was less than complete but vowed to make up for it by enthusiasm. He said he'd do anything, even the dirty work and errand running, he just wanted in. Each time Greene started to
Re: [CTRL] Maxygen Announces $6.7 Million Grant from DARPA to DevelopAerosolized Vaccines
-Caveat Lector- Steve, Where did you get this announcement from - the source? Hilary -- From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Maxygen Announces $6.7 Million Grant from DARPA to DevelopAerosolized Vaccines Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:14 PM -Caveat Lector- (This company is just coincidentally located to the east of today's chemtrail off the coast of Northern California. --SW) Maxygen Announces $6.7 Million Grant from DARPA to Develop Aerosolized Vaccines Redwood City, CA, September 28, 1999. Maxygen announced today that it has received a $6.7 million three-year grant from the Defense Advanced Research Agency (DARPA) to use its proprietary MolecularBreeding directed evolution technology (also known as "DNA Shuffling") to develop aerosol-based vaccines to protect against a broad spectrum of pathogens. Aerosol delivery of prophylactic and therapeutic agents is potentially the simplest and most cost-effective way to protect or treat humans and animals from disease epidemics. In addition to this recent DARPA grant, Maxygen is the recipient of two additional DARPA grants in the vaccine area. In February 1998, Maxygen received a $5.6 million grant to evolve novel DNA vectors for efficient delivery and expression of pathogen antigens, and in April 1999, the Company received a grant of $7.7 million to generate novel vaccine antigens for a wide range of pathogens. Maxygen, Inc., headquartered in Redwood City, CA is a private biotechnology company that is focused on the development of novel and improved commercial products using its proprietary MolecularBreeding directed evolution technology for a variety of industries including human therapeutics, chemicals, vaccines, industrial enzymes, and agriculture. The Company is the leader in nucleic acid recombination technologies for imparting new properties into single genes, multi-gene systems, pathways, vectors and genomes. Maxygen has commercial relationships with several companies including Novo Nordisk in certain areas of industrial enzymes, Pioneer Hi-Bred and ZenecaAgrochemicals for specific products in agriculture and DSM Anti-Infectives for improved manufacturing of certain classes of penicillin antibiotics. Maxygen was founded in a March 1997 spinout from Glaxo Wellcome-Affymax, led by biotech entrepreneur Alejandro Zaffaroni, and MolecularBreeding inventor Pim Stemmer. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sign Eagle Forum's petition to STOP the Panama Giveaway!
http://www.eagleforum.org/panama/petition/index.html Brothers and Sisters, Do your Duty and spread this far and wide. Bard Visit me at: http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm 10th Amendment "I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people' (10th Amendment). To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specifically drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible to any definition." -- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to George Washington,15 February, 1791 Title: Sign Eagle Forum's petition to STOP the Panama Giveaway! eagleforum.orgEmergency Alert for American National Security Read: Red China: Gatekeeper of the Panama Canal Panama the Biggest Blast of Y2K Admiral Moorer's Testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Charles R. Hazard/Insight To: U.S. Senators and Representatives: We the undersigned urge you to reassert and reconfirm U.S. military presence in Panama in order to protect the Canal and to stop any future use of strategic bases or ports in Panama by the Communist Chinese. On December 31, 1999, Communist China is scheduled to take over a strategic beachhead in the Western Hemisphere -- a port at each end of our Panama Canal. We cannot allow this to happen because Communist China is the greatest national security threat to America for the foreseeable future. Unless Congress acts now, we will be heading for disaster -- a missile crisis or a crisis affecting America's most important military and commercial waterway. Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Admiral Thomas Moorer told the U.S. Senate that "we are on what I consider to be a collision course with disaster. . . . I truly can't remember a time when I have been more concerned about the security of the country." Time is short. Please act now to stop Communist China from getting a foothold in Panama. Please co-sponsor one of the resolutions on Panama in the Senate: Sen. Jeff Sessions' S.Con.Res. 61 in the Senate: Sen. Bob Smith's S.Con.Res. 59 in the House: Rep. Dana Rohrabacher's H.Con.Res. 186 FIELDS MARKED WITH * ARE REQUIRED. Name:* City:*State:* Please e-mail me any Alerts or Updates E-Mail:* (Please double check your e-mail address for accuracy.) Privacy Policy: Your name and address will not be sold, rented or marketed to anyone else. Eagle Forum * PO Box 618 * Alton, IL * 62002e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] TWA 800/EgyptAir 990 Stuff
