Re: [CTRL] What a Mid-East War Would Mean to the U.S.
-Caveat Lector- JC wrote: But did you notice, that once the gas prices had doubled and redoubled...suddenly there was no more "shortage". Once the price had risen to where they wanted it, then there was plenty of gas. Hey! Do you think it was a conspiracy? Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Space... The ultimate weapon. A hard rain is gonnafall.
-Caveat Lector- Nurev Ind Research wrote: Kelly wrote: Nurev wrote: SPACE MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE MILITARIZED!!! BY ANYONE!!! Holy smokes! Do you really think it not already is? Kelly Yes it is. But it's not effective. That is to say, that it can't really blow up the stuff on the ground and more importantly in the air that the Pentagon might want. Star Wars is what will make that possible. That is why the New World Order types in the USA and SOME other places want to see it happen, and why EVERYBODY else will try to prevent it. Imagine that you live in New York, and the Russians have satellite weapons which could easily target NY for damage or destruction because the USA is not behaving the way the Russians might want it to.. Would YOU allow the US government to permit the Russians to control such technology? Well this is how the rest of the world sees the U.S.. They know that the only country to have used nuclear weapons to expand it's empire would not hesitate to use space based weapons on the civilian populations of the world should they be foolish enough to disobey America. For this reason, it is logical to assume that we ordinary Americans will become targets of terrorism from abroad as other nations try to stop our military and political elites from enslaving the world. THIS IS WHAT THE MISSILE DEFENSE INITIATIVE IS REALLY ABOUT. It is the development stage for the ultimate weapons system of the New World Order. Not to mention a guaranteed economic boom for High Tech and weapons corporations. To protect ourselves, AND everyone else, it behooves us as Americans to PREVENT the militarization of space by ANYBODY. Especially the United States. You bring up many good points J2 - but I think you overestimate the strength of the US. The world is a big place and the US is not the centre of it - believe it or not. Like - sorry I forget the name of the woman who is related to every name-dropping gene since the initial fucking of Adam and Eve, Ambeboa or Saba, anyway - as she is putting together her puzzle of little names and obscure places and dried events, the globe spins on and - and suddenly it is time for a refreshing look at the people who will always ensure that life is worth living. Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Bessie Smith
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/6/01 6:46:39 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Her driver was reported in the black press to be urned away from a white hospital in Mississippi but biographer Chris Albertson says she was not turned away but was DOA. The driver was reported as being turned away but Bessie was not - she was DOA? Then isn't it logical to infer that if she had not been dead she would also have been turned away? Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WIRED: Dad Gets Net Visitation Rights
-Caveat Lector- Dad Gets Net Visitation Rights For entire article: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,41033,00.html?tw=wn20010106 In what appears to be the first ruling of its kind, a state appeals court in New Jersey says a divorced woman can move with her daughter to California and have the Internet help the girl keep in touch with her dad. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Lawyer: INS ordered Elián files destroyed Ft. lauderdale Sun-Sentinel By DAVID CÁZARES Web-posted: 11:33 p.m. Jan. 5, 2001 Miami employees of the Immigration and Naturalization Service were ordered to destroy or conceal documents and electronic mail related to the Elián González case, according to a deposition by an attorney who represents INS workers. In a deposition given last month for the federal lawsuit that Elián's Miami relatives have filed against the U.S. government, Coral Springs attorney Donald Appignani testified that INS employees had told him that "the U.S. government could be breaking the law." "Basically, that is what I heard," Appignani testified. "People were instructed to remove anything derogatory to the Elián González case." Appignani, a labor lawyer who represents the union that bargains for INS employees and also handles the employees' equal employment complaints against the government, would not reveal which employees told him of the orders, who gave the instructions, or what information the documents and e-mail contained. He said he did not hear the orders directly; they were related to him by employees. At the urging of his clients, Appignani in November approached lawyer Ronald Guralnick with the information. Guralnick represents the family of Lázaro González, the great-uncle who tried to keep the boy here and is now suing the federal government and Miami police, claiming the April 22 raid that removed the boy violated the family's constitutional rights. Guralnick deems the information so valuable that he has asked U.S. District Judge Federico Moreno to order Appignani to disclose all he knows. "This is a major break in the case," Guralnick said. "I'm looking forward to the court's ruling on our motion to compel attorney Appignani to testify to the questions he refused to answer at deposition, and I'm looking forward to talking to his clients." Aloyma M. Sanchez, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office, said it would support Guralnick's motion to compel Appignani to provide more detail. "These are serious allegations," Sanchez said. "We want to uncover the truth." Appignani also testified that INS employees thought there was an atmosphere of contempt toward Cuban-Americans at the INS regional office in Miami, which could prove detrimental to the government if brought out at trial before a jury. He said he saw a cup circulated at INS offices with a plastic wrapper imprinted with a Cuban flag inside a circle with a red line drawn through it. On the other side was an image of a stopwatch with the number 154 inside -- for the 154 seconds it took agents to remove Elián from his Miami relatives' home. Appignani also confirmed he had told Guralnick that, after the raid, INS Regional Director Robert Wallis told about 50 INS employees that "it was the happiest day of his life when he saw a photograph of a person on the ground with a gun pointed at his head, because before the negotiations (between the Justice Department and the relatives' lawyers) this person wouldn't shake his hand." Appignani said he did not hear Wallis say this but was told he had. Wallis could not be reached for comment Friday. Under questioning from Justice Department Attorney Nina Pelletier, Appignani said he did not go to the authorities after employees told him they thought laws had been broken but went to Guralnick because that's what his clients had asked him to do. In court documents, Appignani said he should not have to reveal who his clients are because they fear reprisal by their employers, the INS and the Justice Department. "I don't really know if anything illegal was done or not, but it's not my position to figure that out," he said. "The reason they didn't go to the authorities is because the authorities are the employer and the defendant in the case." It's uncertain how much the INS employees' complaints will play in the trial because unless Guralnick and his investigators can prove that INS officials ordered the destruction of evidence, it would be difficult to allege a crime. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
[CTRL] CNN's Lupus Blister reports on the transition
-Caveat Lector- Lupus Blister loved the freedom of his new assignment. He was no longer anchored to Washington; he could now fly to faraway exotic places and interview the most interesting newsmakers of the day. Lupus had come down to Texas to cover the transition and feel the excitement of a new Administration in the making. He agreed with many observers that diversity was the order of the day: for example, the Metropolitan Abdullah Ishihara was the first Japanese- Arab to be included in a Russian cabinet. On the other hand, Lupus agreed with the opposition who were griping about the same tired old faces, like Jimmy Bob Ewing who was taking over the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. But the worst problem with the Imperial Cabinet, as far as Lupus could see, was nepotism and cronyism. The Czar had appointed his own daughter, Her Imperial Highness, the Princess Fyodora Nikolayevna, as Minister for Sport. The Czarina's shopping partner Umm Yahya wound up as Minister of Women's Affairs. Lupus Blister: "Good evening. Tonight I am reporting from Mosquitoes, Texas, where I am covering the transition to the new Imperial Government of Russia. We were not granted an interview with His Imperial Majesty Nicholas III at the Catholic Protest compound on the flimsy excuse that CNN could not provide a Thessalian interpreter on such a short notice. In any case, we have with us two experts on Catholic Protest and on the self-proclaimed Czar of All the Russias. I am pleased to introduce to you Rabbi Eric Atlas of Congregation B'nai Tubal-Cain in west Mosquitoes and Captain Zulfikar "Zodiac" Zolkoski of the Mosquitoes Police Department (MPD), who is also a recognized expert on Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD). Rabbi Atlas, what do you make of the new Imperial Cabinet?" Rabbi Atlas: "Thank you, Lupus, for the opportunity to expose this abomination to your great audience. I would say that the main moving force behind these machinations is Kansan1225, who has, of course, found himself the Prime Minister of this new Government. Kansan, you may say, is the Rasputin of this new Czar. He deals in faulty logic and faulty theology. In his new book, "Al-Kitab al-Thalith al-Kansan al-Riyadhi", that is "The Third Book of Kansan from Riyadh", he makes the claim that he is the New Messenger of Jesus, the Son of God. This statement, of course, is an outright blasphemy in Judaism and Islam. Christians, too, should be outraged at the book's presumptuous sub-title, "Acts of Kansan1225". Lupus Blister: "Rabbi, I am impressed by your Arabic pronunciation." Rabbi Atlas: "We at the Mossad, uh, I mean the ADL, have the utmost respect for our Arab cousins and their donkeys. We do learn Arabic; after all, Hebrew and Arabic are very close." Captain "Zodiac": "Kansan likes to use a sprinkling of faux Arabique in his pronouncements to impart an air of cosmopolitanism to them. However, in his sordid life he has mostly associated with the lowest forms of life known to humanity, anti- Semites, anti-fluoridation activists, and Mary Kay distributors." Lupus Blister: "Captain, tell us, what do Law Enforcements Organizations (LEO) have on the self-proclaimed Czar?" Captain "Zodiac": "This fraud, this Thessalian adventurer, Nikolaos Kafetzis, or Kafetzopoulos, has had a very checkered career. In Moscow he was known as Tovarich Nikolai Alexandrovich Kafeyev. In Istanbul he passed as Kahveji Efendi. His Saudi identity card listed him as al-Doktor Niqoulas bin Iskender al-Kahwaji. My Saudi LEO liaison, Inspector Farouq Al- Qaseemi (FAQ), reports that Dr. K's first house in Riyadh was a block away from the Office of the American Program Manager for the Saudi National Guard. It seems that Dr. K was casing the place out and then he moved. Then, on November 13, 1995, a car bomb demolished that Office, killing some five Americans. LEO suspect that Dr. K had persuaded Osama Bin Laden to stage that attack on the 13th day of November to make it seem like a Masonic-inspired conspiracy. "Then, on June 25, 1996, a truck bomb in Al-Khobar demolished a housing structure at the base there, killing some nineteen Americans. Again, you see, June 25 is 6/25, and 6 + 2 + 5 = 13, another Kansan-provided "Masonic" hoofprint. FAQ reports that as Saudi investigators were closing in on Dr. K, he left Saudi Arabia suddenly in July 1998 to surface in Texas." Lupus Blister: "What kind of an appeal do Kansan's conspiracy theories have?" Captain "Zodiac": "His appeal is very, very limited. His fans tend to be the left-wing readers of the magazine "The Nation", the right-wing wackos who read "The Spotlight", and German revanchists like Heidi Klum." Rabbi Atlas: "If we believe Kansan, the pillars of our society are all clandestine Luciferian Masons (CLuMs): George W. Bush a CLuM, Al Gore a CLuM, Pat Robertson a CLuM, Yasser Arafat a CLuM, Ehud Barak a CLuM, Pope
Re: [CTRL] Wassup with the list
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Re: [CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/6/01 6:24:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Name this country: 709,000 regular (active duty) service personnel; 293,000 reserve troops; Well, don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this global superpower because this country no longer exists. It has vanished. These are the American military forces that have disappeared since the 1992 election of Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Sleep well, America. [snip] http://afr.com/world/uspolicy.html exerpt Under President George H. Bush, the current Republican candidate's father, defense spending was cut by 25 percent, with these cuts taking effect during the Clinton administration. Last year, however, Clinton approved a US$112 billion increase in defence spending over the next five years. -- http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/24/pentagon.budget/ exerpt Last year, the administration proposal was $267 billion. Congress added almost $5 billion to that to bring the total to $272.4 billion for fiscal year 2000, for a total increase of $9.8 billion, or 3.75 percent. This did not include supplemental appropriations to cover the cost of operations in Bosnia and Kosovo. This year's proposed $291 billion is an increase of 6.83 percent. The last time the Pentagon received so large an increase in its budget was in 1983, when the defense budget went up 7.4 percent to $239 billion. In 1999 inflation-adjusted dollars that would be equal to $383 billion. -- Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Legal Weaponry Limit
-Caveat Lector- Is there a limit to the number of weapons one can possess? What about particle beam weapons? Scalar weapons? ??? I am not kidding. Is there any law regarding advanced weapons, especially scalar weapons? If not well then...? Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
-Caveat Lector- From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I guess you don't buy the story that the song is based on a drawing done by Lennon's then 5-year-old son, Julian? Go ahead and call me nit-picky, but.. the math doesn't add up. Julian was born April 8, 1963, the song was released on the Sergeant Pepper album June 1, 1967. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] YalePress: Strobe Talbott to Head New Globalization Initiative
-Caveat Lector- http://www.yale.edu/development/yaletoday/vol4_no2/talbott.html Strobe Talbott to Head New Globalization Initiative In a move to strengthen its standing as an international leader for higher education, Yale has announced that Strobe Talbott '68, Deputy Secretary of State and a key architect of U.S. foreign policy, will direct the new Yale Center for the Study of Globalization. The University will also create a new fellowship program for emerging leaders of other countries, plus three new chairs in international studies. Talbott, a former trustee of the University, will begin work in July 2001 as director of the new Center and as professor of international relations. "I'm coming home to a community that has always upheld the highest intellectual standards while actively engaging in the affairs of the world," said Talbott. "That tradition makes Yale a natural leader in the quest to understand, explain, and shape the forces that are changing our lives and defining our era." Promoting Global Scholarship The Center for the Study of Globalization will encourage research, writing, and teaching on globalization, drawing on Yale faculty and visiting scholars and practitioners of international affairs. The Center will also engage in "Track II diplomacy," privately sponsored efforts to promote dialogue between opposing sides in crises and disputes. The new program is funded in part by the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation. The Center for the Study of Globalization, as well as the fellowship program, will be housed in Yale's newly renovated Davies Mansion. Innovate Program for Leaders To extend Yale's mission of educating leaders, the World Fellows Program will engage promising young leaders from around the world in a semester of study focused on global problems. Participants will come from government, law, and business, as well as academe, religious bodies, and non-governmental organizations. The executive director of the program will be Brooke Shearer, currently conducting international programs for the U.S. National Park Service. Daniel C. Esty, Deputy Dean of the School of Forestry Environmental Studies, will be faculty supervisor. Interdisciplinary Perspectives To support Yale's expanded commitment to international students and programs, President Richard C. Levin announced three new senior professorships in international studies. Yale already has established the first; Levin will seek donor support to endow the remaining two. The University allocated the positions to the Yale Center for International and Area Studies, which will seek scholars whose interests span at least two of Yale¹s academic departments or professional schools. "The solutions to many of our most important global problems require knowledge that spans two or more disciplines, yet academic departments tend to favor specialists," Levin said. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush Will Review Clinton's Last-Minute Avalanche of Regulations
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Bush Will Review Clinton's Last-Minute Avalanche of Regulations NewsMax.com Wires Saturday, Jan. 6, 2001 WASHINGTON (UPI) â Republicans complain that President Clinton is scrambling to issue last-minute orders to tie the hands of the incoming Republican administration. But President-elect Bush plans to review the avalanche of regulations. Ari Fleischer, spokesman for President-elect Bush, said Friday that the Bush transition team is keeping track of Clinton's initiatives. He promised that Bush would review them and take any corrective action deemed necessary after he is sworn in Jan. 20. Fleischer avoided criticizing Clinton. "It is the president's prerogative to do as he sees fit. We will not comment on the many activities he is pursuing and pursuing aggressively." Still, Fleischer observed, "He has been a busy beaver." The Clinton administration has issued major rules and orders since the election, including: Friday's announcement limiting timber harvests in millions of acres of federal forests. A rule from the Department of Housing and Urban Development requiring that government housing be integrated by race and income. An Environmental Protection Agency rule mandating the use of cleaner diesel gasoline that the oil industry says it cannot produce. A major new regulation requiring employers to take steps to protect workers from repetitive motion injuries. Clinton also snubbed Republicans by signing a controversial treaty to establish an international war crimes tribunal. According to regulatory experts, it is not unusual for a lame-duck administration to issue a large batch of rules and orders between the election and the transfer of power, particularly when the transition is from one party to the other. George Mason University's Mercatus Center conducted a study of so-called midnight regulations since the Truman administration, and has found that Clinton, while not inventing the practice, may set a record. 29,000 Pages of Rules in a Few Weeks According to researcher Jay Cochran, the outgoing Carter administration, preparing for the incoming Reagan administration, printed in the Federal Register 24,500 pages of new regulations between the election and the inauguration. The Clinton administration is on pace to publish more than 29,000 pages, Cochran said, covering "hundreds of rules." Some of the rules are major policy decisions that attract a great deal of attention and generate the public opposition of major interest groups. But others are relatively minor bureaucratic decisions that can have significant long-term implications. For example, over the Christmas season, Clinton announced more than $1 billion in federal grants for state homeless assistance programs. According to housing experts, the grants are part of HUD's annual announcement of billions of dollars of federal money that is available for grants. The announcement â known as the "super-NOFA," or "notice of funding availability" â does not determine who will receive the money, but it commits the government to giving it away. HUD spokesman Lee Jones said the other pieces of the super-NOFA are traditionally released "in late January or early February" and that if the Clinton administration issues it, the Bush team "can always pull it back." But he emphasized that it was a bureaucratic rulemaking that distributes money already budgeted by Congress, and that it did not traditionally require any decisions by senior political appointees. One transition official who asked not to be named told UPI that the late flurry of Clinton rules did not stop the Bush administration from implementing its agenda, but "it is a nuisance." This source said, "There are some things that once you do them it can be problematic to undo them." But this official added that once the Bush team takes office, there are mechanisms it can use to overturn almost any decision the Clinton administration has made. The job for the incoming Bush administration, this official said, will be to separate those rules that can be reversed easily from those that will create major legal or political headaches, and then choosing which battles are worth fighting. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many
[CTRL] AP: Nixon-Rumsfeld Tape Raises Questions
-Caveat Lector- Nixon-Rumsfeld Tape Raises Questions Nixon Mocked Blacks In 1971 Conversation The Associated Press AUSTIN, Texas, 8:24 p.m. EST January 6, 2001 -- President-elect Bush's team said Saturday that Defense-Secretary nominee Donald Rumsfeld never agreed with pejorative comments Richard Nixon made 29 years ago about blacks in a conversation preserved on tape at the National Archives. On the tape, Rumsfeld can be heard making several acknowledgments, such as "yes" and "that's right" as Nixon rambled on during a conversation about African and American blacks. The conversation was reported in Sunday editions of the Chicago Tribune. Bush transition spokesman Ari Fleischer said Saturday that Rumsfeld did not agree with any of Nixon's pejorative comments then and does not now. Even a casual listen to the hourlong tape demonstrates that Rumsfeld's voice changes and tightens once Nixon starts speaking in such a vein, Fleischer said. Until then, Rumsfeld had been "talkative and expressive," Fleischer said. He said he had talked to Rumsfeld about the article and that his recollection was that he was not agreeing with Nixon's comments. Nixon even feigns a phony Southern accent on the tape when he starts talking about blacks, the spokesman said. Fleischer said Rumsfeld had not intended to convey agreement with the characterizations of blacks made in the Nixon conversation but merely acknowledged them. Rumsfeld spokesman Jim Wilkinson was quoted by the newspaper as saying the Cabinet nominee is "proud of his long record of support for civil rights." On the tape of a July 22, 1971, conversation with Rumsfeld, a counselor to the president, Nixon criticized his vice president, Spiro Agnew, for his conduct and comments on a recent trip to Africa. The newspaper cited what it said were Agnew's unflattering comparisons between African and American blacks, and remarks that African blacks were smarter. "It doesn't help," Nixon said on tape, according to the Tribune. "It hurts with the blacks. And it doesn't help with the rednecks because the rednecks don't think any Negroes are any good." "Yes," Rumsfeld replied. As for the notion that "black Americans aren't as good as black Africans," Nixon said, "most of them are basically just out of the trees. ... Now, my point is, if we say that, they (opponents) say, 'Well, by God.' Well, ah, even the Southerners say, 'Well, our niggers is (unintelligible).' Hell, that's the way they talk!'" the president said on the tape. "That's right," Rumsfeld said. "I can hear 'em," Nixon said. "I know," Rumsfeld replied. "It's like when our black athletes, I mean in the Olympics, are running against the other black athletes, the Southerner may not like the black but he's for that black athlete," Nixon said. "That's right," Rumsfeld said. "Right?" Nixon asked. "That's for sure," Rumsfeld said. "Well, enough of that," Nixon said. Copyright 2000 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Has America lost its Goodness?