-Caveat Lector- Go here: http://users.erols.com/igoddard/twa-core.htm and you will find a nifty article with glossy charts, graphix, and pictures that deal with TWA 800. And there's a bunch of hot linques. And here: http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=1999/11/1/101212 is a little something about EgyptAir 990 and something about 'conspiracy'. AER DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: URGENT/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent]
-Caveat Lector- Headline news just announced three cases of the Bubonic Plague in ColoradoNov.5,1999. From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] [Fwd: URGENT/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent] Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:58:06 +1200 -Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: URGENT/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:26:26 + From: "NewsHawk Inc." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: NewsHawk Inc. 9.23.99 Denver/Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent We are forwarding this message from a trusted source in the Denver area, who has provided much useful information to both "official" and unofficial uncompromised investigators: for example, recently in the Columbine school massacre and the murders of JFK Jr., wife and sister-in-law. NewsHawk Inc. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I've received information today--Sept.23, 1999-- from 2 of my sources, both of whom I trust, that the Denver Metro area will be hit with a Bio-Chemical attack sometime within the next month. I've known of Bio-Chemicals being stored in the Mountains just outside Denver, possibly in/on Mt. Evans, for quite some time. I've spent a lot of time attempting to locate said Bio-Chemical weapons, and the terrorists that hold them and guard them. They are a conglomerate of "terrorists" in that some are Mexican, some are Russian, some are Libyan, some are Afghani, etc. We anticipated this attack closer to the Y2K deadline, but are not surprised at the accelerated date. We believe this will be used as the excuse to declare Martial Law, and of course remove what freedoms we have left, after first killing between 300,000 - 400,000 people: population reduction, in other words. Buy Gas masks and Bio-Chemical suits, now. As always, these plans CAN be thwarted if we make this public enough, albeit, for a brief period of time. Only God and his son can ultimately put a stop to these bastards. And they will, in their time. Anyway, please pass this on to everyone you can possibly think of an have them make this information known as publicly as possible. Also, I hold you to your promise of my complete anonymity. Thanks. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christians Unwelcome in Israel
-Caveat Lector- Dear Prudy, Well said, but for others to understand it needs to be explained that Christ hates Xmas and said so in Revelation. For full details please access:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/xmas.htm Peace be upon you, JAH. - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Christians Unwelcome in Israel -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/03/1999 1:19:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Rabbis view Christian festivities in Israel as a threat to the Jewish foundations of the state. They are claiming that even Christmas trees 'defile Judaism.' It would seem that the rabbis agree with Christ in this case. I don;t know who is defiling whom, since I don't know whether they are agreeing with Him or He with they. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition of God.
-Caveat Lector- Dear Franklin, Actually I wrote that all human LAWS are illegal. But I guess it was just that you made a typing error. Or did you misread and misinterpret what I said? I suggest you read what I said slowly and fully, please and then see if you don't agree with what I'm doing. You should, from your comments about the pope and the other so-called christian religions, enjoy my website, especially:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/darth.htm Please spread it around to everyone you know and get them writing to the Irish Minister for Heritage to persuade her to give me the "permit to dig" at Tara to recover The Ark of The Covenant, ASAP. Peace be upon you, JAH. - Original Message - From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition of God. -Caveat Lector- "According to God ALL humans are illegal" you write below. OK, I grant you that compared to Someone who has created the universe with its billions of stars x billions of galaxies (just for starters) we are more lowly than monkeys in a zoo who sense that there is a human keeper beyond the bars. Still, we read in Ottawa's Commons Debates from 1981, Doug Roche, MP's reference to a "Godless society" so by contrast we would expect there to be a "Godly society". Even a primate like me can figure that out. Is there more to all this than a lot of bananas we ask cogently? Professor Mellert who got the October cover story of The Futurist (http://www.wfs.org/futurist.htm) suggests that the future of religion is that of a highly relativistic God. Well, I guess it depends on your beliefs. And it depends on the TRUTHthe ABSOLUTE TRUTH. In any case, I have been saying via Life Gazette, as tabloid in the 80's and online now, that this is the electric cool-aid acid test for "Religion Experts". And I believe it proves that at least Western churchianity from Protestant to Roman Catholic is a giant FRAUD. Vatican is an INSTITUTION OF LIARS. It would be easy to prove me wrong. Look, this is easy to understand: FOR A PROFESSED RELIGION EXPERT FROM SALVATION ARMY TO ROMAN CATHOLIC TO NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A "GODLY SOCIETY" AND AN "UNGODLY SOCIETY" IS LIKE A DENTIST NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HEALTHY TOOTH AND AN UNHEALTHY TOOTH. In 1891, Vatican made a call for a socio-economic-political "reformation" and that document, titled RERUM NOVARUM has been "updated" with the vanities of popocrats ever since. Yet no articulation of a "Godly society" has been made. THIS IS PROOF OF A CENTURY OF FRAUD. Now Vatican is about to send its Numero Uno Liar, the pope, to India and Iraq. The motto of the Times of India is "Let Truth Prevail". And Jesus Christ said, "I came to tell the truth". So let us hear from Numero Uno how his billion subjects on the planet with all their expertise would spell out "Babylon II". Just across the sand, Kuwait is planning Subia, a brand new city for 260,000. Why not combine something old and something new? Build a brand new city, Babylon II, around the Babylon Restoration Project. This would be a GODLY SOCIETY. The Russians might even like it as a shining light unto the nations, a multi-national city centre for their "Multi-Poley" World Model as an antidote to the depraved US-led New World Order. FWP. -Original Message- From: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition of God. -Caveat Lector- According to God ALL human laws are illegal. Therefore The Bible is the ONLY Law Book on Earth. Deuteronomy 4:1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the Statutes and unto the Judgments, which I teach you, for to DO [them], that ye may LIVE, and go in and possess the land which the "I AM" God of your fathers giveth you. 4:2 Ye shall not ADD unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the Commandments of the "I AM" your God which I COMMAND you. During the British Coronation the Archbishop places The Bible in the hands of the British monarch saying: "Our gracious king/queen, we present you with this Book, the most valuable thing that this world affords. Here is Wisdom. This is the Royal Law. These are the lively oracles of God." The monarch swears to uphold The Law (PLEASE read Deuteronomy 17:14-20). Canadians are all Israelites by birth, being descended from the Ten "Lost" Tribes of Israel and all Israelites signed The Covenant with God at Horeb in Sinai and must now return to keeping only God's Laws in order to defeat the NWO or perish. Please see Malachi 4 below for proof. With that in mind please read and act on the following to help me to recover The "Lost" Ark of
Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links
-Caveat Lector- Dear Joshua2, Please visit my website at:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/ and study it. Then you will find out how I know. I do not appreciate being insulted and if you want to have a sensible and respectful dialogue with me, you should first apologise for what you said about me last week. Peace be upon you, JAH. - Original Message - From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links -Caveat Lector- JAH Publications wrote: -Caveat Lector- That is exactly what Satan wants you to think so you won't see him coming. JAH. How do you know this??? Joshua2 --Original Message - Satan is fiction. Om K __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reptiles Rule the World Theory of David Icke
Dear Eagle 1, It is very hard to take David Icke seriously, after he claimed on television, and I saw him do it personally, to be Christ and that his wife was the incarnation of the Archangel Michael. Anyone who really understands the Scriptures as Christ does because Christ is the Word (Scriptures) made flesh, would not make such a ridiculous statement about his wife, or about Christ, because Christ and the Archangel Michael are one and the same person. Christ is a title and not a name. Christ's (the Spiritual Being that inhabited the body called Jesus) real name is Prince Michael the Archangel. So, I have difficulty taking anything David Icke says too seriously, Peace be upon you, JAH. - Original Message - From: Eagle 1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 4:02 AM Subject: [CTRL] "Reptiles Rule the World" Theory of David Icke . . . if Icke is correct in maintaining that reptoids have been runninghuman politics ever since the days of Babylon and preying on humans, etc.,then we'd expect to find a fairly large body of folklore, among the Aryanpeoples especially (blue-eyed Aryans are supposedly their favorite food),that would point toward that reality. The existence of a sinister reptoidalpeople-eating elite . . . Perhaps now we know why the push to quit smoking is so prevailant. The reptoids don't like to eat people who are smokers ??? Food for thought. LOL Welcoming the NWO... let's get it over with. eagle 1