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Has America lost its Goodness? By Chuck Baldwin January 5, 2001 The famed French philosopher, Alexis DeTocqueville, is reported to have said, "America is great because America is good; if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great." It appears that America may have lost its goodness; if so, can the loss of greatness be far behind? Consider the fact that America has now eclipsed the number of innocent people murdered by Hitler's Nazi regime. More than 35 million innocent, unborn children have been legally butchered in this country since 1973. If the abortion rate stays about the same (and there is no reason to believe that it will decline significantly any time soon) we will match Stalin's astonishing number of murdered victims within the next two or three decades. Consider the fact that sexual perversion now enjoys not only legal protection, but also societal favor. Homosexual themes inundate movies and television. Municipalities routinely pass laws favoring the sodomite lifestyle and public school classrooms promote homosexuality as normal and healthy, the laws of nature and health statistics to the contrary notwithstanding. Governmental entities (including the military) must treat sodomy as a favored activity, and anyone who believes it to be sinful or immoral is treated as a criminal. One Army officer who recently chose to leave the service said, "When I entered the military, homosexuality was illegal. Now it is not only legal - it is promoted. I want to get out before it is required." Then there is this alarming report from the New York Times: according to a recent study by the Urban Institute (financed by the federal government), "many teenage boys are engaging in sexual activities that include oral and anal sex." The report is from the National Survey of Adolescent Males and is found in the latest edition of Family Planning Perspectives, a publication of the Alan Guttmacher Institute. According to the Times, "The survey of adolescent boys was based on in-person interviews with 1,297 nationally representative males ages 15 to 19 in 1995. According to the findings, more than 1 in 10 boys had engaged in anal intercourse, half had received oral sex from a girl, and slightly more than a third had performed oral sex on a girl." These figures are explosively higher than just a decade ago. The report goes on to say: "Many adolescents . consider oral sex to be a precursor or substitute for intercourse and something that does not count as 'sex.'" Now, I wonder where they got that idea? Yet, should these findings really surprise us? After all, movies and television increasingly promote promiscuous sexual activity. In the name of diversity, government schools teach America's children to be tolerant of sexual perversion. And, sadly, even many churches are unwilling to call sin by its first name. In short, America has lost its goodness. America will not be saved by talk of lower taxes, health care and Social Security reform. America is dying for want of morality! The cultural acceptance of abortion-on-demand and sexual perversity is eating the life out of our nation like a cancer. I wonder what DeTocqueville would say about America today? *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
[CTRL] Grass Roots to Senate: Confirm Ashcroft as Attorney General
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Grass Roots to Senate: Confirm Ashcroft as Attorney General Wes Vernon Saturday, Jan. 6, 2001 WASHINGTON â More than 100 grassroots organizations representing a wide variety of interests are urging the U.S. Senate to confirm President-elect Bushâs choice of John Ashcroft for attorney general. The groups from all over the country represent constitutional and civil liberties concerns, as well as such issues as victims' rights, civil rights, military readiness, tax reform, pro-life campaigns, business concerns, and womenâs and family-related causes. Many of the groups are local and state-based. A few are prominent national organizations. Among the latter are the National Taxpayers Union, the Family Research Council, the Independent Womenâs Forum, Eagle Forum, and the U.S. Business and Industry Council. John Nowacki, deputy director of the Free Congress Foundationâs Center for Law and Democracy, notes the "broad base of support" reflected in this list. "This is a sharp contrast with the narrow special interests represented by the few leftist organizations that have come out against [Ashcroft]," Nowacki declared. Meanwhile, there were reports Friday that some Democrats in Congress were calling for Missouri Supreme Court Justice Ronnie White to testify against Ashcroft. A spokeswoman for the Missouri Supreme Court told the AP White would testify if subpoenaed. As a senator, Ashcroft led the successful fight to deny a federal judgeship to White. President Clinton then accused the Senate of racial motives in denying the nomination to White, who is black. Ashcroft has repeatedly said his main reason for opposing the jurist from his home state was Whiteâs lenient attitude in some high-profile death penalty cases. The Democratic move to call White to testify comes just two days after Landmark Legal Foundation President Mark R. Levin called on Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, to call in the relatives of the victims of a killer of four people whose conviction White had voted to overturn and send back for a retrial. The convicted killer was white. Actually, it is not even certain that Hatch will chair the early hearings on Ashcroft because he does not regain his chairmanship of the committee until Jan. 20. During the few days until then, the Democrats control the Senate because Vice President Al Gore is able to break the 50-50 tie. On Jan. 20, the tie-breaker is Dick Cheney, and the GOP is back in the saddle. If the Ashcroft hearings begin under Democratic rule, Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., will likely preside. NewsMax.com put in a call to the Senate committee office to determine whether there are plans to call the victimsâ families to testify. At deadline, there was no response. NewsMax.com has been getting angry calls from readers inquiring about what they can do to counter the left-wing extremist attacks on Ashcroft. One way to reach the Senate is on the Web. It is also important to phone the senators from your state. The Capitol Hill switchboard number is 1-202-224-3121. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The GW Bush Gang -IG Farben 2001
http://www.sightings.com/general6/farben.htm The GW Bush Gang - IG Farben 2001 By Robert Lederman 1-6-01 "What my cabinet shows is that I am not afraid to surround myself with strong and competent people...a good executive is one that understands how to recruit people and how to delegate authority and responsibility."-GW Bush 1/2/2001 As promised GW Bush has recruited competent and experienced advisors. Despite their seeming diversity however they have a common denominator. The America they reflect is the oil, pharmaceutical, armament, Wall Street and eugenics interests long associated with the Bush family. Seventy years ago a similar configuration of oil, pharmaceutical, chemical, military supply and eugenics interests were organized by Wall Street into IG Farben/Standard Oil-Hitler's industrial powerhouse. To grasp the real significance of what GW Bush's cabinet has been brought together to accomplish it is essential to understand the history of IG Farben, its relationship with American corporations and how together they applied modern technology to the task of eugenics or scientific racism. According to former US Justice Dept. Nazi War Crimes prosecutor John Loftus-who is today the director of the Florida Holocaust Museum-"The Bush family fortune came from the Third Reich,"-Sarasota Herald-Tribune 11/11/2000 http://www.newscoast.com/headlinesstory2.cfm?ID=35115 Along with the Rockefellers (Standard Oil, Chase Manhattan Bank), Mellons (Gulf Oil, Alcoa Aluminum), DuPonts (DuPont Chemicals), General Motors and Henry Ford, banks and shipping companies operated by the Bush family were crucial players in setting up the industrial power behind the Third Reich. These companies poured hundreds of millions of dollars into IG Farben and provided it with technology for tactically-essential synthetic materials-while withholding the same materials and patents from the US government. The Rockefeller family, long aligned with the Bushes, owned Standard Oil. Through a stock transfer they became half owners of Germany's IG Farben with Farben likewise owning almost half of Standard Oil. According to the Encyclopedia Brittanica, IG Farben built and operated more than 40 concentration camps in Nazi-occupied Europe, including Auschwitz. At their slave labor/factory/death camps chemicals, weapons, drugs, synthetic fuels and other materials vital to the Nazi war effort were manufactured. In addition, eugenicists like Dr. Josef Mengele used the human subjects in the camps for experiments the data from which are today the basis for many drugs marketed by the pharmaceutical industry-not too surprising in light of the fact that more Americans die from prescription drugs than from any other single cause. At the end of WWII the allies split up IG Farben into companies that are now the top pharmaceutical concerns on earth among them Bayer, Hoescht, BASF, the Agfa-Gevaert Group and Cassella AG. Many of Wall Streets favorite pharmaceutical/chemical companies behind the proliferation of genetically-altered foods, transgenic animals, human cloning, dangerous psychiatric drugs, deadly vaccines and pesticides-such as Aventis-are subsidiaries of these same companies. War provides the necessary medium in which this witches brew of oil, eugenics, pharmaceuticals, munitions and Wall Street investing can reach maximum growth. Likewise, war is also the essential frame of reference for the newly formed GW Bush administration. The high-profile minorities who are working as Bush advisors have been hand-picked, funded and carefully cultivated by right wing think tanks and conservative foundations with a white supremacist philosophy in order to provide cover for their anti-poor, anti-minority eugenics agenda. For those who scoff at the validity of comparing the Bush administration to the Nazis and IG Farben please note the following. I'm not suggesting that GW Bush is a literal Nazi nor am I implying that everyone who is an oil or pharmaceutical company executive automatically deserves to be linked to IG Farben. That the Bush wealth and prominence in American politics is derived from Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker's support of Hitler is a historical fact. If the connection ended in 1945 with the destruction of Nazi Germany that might have been the end of it-it didn't end there however. Not only has the eugenics agenda continued but many of the top Nazis who were advancing it during WWII were brought to the US after the war and installed in academia, the media, government research institutions and the CIA-by the same American officials who worked with the Bush family to build up Nazi Germany in the first place. Their ideas formed the basis for much of the agenda promoted by this nation's most influential right-wing think tanks-the same think tanks that are the sponsors of GW Bush and virtually every one of his appointees. Why is it significant that many of Bush's staff and cabinet appointees are former
[CTRL] China Revelations
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! SECRET documents smuggled out of China have revealed the innermost conflicts of the Communist party at the time of the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. They confirm that the Chinese leaders feared they would be overthrown by their own people in a mass movement for democracy. "Anarchy gets worse every day," said the late leader Deng Xiaoping, quoted in a memorandum of a top-level meeting on May 13 that year. "If this continues, we could even end up under house arrest." The appearance of such documents is bound to embarrass Beijing, not least because President Jiang Zemin emerges from the papers as a man whose ambition for power led him to endorse the killing of civilians. They show how Jiang was hustled into the post of general secretary by frightened old men who broke the party's own procedural rules in the rush to get their own candidate into office. Jiang's role is certain to be widely discussed as the contents of the papers leak into China this weekend through websites and e-mail messages. The former premier, Li Peng, reviled by pro-democracy activists for his dominant role in the crackdown, is depicted as a strong advocate of force who called the students' demand for free elections "nonsense". But the most significant historical aspect of the documents is the fact that they have come to light at all. The hoard includes politburo minutes, memorandums of meetings between Deng and his aides, intelligence reports, military files and records of telephone calls. For western observers and many ordinary Chinese, the material offers what one scholar called a glimpse of "the dark side of the moon". The material is said to have been brought out of China by an anonymous party official from a faction in Beijing trying to promote political reform. The official handed the Chinese-language texts to two American sinologists, Andrew Nathan, of Columbia University, and Perry Link, of Princeton. Their translation and assessment will appear as a book called The Tiananmen Papers. The two were intitially sceptical about the authenticity of the documents, but extensive conversations with the official and further research convinced them that they were genuine. James Lilley, the American ambassador to Beijing at the time of the killings, has also said he believes the documents are authentic. A picture emerges from the documents of two cliques ruling over a billion Chinese subjects in 1989. One was made up of bloodstained old revolutionaries who had captured power by civil war and were terrified of losing it. Their feelings were summed up by Wang Zhen, a party elder, who said of the young people in the square: "These people are really asking for it . . . Give them no mercy". The other clique comprised the party's junior leaders, rivals for an inheritance that might have taken China towards political reform. Their most powerful member was Li Peng, who played on the fears of the old men that the mob rule they had unleashed against their enemies so many times could now devour them. Deng: feared popular coup One memo records Li meeting Deng on May 17, 1989, and warning him: "The spear is now pointed at you and the others of the older generation of proletarian revolutionaries." The loser was Zhao Ziyang, the party secretary, who argued for dialogue with the students and opposed the military assault on them. Purged by Deng just before the massacre, Zhao is still alive and in Beijing. Said to be in poor health, he has been under house arrest for more than a decade. It is no coincidence that the papers have been smuggled out of China before major leadership changes due to take place after 2002, when Jiang steps down from his formal posts.They also raise the question that Jiang and his followers loathe more than any other: why did Chinese history reach a turning point in 1989, but then fail to turn? Since crushing the democracy movement, Jiang has presided over economic growth and political stagnation, an expansion of many individual freedoms alongside political repression. The party's grip on power remains absolute. The documents show Deng, who died in 1997, expressing the imperial attitude of China's modern rulers towards the masses they claim to represent - and the communists' limited understanding of "reform". "We can't be led around by the nose," he said. "We can't allow people to demonstrate whenever they want. If people demonstrate 365 days a year and don't want to do anything else, reform and opening will get nowhere." *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL
[CTRL] Wall Street Journal Calls for Clinton's Indictment
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Friday, Jan. 5, 2001 11:15 a.m. EST Wall Street Journal Calls for Clinton's Indictment The nation's most influential business daily became the first newspaper in the country on Friday to call for the indictment of the president of the United States, in a stinging editorial that argued he had given prosecutors no other choice. "[President Clinton] is manifestly guilty of perjury in his Paula Jones testimony, but even today clings to the 'what the meaning of the word is, is' defense," said the Wall Street Journal about the president's effort to cover up the scandal that ultimately led to his impeachment. Citing Clinton's claim in December's Esquire magazine that his congressional impeachers owe both him and the nation an apology, the Journal outlined independent counsel Robert Ray's dilemma: "If [Ray] decides to give the president a pass in terms of a larger public interest, the president will surely claim his preposterous defense was vindicated, that he was the victim. ... History's burden on Mr. Ray is that a decision not to indict serves the Clinton revisionism." The paper also revisited the pronouncements of several leading Senate Democrats two years ago, who argued that Clinton should not be removed from office because he could be prosecuted after his term expired. "His conduct should not be excused, nor will it. The president can be criminally prosecuted, especially once he leaves office," proclaimed Wisconsin's Herb Kohl. "As the Constitution clearly says, [Clinton] remains subject to the laws of the land, just like any other citizen of the United States," echoed California's Barbara Boxer. "Whether any of his conduct constitutes a criminal offense such as perjury and obstruction of justice is not for me to decide," announced conscience of the Senate Joe Lieberman. "That, appropriately, should and must be left to the criminal justice system, which will uphold the rule of law in President Clinton's case as it would for any other American." The Journal might have also noted that in the absence of any indictment, Clinton and his wife are likely to sue for restitution of an estimated $10 million in legal fees - most of which were incurred because of the investigation by the Office of Independent Counsel. Such a claim would be legally valid under the now defunct independent counsel statute that currently governs Robert Ray's probe. For Ray to facilitate such a reward when laws have clearly been violated would turn the OIC's entire investigation into a national joke. And if the Clintons collect, what happens to the $8 million in legal defense fund donations they've raised over the last seven years? Don't bet on any refunds without further court action. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RELUCTANT RECRUITS: THE U.S. MILITARY AND THE WAR ON DRUGS
http://www.tni.org/drugs/folder2/contents.htm Executive Summary Despite the end of the Cold War and recent transitions toward more democratic societies in Latin America, the United States has launched a number of initiatives that strengthen the power of Latin American security forces, increase the resources available to them, and expand their role within society -- precisely when struggling civilian elected governments are striving to keep those forces in check. Rather than encourage Latin American militaries to limit their role to the defense of national borders, Washington has provided the training, resources and doctrinal justification for militaries to move into the business of building roads and schools, providing veterinary and child inoculation services, and protecting the environment. Of greatest concern, however, is U.S. encouragement and support for the region's armed forces -- including the U.S. military itself -- to play a significant role in domestic counternarcotics operatio! ns, a law enforcement function reserved in most democracies for civilian police. Among the vast array of U.S. government agencies involved in drug control efforts, the Department of Defense (DOD) is on the front line of the war on drugs in Latin America, a role mandated by the 1989 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). The act designated DOD as the "single lead agency" for the detection and monitoring of illicit drug shipments into the United States. Congress backed this directive with dollars, quadrupling DOD's counter-drug budget between Fiscal Year (FY)1988 and FY1992, when it peaked at $1.22 billion. Billions more have been spent since then. As the perceived threat of communism faded and eventually collapsed in the 1980s, the drug war replaced the Cold War as the military's central mission in the Western Hemisphere. Few in the military establishment, however, embraced the counternarcotics mission enthusiastically. While many regional commanders and their officers reluctantly complied with the Pentagon's directive to develop plans for carrying out the new mission, the Panama-based U.S. Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) eagerly took it on. For officials within SOUTHCOM, the drug war was an opportunity to apply the low-intensity-conflict skills honed during 30 years of fighting guerrilla insurgencies in Central America and the principal means of maintaining and enhancing relations with militaries throughout the region. Closer ties with Latin American military forces help to encourage "subordination to civilian authorities, defense transparency, peaceful resolution of disputes, and protection of human rights," according to Gen. Wesley K. Clark, until recently Commander in Chief of SOUTHCOM. 1 Testimony of Gen. Wesley K. Clark before the Senate Armed Services Committee, 11 March 1997. Primarily coordinated out of Panama, the U.S. military now undertakes a vast array of assistance, training, intelligence-gathering and surveillance activities aimed at reducing the flow of drugs into the United States. Passage of the 1989 NDAA coincided with President Bush's announcement of the Andean Initiative. Although U.S. military personnel had been involved in training and transporting foreign antinarcotics personnel outside the country since 1983, the Andean strategy opened the door to a dramatic expansion of this role, and to a significant infusion of U.S. assistance to police and military forces; the Andes quickly replaced Central American as the primary recipient of such assistance. While aid levels declined in the early 1990s, over the last 18 months the U.S. Congress and the Clinton administration have again dramatically escalated the provision of antinarcotics-related security assistance, primarily to the Andean region and Mexico. The Andean Initiative placed the spotlight on Colombia, Peru, and Bolivia, and the impact of the drug war in those countries generated vocal concern among human rights groups. The vast majority of DOD's spending in the early 1990s, however, went to support domestic law enforcement efforts, and to detection and monitoring operations in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico transit zones, employing state-of-the-art military surveillance at a staggering financial cost. Those efforts quickly came under fire, as a series of investigations by the General Accounting Office (GAO) found transit zone interdiction programs to be costly and ineffective. In late 1994, President Clinton shifted the emphasis of the U.S. counter-drug strategy in Latin America, after an extensive administration review concurred with the GAO. Through a Presidential Decision Directive, he moved the focus of interdiction efforts from the transit zone back to the so-called source countries, particularly the "air bridge" connecting coca growers and paste producers in Peru and Bolivia with cocaine refiners in Colombia. A year later, the architect of this strategy, Gen. Barry McCaffrey, former commander-in-chief of SOUTHCOM, was appointed "drug
[CTRL] CONGRESS ACTION: January 7, 2001
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! CONGRESS ACTION: January 7, 2001 = INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT: "When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans, it was assumed that the Americans who had that freedom would use it responsibly. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it." -- Bill Clinton. Note the egomaniacal "we wrote", and the freedom that he thinks was given to Americans -- in Clinton's world-view, given by government. And what government gives, government can take away. It was precisely to inhibit power hungry tyrants in government that the Founders of this country made clear that our rights and our freedom came from a source higher than government -- "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.". On December 31, Bill Clinton tried to relegate the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights into irrelevance, by directing the United States to become a signatory to the International Criminal Court. Never before has an American President demonstrated such a breathtaking contempt for the fundamental principles of individual liberty that form the foundation of this republic. Clinton's agreement to the ICC has been applauded by the usual globalists who think that global governance by unaccountable international bureaucrats is just great, and who think that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights pose intolerable burdens (except when used to obstruct the just punishment of some depraved criminal) to implementing their vision of a socialist utopia. How bad is this International Criminal Court? By our Constitution and Bill of Rights, Americans are guaranteed certain fundamental rights that the Founders of this country deemed important enough to fight a revolutionary war over. In the Declaration of Independence, the Founders detailed a "history of repeated injuries and usurpations" that justified the American revolution. Included in those "injuries and usurpations" were the following -- "He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation." "For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses." Clinton has agreed to abide by an International Criminal Court that subjects U.S. citizens to "a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution", a Court that is authorized to transport American citizens to foreign jurisdictions for criminal trials on "pretended offenses". In agreeing to the authority of the ICC, Clinton claimed that there is no risk to American citizens because the ICC "is authorized to take action against a suspect only if the country of nationality is unwilling or unable to investigate allegations.". Yet if some anti-American government makes a patently ludicrous charge against a U.S. citizen operating on some peacekeeping mission, for example, and the U.S. government refuses to prosecute those charges, the ICC may then, by Clinton's own admission, initiate prosecution. And the judges of the ICC themselves are the final arbiters of the extent and legitimacy of their own jurisdiction. In the American criminal justice system, public prosecutors are bound by an Ethical Canon stating that their "duty is to seek justice, not merely to convict." The ICC prosecutors are bound by no such limitation, which is symbolic of the pernicious potential of this entire undertaking. ".nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb.". -- Bill of Rights, Fifth Amendment. The ICC allows multiple retrials of acquittals, until a conviction is obtained. There is no right of appeal for a conviction outside of the ICC itself. "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, .to be confronted with the witnesses against him.". -- Bill of Rights, Sixth Amendment. The ICC does not require a public trial (secret trials are the norm for previous tribunals upon which the ICC was patterned); there is no right to a jury trial (guilt is decided solely by judges); and hearsay "evidence" from secret and unidentified witnesses is permitted. If Clinton wasn't leaving office in two weeks, this contempt for our Constitution would alone justify his impeachment and removal from office. The agreement to be bound by the ICC must be submitted to the Senate for ratification, but as with so many of his globalist schemes that he knows are unacceptable to a majority of Americans, Clinton has given no indication that he will submit the ICC to the Senate during his remaining tenure.
[CTRL] CONGRESS PUTS U.S. LAND UNDER U.N. CONTROL
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! CONGRESS PUTS U.S. LAND UNDER U.N. CONTROL WILLIAM F. JUD 31 DECEMBER 2000 3429 MADISON 423 (573) 783-8210 FREDERICKTOWN MO 63645 ONE PAGE CONGRESS PUTS U.S. LAND UNDER U.N. CONTROL In an outrageous display of legislative malpractice, on 18 October 2000, members of the United States Senate, anxious to get home to campaign for re-election, ratified a package of 34 treaties which included the U. N. Convention To Combat Desertification, or "Desertification Treaty," which effectively puts land use in much of United States under United Nations control for a minimum of four years and potentially forever, and also ratified the International Plant Protection Convention. Both treaties subject United States internal environmental policy to United Nations international control . The Desertification Treaty's stated objective is prevention of desertification. United Nations enforcers now have treaty power to stop and reverse any activity which they believe may move land closer to a desert condition. Examples of prohibited activity include converting forest land to pasture, or pasture to cropland, or cropland to industrial, commercial or urban uses. Land control applies to all land, whether publicly or privately owned. Enforcement of United Nations policies likely will be through the newly created International Criminal Court which claims self-granted authority to re-define its jurisdiction to include "environmental" crimes. The package of 34 treaties was ratified by a show of hands by Senators who were present. There is no recorded vote and no way, other than asking each Senator, to know who voted for or against. A quorum may not even have been present. The ratified Desertification Treaty, which President Clinton signed in 1994, was delivered to the United Nations by the Clinton Administration on November 17 and will go into effect on 15 February 2001, binding the United States to international law which claims power and authority to control use of 73% of the earth's rangeland and 47% of the earth's cropland. The United Nations seeks to control the remaining approximately 30% of the earth's land through the Convention On Biological Diversity. The United Nations Commission On Water For The 21st Century is working on a companion treaty to control use of the earth's water. The goal is creation of a United Nations bureaucracy to restrict and control through international law the use of all natural resources in compliance with United Nations Agenda 21 and principles of Sustainable Development. The Desertification treaty authorizes the United Nations to dictate world-wide land use policy. Implementing that policy is the job of individual member nations, not the United Nations directly. To comply with U.N. demands and policies, our federal and state governments, aided by environmental organizations, have pursued a vast expansion of land regulation and land acquisition, particularly during the eight years of the Clinton/Gore Administration. On a roll, treaty writers included additional, sweeping demands. There are requirements for approved school environmental curricula, and for massive and ongoing transfer of funds and technology from rich nations such as the United States to poor nations everywhere. Non-Governmental-Organizations (NGOs) such as the Sierra Club are guaranteed participation in setting international and domestic land use policies. Land owners are excluded from the process of making and implementing land use policy. Treaty ratification was done without parliamentary procedure, review, comment, debate, and recorded vote, which makes a mockery of the Constitutional process and puts American citizens increasingly under control of a United Nations bureaucracy whose Socialist member nations have a long track record of opposing United States interests. The slipshod, Unconstitutional way in which the Senate ratified the package of 34 treaties provides sufficient grounds for un-ratifying and voiding the Desertification and Plant Protection treaties, but only if an enraged citizenry rises up and demands redress from Congress. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are
Re: [CTRL] For Ms. Harper, 1/6/01
-Caveat Lector- Excuse me, Mr. Kansan, but Pat Robertson does not believe in the rebuilding of the temple. Any one with any real understanding of the Bible knows that the prophesy of the third temple refers to the body of Christ. All things prophetic became spiritual after Christ. Stop misleading people with your "secrets" that you have made up in your own mind. Kansan wrote: Similarly, people like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell are under the control of satanic Zionism to promote the greatest CLuM project of all, the re-building of Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem. From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Art Bell Back on Air Feb 5, 2001
-Caveat Lector- Well, I do Dale. I have had a problem in the past when this show was on in that I could not find it by scanning on my radio at night. Maybe others are middle-aged and not so adept at these things. I would like you to tell exactly how to locate him and the correct hours for Central Time Zone. Also, How does one listen to him via computer and the Internet? I only tried a few times but could not find this program. Which is better--radio or computer? It may be difficult for some of you young people to believe that this is a problem but it is for me being self-taught (trial error) on a computer. I am in the process of destroying my fourth computer now. :) There may well be others. I think this would be helpful as then we can listen and judge for ourselves. Thank you for any help in this regard. Amelia - Original Message - From: "Dale Mattice" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Art Bell Back on Air Feb 5, 2001 -Caveat Lector- I don't participate too often because I just like reading the information and comments on this list. But I can't be still when Art Bell is being attacked and insulted. This man has been through a terrible ordeal. It is people like you who helped drive him off the air in the first place. Now that he is back, he will be better than ever. There are 10 million listener's who hang on every word he says. I don't necessarily believe it all, but then neither does he. He provides an open forum for subjects (including the conspriracy theories promoted on this list) that main stream media only mock and make fun of. Perhaps if you people listen to Art Bell when he returns, you will learn something. Wanna take a ride? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] What a Mid-East War Would Mean to the U.S.
-Caveat Lector- Yes, Nankano, you are so right! We even had this scam pulled on us once with sugar of all things, if you will remember. With both major political parties knee-deep in oil, I guess any excuse will do, too. I am just weary of every war being so directly tied to oil! Solar rules! I have an 8 panel/wind combo unit that the local power company has all but forbidden me to use by requiring--get this--all sort so expensive switches to prevent back flow of power in the event that a line worker should be up the utility pole between my house and a transformer. Either that or buy a separate transformer for my house only. Could not the worker come to my house and request me to disconnect before working on the line and what would he be doing there unless I called or there was a problem, etc. Then they start with all the liability I incur if there IS a back surge, damaging their equipment. They just do not want me to do this. I have never seen a lineman anywhere in this area in three years. it is new and they do not want to deal with it. I still hope to some day get it operative. natural gas is the biggest rip off at present. This is a shameful ploy to shake down the public once again. Guess someone has to pay for the election. Amelia - Original Message - From: "John Cone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] What a Mid-East War Would Mean to the U.S. -Caveat Lector- --- Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "What a Mid-East War Would Mean to the U.S. The vast majority of the population in the United States were too young to remember the 6 day (1967 war) and the 1973 Yom Kippur War in the Mid-East. The Yom Kippur war resulted in the Arab oil embargo which devastated the U.S. economy for a decade. Gasoline went from .20 wholesale to over .80 cents." _ Nakano replies: Yes oil and energy prices skyrocketed up. Yes their were "gas lines" Yes the U.S. economy was adversely impacted. Yes about the thermostats and the 55 MPH speed limits. BUT... NOT BECAUSE OF THE YOM KIPPUR WAR AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE ARABS. THAT WAS THE EXCUSE, NOT THE REAL REASON. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AP: Documentary Examines NSA Role
-Caveat Lector- Documentary Examines NSA Role By EUN-KYUNG KIM .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - The National Security Agency, the supersecret intelligence mission most Americans do not even know exists, gives some explanation in a television documentary for its tightlipped behavior. ``It's really important that the American people understand what we do, that we are in fact a relatively powerful organization. And it's absolutely critical that they don't fear the power that we have,'' the agency's director, Lt. Gen. Michael V. Hayden, says in a rare interview. The History Channel program, airing Monday as part of the network's ``History's Mysteries'' series, seeks to explain the agency's mission and examines recent controversies. Considered the eavesdropping branch of the intelligence community, the NSA gathers information through satellites, telephone intercepts and other methods. Not much else is known about the NSA, which employees joke stands for ``No Such Agency'' Hayden offers little more. ``We intercept communications of adversaries of the United States and attempt to turn that into wisdom for American policy-makers and commanders,'' he said, according to a transcript of the show. ``By the same token, we attempt to prevent other nations from doing that to the United States of America. That's what we do.'' Congress recently resolved a budget battle over funds for the NSA when President Clinton signed legislation authorizing money for intelligence agencies, including the NSA and CIA. He had vetoed the original spending bill because of a provision that would have made the leaking of government secrets a felony offense. The exact budget figure included in the bill is classified. ``If you were comparing NSA to a corporation in terms of dollars spent, floor space occupied and personnel employed, it would rank in the top 10 percent of the Fortune 500 companies,'' said Judith Emmel, a spokeswoman for the agency, which has its headquarters in Fort Meade, Md. Last year, the NSA defended itself against allegations it illegally snooped into e-mail messages and other communications between ordinary Americans. On the cable program, Hayden denied such action. ``I'm here to tell you that we don't get close to the Fourth Amendment,'' he said, referring to the constitutional provision prohibiting unreasonable search and seizure. ``We, for better or worse, stay comfortably away from that line.'' The program recounts the agency's history and the codes it has deciphered from Japanese, German, Vietnamese and other foreign governments during past conflicts. ``The ability to do communications intelligence has saved lives. It has kept us out of war. It has shortened war when we've been in it,'' said David Hatch, NSA senior historian. The NSA had to revise its mission after the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union. The agency soon shifted its focus to terrorists, drug traffickers and the threat of war over the Internet. ``Cyberwar is a term that you hear today a lot. And the business we're in is to counter the effectiveness of cyberwarfare against our infrastructures,'' said Michael Jacobs, deputy director of information assurance. ``We acquire information, we determine its value and we pass it on,'' said Maureen Baginski, who heads NSA's Office of the Director. ``Really, what you have here is a bunch of Americans that are safeguarding Americans.'' On the Net: National Security Agency: http://www.nsa.gov History Channel: http://www.historychannel.com/ AP-NY-01-06-01 1220EST Copyright 2001 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] LT: Black and white proof of Dubya's new conservatism
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/01/07/stifgnusa01005.html January 7, 2001 The London Times UNITED STATES NEWS Black and white proof of Dubya's new conservatism Bush feels the heat as critics lie in wait for his first big decisions 'Son of star wars' missile shield ready for lift-off (UNITED STATES) IT HAS only just begun to sink in that white men are a distinct minority in George W Bush's new cabinet. So far, there are six of them. In every other post there's a new face for conservatism. At the education department there's a black superintendent of schools who believes that parents should have more choice over where their kids are taught. At energy is a Lebanese-Americanwith strong ties to the auto industry; at environment is Christie Todd Whitman, a charismatic, pro-choice Republican woman. The new housing secretary is a Cuban immigrant; the secretary of state is the son of Caribbean immigrants; the national security adviser is a black woman who grew up in the segregated South; the labour and interior departments get two rising conservative women, Linda Chavez and Gale Norton. At transportation there's a Japanese-American Democrat. The shocking thing about these appointments is that they do not reek of special treatment, affirmative action, quotas or any of the other paraphernalia of the multicultural left. These individuals are from all walks of life and of unimpeachable credentials. Some of them, particularly because they had to resist the groupthink of their respective communities, have a sharp conservative edge to them, especially Norton and Chavez. There is still a cadre of white, straight, corporate types in important positions: "prime minister" Dick Cheney; Paul O'Neill at the treasury; Donald Rumsfeld at the Pentagon. But even here appearances can be deceptive. Cheney, the vice-president, is a supporter of some legal backing for gay relationships and has a daughter who is openly gay. O'Neill is regarded as a maverick who pioneered worker-friendly policies at Alcoa, his aluminium company. Rumsfeld is a remarkably skilled and experienced man, a no-nonsense executive who made a fortune at G D Searle, the pharmaceutical giant. He is no knee-jerk establishmentarian. He is an insider rebel who cedes to nobody in his hawkishness and may well be single-handedly responsible for bringing missile defence to the West. The contrast with Bill Clinton's cabinet could not be more acute. Yes, Clinton's cabinet "looked like America" in its obsession with racial and gender balance. But it was staffed with mediocrities who never threatened Clinton's control of policy. Clinton, like Tony Blair, has been a control freak and too insecure to tolerate real rivals. With a couple of exceptions, such as Robert Rubin and Richard Holbrooke, it's hard to remember any solid contributions that his cabinet made to the country. Bush, in contrast, has produced something completely opposite: a cabinet of people so obviously more skilled and experienced than he is that it is pretty close to embarrassing. It takes either an extraordinarily secure man or a completely clueless one to have gathered such an assembly of superiors. My gut tells me it's the former - and that this shrewdness is far more important in politics than any sort of bookish intelligence. W's cabinet obviously has a mandate to act rather than to talk, which makes it the most structurally powerful since Dwight D Eisenhower's. Its ethnic and sexual diversity is not synonymous with PC doctrine. People such as Mel Martinez, secretary of housing, and Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, did not get their positions by parroting the victimology of racial interest groups. Nor are they products of the Republican party itself, which has had some difficulty in promoting minorities to positions of power. They are individuals first and foremost, plucked by Bush to pioneer a more inclusive elite without sacrificing Republican principles. The point of these picks is to show that diversity need not mean liberalism. They show that the values which conservatives hold dear - equality of opportunity and personal responsibility - know no racial or gender barriers. In this, Bush has made few missteps. His appointment of ultra-right John Ashcroft to the justice department is likely to reverse the inroads among black voters that his high-profile black appointments might have achieved. Ashcroft is a vehement supporter of the death penalty. He received an honorary degree from Bob Jones University, a place renowned for bans on interracial dating and rabid anti-Catholicism. By all accounts, Ashcroft is a decent man with indecent views (he believes in maintaining criminal sanctions against homosexuals, for example), but by siphoning off the ugliness of the religious right into a sole position, Bush may well have minimised the harm his reactionary base can inflict on Republican prospects. For Bush can do the maths. He can
[CTRL] SNET: UNICEF Owns Your Kids, Sheeple.......... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 19:02:28 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: UNICEF Owns Your Kids, Sheeple.. - SNETNEWS Mailing List United Nations Children's Fund Seeks to Usurp Parental Rights By Rev. Louis P. Sheldon Chairman, Traditional Values Coalition Washington, D.C. â Whenever a United Nations agency meets to discuss children's rights, parents should be wary. In September, 2001, the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) is organizing a New York summit on children's rights. UNICEF is celebrating the 10th anniversary of the implementation of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child. In U.N. Newspeak, "children's rights," typically means that the state will become the final authority over a child. The parent is relegated to the role of caretaker. In the U.N.'s view, the "family" is just a subunit of the state and is subservient to the state's needs. The officials who are organizing this UNICEF summit have recently created new rules for determining who can participate in various closed negotiating sessions over children's rights. UNICEF has ruled that the Non-Government Organizations (NGOs) participating in this summit can only have two representatives in each closed negotiating session. This children's summit will discuss abortion as well as homosexuality this fall as "human rights." What this means in practice, is that pro-family NGOs will be vastly outnumbered in the final sessions. They are usually outnumbered anyway, but this new rule will severely limit the ability of pro- family groups to fight these pro-abortion and pro-homosexual proposals. The primary goal of this UNICEF summit is to redefine the role of the traditional family and to promote the idea that children ages 10-18 have an inalienable right to be sexually active with same-sex partners and to abortion their unwanted babies if they choose opposite sex partners. These notions spring directly from the U.N. Declaration on the Rights of the Child. The U.N. Declaration, a treaty that has been warmly supported by President Clinton and Senator-elect Hillary Clinton, is a parent's nightmare. Clinton has been reluctant to send this treaty to the Senate because he knows Senator Jesse Helms will keep it bottled up in the Foreign Relations Committee. Helms is a vigorous opponent of any U.N. treaties that would erode parental rights or American sovereignty. If ever passed by the Senate, however, this treaty would usurp the right of parents to determine the moral and spiritual development of their children. In rather innocuous language, this U.N. document turns the United Nations into a global parent, wipes out parental rights, and gives children nearly unlimited freedoms to determine their own destinies without parental interference. The full text of this frightening document is available on UNICEF's web site. It is sobering to realize that even though this U.N. Declaration has been passed by nearly every nation on the earth, except the United States and Somalia, it has really done little to stop the abuse of children. Boys are still being routinely molested by homosexual predators in Thailand, kids are still being sold into sex slavery in the Sudan, and NAMBLA's worldwide outreach is still promoting the molestation of children. The Declaration usurps parental authority, while not really protecting children. The upcoming UNICEF summit will prove to be yet another effort of the United Nations to destroy the traditional family and to place all authority for parental decisions in the hands of a totalitarian U.N. agency. If the U.N. ever gains authority over parenting in the United States, we can say goodbye to freedom. It is our hope that President George W. Bush will never send this treaty or any other treaty to the Senate that gives this kind of totalitarian power to the United Nations. It is also our hope that pro-family NGOs at this UNICEF summit will be successful in overturning any U.N. proposals that will further erode parental rights in nations that have already signed the U.N. Declaration. Parenting should be left to parents, not a U.N. agency. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and
[CTRL] Testing Testing 1 2 3 Testing...