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991105a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. : No computer networks were hexed/cursed to produce this bulletin. Yet. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ WORK WELL WITH OTHERS: http://www.email.net/work-well-together.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # WACO RE-EXAMINED: Film sequel continues charge of Waco cover-up. WASHINGTON - Your typical movie premiere doesn't include allegations of homicide by the federal government. But that was the theme of Waco: A New Revelation, unveiled reporters and researchers of the 1993 siege that ended in the fiery deaths of more than 80 Branch Davidians. http://www.dallasnews.com/specials/waco/1104waco1waco.htm # ALSO - Back to Waco: http://www.dallasnews.com/specials/waco/ # The standoff: http://www.dallasnews.com/specials/waco/standoff/ # Federal roles: http://www.dallasnews.com/specials/waco/federal/ # Davidians, Koresh: http://www.dallasnews.com/specials/waco/brkoresh/ # Aftermath: http://www.dallasnews.com/specials/waco/aftermath/ # The trials: http://www.dallasnews.com/specials/waco/trial/ : How many levels of Waco cover-up are there? Once you peel back one layer, how many more layers are underneath? What's at the core? *IS* there a core? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ $ Voodoo will keep you Y2K compliant. Inventor/Priestess Madame Louise claims her kit is all you need to keep your computer Y2K-safe. The kit, called the "Netwanga" (US$12.95) is a satin bag containing voodoo charms and software codes. She says that the bag casts its protective magical spell when placed on a computer or attached to a monitor. Fortunately, the kits are available for Windows, Macintosh, Linux, other operating systems. Madame Louise is also developing voodoo love potions for people using chat groups on the Net. http://www.netwanga.com/ : Do computers work by black magic? Do y'r Net/System operations respond to voodoo procedures? Do you prefer voodoo computing, voodoo economics, voodoo sex, voodoo politics, voodoo art, voodoo robotics? Do Reptoids use voodoo? $ MMs CYBERCENTER OF MILLENNIUM HYPE. D'ya know that MMs are "The Official Candy of the New Millennium"? MM is the Roman numeral representation of 2000, get it? Now you know. Check out this corporate site. Oh yeah, you can also register for a couple contests proclaim yourself the "Darned- Near-Official" something of the millennium. http://www.m-ms.com/ : Do you exploit the Millennia? Did you read the last line of this bulletin? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Falun Gong Members Die In China Custody. HONG KONG (Reuters) At least 6 members of China's outlawed Falun Gong spiritual movement have died in detention since August. One was beaten to death by police, 4 took their own lives to escape persecution one died after 4 days of hunger strike. Since China banned Falun Gong in July, cops have busted hundreds of yjr,. http://news.excite.com/news/r/991104/22/international-religion-china # POPE DEPARTS FOR INDIA AS FUNDAMENTALISTS PROTEST. Pope John Paul II left Rome Friday for a three-day visit to India, where thousands took to the streets of New Dehli to protest his impending arrival. "Pope go back, pope go back" - http://cnn.com/ASIANOW/south/9911/05/pope.india.01/index.html # India trip to test pope's outreach, powers of persuasion - buckle up: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561922877-4c6 : What's your favorite spiritual.movement/religion/cult/sect/ideology? Do you like to impose violence on members of other belief systems? Is it fun? # Pop goes paganism. Many recent Hollywood offerings borrow images, themes and stories from alternative spiritualities - Wicca, paganism, NewAge the occult among them. http://dallasnews.com/religion/1030rel2second.htm # Satanism? http://www.rickross.com/reference/satanism/satanism59.html # The Amish Challenge: http://www.primenet.com/~obscure/amish.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The internet according to the ChurchOfEngland - Pray in for cyberspace. (BBC) It's less a matter of C of E than C of e-. A report published by the Church of England has given Christians advice on how they should behave on the internet. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_503000/503690.stm @ Links - Ship of Fools: http://ship-of-fools.com/ @ Cybernauts Awake: http://www.starcourse.org/sciteb2/starcourse/cyber/ # U.S. vulnerable to cyber attacks. WASHINGTON (AP) Reliance on the Internet has made the nation vulnerable to attacks by terrorists who strike through computers rather than with bombs or bullets, a WhiteHouse security adviser sez: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561923783-076 : Do you promote your ideology on the Net? Can such promotion be seen as an attack on anything? Do we all wage cyberwar, one way or another? Is it good? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ #
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991105b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. : No millennialists were deported during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Media Bypass: www.4bypass.com -- Free America: www.freeamerica.com _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Clinton's Canadian Nemesis. (Reuters) A Web site in Canada is shut down by authorities for posting threats to kill the president of the United States. http://www.wired.com/news/reuters/0,1349,32338,00.html @ Since Oswald Didn't Do It... What do we really know, 36 years after JFK's assassination? Why are the records not released in full? What does the statement: "Those files are postponed in full for reasons of National Security" actually mean? If those files contained evidence, in support of the "official version" -- then exactly "which Nation's Security is being assured" by the continued classification of these "innocuous" documents? Do they matter? http://www.sightings.com/politics5/oswald.htm : What was your role in the JFK assassination coverup? Are you another un-indicted co-conspirator? What's your role in the upcoming Clinton removal?? @ Conspiracy Journal: http://www.members.tripod.com/uforeview/ $ CJ Bookshop: http://www.members.tripod.com/uforeview/contents.html @ CJ Breaking News: http://www.members.tripod.com/uforeview/news.html @ Cmdr. X Files: http://www.members.tripod.com/uforeview/xfiles.html # EA 990 Plot! http://www.members.tripod.com/uforeview/egyptair990.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Israel Deports Xian Predicting Second Coming. JERUSALEM (Reuters) Israel deported to the United States a Christian leader who came to Jerusalem to witness what cult members believe will be a millennial Second Coming. http://news.excite.com/news/r/991105/03/international-israel-christians # Holy Land Dispute Prompts Church Shutdown. JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Churches in the Holy Land said they would shut for two days this month to protest plans by Israel for a mosque to be built near the main Christian shrine in Nazareth, the town where Jesus grew up. The announcement carried a veiled threat that church doors could also slam shut at Christmas. It cast more clouds over Israel's hopes for a millennium tourism boom and the prospects for a historic pilgrimage to the Holy Land next March by Pope John Paul. http://news.excite.com/news/r/991105/00/international-millennium-holyland : Is the Millennium a better opportunity for commercial/religious exploita- tion, terrorism, political opportunism? What chronological events do you most like to exploit? Do you attack by timetable? Is death on the calendar? @ [MC] Halloween the Druids: Satanic human sacrifice: http://www.fishermen-net.org/Halloween.htm http://www.chick.com/seasonal/halloween/halloweenhistory.asp http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~cstrick/halloween/halloween.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Global Warming Boosts California's Woes. SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) Global warming could add to California's weather woes, with rising temperatures threatening to lead to more flooding, landslides, droughts and wildfires: http://news.excite.com/news/r/991105/02/science-environment-california # MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AT RISK OF BIG QUAKE. Mississippi River Valley cities such as St. Louis and Memphis are in grave danger of being hit by a severe earthquake. Geologists found faults, similar to those responsible for the 1994 Northridge quake that badly damaged the Los Angeles area, all along the New Madrid fault region in Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Illinois and Tennessee. http://cnn.com/NATURE/9911/04/science.quake.reut/index.html # MIDWEST QUAKE THREAT "For the 1st time we can see how fast the earthquake engine is running and how long it takes to build up energy for a quake." See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561922135-506 : Do you prefer dynamic atmospherics or dynamic geophysics? Would'ya rather be killed by earthquake, hurricane, flooding, tornado, brushfire, cougars, aliens, robots, agents, me? Are devils behind all our problems? D'ya care? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Seminary at famed shrine hit by fire. ATTLEBORO, Mass. (UPI) A spectacular fire killed one person destroyed a nearly century-old seminary building at the LaSalette Shrine in Attleboro, Mass., site of the largest outdoor display of holiday lights in the nation. Too much of a good thing: http://news.excite.com/news/u/991105/09/news-shrinefire # BURN'EM ALL - Harry Potter And The Book-Banners: http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-11/02/013l-110299-idx.html # Literacy, Lewdness Wage War On Library Wall: http://www.azcentral.com/community/comcols/1104thomason.shtml : Would you rather burn seminaries, books, witches, leaves, aliens, robots, me? Do you burn with desire? Is your heart afire?