-Caveat Lector- Testing... A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sv: [CTRL] Laurence Gardner-again
-Caveat Lector- Dear Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine, I have made comments below to correct your blatant errors on the subject of David Icke, Stewart Swerdlow and Laurence Gardner. Your text is marked DR, my response is marked OG. Best, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark - Original Message - From: nexusmagazine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 1:01 AM Subject: [CTRL] Laurence Gardner-again Dear C. I have no dislike of Lawrence Gardner, as I dont know him personally, but I know Stewart Swerdlow, and he has seen Gardner doing shapeshifting, as revealed by David Icke in "The Biggest Secret." Best, Ole Gerstrom DR: Let's get this correct Ole. Swerdlow "claims" to have "suddenly remembered" seeing Gardner shapeshift. OG: Swerdlow certainly did not "suddenly remember." He told David Icke that "He has never named names before, but has now chosen to talk." DR:He only remembered this after David Icke publicly posted a sign on his website asking for anyone with any dirt on Laurence Gardner to step forth. OG: Icke did not ask for dirt. He wrote: "If Sir Laurence Gardner has any reply to what Stewart Swerdlow is saying, please send it to this website and I will make sure that every word is printed with equal prominence." But he never got an answwer. DR: Swerdlow is NOT considered as genuine by other Montauk survivors. He is considered a 'johnny come lately' seeking to cash in on the whole affair. OG: This is a derogatory statement of a type usually found in the yellow press. Have you ever considered lowering the price of Nexus, or is it simply a money machine? DR: I've met Swerdlow, and I've met Gardner. I do not believe the claims of Swerdlow. He claims that he witnessed Gardner cutting up and eating babies, years before Gardner's passport shows he even entered the USA. I suppose Gardner popped out his wings and flew over the Atlantic so that no records would reveal his feasting? OG: Swerdlow did not claim that "he witnessed Gardner cutting up and eating babies," he stated that he witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals at the Montauk mind control centre on Long Island, New York, in which Sir Laurence Gardner played a major role. Regarding the missing stamps in Gardners passport, I would say that is no proof whatsoever. Montauk was run by the US Government/Military, and of course overseas participants would be flown in by military planes and not going through customs and immigrations. DR: Give me a break! OG: By all means. DR: Icke started the anti-Gardner crusade because he initially assumed Gardner was knighted by the British Royal Family (and we all know that they are reptiles according to Icke). Icke, as usual, failed to do the most basic checking, and got it wrong! Rather than admit wrongness, he casts around for traumatised mind control victims, upon whose dubious testimony, he smear Gardner and his work. Why does Icke not challenge Gardner on the research points, instead of going for the character smear angle? OG: Icke did not smear. Let me repeat, Icke wrote: "If Sir Laurence Gardner has any reply to what Stewart Swerdlow is saying, please send it to this website and I will make sure that every word is printed with equal prominence." DR: Gardner's research shows the continuity of a bloodline from ancient royal powerbrokers, through biblical times to the present. Gardner differs from Icke on the issue of Jesus. Icke maintains that Jesus Christ is a myth, whereas Gardner finds a geneaological path through these families to the present time. OG: Yes, but did Gardner really find this path. Did he not base his works on Masonic and similar sources? DR: After seeing how Icke does his research (notice even his key co-researchers left Icke in disgust) and seeing how Gardner does his research, my money is on Gardner's authenticity and integrity any day. OG: There was no key-researcher leaving Icke in disgust. DR: And Ole, every single mind control victim I have interviewed has told me that one should NEVER take as gospel what they remember. Cathy O'Brien was emphatic when she said to me, that the recollections of mind-control victims can not be taken as 100 per cent accurate. Swerdlow is included in that category, as is Arizona Wilder, the two witnesses for the prosecution of Laurence Gardner as incited by David Icke! OG: Dear Duncan, neither do I take as gospel what a magazine editor comes up with! --- Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means
[CTRL] Shape-shifting reptilians in FEMA!?
From: Alan DeWalton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Wednesday, 1 December 1999 15:22Subject: [TheEagle-L] Shape-shifting reptilians in FEMA!?Come-on folks, these stories are coming in from all over theplace, from all different sources... and still people think it'sall a joke!? If a bunch of FEMA "collection agents" appear atyour door when/if Martial law hits, BWEARE, they may not evenbe HUMAN! This information comes from the latest "issue" ofTHE STRANGE e-magazine.Alan---#2. The Bauers And The Lizard Man Of FEMA / From RAH 11-14-99Forwarded by: Mike Harman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.davidicke.com/A few years ago I became aquainted with a lovely person with thesurname ofBauer. We had many varied and wide ranging discussions. Duringone of thesetalks, the subject of schizophrenia came up. She said it ran inher family.Asking for more detail, she told me her mother and great aunthad beenafflicted by it. It was the vision hallucination type. The oddthing is thatthe hallucinations were incredibly similar. Their'hallucinations' were ofpeople 'of royal blood' turning into giant lizards! Having justread DavidIcke's book recently, this information didn't seem too relaventat the time.I was at FEMA training headquarters in Fredricksburg, Marylandattending aradiological defense pilot course in 1982 for the Washingtonstate Departmentof Emergency Services. During the orientation, Louis Guiffreda,one of thehead honchos and a cousin of George Bush, came in to observe.When he satdown I noticed a dark haze around him. I kept looking at him tosee if myeyes were playing tricks on me or what, but it stayed the same.I was up in the seats alone as I like to be in these things.Soon, I noticedhe was staring at me! This unnerved me. I closed my eyes andtried to relax.When I opened my eyes again, I saw him coming toward me. He satdown a fewrows behind and to the left of me. I glanced back and saw himleaning forwardwith his eyes closed. I figured he was just tired and decided totake a restwith me.While sitting there trying to relax, I heard a strange hissingand swishingsound come from behind me. I opened my eyes, but was afraid tolook around. Isaw a woman in our group looking up in our direction with a lookofastonishment and shock on her face. She kept looking upnervously in ourdirection.Eventually, Guiffreda left with his body guards(waxy faced suitswithsunglasses) and the presentation continued.After the orientation, I walked outside and found this womansobbing andshaking in the arms of another participant. I intruded and saidI wanted toknow why she was looking up with that look on her face. Shedidn't want tosay, but with repeated assurance from me she told me. She hadseen Guiffreda'turn' into a lizard! The other guy said Guiffreda had thenickname of lizardman in the circles around FEMA and he has a skin disease thatmakes his skinlook like scales.We tried to assure her that she was just stressed or something.I thoughtmaybe too many drugs or over active imagination. But she wasvery adamantabout what she saw and was visibly shaken by it. The other guyalso saidthere was scuttlebutt of an underground rail system that ranunder the FEMAfacility. Just as he said that, we felt a low rumbling beneathour feet likea subway. We noticed some suits coming in our direction andheaded off.Over the course of the next two weeks we all got to know eachother fairlywell. All these people where professionals in their fields. Ifound them allreasonable and fine examples of who I would call true friends. Ihadforgotton about this experience until I read David's book. Itwas just one ofthose odd things that didn't make sense. Now it does. I alsoposted info onthe Bauer family earlier. I was in quite a bit of shock when Ifinally madeall the connections. So, what more can I say? I don't justbelieve it's real,I 'know' it is. Unless, of course, I want to deny my ownexperience andsenses.http://www.bravenet.com/ Web Forum © by Bravenet Web Services eGroups Sponsor Armageddon or New Age? Daily Magazine.To unsubscribe send a blank email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] The Name/Gender Thing was Wiccan etc.
-Caveat Lector- In the U.S., both Johnnie and Willie (with an "ie") are unisex names, while Johnny and Willy (with a "y") are masculine. There is one person on this list, who would know Nessie's gender for sure, and that is our own Kris Millegan.. Kris and Nessie have both spoken of meeting in person at the CIA-DRUGS conference in Eugene last year. And how do you know Nessie was named after the lake? It could be a diminutive of his given name (possibly Nicholas?) or surname. I went to high school with several students whose last name was Ness. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Court frees Limone after 33 years in prison
-Caveat Lector- Personally, I would like to see former Special Agent H. Paul Rico spend the rest of his life in prison. Fat chance anything will be done to him, though. - http://boston.com/dailyglobe2/006/metro/Court_frees_Limone_after_ 33_years_in_prison+.shtml Court frees Limone after 33 years in prison By Ralph Ranalli, Globe Correspondent, 1/6/2001 AMBRIDGE - One arm cradling a bouquet of yellow roses, the other wrapped tightly around his tearful wife, Peter Limone walked out of Middlesex Superior Courthouse yesterday a free man after allegedly being framed for murder by the FBI and spending 33 years in prison, four of them on death row. ''Mr. Limone's long wait is over,'' said Middlesex Superior Court Judge Margaret Hinkle, prompting applause and tears from a large group of relatives and supporters of Limone in the East Cambridge courtroom. Hinkle, who said it was ''now time to move on,'' granted a joint motion by defense lawyers and Suffolk District Attorney Ralph C. Martin II's office to give Limone, 66, a new trial and vacate his life sentence. After spending half his life behind bars for the murder of Edward ''Teddy'' Deegan in 1965, Limone was freed largely on the basis of secret FBI documents uncovered by a Justice Department task force investigating corruption in the bureau's use of organized crime informants. The documents, which were never turned over to defense lawyers in the Deegan case, suggest that a onetime FBI informant, Vincent J. ''Jimmy the Bear'' Flemmi, planned Deegan's murder, not Limone. The key witness against Limone - hit man-turned-FBI-witness Joseph ''The Animal'' Barboza - was Flemmi's best friend. The documents say that an informant told the FBI who the participants in the murder were, and Limone and the three men convicted along with him weren't among them. The documents also suggest that FBI agents not only covered up evidence that Limone and three other men were wrongly convicted in order to protect Flemmi and his gangster brother, Stephen - an FBI informant for nearly 30 years - but also knew about the Deegan murder plot in advance and did nothing to stop it. ''The conduct of the bureau at the time of the murder of Mr. Deegan and the trial of Mr. Limone tarnishes that agency,'' said Hinkle, a former assistant US attorney. Limone had harsh words yesterday for the bureau, particularly former Special Agent H. Paul Rico, who was Barboza's FBI handler and is reportedly a target of the Justice Department corruption task force. ''He framed me. He knew what he was doing,'' the silver-haired Limone said of the agent, who is retired and living in Florida. ''He's scum. He set it all up.'' Overall, however, the mood of the Limone family was joyful and free of bitterness and rancor. Flanked by his wife, Olympia, his four children, and six of his eight grandchildren, Limone spoke mostly of his gratitude for the people who stood by him and helped him over the years, particularly his relatives and his attorney, John Cavicchi. ''I just give thanks to the good people I have been involved with,'' he said. ''I am very happy.'' Prison, he said, was ''very hard, every day in there, knowing I was innocent.'' His time was made even harder by watching two codefendants, Henry Tameleo and Louis Greco, die in prison while their appeals were rejected by court after court. Defense lawyers allege that Barboza and the FBI framed Limone, Tameleo, Greco, and a fourth codefendant, Joseph Salvati, in order to settle personal scores and to satisfy a mandate from FBI headquarters to make cases against the underworld. Tameleo was believed to be a top figure in the Patriarca New England crime family and Limone and Greco were reputed associates. Salvati, who owed Barboza money, had his life sentence commuted by Governor William F. Weld in 1997. Martin's office also filed motions with Hinkle Thursday to vacate Salvati's sentence and grant him a new trial. Assistant District Attorney Mark Lee said the newly discovered FBI documents were a key factor - along with other recently uncovered witness statements and evidence indicating Limone and Salvati's innocence - in their decision to drop their opposition to a new trial. ''The documents painted a very compelling picture,'' Lee said. ''What happened here was wrong enough for us to come into court and say that this mandates a new trial.'' Publicly, Martin's office had no comment on whether they would pursue a new trial or drop the case, but privately, sources close to the office called it a practical impossibility because of the age of the case, the doubts cast on it by the FBI documents, and the fact that Barboza was murdered in 1976. Limone and his lawyer said they would wait before considering whether to file a civil lawsuit against the FBI or state prosecutors. Cavicchi, however, said that based on what has been paid to other wrongfully imprisoned defendants, ''$5 million might be a good starting point.'' This story ran on page B1
[CTRL] DAVID'S LIFE ON THE LINE
- Original Message - From: Mike Clark To: 'Dorothy White' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: RE: DavidIcke2000 RE: DAVID'S LIFE ON THE LINE DorothyYou must have not read my message. The Micro BiologicalInnoculator causes the victim to DIE OF SUPPOSED NATURALCAUSES.The BRITISH stole the ISLAND OF GIBRALTAR from the SPANISHafter the BATTLE OF THE ARMADA IN 1588. FOR 400 YEARSthe ISLAND OF GIBRALTAR WAS THE BRITISH BLACK NOBILITY'STOXICOLOGY LABORATORY. THIS IS WHERE THEY DEVELOPED ALL OF THE POISONS TO MAKEYOU LOOK LIKE YOU DIED OF NATURAL CAUSES.IT WAS A POISON DEVELOPED HERE IN THE 1700'S THAT THEBRITISH BLACK NOBILITIY FREEMASONS PUT INTO THE FOOD OF NAPOLEON BONAPARTE WHILE HE WAS ON THE ISLAND OF ST. HELENA. HE WAS FED THE POISON IN 1815 AND DIEDA FEW YEARS LATER OF ( STOMACH CANCER ) A NATURAL CAUSE OF COURSE.WHILE JACK RUBENSTEIN ( ALIAS JACK RUBY , MAFIA SOLDIER )WAS IN THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL AWAITING TRIAL , HE WASFED POWDERED BERYLLIUM OXIDE. BERYLLIUM OXIDE CAUSESA MUCH FASTER STOMACH CANCER. NATURALLY THE FREEMASONICINTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HAD ( NOTHING ) TO DO WITH IT.POOR OLD JACK JUST DIED OF NATURAL CAUSES. ( RIGHT ).YES THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY BLACK LODGES HAVE THEINNOCULATOR. IT HAS A RANGE OF OVER 100 YARDS. AND FIRES A SILENT AMPULE THAT THE VICTIM WONT EVEN FEEL.THEN A FEW YEARS LATER , THE VICTIM DIES OF ( NATURAL ) CAUSES.THEY HAVE 1000'S OF SUCH WEAPONS.THEIR FAVORITE WEAPON AT THIS PRESENT MOMENT IS THE MOSQUITO.THE MOSQUITO TRANSMITS THE HIV VIRUS MANUFACTURED BY LITTONBIONETICS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. ( AT THE INSTRUCTIONOF THE BRITISH ILLUMINATI FAMILY , THE BATTENBURGS AND THESAXE-COBURG-GOTHA'S ). AFTER THE VIRUS WAS GENETICALLYENGINEERED FROM SEVERAL SEPARATE VIRUSES ( AMONGST THEM WASTHE SPECIAL FELINE LEUKEMIA VIRUS ) , THEY MADE UP 15,000GALLONS OF THIS POISON SOUP. THE EX-NAZI PROPRIETORY CORPORATION ( MERCK, SHARP AND DOHME CO.) MADE UP THEGENOCIDAL VACCINES. THIS HIV POISON SOUP , WAS FIRST INNOCULATED INTO THE W.H.O.HAITIANS NURSES , SUPPOSEDLY TO HELP THEM FIGHT OFF HEPATITIS B.THEN THE GAY COMMUNITY OF NEW YORK CITY. THIRDLY THE WILLOWBROOK SCHOOL FOR RETARDED CHILDREN ALSO IN NEW YORK.AND FOURTHLY INTO THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN THE CENTRAL AFRICANREPUBLICS OF ZAIRE , MALAWI AND NAMIBIA. THIS WAS ALL IN 1978.FOUR YEARS LATER. THE HIV DISEASE STARTED APPEARING INHAITI, THE GAY COMMUNITY OF NEW YORK , THE WILLOWBROOKSCHOOL FOR RETARDED CHILDREN, AND ALSO THE CENTRAL AFRICANREPUBLICS MENTIONED.IS DAVID ICKE'S LIFE IN DANGER. WHAT DO YOU THINK.THIS DOROTHY IS THE " GREATEST GENOCIDE " IN THE HISTORYOF THE WORLD.AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE THE " SIXTH ARYAN ROOT RACE " MAKESTHE " FIFTH ARYAN ROOT RACE - THE NAZI'S " LOOK LIKEBOY SCOUTS.MIKE FROM DALLAS-Original Message-From: Dorothy White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 6:00 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: DavidIcke2000 RE: DAVID'S LIFE ON THE LINEHi Mike, do you really think anyone/organisation would be stupid enough to take David's life.Surely this would only give credence to the contents of his books???Dot.From: Mike Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: DavidIcke2000 RE: DAVID'S LIFE ON THE LINEDate: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:59:39 -0600YES INDEED DAVID ICKE'S LIFE IS MOST CERTAINLY ON THELINE.I received in the mail the schematics for a WONDERFULLITTLE DEVICE CALLED THE MICRO BIOLOGICAL INNOCULATOR.It is essentially one of those MAGNETIC RAIL GUNS.Except in a much smaller version. It is the samesize as 45 caliber hand gun. It fires a magneticampule in a magnetic container through a magnetizedbarrel. The range of the weapon is over 100 yards.The ampule of biological toxin ( HIV , ANTHRAX , orwhatever ) is so small that the person BEING SHOTWILL ACTUALLY FEEL NOTHING. AND NEVER KNOW THATTHEY HAVE BEEN INFECTED ( ASSASSINATED ) UNTIL THEIRSYMPTOMS MANIFEST THEMSELVES.THE WEAPON OF COURSE IS COMPLETELY SILENT AS IT FIRESNO GUN POWDER PROJECTILE.ALL OF YOU " SHRINKING VIOLETS AND TURQUOISE VOMITERS"THINK ABOUT THE REAL DANGER THAT MR.ICKE IS DEFINITELYIN.WHILE ALL OF YOU HIDE BEHIND YOUR FALSE PSEUDONYMS ANDARE LURKING SILENTLY WHILE PEOPLE WITH REAL COURAGEAND VALOR ARE DOING ALL THE DIRTY WORK FOR YOUR FREEDOM.SUCH AS ALEX JONES, EUSTACE MULLINS, BO GRITZ, WILLIAMCOOPER, TOM DONAHUE, LOU STAPLES, BILL BRUMBAUGH,MAE BRUSSELL , DOROTHY KILGALLEN. AND THOUSANDS MORE.AND DEFINITELY DAVID ICKE.IF YOU DONT RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE ABOVE NAMES , IT ISBECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN MURDERED BY THE NEW WORLDORDER.I HOPE ALL OF YOU " BRAVE LURKERS " HAVE A GOOD DAY.MIKE FROM DALLAS
[CTRL] MORE SWASTIKAS
- Original Message - From: Mike Clark To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 7:58 PM Subject: DavidIcke2000 RE: MORE SWASTIKAS TAKE A LOOK AT THE RUNWAY PATTERNS OF THE NEW ILLUMINATIDENVER INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. IT IS A SERIES OF SWASTIKA'SWITHIN SWASTIKA'S. THE AIRPORT HAS UNDERGROUND TUNNELSCONNECTED TO OTHER ILLUMINATI BASES HUNDREDS OF MILESAWAY USING MAGNETIC BULLET TRAINS. THE TRAINS GLIDEON A LAYER OF MAGNETIC ENERGY. THEY ARE CAPABLE OF1400 MILES AN HOUR. THE UNITED STATES BASE FOR THE " COMMITTEE OF 300 " ISLOCATED AT ASPEN COLORADO NOT FAR AWAY FROM DENVER.THIS IS CONFIRMED IN DR. JOHN COLEMAN'S BOOK OF THE SAMENAME. THE COMMITTEE IS COMPOSED OF THE ORIGINAL 300CLASS A STOCKHOLDERS OF THE " BRITISH EAST INDIA COMPANY".200 HUNDRED OF THESE FAMILIES RESIDE IN BRITTANNIA. THE OTHER 100 COMPRISE THE " OLIGARCHY " THAT RULES THE UNITEDSTATES. THE VIRGINIA COMPANY OVERLAPS SOMEHOW WITHTHE COMMITTEE OF 300. I JUST DONT HAVE ALL THE FACTS ONTHAT AS YET. GIVE ME TIME.UNFORTUNATELY WE ONLY WON HALF OF OUR INDEPENDENCE FROM " PERFIDIOUS ALBION " IN 1781. WE STILL HAVE ONE MOREHALF TO GO. THAT EVENT IS COMING UP SHORTLY. YES INDEED. PERFIDIOUS ALBION IT IS TO THE MAXIMUM.SOME OF YOU ARE WONDERING WHAT " PERFIDIOUS ALBION " IS.I'LL LET YOU MEDITATE ON THAT ONE.MIKE FROM DALLASSubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]Unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] GOP Busy-bodies, MYOB!
Bush Strikes Again Plasticman writes on RAME: There's only one thing that Linda Chavez likes less than pornography, and that's when she finds it on the Internet. The conservative queen of syndicated outrage, who happens to be George W. Bush's pick to head the Department of Labor, has repeatedly warned of what she describes as the perils of sexually explicit material online and urged government action against it. If the Senate gives her the nod, Chavez will not have any day-to-day responsibilities dealing with online speech. But her nomination signals the approach that a Bush presidency is likely to take toward sexually explicit material online. One example: Chavez, currently a weekly columnist, jumped into a dispute in 1998 over the use of filtering software in a Virginia public library. After a federal judge ruled that Loudoun County's restrictive filtering policy was too broad and violated the First Amendment, Chavez showed up at the library board's next hearing and urged the members to appeal the courtroom defeat. "Judge Brinkema's decision goes far beyond any reasonable interpretation of the 'free speech' clause of the First Amendment and sets dangerous legal precedent that if left unchallenged will debase the political freedoms of citizens in a democracy to enact sensible policies designed both to protect children and uphold community standards of decency and decorum in public places," Chavez said in a written statement. In a column at the time, she blasted U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema's ruling, saying Loudoun County will be where "the constitutional right to view child pornography, bestiality and snuff films in a public library was first established, thanks to a federal court ruling last week." She also condemned a Supreme Court decision last year to strike down some rules governing cable TV scrambling on free speech grounds. Another column complained about her "unwanted brush with gay pornography" when she was channel-surfing late one night in a Manhattan hotel room. In other appointments: The House Republicans on Friday chose committee chairmen for the 107th Congress. Taking over the Commerce committee is Rep. Billy Tauzin, another Washington pornophobe. "Frankly, I think the Justice Department's record on prosecuting obscenity and indecency on the Internet is appalling," Tauzin (R-Louisiana) said last May. Tauzin, who was the telecom subcommittee chairman, has also complained that under the Clinton administration, dot-gov firms did not adequately protect online privacy. Last month he attacked the FCC for embarking "on a pernicious form of regulation using the process of licensing approval and renewal, or whatever gets someone in front of them, to get whoever it is to stay in that room until they agree to the commission's policies." Tauzin has supported restrictions on Internet gambling and won an award from the Business Software Alliance last year for backing the controversial Digital Millennium Copyright Act. http://www.lukeford.com/
[CTRL] ???
-Caveat Lector- Who turned the lights out...or did somebody forget to pay this bill too? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sv: Re: [CTRL] Check out 180 lashes for Nigerian teen mum to go ahead:governor
-Caveat Lector- Dear Johannes, You write about Islamic law protecting the accused! Look what is reported below: The woman got 100 lashes for making unproven claims against the men. She could not prove that she had been raped, because she did not have necessary witneses. Under Islamic law the evidence from 2 women is outweighed by the testimony of one man. This is not law, this is barbarisme. Best, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark - Original Message - From: Johannes Schmidt III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Check out 180 lashes for Nigerian teen mum to go ahead:governor -Caveat Lector- I believe under islamic law you need two witnesses (it might be three) if you are accusing someone of a crime to convict them. This is just the way Islamic law works, and you can see how it protects the accused (perhaps unfairly) from accusations where until recently there was no way of having evidence other than witnesses. On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:45:04 EST "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/04/2001 1:47:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The judge of the local Islamic court, Idris Usman Gusau, ruled that under the terms of Islamic law introduced in Zamfara last year, she had not proven her claims against the three men. He sentenced her to 80 lashes for pre-marital sex and 100 lashes for making unproven claims against the men. There is a simple way to substantiate her claim against at least one of the men. DNA will tell us which one is the father of her child. Apparently the Nigerians are so eager to beat up a woman that they haven't taken time to step into the present century. Sounds like one of those "progressive" African nations. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Donald Rusmfeld Committee for a Free World
Donald Rumsfeld Committee for a "Free World" GroupWatch was compiled by the Interhemispheric Resource Center, Box 4506, Albuquerque, NM 87196. http://www.irc-online.org/ GroupWatch files are available at http://www.pir.org/gw/ Group: Committee for the Free World File Name: cfw.txt Last Updated: 8/89 Principals: Officers in 1989 are: Donald H. Rumsfeld, chairman; Midge Decter, exec dir; Neal Kozodoy, sec; Robert B. Glynn, treas.(1) Board of Directors, 1989 are: William Barrett, author and philosopher; Alain Bensancon, Ecole des Hautes Etudes, France; Enzo Bettiza, journalist, Italy; Gerd Bucerius, Die Zeit, Germany; Jean-Claude Casanova, Commentaire, France; Lord Chalfont, author, U.K.; Carl Gershman, pres of the National Endowment for Democracy; Sir James Goldsmith, publisher, France; Johannes Gross, author, W. Germany; Paul Johnson, author, U.K.; Jeane Kirkpatrick, former ambassador to the United Nations; Leszek Kolakowski, U. of Chicago; Hilton Kramer, The New Criterion; Irving Kristol, The Public Interest; Leopold Labedz, Survey, U.K.; Melvin J. Lasky, Encounter, U.K.; Seymour Martin Lipset, Stanford U.; Nicholas Lobkowixz, Catholic U., W. Germany; Golo Mann; historian, W. Germany; Indro Montanelli, journalist, Italy; Erwin Scheuch, U. of Cologne, W. Germany; Edward Shils, U. of Chicago; Tom Stoppard, playwright, U.K.; Lord Thomas, Centre for Policy Studies, U.K.; George Urban, historian, U.K.; Jacqueline Wheldon, author, U.K.; and George F. Will, columnist.(1) Columnist Micah Morrison is a deputy director of CFW.(4) Category: Political Background: The Committee for the Free World (CFW) was founded in 1981 by Midge Decter who is the executive director. CFW has tax- exempt status under 501(c)(3) and began with funding of $125,000 from individuals and ultra-conservative foundations. Among the original funders were three of the major right-wing foundations: Scaife, John M. Olin, and Smith Richardson.(2) In its initial press conference, the CFW said it planned to work for freedom "in the world of ideas," and planned to concentrate its efforts on books, newspapers, broadcasting networks, and in classrooms.(2) It envisioned itself as an organization committed to the defense of the non-communist world "against the rising menace of totalitarianism."(2) The group's intellectualism, democratic emphasis, and strident anti- communism places the CFW in the arena of the numerous neoconservative groups formed preceeding and following the election of former President Ronald Reagan. According to its brochure, the CFW has three purposes: to promote democracy; to keep the public aware of all threats to democracy; and to oppose the influence of those inside and outside of the U.S. "who have made themselves the enemies of the democratic order."(1) CFW has a speakers bureau and has a monthly publication, "Contentions."(1) It claims to have 400 members and to focus its activities in the U.K. and the U.S.(2,3 Countries: FR, IT, UK, US, and WG. Funding: The Scaife Family Charitable Trusts and the Smith Richardson Foundations put up at least $25,000 each in 1981.(3) The Adolph Coors Foundation gave CWF a $15,000 grant in 1985 for projects advocating democracy and a free society.(17) The John M. Olin Foundation granted $35,000 in 1985 and $50,000 in 1986 for support of publications and for other educational purposes.(17,18) The Smith Richardson Foundation awarded four grants in 1985: $35,000 for general support, $35,000 for Women and Families for Defense, $25,000 for a film project on the American Communist Party, and $10,000 for the Campus Coalition for Democracy.(17) In 1986, Smith Richardson gave $42,500 for general support.(18) In 1985, The Sarah Scaife Foundation gave $35,000 for operating support.(17) The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation gave $100,000 in 1986 in support of a conference in Milwaukee and general activities.(18) Activities: Director Midge Decter and deputy director Micah Morrison regularly write columns for the national press, including The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal.(4,5) CFW activities and policies are often covered in the Unification Church-owned Washington Times.(6,7) The articles generally attack politicians or legislation under consideration that proposes cooperation with communist nations or arms reduction.(4,5,7) Over the past few years, the CFW along with the Smith Richardson Foundation have provided $100,000 to an ad hoc task force headed by three Phoenix lawyers who are opposing the connection of the American Bar Association with the Association of Soviet Lawyers.(5) The Phoenix task force represents Soviet Jewry and Ukranian and Baltic nationalists.(5) The CFW has taken a number of full-page ads in the New York Times and Washington Post.(8,9,10,11) One printed in the Times in 1988 opposed the cease-fire in Nicaragua proposed at the Sapoa meeting by five Central American Nations. The ad claimed that, "peace accords that are not backed
[CTRL] Black slavery is alive
-Caveat Lector- Jewish World Review Jan. 3, 2001 / 8 Teves, 5761 Walter Williams Black slavery is alive http://www.jewishworldreview.com -- BLACK SLAVES are still available -- just not in the United States. To make a purchase, you'dhave to travel to the Sudan as Gerald Williams, Harvard University pre-med student, did in October 2000. Slavery in the Sudan is in part a result of a 15-year war by the Muslim north against the black Christian and animist south. Arab militias, armed by the Khartoum government, raid villages, mostly those of the Dinka tribe. They shoot the men and enslave the women and children. Women and children are kept as personal property or they're taken north and auctioned off. In Sudanese slave markets, a woman or child can be purchased for $90. An Anti-Slavery International investigator interviewed Abuk Thuc Akwar, a 13-year-old girl who, along with 24other children, was captured by the militia, marched north and given to a farmer. The investigator reported, "Throughout the day she worked in his sorghum fields and at night in his bed. During the march, she was raped and called a black donkey." The girl managed to escape with the help of the master's jealous wife. Williams visited the Sudan as part of an eight-person delegation sponsored by Christian Solidarity International (CSI). CSI, as well as the Boston-based American Anti-Slavery Group (AASG), have a stopgap mission of buying, at a cost of $85 each, Christian African women and children whom Muslims capture and enslave. AASG's purchase emancipates them. Williams' tales of Muslim atrocities are horrific. Six-year-old Mawien Ahir Bol failed to clean a goat pen to his master's satisfaction. The penalty: His index finger was cut off. Yak Kenyang Adieu's punishment for being too sick to tend to his master's goats was the loss of all fingers on his right hand. Williams' trip freed, through purchase, these two boys and 20 other slaves. Should you be interested in learning more about slavery, the American Anti-Slavery Group's web site is: www.anti- slavery.com. Chattel slavery also exists in the former French colony of Mauritania, where it was officially outlawed in 1980. The U.S. State Department estimated that as of 1994 there were 90,000 blacks living as property of Berbers. The Berbers use their slaves for labor, sex and breeding. They're also exchanged for camels, trucks, guns or money. Slave offspring become the property of the master. According to a 1990 Human Rights Watch report, routine Mauritanian slave punishments include beatings, denial of food and prolonged exposure to the sun, with hands and feet tied together. Serious infringement of the master's rule can mean prolonged horrible tortures such as the "insect treatment" -- where the slave is bound head and foot, and insects placed in his ears and other body orifices -- and "burning coals," where the slave is bound and buried with hot coals placed on parts of his body. American Anti-Slavery Group says, "Most distressing is the silence of the American media whose reports counted for so much in the battle to end apartheid in South Africa." Only recently, and thankfully so, have mainstream black organizations such as the Congressional Black Caucus and the NAACP taken a stand against chattel slavery in Mauritania and Sudan. At one time Minister Louis Farakhan simply denied that his brother Muslims could perpetrate such an injustice, but now he's quietly accepted the evidence. Jesse Jackson remains silent. Slavery is not the only African injustice that goes practically ignored. There's the frequent outbreaks of genocide in Rwanda, Burundi, Liberia and the Congo. In fact, it's fairly safe to say that most of today's most flagrant human rights abuses occur in Africa. But unfortunately they get little attention -- maybe it's because Africans instead of Europeans are the perpetrators; Europeans are held accountable to civilized standards of behavior, while Africans aren't. -- It's not that we don't have enough scoundrels to curse; it's that we don't have enough good men to curse them. - G. K. Chesterton, ILN, 3/14/08 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
[CTRL] Court frees Limone after 33 years in prision
http://boston.com/dailyglobe2/006/metro/Court_frees_Limone_after_33_years_in _prison+.shtml Court frees Limone after 33 years in prison By Ralph Ranalli, Globe Correspondent, 1/6/2001 AMBRIDGE - One arm cradling a bouquet of yellow roses, the other wrapped tightly around his tearful wife, Peter Limone walked out of Middlesex Superior Courthouse yesterday a free man after allegedly being framed for murder by the FBI and spending 33 years in prison, four of them on death row. ''Mr. Limone's long wait is over,'' said Middlesex Superior Court Judge Margaret Hinkle, prompting applause and tears from a large group of relatives and supporters of Limone in the East Cambridge courtroom. Hinkle, who said it was ''now time to move on,'' granted a joint motion by defense lawyers and Suffolk District Attorney Ralph C. Martin II's office to give Limone, 66, a new trial and vacate his life sentence. After spending half his life behind bars for the murder of Edward ''Teddy'' Deegan in 1965, Limone was freed largely on the basis of secret FBI documents uncovered by a Justice Department task force investigating corruption in the bureau's use of organized crime informants. The documents, which were never turned over to defense lawyers in the Deegan case, suggest that a onetime FBI informant, Vincent J. ''Jimmy the Bear'' Flemmi, planned Deegan's murder, not Limone. The key witness against Limone - hit man-turned-FBI-witness Joseph ''The Animal'' Barboza - was Flemmi's best friend. The documents say that an informant told the FBI who the participants in the murder were, and Limone and the three men convicted along with him weren't among them. The documents also suggest that FBI agents not only covered up evidence that Limone and three other men were wrongly convicted in order to protect Flemmi and his gangster brother, Stephen - an FBI informant for nearly 30 years - but also knew about the Deegan murder plot in advance and did nothing to stop it. ''The conduct of the bureau at the time of the murder of Mr. Deegan and the trial of Mr. Limone tarnishes that agency,'' said Hinkle, a former assistant US attorney. Limone had harsh words yesterday for the bureau, particularly former Special Agent H. Paul Rico, who was Barboza's FBI handler and is reportedly a target of the Justice Department corruption task force. ''He framed me. He knew what he was doing,'' the silver-haired Limone said of the agent, who is retired and living in Florida. ''He's scum. He set it all up.'' Overall, however, the mood of the Limone family was joyful and free of bitterness and rancor. Flanked by his wife, Olympia, his four children, and six of his eight grandchildren, Limone spoke mostly of his gratitude for the people who stood by him and helped him over the years, particularly his relatives and his attorney, John Cavicchi. ''I just give thanks to the good people I have been involved with,'' he said. ''I am very happy.'' Prison, he said, was ''very hard, every day in there, knowing I was innocent.'' His time was made even harder by watching two codefendants, Henry Tameleo and Louis Greco, die in prison while their appeals were rejected by court after court. Defense lawyers allege that Barboza and the FBI framed Limone, Tameleo, Greco, and a fourth codefendant, Joseph Salvati, in order to settle personal scores and to satisfy a mandate from FBI headquarters to make cases against the underworld. Tameleo was believed to be a top figure in the Patriarca New England crime family and Limone and Greco were reputed associates. Salvati, who owed Barboza money, had his life sentence commuted by Governor William F. Weld in 1997. Martin's office also filed motions with Hinkle Thursday to vacate Salvati's sentence and grant him a new trial. Assistant District Attorney Mark Lee said the newly discovered FBI documents were a key factor - along with other recently uncovered witness statements and evidence indicating Limone and Salvati's innocence - in their decision to drop their opposition to a new trial. ''The documents painted a very compelling picture,'' Lee said. ''What happened here was wrong enough for us to come into court and say that this mandates a new trial.'' Publicly, Martin's office had no comment on whether they would pursue a new trial or drop the case, but privately, sources close to the office called it a practical impossibility because of the age of the case, the doubts cast on it by the FBI documents, and the fact that Barboza was murdered in 1976. Limone and his lawyer said they would wait before considering whether to file a civil lawsuit against the FBI or state prosecutors. Cavicchi, however, said that based on what has been paid to other wrongfully imprisoned defendants, ''$5 million might be a good starting point.'' This story ran on page B1 of the Boston Globe on 1/6/2001. Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company. Boston Globe Online - Metro Region - Court frees Limone after 33 years