[CTRL] Decoding Nazi Secrets
-Caveat Lector- NOVA Presents "Decoding Nazi Secrets" http://www.pbs.org/nova/decoding/ Web site premiere: November 5, 1999 Broadcast: November 9, 1999 (NOVA usually airs Tuesday nights at 9 pm. Check your local listings.) Explore the companion Web site to "Decoding Nazi Secrets," a two-hour NOVA special that chronicles how the Allies succeeded in cracking the infamous German message-coding machine, the Enigma. The program is scheduled for broadcast on November 9, 1999. Here's what you'll find online: Crack the Ciphers Jim Gillogly, who has been called "arguably the best non-government cryptanalyst in the U.S." in the field of classical (historical) cryptosystems, offers three World War II-style ciphers of different levels of difficulty for viewers to try to break over a two-week period (Nov. 5-19). Send a Coded Message (Hot Science) Manipulate an online version of an Enigma-like machine to encode your own message, then e-mail that message to a friend with instructions on how to decode it using a secret key. A Simple Cipher (Hot Science) Learn some of the tricks codebreakers use to solve ciphers, then use your new talents to make sense of what looks like a bunch of gibberish. Are Web Transactions Safe? Secret codes are not just for spies; they protect your online credit-card purchases, for instance. This feature looks at all the ways encryption affects you, with a special emphasis on the Internet. Mind of a Codebreaker Led by Alan Turing, inventor of the computer, the codebreakers of Bletchley Park were a brilliant, quirky bunch who broke the Enigma in large part by learning to think like the German codemakers themselves. How the Enigma Works The Enigma looks roughly like a typewriter, but it is infinitely more complex, with fully 17,576 ring settings for each of 60 possible wheel orders -- and that is just to set it up for use. Plus Resources and a Teacher's Guide. * * * * * * * * Thank you for visiting NOVA Online. We welcome your questions, comments, and feedback, sent either to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or from our Feedback page at: http://www.pbs.org/nova/postnovafeedback.html We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass
-Caveat Lector- The differences between capitalism (monopoly or otherwise) and communism are profound. Oh they are, huh? Then list these differences, please, so we can have cogent discourse that rises above the puerile level of "love it or leave it." Capitalism: private ownership, supply and demand orientated economy, private property. Communism: state ownership, state economic planning, centralised political control, single party state. Forgive this apparent sparseness. I'm sure there are better words, but this will have to do for the moment. But if you can't see the differences between the US and the USSR then I'm stumped. This "state monopoloy capitalism" is the sort Orwellian wordplay which seeks to obfuscate the real differences between capitalist economies where consumer demand, private ownership and profit incentives guide the economy delivering the society of plenty that most of us live in, To confuse "capitalism" with free enterprise is itself an "Orwellian" word play. Without the armed might of the state to enforce their monopoly the capitalists are nothing but a pack of cards. This is a fascist economy, by definition. "Fascism," stated Mussolini so ever concisely, "is corporatism." Sorry, Nessie but you continue to confuse. Thus far we have according to you: Capitalism=Communism=State Monopoly Capitalism=Corporatism=Fascism =Crypto-Fascism. The only common thread seems to be the existence of state power. You really need to go to college to sort yourself out. Most of us do not live in a "society of plenty." Half of humanity is malnourished, That means three billion people went to bed hungry last night and couldn't do anything about it. Capitalism did that to them. Prove that statistic. Prove that "Capitalism did that to them." Is that what you condone? Is this how you want the rest of us to live so that you personally can wallow in your own creature comforts? If so, sir, you are morally bankrupt. No. I think you're intellectually bankrupt. You're also not paying attention. Even here in America one out of five, perhaps even one out of four, children grow up in poverty. The typical American family needs two, or even three, jobs to break even and is only a couple of pay checks from being out in the street. Real wages have gone steadily downward for decades. In 1968, when I was twenty I lived on Manhattan. I paid $80 a month for a one bedroom apartment. I made $100 a week working twelve hour shifts in the back office of Walston Co, 54 Wall St., a brokerage that no longer exists. My wife stayed home with my infant son. We could afford to eat out a couple times a week. A good steak cost two bucks. Gasoline was $.29. Try that today. Society of plenty? Gimme a break. Business may be booming, but labor is taking it up the butt. This is a sick society. Paper sleeps in a palace and people sleep in the street. In a place like that it's immoral to stand around and do nothing about it. We have a moral duty to change things. To defend such a system is morally remiss. In Christian terms, it is a "sin." and communist economies where state planning, state ownership, and state direction, delivers shortages, sloth and apathy. As opposed to what? In a capitalist society poverty delivers the shortages, only the rich can indulge in "sloth" and apathy is a way of life. Of course, if you think you can convince someone who has lived in a Communist country that the material reality of their lifestyle was no different from life in the "state monopoly capitalist" US go ahead. Well let's see. They had free education, token rent and universal health care. And free speech, plenty of food, the right to travel where they liked, watch they wanted, not to vote, they don't have to join any political parties if they don't want to, multi-party elections, to own a house, car, various other goods. Oh sorry, that's the capitalist world. For a moment I actually believed you said they were the same. I'm over it now. We graduate functional illiterates, You didn't once. And isn't that limited to the state education system? pay through the nose for the "privilege" of living indoors It's a free country. If you want to sleep under the stars it's not illegal. and forty million of us have no health care coverage at all while the rest of us are the victims of a corrupt health care system that has been bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical industry. Yes, people used to wax lyrical about how brilliant the Soviet health care system was. But some people associate the application of such measures to the US a little too much with state interference and state planning. The only real substantive difference between the USA Inc. system and the USSR Inc. system is one has better pay and the other has better benefits. In both systems a handful of ruthless villians live in luxury and the rest of the people work to support them. Both systems corrupt the soul by commodifying time. Time is the very stuff of life itself.