[CTRL] WP: The U.S. Shouldn't Lose Control of This Spying Technology
-Caveat Lector- What We Fail to Grasp: The U.S. Shouldn't Lose Control of This Spying Technology By Alan Tonelson Sunday, January 7, 2001 Page B05 When Dick Cheney and Colin Powell were overseeing U.S. military operations during the Persian Gulf War in 1990-91, much of their intelligence data on Saddam Hussein's forces was the result of technology that came from Tinsley Laboratories of Richmond, Calif. Tinsley has been the sole manufacturer of many of the state-of-the-art mirrors and lenses in the high-powered cameras carried by America's spy satellites -- systems that the Clinton administration has called "among the most valuable U.S. national security assets." The U.S. government has long sought to restrict foreign access to this technology. But that's about to change. As Cheney, Powell and the rest of the Bush team prepare to take office, Tinsley's parent company, Silicon Valley Group Inc., is scheduled to pass into foreign hands. Unless the Clinton administration acts by Friday, its legal authority to hold up the proposed sale will expire, and the U.S. manufacturer will become part of a Dutch company, ASM Lithography. Since ASM announced its acquisition of SVG/Tinsley in October, President Clinton's leading national security advisers have not shown much interest in closely reviewing the acquisition. Some career government officials are saying privately that their superiors do not seem adequately focused on determining whether foreign ownership of SVG/Tinsley will damage U.S. security interests. Last week, the issue got the attention of Sen. Robert F. Bennett (R-Utah). He asked Treasury Secretary Lawrence H. Summers -- whose department heads an interagency committee charged with evaluating the impact of such takeovers on national security -- to authorize a full investigation of the acquisition. Ordering such an investigation would have the effect of delaying the sale for at least 45 days -- enough time for the new administration to block the deal if such a step proves necessary. It will also give President-elect Bush a chance to show that he is serious about rebuilding the U.S. military and maintaining control over its high-tech foundations. The Treasury-headed interagency group -- known as the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) -- began a routine review of the SVG/Tinsley acquisition on Dec. 13. Since the committee was created in 1988, it has reviewed some 1,400 proposed deals. During the Clinton years, however, the panel has never blocked a deal (only one was nixed during the elder Bush's administration) and has conducted only about a dozen full-scale investigations of the kind sought by Bennett. Although the Netherlands plainly deserves its reputation as a loyal NATO ally, some U.S. defense and intelligence officials worry that ASM's far-flung global operations and corporate alliances with companies like Germany's Carl Zeiss and Schott Glass could make it more difficult to keep SVG/Tinsley's advanced optics and lithography capabilities from migrating to unfriendly countries. The sale also raises other policy questions -- mainly, should an American company be sold to foreign entities for private gain when it has benefited from U.S. government contracts and assistance totaling hundreds of millions of dollars? Since 1997, Tinsley has been owned by SVG, one of the world's leading producers of the manufacturing equipment that helps build semiconductors, the silicon chips integral to computers and other electronic equipment. Tinsley's strength in producing advanced optics made its acquisition by SVG a natural; the most critical phase of chip making (called lithography) involves using microscopic beams of light to etch equally microscopic circuit patterns onto silicon wafers. SVG/Tinsley is understandably a tempting takeover target for ASM, a lithography giant that lacks such leading-edge technologies. SVG/Tinsley's technologies are found throughout the U.S. military's highest tech systems, and are crucial to the Pentagon's future plans. In addition to strengthening the U.S. reconnaissance network, the company's optics are used in the lasers in missile defense systems being developed by the U.S. government's nuclear weapons labs at Livermore, Calif., and Sandia, N.M. Tinsley also engineered the optics package that put NASA's malfunctioning Hubble space telescope back in business. Moreover, SVG/Tinsley's capabilities are at the heart of a government-business partnership to create the next generation of lithography technology, a breakthrough urgently needed because current chip-making machines are nearing the physical limits of their ability to place more computing power onto each chip. Without access to the best possible semiconductor manufacturing equipment, the U.S. military may not enjoy exclusive access to the world's most advanced computer chips. Save for one small niche supplier, Ultratech Stepper in San Jose, Calif., SVG is the last remaining
Re: [CTRL] Israel Confirms Liquidation Policy - Arafat NotRuledOut
-Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/04/2001 6:14:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for your willingness to believe that Israelis enjoy killing women and kids, that says more about you than it does them. If you would bother to really learn about that conflict, then you would understand how foolish you sound when there is such a long violent rap sheet on the Palestinians. Just do some research on Ma'alot. Fortunately for them, the Israelis don't really give a shit what you think. They know what needs to be done and they do it. It's life and death for them, and only Liberal masterbation for you. I said nothing about Israelis "enjoying" killing women and kids, although perhaps they are a trifle quick on the trigger. You are right in part. They know what needs to be done, and it will be done. It isn't life or death, but it is comfort or poverty. No Prudy you are wrong. It is a matter of life or death. I lived there for a while some years ago. I lived among the Arab villages on the western border of the West Bank. On some summer evenings we would hitch a wagon to a tractor and hay ride to the coastal beach SEVEN AND A HALF MILES AWAY. The country is less than eight miles wide. Do you understand what this means? Do you understand what it means to have a common border with an armed enemy who is literally in the middle of your country. It means that there is no recovery time. For either side. People see Israel as potent military power. And it is. But what most people don't understand is that if it ever loses a war, it and it's population are dead. Other countries can lose wars and survive. Israel can't. Israel has a country. Israel does not mean to share it with anyone. Where do you get this concept? Israel isn't just another country. Israel has no reason for being if it is not a Jewish country. It serves the purpose of being the only guaranteed safe haven for Jews. If you don't understand why Jews think that's necessary, then you don't understand what's happening in the Middle East. This is why there will be no right of return for Palestinians to Israel proper. Besides the security issue of having a large antagonistic population share your country, there are the demographic, cultural, religious, and political issues where, because it is a democracy, the country can be taken over and it's character changed from what it was originally intended. This is cultural suicide. There are people who think this is a good thing. They are Palestinians who would benefit directly, and Liberals who think in terms of the polyglot, and multicultural societies they are familiar with. However, this has little or nothing to do with a situation where two nations are squabbling over the same real-estate and it's a life or death situation for one or both of them. It is unfortunate that there were people living in Palestine when England and the United States so graciously ceded it to the survivors of the Holocaust, but there were. There " were." That's the operative word. They haven't lived there since before the last half of the last century yet you make it seem like last year. Why are YOU comfortable living on Indian land? Why don't some of you give up your homes to the Mexican families of the Southwest whose lands your ancestors stole, chiseled, and started wars for? Why don't you give up your home to a nice Indian or Mexican family and get the hell back to Europe where you came from? It's real big of you to feel self righteous about expecting that from someone else when you don't even think about doing it yourself. Why don't you clean your own house before you stick your nose into some body else's business half a world away. Why the Palestinians are reviled for objecting to the loss of their country I do not know. The Palestinians' objections are completely justified. I do know why they are killed for objecting to the loss of their country. Not exactly. They are killed for warring because of the loss of their country. Those that don't war don't die. It will go on until someone finally comes up with a method to kill them all. Ridiculous. You're pretty lame if you think that is the only solution. Besides, Palestinians insured their existence in the same way that the Jews insured theirs, by living in many different places. They will object to the very end. There is no way out. The world might do well to back away and let the Israeli exercise their final solution. They probably would object to the very end. But let's see if Jews deal with their enemies better than white Christians have throughout their glorious history. Until then, hypocrites in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These
[CTRL] Fwd: WORLD EXCLUSIVE: The Secret Life of Gale Norton
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Wiccan Pseudohistory
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Johannes Schmidt III wrote: Actually, I believe originally the term 'merlin' was used as a title, and only became associated as a personal name due to the Arthurian legends. Somewhat akin to the names "Don" and "Donna", which originally were titles of Spanish nobility (e.g., "Don Juan", "Donna (or Dona with the squiggle over the 'n') Maria"), but later were used as 'Christian' names in and of themselves. Sure, but the name itself is a 'male' name. Is it French? I don't think it's Hebrew. Maybe from Greek? Since we only see it in the Arthurian legend, presumably the term has a Celtic basis... The term originally meant a wise person, like a wizard, irregardless of the sex of the person referred to; a woman could be a merlin as readily as a man. It is only because one particular merlin who happened to be male was made famous in the Arthurian legend, that people like you came to equate it to a male Christian name... I could be called 'Magician Smith'...there is nothing in the name that should imply my genderit's the same with 'Merlin', it is a title that has evolved into a genderless name, on the same level as 'Robin' or 'Chris'... June *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] How it REALLY works: Best example EVER ! Why Gore defended Bush in the Senate.
-Caveat Lector- Well DUH??? Why would anybody expect something different? THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. They are BOTH part of our system of Plutocratic rule. The election was merely a contest for which gang of Plutocrats gets their man into the White House. IT IS NOT GORE'S JOB TO THREATEN THIS SYSTEM! If he did that, he would need to look for another line of work. He IS one of the Elites. It's HIS system that he is protecting. == MichaelP wrote: The Dems and their candidate have clear responsibility for NOT even trying to recover a stolen election. Recovering the stolen election would put the whole system under scrutiny, and ultimately leave it open to democratic change. THIS IS DANGEROUS AND UNACCEPTABLE TO OUR RULING ELITES. It has cost them much time and money to get our political system just right. Just the way it is. They would not gladly suffer anyone mucking about with it. I would also point out that it was the Blacks in the House of Reps who have the audacity to stir things up. But we must remember that those are merely the representatives of the people. The Founding Finaglers made sure that the most democratic institution was the weakest. On the other hand, Senators and Justices, once elected or appointed, are untouchable by the citizenry. Vice President (Senator) Gore did his job. I strongly urge anybody reading this, to see the video of what transpired. That picture is worth a thousand words. Joshua2 They will come round begging for forgiveness in a year or two, Michael agence france presse Sunday, January 7 4:03 AM SGT Congress confirms Bush victory after contentious session WASHINGTON, Jan 6 (AFP) - George W. Bush was officially declared winner of the 2000 US presidential election Saturday after Electoral College votes were counted and certified by Congress in a contentious session featuring a walkout by black lawmakers. Democratic Vice President Al Gore, who won a majority of the popular vote in the bitterly contested November 7 election, announced the result in his capacity as US Senate president, giving Bush 271 electoral votes to his 266, with one abstention. Bush's running mate Dick Cheney was declared vice president-elect by the same number of votes over Democrat Joe Lieberman. "I am honored," Bush said in Texas as the lawmakers gathered. "It's a humbling experience to become the president of this great land. And I want to reiterate what I said before: I'm going to be the president of everybody, whether they supported me or not. And people need to know that; people need to know that this is going to be an administration that will make decisions on what's best for America." The 538 electoral votes were cast December 18 in the 50 state capitals and the District of Columbia, the federal capital. Each state's vote was read and counted in alphabetical order in the joint session of Congress. A dozen members of the Congressional Black Caucus walked out of the mostly-empty House chamber as the votes were tallied after * Gore rejected their contest to the 25 electoral votes from the southeastern state of Florida. * [highlighted by me - J2] Presidential ballots in that state from the November 7 election were at the center of more than a month of bitter disputes over hand recounting of those which could not be read by voting machines. Gore was forced to concede defeat when the US Supreme Court barred recounting of the disputed ballots. Ironically, it was Gore who overruled challenges to the contested vote in Florida raised by members of the House of Representatives, because the objections had not been signed by a member of the Senate. "We have had our votes nullified, that's why we are so sad," Representative Carrie Meek, a Florida Democrat, said later at a news conference. "All that's left for us now as the Congressional Black Caucus and as citizens of this country is to exercise our First Amendment right while we still have it and before it is further undermined by a politically dominated Supreme Court. We exercised our right today to protest against this ill-chosen nomination," Meek said. Earlier, Peter Deutsch, another Democratic representative from Florida, was ruled out of order when he called for a quorum -- a procedural move to delay the proceeding. In all, 13 Democratic representatives -- most of them members of the black caucus -- objected to Florida's votes. However, none was able to gain support among the 100 senators for an objection to delay the count. Federal law requires the support of at least one member of each house of Congress before an objection to a state's electoral votes can be considered. "It's a sad day in America when we can't find a senator to sign these objections," Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois said, as Gore repeatedly pounded his gavel to silence him. Gore kept a tight rein
Re: [CTRL] Space Warfare j2
-Caveat Lector- John Cone wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message this date, Nurev writes: SPACE MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE MILITARIZED!!! BY ANYONE!!! Nurev _ Nakano replies: During World War I, in the early days of military aviation, airplanes were first used for observation and they were not armed. The pilots for the two sides would actually wave to each other as they flew around to view and photograph the lines of defense and deployments. Then the airmen began carrying pistols and rifles in their airplanes and they would take shots at the enemy aircraft. A little later, they began carrying bombs (some weighing up to 25 pounds), and hand dropping them on the enemy troops below. It wasn't long before airplanes became weapons of war. In the early days of the "Space Age", satellites were used for observation. Early manned spacecraft were not armed Bottom line is this: The militarization of space is already well underway and it will accelerate. It is inevitable. Regards Nakano Only death is inevetable. Everything else has varying degrees of likelyhood. Weapons in space are not inevetable. But they would sure like you to think so. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Elites ubber alles: The job of Elite institutions, is to protect corporations.
-Caveat Lector- When has it ever been clearer? The tobacco industry has killed more people than all the dictators of the 20th century combined. Yet under law, they were permitted, AND STILL ARE PERMITTED, to produce a product that kills and maims MILLIONS. The Supreme Court, and the Senate are charged with the task of protecting the elite rulers they work for, and especially the capitalist system which which keeps them rich and in control of all the important aspects of our lives. The solution? More democracy. No institution should EVER be beyond the reach of the society it is meant to serve. If the Supreme Court is populated by elite corrupt bastards, they should be able to be " retired " without perks and pensions by a public referendum , and their rulings should too. In the article below David Kessler says that the Supremes ' did not get it.' They got it. They were doing their job. Joshua2 for Nurev = By LAURAN NEERGAARD, Associated Press WASHINGTON (January 6, 2001 2:57 p.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) - Dr. David Kessler sat in the Supreme Court chamber and wanted to shout at the justices: Facing a landmark public health case -- a chance to curb addictive nicotine, they just did not get it, recalls the former Food and Drug Administration commissioner. His agency had uncovered proof tobacco companies manipulated nicotine to hook smokers and targeted minors to take up the habit. Yet the justices wondered aloud why the FDA should regulate tobacco by prohibiting marketing to teenagers, and asked if regulating adrenaline-pumping horror movies would be next. "'The evidence, that's what's different,' I wanted to shout," Kessler recalls. "Why didn't they understand that?" To the Supreme Court, "it was as if our investigation had never happened." Almost a year after the high court ruled that Congress never gave the FDA authority to regulate tobacco, Kessler has written a book chronicling the five-year investigation that uncovered some of industry's deepest secrets. It's a detective story, showing how a group of bureaucrats quietly crisscrossed the country piecing together evidence -- even discovering specially bred high-nicotine tobacco secreted from Brazil into U.S. cigarettes -- that forever changed how society views tobacco. The book, "A Question of Intent: A Great American Battle with a Deadly Industry," makes clear that the story is not over. Although the FDA's investigation helped spur state lawsuits that cost cigarette makers billions of dollars, millions of Americans remain hooked. "I had underestimated the enormous power of the industry," Kessler said in an interview, explaining why he wrote the book. "I don't think people know the extent to which their tentacles really reached." While Kessler still insists tobacco cannot be banned -- that would throw too many people into withdrawal -- he now advocates dismantling the industry. He envisions a special corporation to sell cigarettes without advertising or making any profit, thus removing the incentive to hook new smokers. "It has become apparent that nothing else will work," he writes. "Ultimately, cigarettes should be sold in brown paper wrappers, with only a brand name and a warning label." Tobacco companies had not seen Kessler's book, which is being published this week. But industry leader Philip Morris, which once bitterly fought the FDA's regulations, says today, "Tough and sensible FDA regulation of the industry is needed and should focus on such things as preventing kids from smoking." Kessler, now Yale University's dean of medicine, did not come to the FDA in 1990 even considering battling tobacco. Arriving admittedly naive, the bespectacled pediatrician led the nation's biggest consumer-protection agency through a series of crises, including drug tampering, food frauds, and how to speed approval of AIDS drugs. So at first, he said an employee's suggestion to take on tobacco was "crazy." But anti-smoking groups were pressuring the FDA. Then an agency lawyer noted, "Cigarette manufacturers can take the nicotine out, but they leave it in. That goes to the question of intent." The answer seemed plain: deliberately control or manipulate nicotine, and it is a drug the FDA could regulate. The investigation was on. A former Secret Service agent and an Army criminal investigator schmoozed skittish informants with code-names like "Deep Cough" into sharing industry secrets. Lawyers pored over internal industry documents that stated, "We are then in the business of selling nicotine, an addictive drug." They culled evidence from newspapers, lawsuits, and dusty U.S. Customs records that showed when that secret high-nicotine tobacco entered the country. Kessler, who left the agency in 1997, recalls when
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Wiccan Pseudohistory
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Johannes Schmidt III wrote: Well, if I were to name myself after, say, the Murray River you would probably assume Murray was a male. I would presume 'Murray' was someone's last name...geographical sites such as rivers are usually named for a person's last name rather than their first And so the Murray River could just as easily be named for Anne Murray... it is the monster he is named after- not the lake. ships and cars (and computers) are only feminine to men, aren't they? I thought it was an English convention. Do women refer to ships as being male? I don't refer to them as any sort of gender. Neither do I assign gender to cars, computers, or lakes. I think that is a male affectation... and anyway- johnnie and willie end in ie and are not at all feminine, willie in fact is another name for a penis. I would spell both with a 'y' on the end. In English, the 'ie' ending is more common for the William nickname, when applied to either a person or a male sexual organ. I can't remember when I have ever seen 'Willy'. As for the nickname for John, one sees Johnny and Johnnie about equally (Johnny Carson and Johnnie Cochran)...as one also sees Jimmy and Jimmie equally... And one commonly sees the male nicknames "Eddie" and "Robbie"...almost never see "Eddy" or "Robby"... June *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- That's Show Biz. - J2 Ha'aretz: Evacuated Palestinian "wounded" walked away overseas Aaron LernerDate: 5 January 2001 A senior security representative from a friendly state visited Israel last month and shared an interesting story. His country was shocked by the sight of the Palestinians wounded by IDF fire in the riots and volunteered to hospitalize scores of them. When they were brought off a plane the cameras filmed the wounded Palestinians on stretchers and in casts. Yet once they reached the hospital they removed their casts and were on their way, as healthy as their doctors. I do not know, wondered the foreigner, if this was just a propaganda ploy, or if under the casts hid wanted Palestinians who got away from Israel. Ha'aretz correspondent Amir Oren in the 5 January edition of Ha'aretz Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director IMRA (Independent Media Review Analysis) (mail POB 982 Kfar Sava) Tel 972-9-7604719/Fax 972-3-548-0092 INTERNET ADDRESS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pager 03-6750750 subscriber 4811 Website: http://www.imra.org.il A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WP: Cole Lapses May Go Unpunished
-Caveat Lector- Cole Lapses May Go Unpunished By Thomas E. Ricks Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, January 7, 2001; Page A02 The admiral overseeing the investigation of the actions of the captain and crew of the USS Cole when the warship was bombed three months ago in a Yemeni harbor has concluded that no one should be punished even though dozens of security lapses occurred, Pentagon officials said. Adm. Robert J. Natter rejected the conclusion of a lower-ranking investigating officer that some security precautions if taken could have mitigated the effects of the explosion of a small boat that killed 17 sailors and tore a 40-foot hole in the side of the destroyer as it was refueling in the port of Aden on Oct. 12. The Navy investigation found that at least 30 of 62 planned "force protection" measures weren't implemented by the Cole's crew. The investigating officer found that 20 of those omitted steps were irrelevant but concluded that at least 11 possibly could have stopped the attack or lessened its impact. Among the unexecuted steps he deemed crucial were a system of verifying the authenticity of small boats approaching the warship and having fire hoses ready to spray at boats that didn't properly identify themselves and wouldn't withdraw, one source said. Natter, the commander of the Atlantic fleet, agreed with a lower-ranking admiral who rejected that conclusion of the investigating officer. Instead, Natter, who is based in Norfolk, on Friday night sent to the Pentagon his recommendation that no one be disciplined. One apparent reason for Natter's conclusion is that the Navy believes that the actions of the Cole's skipper, Cmdr. Kirk S. Lippold, saved the ship from sinking. "The captain and his senior officers are heroes for what they did to save the ship," said one Pentagon official familiar with the Navy investigation but who nonetheless was critical of the Navy's inclination not to discipline anyone. The scuttlebutt among Cole crew members is that even though no disciplinary step is being recommended, the findings of the Navy report about security lapses will effectively end Lippold's career, said the wife of one crew member. Lippold didn't return calls seeking comment. Natter's conclusions are being reviewed over the weekend by the chief of naval operations, Adm. Vernon Clark, and Navy Secretary Richard Danzig, and are expected to be released this week. Navy officials said yesterday they thought Clark and Danzig would concur with Natter's finding that Lippold did all that he could, even though he didn't take many of the security precautions. Natter's report essentially says that Lippold acted correctly, given the information that was made available to him. That conclusion raises questions about what information he was given, and so points the finger at senior officers in the U.S. Central Command, the military headquarters that oversees operations in the Mideast. The actions of those higher-ups are the subject of a separate inquiry being conducted for the Defense Department by two retired senior officers, Adm. Harold W. Gehman and Gen. William W. Crouch, whose final report will be briefed to Defense Secretary William S. Cohen tomorrow or Tuesday. The Gehman-Crouch report has raised eyebrows within the Navy because it didn't find fault with any senior officers, only "lessons to be learned." The core conclusion of the Gehman-Crouch report, Pentagon officials said recently, was that the United States is engaged in a long-term struggle with international terrorism and that the U.S. military must be constantly prepared to come under attack, especially when it is in transit, as the Cole was when it steamed into Aden. Gehman and Crouch also suggest that the dozens of force protection measures taken after the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 U.S. servicemen and injured hundreds of others, may have indirectly led to the Cole attack by deterring terrorists from hitting land-based targets, forcing them to look elsewhere. Recently, Navy officials privately communicated their concern to Cohen's aides that only the captain and the crew of the Cole would be faulted in the bombing. In response, Cohen promised to have Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, review the actions of the Central Command's senior staff officers in the orders given to the Cole, a Pentagon official said. In particular, Shelton is expected to focus on why the Cole was sent alone into the harbor of a Middle Eastern nation known as a center of terrorist activity at a time when the region was in crisis. Most of Natter's recommendations were first reported in Saturday's editions of the Baltimore Sun. In addition, the Cole was told only to operate under "Threat Condition Bravo," the third-highest state of alert. Navy officials would like to know who made that determination, and what information was used to make it. If it was based on faulty
Re: [CTRL] American Anarchism / Libertarianism vs Socialism
-Caveat Lector- Socialism is not a form of government -- it's a relationship between people, one characterized by sharing. What the statists call "socialism" is just another form of oppression, state monopoly capitalism. REAL socialism is like Acts 2:44-46. It's voluntary, not imposed. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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WILLS' SEXY E-MAILS
PRINCE William and the beautiful niece of US President-Elect George W. Bush have
been sending each other a stream of sexy e-mails and letters.
The friendship with Lauren started as harmless teenage flirting but a friend of hers
said: They became very close pals and it was clear they had a serious crush on each
other.
The Bush family are favourites of the Windsors so William was completely relaxed
about it. He and Lauren felt they could be very open with each other.
Stunning Lauren Bush left her photo just where she knew Prince William would find
it...on the luxury yacht that he and Prince Charles would use to sail the Aegean
Sea.
The sleek vessel may have Alexander on its prow, but royal aides know it better as
The Love Boat.
For it was beneath her sails that Charles and Diana tried to patch up their
marriage. Now Lauren was struck by the romance of the occasion.
The blonde Vogue model, whose dad Neil is President-Elect George W Bushs younger
brother, was holidaying aboard the ship owned by Greek shipping tycoon John Latsis.
But when Lauren discovered that William and Prince Charles were due to be the
tycoon's next guests, she insisted on leaving a modelling portrait behind.
The moment Wills found it he sensed the opportunity for a bit of teenage fun. He
found Laurens address and, in return, sent a picture of himself to her in America.
Since that day, a unique friendship has blossomed between the President-Elects
niece and the most eligible bachelor in the world.
Pals of Lauren say they tried to meet up on her visits to London but never managed
it because Wills was at Eton. Still, they regularly write each other letters and
exchange flirty e-mails.
Shes the most glamorous member of America's most powerful political family and he
is from the oldest ruling monarchy in the world, the future king, said a delighted
Bush family friend.
If you were writing a romantic novel, you couldn't make up that sort of plotline
and be believed.
A friend of Laurens in Texas, added: The e-mails were very flirty and quite sexy
and the letters quite intimate. It would be fair to say they got a bit carried away
with the fun of it all.
This week 18-year-old William is expected to announce plans for the next stage of
his gap year between school and college. One of the options is a period in New York
working in fine art and antiques.
Its almost certain that theyll meet in some way when hes out there, said the
family friend.
Lauren is one of the most sought-after young models in America and has already
featured in Vogue magazine.
She is expected to dazzle at her uncle George Ws inauguration ball in Washington
later this month.
Texan Lauren, 16, well understands the world of power and influence that Wills has
also inherited. Some of her earliest memories are of her grandpa George Bush Snr
when he was president of the US.
I can remember sliding down the banisters at the White House when I was a kid
rolling up carpets with my 14 cousins and generally going on the rampage, she
smiled.
Friends of the Bush family are delighted that the pair made contact.
Prince William must have been about 16 when the first letters were exchanged, said
one. It was sweet. Theyre two kids having fun.
Her father Neil runs a computer software company and dotes on his daughters
success.
The Bush family friend added: If William comes over to the States Im sure Neils
brother George would be happy to meet him informally.
The Windsors and the Bushes are already firm friends from the time that Laurens
grandfather was President. The Queen feels quite at home with Americas new first
family.
George Bush Snr has a special affection for the British royals and always enjoyed
his time with them, said the Bush family pal.
He was always made very welcome by the Queen. Im sure the rest of Laurens family
will feel the same way.
Williams father Prince Charles will be among the first to meet the new President
Bush when he comes to Britain.
It would be just great if Lauren could come with the family, added the pal, but
its early days yet.
By CLIVE GOODMAN
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[CTRL] Wes676767: Hitchens-Powell's Secret Coup (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 14:51:32 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Hitchens-Powell's Secret Coup I guess I've already posted my daily allotment...damnit! Do you feel like forwarding this on for a pal?? If not that's cool too. Bill. ---end--- = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.thenation.com/docPrint.mhtml?i=20010122s=hitchens CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS Powell's Secret Coup: Minority Report The coronation of Colin Powell will probably not be interrupted by any of the specific questions about his mediocre and sometimes sinister past that were so well phrased by David Corn ["Questions for Powell," January 8/15]. The political correctness of the nomination, in both its "rainbow" and "bipartisan" aspects, will see to that. Powell has often defined himself as "a fiscal conservative and a social liberal," which also happens to be the core identity of the Washington press corps. Set against this, what is the odd war crime, or cover-up of same, or deception of a gullible Congress? Time to move on. To move on, to be exact, to the militarization of the State Department and the triumph of the military over civilian control. The most important moment in Powell's career as a Republican came in the first months of the first Clinton Administration, when he organized and led a political mutiny against the Commander in Chief and saw the mutiny succeed. It's "legacy" time, so everybody feels entitled to be stupidly lenient, but no consideration of Clinton as a President is complete until we take the full measure of his surrender on this critical point. He was elected, you may remember, having promised to lift the ban on homosexuals serving in the military and having promised to lift the embargo on the supply of arms to Bosnia. Nor were these mere "fine print" promises: The first had been front and center in his fundraising and campaigning, and the second had involved comparisons with the Final Solution, of the sort that can't easily be taken back. Within a few months of his swearing the oath that he was to break in so many ways, Clinton receded from both these pledges. In both instances, he caved in to a political revolt orchestrated by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Could I put you to the trouble of rereading that brief last sentence? The first cold war presidency began with Harry Truman putting the military in its constitutional place on matters foreign and domestic, firing Gen. Douglas MacArthur for trying to run a private war in Korea and telling the armed! f! ! orces to desegregate and to do it right away. The first post-cold war presidency began with an abject surrender to the brass, on the treatment of an unpopular minority and on an important foreign policy question. The comparison is even more appalling when you remember that Truman did not base his two best decisions on election pledges. Colin Powell would not have been able to enjoy his long career as a butt-kisser and timeserver had Truman not told the Joint Chiefs to obey orders and desegregate. However, weeks after Clinton was elected and eight days before he was inaugurated, Powell appeared before the Naval Academy and enjoined his audience to consider resigning if they opposed an end to the ban on gays in the military. Not long before that, he had written and signed an Op-Ed in the New York Times flatly opposing military intervention in the Balkans (at least on the Bosnian side; the existing arms embargo already favored Milosevic and Tudjman). Clinton, of course, could not buckle fast enough. He allowed himself--and his pathetic Defense Secretary, Les Aspin--to be humiliated in public on visits to United States warships [see "Minority Report," April 12, 1993]. He left the Bosnians at the mercy of Milosevic for two crucial years. He allowed the USS Harlan County to be scared away from Haiti by a handful of CIA-financed goons. And he came up with the contemptible policy of "don't ask, don't tell," where the police questioning and invigilation and intimidation still went on--even increased--and where volunteer servicemen and -women were told their only hope lay in lying. Not even this was enough to satisfy Powell. On the day of his retirement as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, he was humbly asked by Clinton what he thought of Aspin, and Powell replied that the poor sap had forfeited the confidence of the armed forces. The President, Powell calmly said, might want to consider replacing him. No sooner suggested than done. This would qualify as gross insubordination in any self-respecting democracy (Powell should not have been asked;
[CTRL] Fwd: Right-Wing Foundations U.S. Politics
http://www.globalpolicy.org/finance/docs/buymvmnt.htm The following excerpt from a report by People for the American Way provides information about the funding sources of conservative organizations that have backed the anti-UN movement in the US Congress. Buying A Movement: Right Wing Foundations in American Politics A Report By People for the American Way Executive Summary Each year, conservative foundations pour millions of dollars into a broad range of conservative political organizations. These foundation gifts are remarkable for two principal reasons:first, their sheer size and concentration; second, the willingness of the foundations to promote a highly politicized agenda by funding a broad range of organizations. The following report examines the funding patterns of a number of significant conservative foundations and their grantees. The report demonstrates: *Right-wing foundations have developed a truly comprehensive funding strategy, providing grants to a broad range of groups, each promoting right-wing positions to their specific audiences. The grants have created and nurtured an enormous range of organizations all bent on promoting a far-right-wing agenda. Recipients of foundation largesse include the right-wing media; national "think tanks" and advocacy groups; a budding network of regional and state-based think tanks; conservative university programs; conservative college newspapers; conservative scholars and more. In many of these funding areas, progressive and mainstream foundation giving lags far behind. *Five foundations stand out from the rest:the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, the Koch Family foundations, the John M. Olin Foundation, the Scaife Family foundations and the Adolph Coors Foundation. Each has helped fund a range of far- right programs, including some of the most politically charged work of the last several years. For example, the American Spectatormagazine, which led the charge on President Bill Clinton's state trooper contretemps and launched a slash-and-burn strategy targeting Anita Hill, is a prime recipient of foundation support. *Public debate on a number of issues has been transformed by foundation largesse. For example, the Wisconsin-based Bradley Foundation has supported a range of pro- voucher efforts in its home state, sowing the seeds for that state's first-in-the-nation school vouchers program in Milwaukee. Other such case studies are presented in the report. * * * Part Two:The Givers While any number of foundations contribute to conservative political groups, five are worthy of particular examination:the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, the Koch Family foundations, the John M. Olin Foundation, the Scaife Family foundations and the Adolph Coors Foundation. Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation illustrates the power of a well-financed foundation with a clearly articulated political and ideological vision. With assets exceeding $420 million,123it is one of the nation's largest supporters of conservative thought and activity.124 Lynde Bradley and his brother Harry made their fortunes by founding the Allen- Bradley company, producing electronic and radio components. Harry Bradley was an active member of the John Birch Society and a contributor to the National Review. The Bradley company's foundation did not become a major donor until 1985, when Allen- Bradley was bought by Rockwell International Corporation, an aerospace and defense industry conglomerate. As a result of the sale, the foundation, as the sole recipient of a Bradley trust, increased its assets to $290 million.125 Bradley Foundation president Michael Joyce is a key figure in conservative giving circles and beyond. He is the former president of the Olin Foundation and is chairman of the Philanthropy Roundtable, established to help conservative foundations and corporations coordinate their activities and strategy. The Roundtable has been instrumental in the creation of a nationwide network of state-based "think tanks" 126more devoted to issue advocacy than policy analysis. No such network of state think tanks exists with a mainstream, liberal, or progressive orientation. The Bradley Foundation provides major funding to the sponsors of what has come to be one of the right's most powerful communications weapons:National Empowerment Television (NET).127Sponsored by Paul Weyrich's Free Congress Foundation, NET can be found in millions of cable homes, pumping an unrelenting and unapologetic stream of far-right and Religious Right dogma. NET has provided programming time for dozens of far-right organizations, including the Christian Coalition, Concerned Women for America, the National Rifle Association, Accuracy in Media, the Eagle Forum and the Family Research Council. Another national media source receiving Bradley support is the American Spectator Educational Foundation, publisher of the far- rightAmerican Spectator. The publication is best
[CTRL] Fwd: God