[CTRL] HOW MUCH DID JIM MORRISON KNOW?
-Caveat Lector- HOW MUCH DID JIM MORRISON KNOW? by David Icke Daniel Transit from London has made the following observations about the late Jim Morrison, lead singer in the Doors, who died mysteriously in Paris in 1971. For background to his death see: http://www.synge.com/scandals/deathscandals/deathscandals_jimmorrison.html Daniel wrote: This is simply to point out the connections between your writing about reptilian aliens and the lyrics and poetry of JIM MORRISON. I recommend reading 'The Lords and the New Creatures.' Or, listening to 'Not To Touch The Earth' (on 'Waiting For the Sun' LP) + extended version 'Celebration of the Lizard' (on 'Absolutely Live') to find the GOLDMINE connection. I wrote a report called 'An H-Bomb In Reverse: Jim Morrison The Aliens..' ten years ago (edition of 49 - about 6 copies left still). If you - or anyone else - were to look into this further, you would come to surmise that Jim Morrison's father is an important part of the story, too. Sources: THE LORDS AND THE NEW CREATURES by JIM MORRISON VARIOUS BIOGRAPHIES BOOKS about JIM MORRISON and THE DOORS, including INTERVIEWS. An example of Jim Morrsion lyrics: NOT TO TOUCH THE EARTH Not to touch the earth, not to see the sun Nothing left to do but run, run, run Let's run Let's run House upon the hill, moon is lying still Shadows of the trees witnessing the wild breeze Come on, baby, run with me Let's run Run with me Run with me Run with me, let's run The mansion is warm at the top of the hill Rich are the rooms and the comforts there Red are the arms of luxuriant chairs And you won't know a thing till you get inside Dead president's corpse in the driver's car The engine runs on glue and tar Come on along, not going very far To the East, to meet the Czar Run with me Run with me Run with me, let's run Some outlaws live by the side of a lake The minister's daughter's in love with the snake Who lives in a well by the side of the road Wake up, girl! We're almost home Sun, sun, sun Burn, burn, burn Moon, moon, moon I will get you Soon... Soon... Soon! I AM THE LIZARD KING; I CAN DO ANYTHING. Any more information on this subject would be much appreciated. Contact us here. David Icke We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reptiles Rule the World Theory of David Icke
-Caveat Lector- Where and when did he say this? Steve On 5 Nov 99, at 14:41, JAH Publications wrote: Dear Eagle 1, It is very hard to take David Icke seriously, after he claimed on television, and I saw him do it personally, to be Christ and that his wife was the incarnation of the Archangel Michael. Anyone who really understands the Scriptures as Christ does because Christ is the Word (Scriptures) made flesh, would not make such a ridiculous statement about his wife, or about Christ, because Christ and the Archangel Michael are one and the same person. Christ is a title and not a name. Christ's (the Spiritual Being that inhabited the body called Jesus) real name is Prince Michael the Archangel. So, I have difficulty taking anything David Icke says too seriously, Peace be upon you, JAH. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Maxygen Announces $6.7 Million Grant from DARPA to DevelopAerosolized Vaccines
-Caveat Lector- Hilary, This was from the Maxygen company website, under "1999 Press Releases". Regards, Steve http://www.maxygen.com/webpage_templates/secondary.php3?page_name=1999_pr On 5 Nov 99, at 9:52, Hilary A. Thomas wrote: Steve, Where did you get this announcement from - the source? Hilary Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