SO FREDAND anyone interested - two items here re the many breasted Diana which was a statue the old Hells Fire Club worshipped.when you think Illuminati, some thing "big boobs"making mountains out of mole hillsbut these devils are today's Illuminati/Bohemian Club without a doubt. Now Acts 19 is a very important clue..key to sabotage of Apollo.and murder of little Princess of Wales and book burning, where there were no books then of couse and this craft that came to naught Masonic stuff, of coursebut masons come in many different colors and fly many different colors..was told once that masonic hand grip (and FBI has own hand grip and KKK does too and Mafia and FBI grip let us say, are same?_ Takes one to know one? ) Anyway I was told this handgrip was necessary to recognize each other in the dark? So - ever hear of the Man Will Never Fly Cluband consider the genius of a Franklin and the Hells Fire Club - these men were the intelligensia of the dayHigh IQ.s and men of vision. So can one hundred million people keep a secret? And this print I have, as I said over 200 years old - I treasure it, but the Rosicruian lamp illuminates the faces of the boys - most of whom are crocked out of their mindssuch sweet faces - to bad Franklin (Benjamin) was not there that day... Boys will be boys - but our intelligensia is so infiltrated today - and the worst enemy we have in the great state of Israel who sent in a floosie to disgrace our President...and I will never forget the USS LIberty, and knew one CO at Andrews AFB years ago that wanted to go to war over ittoo bad we did not. Saba Help Results for: Many Breasted Diana 2 sites found Results 1 - 2 ephesus The many-breasted Diana embodies the abundance of the Goddess. Her temple, on the coast of Asia Minor, was called one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. Diana: Scala / Art Resource God The Apostle Paul wrote these words to His brethren in Christ, at Corinth, a great city which was infamous in the Old World for sexual immorality. The people of this city worshipped the idol-goddess Venus, called ... Results 1 - 2 So Fred - the following is reproduced from another page - but Acts 19 is a key to murder, sabotage and the color purple, shall we say - and inclue Acts 16 for the political propagandist who made her master rich by her gainsaying.or whatever...this is Russian Mafia/KGB stuff - and today Russia and in US persecution of Christians begins.and Moslems...and we have ADL and Dees putting Moslems, Christians and Militia on FBI hate lists...so who bombed the USS Liberty - the Israelies.and who bombed the USS Cole - why an American was behind it it is said. There are programmed killers walking about and we have the enemy withinthey want to destroy the old rich and replace it with one world religion - and who is playing God? Well how man Godfathers are there anyway? Bohemian Club is American intelligensia and they better watch their p's and q's and find the enemy within. This is Mafia taking over - remember the Chicago 7 and the Black Panthers - the Communist New Aristocracy? The USA must control space - the KGB sabotaged the Apollo - you think they would let Werner von Braun take his share of glory for getting USA to moon first? Many red necks running about and I do not mean southerners..these are alien reds and no from outer space - are from Russia with Love. Saba Type a word, phrase or web address For best results, be specific. More search tips http://www.users.bigpond.com/bibleweb/Gospel/TruthAbout/TA53.htm
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: God
-Caveat Lector- Last letter re Hells Fire club sent to CTRL in error was meant for Rich Slick... A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: God
-Caveat Lector- What are you talking about? I missed the point. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Wiccan Pseudohistory/Nessie
-Caveat Lector- On 7 Jan 01, at 2:08, Johannes Schmidt III wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:03:33 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Jan 01, at 14:13, Johannes Schmidt III wrote: But I'm sure that those who feel Merlin Stone is a man also believe that Nessie is a woman... ;-) Nessie is a feminine name, it ends in a 'ie'. Of course it could well be a usage of such male names as Nestor. Similarly it could come from Vanessa. I don't know. i don't really care. Nessie certainly carries on like an old woman sometimes. Funny, my association with the name "Nessie" is that old Loch Ness monster. Something hidden in the deep that may or may not really exist. A mystery. Nessie, what are you hiding from us. sno0wl The central question is whether the Loch Ness Monster (alleged) is male or female. I tend to assume 'she' is considered female like a ship. But for all I know it is probably asexual as a result of the prehistoric UFO surgery which allowed it to live for so long and avoid all those pesky radars etc. I'm pretty certain that Merlin Stone is a woman. Did you know that Giardano Bruno was burned at the stake in 1600 by the Church for, among other things, agreeing with Gallileo and insisting that there were infinite other worlds. Much brilliant science fiction has been written around this concept. In fact, I am currently reading such a book which has won many, many literary awards-- a series, actually, of which the first book is called The Golden Compass. One of those children's books "or all ages." A marvelous adventure. If there is a portal near me, I do hope I find it. Also, my dogs announce the arrival of just about anyone who's coming here before their car turns the corner. So I guess they know something I don't know. I respect that they are trying to tell me things, even when I can't grasp just what that might be. But, yeah, I'd say we communicate psychically. Or, at least, they do and I am uusually a bit denser, but striving to get better at it. There is much scholarly evidence to suggest that springs in Britain and Europe that were once sacred to the Goddess or goddesses were later used as sites for churches when the local folks could not be disuaded from worship there. In fact, Mary had to be elevated to accommodate beliefs that just wouldn't go away. I am not prepared to site my sources since I did my research many years ago. However, apart from the authors Nessie suggests there is also Robert Graves "The White Goddess" and an incredibly well- documented book by a late Florida librarian called The First Sex. In doing my research, I followed her notes and bibliography. It's all out there. sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: God
-Caveat Lector- Sorry Carl - this item was for another list and in error sent to CTRL. Here is the one item - relating to old Hells Fire Club and their worship of the statue of Diana the many breasted mentioned in Acts 19gentleman from another list was to receive this info but I reproduceit is all symbolism of Bohemian Club, etc. Saba Interesting item anyway - GOD Back to The Truth About ... " this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ , whom thou hast sent.". (John 17:3) MANY GODS AND LORDS: " .we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth (as there be gods many and lords many), But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge". (1 Corinthians 8:4-7) The Apostle Paul wrote these words to His brethren in Christ, at Corinth, a great city which was infamous in the Old World for sexual immorality. The people of this city worshipped the idol-goddess Venus, called Aphrodite by the Romans, and the one thousand 'priestesses' of those gods, supposedly rewarded them with their favours! At Ephesus Paul encountered the many-breasted 'Diana of the Ephesians'. At Athens he found many altars to many gods, one of which was to "The UnknownGod", (Acts 17:16-24). The Romans, the Greeks and other nations, all had their own gods, but none of these 'gods' was able to deliver their devotees from their sins or from death. Though writing by inspiration of God, Paul also had first-hand experience of many of those 'called gods', and 'gods many and lords many'. Paul was a Christian Jew and from his intimate knowledge of the Jewish Scriptures, (which we know as the Old Testament), as well as by inspiration of God, he could say, "but to us there is but one God, the Father". From his encounter with the risen Lord Jesus on the road to Damascus, he came to know Him as "Lord" .'Master or ruler'. (Acts 9:1-16) Though the world of our day is quite different from that of the 1st. century, yet spiritually, things are basically the same. Around the world today, many 'gods' are still worshipped, immorality is still rampant, many 'lords' are still acknowledged, and countless numbers of people still think that their 'god', whether called the 'Trinity', 'Brahma', 'Allah', or whatever, is the only god.. But they do not know the God whom the Lord Jesus called "My Father" and "the one true God". THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUE GOD: The Lord Jesus and the Apostle Paul called "God", the "Father". (1 Cor. 8:7 John 17:3). Paul's words in Acts 17:17-34, attempted to correct the false worship of the Athenians, who yet considered themselves to be very 'religious' and very wise. Paul's' words to the Athenians are still able to correct the many false ideas about God which exist in our day. God is called " The Father" because He created all things which have their continued existence through His Spirit-Power. If He were to withdraw His Spirit, His creative, sustaining power, and His breath, everything would perish. We humans would immediately return to DUST. (See Genesis 3:19; Ecclesiastes 3:20). God is our Creator and, "our Father who art in heaven". THE NAME OF GOD: When God sent Moses to lead the Children of Israel out of Egypt, Moses knew, because the Father had told, that they would ask him, "What is God's Name"? Thus God revealed His Covenant Name as " I AM THAT I AM". (Exodus 3:14). This translation has not adequately translated the Hebrew word. 'EHYEH', the first person, imperfect (future continuous) tense of the 'verb to be'. "I WILL BE" is a more accurate translation, as the Revised Version 'note' suggests. God, who is Love, will continue always to give of Himself to help and save others, especially His Covenant people. However, when Moses spoke about God, he must say," HE WILL BE", (Hebrew YHWH, thought to be pronounced Yahweh). If it is asked, "What will God be?", the answer is, "HE WILL BE the deliverer of His people, the Children of Israel" (Exodus 3:8-10, 17). However, God's promises to continually deliver Israel, His Covenant people, is only a part of His larger plan to continually save all who trust Him. God's name promises His continuing great work of manifesting Himself as a Saviour, delivering without distinction all who put their faith and confidence in Him. God's Name not only promises to deliver the Jewish people. It promises He would become a World-Savior. At the end of The Millennium, (See Truth About The Millennium), God will save all nations and the earth will be filled with the glory of God.( See Numbers 14:21; Hab. 2:14). Through the Lord Jesus Christ and His glorified brethren, God will save first Israel, His chosen and covenanted people, then all mankind, from sin, disease and death. God's Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, will
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: God
-Caveat Lector- By the way Carl - did you take your name from Moby Dick - Captain Ahab, who was alleged member of the assassins? The one assassin or would be assassin of George Wallace, had as first diary entry - you know the killers always have a diary and literatuare laying about for convenience of FBI, etcbut his words in his diary were "Call Me Ishmael". Am curious, how did you take name Ahab - you kow something we do not know? Thanks Carl and sorry for confusion re other letter sent in error. Saba A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: God
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/7/01 11:57:44 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way Carl - did you take your name from Moby Dick - Captain Ahab, while I love that book, I take the name for its Aramaic translation: An unrelenting force who's time has come. Carl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: God
-Caveat Lector- Aramaic Carl? Please explain why you time as comereally interesting. Saba Searching for great white whale you are not, the great Leviathon? So what do you seek? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: God
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/7/01 12:03:18 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please explain why you time as comereally interesting. LOL, My time has long gone. It refers to my style of Debate. Long ago in collage I was considered the Genghis Kahn of Oxford style debating. Carl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: God
-Caveat Lector- Okay like that - Ghengis Khan with Oxford Accent? So Carl - Cheers. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clinton Says Goodbye to U.S. Troops
-Caveat Lector- Well done Samantha, but there's more Behalf Of Samantha L. http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/24/pentagon.budget/ exerpt Last year, the administration proposal was $267 billion. Congress added almost $5 billion to that to bring the total to $272.4 billion for fiscal year 2000, for a total increase of $9.8 billion, or 3.75 percent. This did not include supplemental appropriations to cover the cost of operations in Bosnia and Kosovo. This year's proposed $291 billion is an increase of 6.83 percent. The last time the Pentagon received so large an increase in its budget was in 1983, when the defense budget went up 7.4 percent to $239 billion. In 1999 inflation-adjusted dollars that would be equal to $383 billion. Catch-up Funding might be the reason for such a large increase. I also find it hard to believe Clinton was strapped for eight years with Bush's Defense Budget. Read on http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/24/pentagon.budget/ excerpt (same article continued) In this election year, the proposal could draw charges of playing politics. Republican presidential candidates have criticized the Clinton administration for underfunding the military and causing what they called a resulting decline in readiness. One of Republican presidential hopeful John McCain's campaign themes is restoring military spending. And George W. Bush, who advocates "clear-eyed realism" in foreign policy, says he will set national defense as the "first focus" of a Bush administration should he be elected. Both hopefuls have come down hard on Clinton's dealings with the military budgets during his administration. "There is almost no relationship between our budget priorities and a strategic vision," Bush says. "The last seven years have been wasted in inertia and idle talk." McCain backs increased defense spending, claiming that "not since Pearl Harbor has our investment in national defense been so low as a percentage of our gross national product." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Would you strip to beat a DWI ticket?
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 00:46:34 -0700 MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- http://www.msnbc.com/news/MSNBCCABLE_Front.asp http://www.msnbc.com/news/512352.asp MSNBC SURVEY: Would you accept a DWI arrest or take off your clothes? Considering that a DUI in this state costs about $1500 PLUS the possible forfeiture of your vehicle, I'd not only strip, but I'd dance too. However, as I am an over 50 white male I don't think that would go over well. I might get "confinement for observation" at the local psych ward. Women get all the breaks. Jayson A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 93 Christians Killed For Not Coverting to Islam
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 20:41:28 -0800 Cliff Hume [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- When you are checking out you history of Christianity, also look for the numbers of people who have been turned away from Christianity for the atrocities perpetrated in the name of religion or faith. Millions of people belong to churches who listen to and believe the pastors or preachers, or whatever name they might be called, but the majority of them are turning people away from Christianity. Some of those who are preaching from the pulpits are socialists and communists, the difference between the two being nil. Most of the preachers are pretty right wing republicans. I don't get the impression that they are either communist or socialist. Isn't the Religious Right the driving force in the republican party? The churches which operate with a government sanctioned, tax-free status, should be suspect, because the minute they begin to teach and preach the truth, their free ride at the expense of the tax-payers is canceled. Of course, the tax thing is a whole new topic to cover, because it is an illegal, 'voluntary' scam, enforced by criminal governments. Yours very truly, Cliff Hume. Every time I bring this up in public there is a dead silence. How can churches get away with running for profit schools, factories, rentals, and such and not pay taxes? The Organized Chruches in this country are vastly rich, and getting ever richer. Yet they do not pay taxes. Jayson A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Would you strip to beat a DWI ticket?
-Caveat Lector- Ah Jayson, I would strip for 15 million dollars - two different women now sue for 15 million each...if this was the man and he was a policeman, wonder if someone did not make a deal. Now this alleged officer, was he on duty? Was he a real policeman? What a set up - who are these ladies - well wonder someone had not set up a camera in advance - like Rodney King and Zapruder film.. Did anybody see these "ladies" walking home in the cold in that condition? 15 million dollars? Yes I think for 15 million dollars I would oben an officers commandand split 50/50 with him after the suit is filed. Were any of these ladies prostitutes? Soundns like a scene from that Stern's show not too long ago where this woman was paid to go into streets in - well almost nothing. Even playboy doesn't pay that much. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Would you strip to beat a DWI ticket?
-Caveat Lector- "Jayson R. Jones" wrote: Would you accept a DWI arrest or take off your clothes? Considering that a DUI in this state costs about $1500 PLUS the possible forfeiture of your vehicle, I'd not only strip, but I'd dance too. However, as I am an over 50 white male I don't think that would go over well. I might get "confinement for observation" at the local psych ward. Women get all the breaks. Not necessarily. Here in Canada it was the practice of some police to drive Native Canadians out of the city in the cold winter months and make them walk home - unfortunately, one died on this 'sobering' experience. Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Re (CTRL) Where are the Democrats?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/06/2001 1:19:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judging from the lovefest we saw between the parties yesterday, the Democrats do appear to have reduced themselves to simpering, obedient political lap dogs for the Republicans to kick around. Senator Diane Feinstein even spoke of "a renewed warmth and bipartisanship". Excuse me? Gephardt mumbled about "meeting our friends across the aisle halfway". What the hell is he talking about? You're absolutely right. That's why I say we need to see Clinton indicted. We want to keep the Democrats (not the so called Dems in Congress) stirred up and fighting. The only way to do that is to recirculate the Clinton/Lawinsky/Jones/Broderick stuff. That ought to do it. It only has to last two years until the next election for members of the House and Senate. I figure if they stay angry, they'll get out and vote. That should get the Dems back in control. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Re (CTRL) Fwd Bessie Smith
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/06/2001 7:46:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Absolutely untrue. She was being driven to a gig in Louisiana and was s;eeping with her arm partially out the car window in the wee hours of the monring when her car sideswiped a truck, ripping her arm loose from it's socket. She bled to death. Her driver was reported in the black press to be urned away from a white hospital in Mississippi but biographer Chris Albertson says she was not turned away but was DOA. The definitive bio on her is "Bessie" by Chris Albertson. Caveat Lector- This is very interesting, because I remember reading about this years ago. I really don't recall the author of the book, but the individual who was quoted was supposedly with her, and spoke very sadly about being turned away and then it's being too late by the time they got her to another hospital. Apparently not only times change, but facts as well. Whatever. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Re (CTRL) Fwd Wiccan Pseudohistory
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/06/2001 7:06:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'Wise Women' etc. were nothing more than the quacks and faith healers we have today. There is no evidence that they were part of an organised religion or that they worshipped any particular non-Christian deity Perhaps not, but what made Ms. Gouge's story so amusing was that one of the "White Witches" approached her best friend's father who happened also to be a vicar. She told him that it was necessary for a woman to teach a man, and a man to teach a woman when transferring the powers. She went to him and told him that she had looked over all the men in their parish (it appears she attended church every Sunday), and that he was the most "good." For that reason she wished to teach him her spells and incantations. When he told her that he could never participate in such things because he was a Christian minister and was forbidden to do such things, she left in tears. Apparently she had never felt the least adversarial to the Christian God. Since I consider God omnipotent, I've occasionally wondered about that myself. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Re (CTRL) Fwd Bessie Smith
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/06/2001 7:46:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ows--blacks portrayed only as butlers, maids, gardeners--more stereotyping as they were also teachers, professionals, etc. So please tell me how JUST PRUDY was singled out from literally millions to be threatened for employing a black man? We weren't employing a black man. This was a fellow military man with whom my husband worked. No one in the South minded if you employed black men as long as they did not eat with you. We weren't singled out. Others had been warned. I recall a paper, the house organ of the White Citizen's Council, that my husband's uncle took to Pennsylvania with him to show the other folks at the Grange. That particular paper advised people not to buy Chevrolets because Dinah Shore had black entertainers on her show, and not to buy think it was Fords, Lincolns or Mercuries, because Ed Sullivan had black entertainers on his show. It also spoke of Talullah Bankhead as "That traitoress to the Southland," and mentioned Eleanor Roosevelt in dire terms as she had spent the night at the local college (which was a black institution). I'm sure there were other articles, but it's been about 40 years, and I really can't recall them all. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] For Ms. Harper, 1/6/01
-Caveat Lector- you may believe it is allegorical- but there are solid plans to rebuild the temple physically by israel. stop misleading people with your monotheistic rubbish. : - Original Message - From: "Vera Harper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 January 2001 12:14 Subject: Re: [CTRL] For Ms. Harper, 1/6/01 -Caveat Lector- Excuse me, Mr. Kansan, but Pat Robertson does not believe in the rebuilding of the temple. Any one with any real understanding of the Bible knows that the prophesy of the third temple refers to the body of Christ. All things prophetic became spiritual after Christ. Stop misleading people with your "secrets" that you have made up in your own mind. Kansan wrote: Similarly, people like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell are under the control of satanic Zionism to promote the greatest CLuM project of all, the re-building of Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem. From CBNnow web-based E-mail, part of the growing CBNnow web presence. CBNnow, your source for news, information, and inspiration in the new millenium. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has America lost its Goodness?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/07/2001 12:27:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: America will not be saved by talk of lower taxes, health care and Social Security reform. America is dying for want of morality! The cultural acceptance of abortion-on-demand and sexual perversity is eating the life out of our nation like a cancer. I wonder what DeTocqueville would say about America today? Why is sex the only thing that strikes you as immoral? In the America of older times, whole families of children were taken in by neighbors if their parents died. Widows received food, fuel and other help from neighbors if it was needed. The old were kept in the homes and maintained; so were the mentally and physically afflicted. Hungry people were given food. Sick people were helped and treated by neighbors and doctors who could only hope for remuneration. Neighbors helped each other with the plowing, the planting and the harvesting. If a woman died in childbirth and the baby lived, a neighbor woman might volunteer to nurse the child along with her own. In other words, people cared for and helped people. That is the goodness that DeTocqueville was talking about. It was unlikely that he spent his time dwelling on the possibility that women were having abortions or that there was homosexuality loose in the land. In this day, when neighbors are only concerned about controlling the actions of their neighbors and trying to amass the most "stuff," there is every possibility that DeTocqueville would believe that "goodness" has been lost. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Wall Street Journal Calls for Clinton's Indictment
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/07/2001 12:28:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The nation's most influential business daily became the first newspaper in the country on Friday to call for the indictment of the president of the United States, in a stinging editorial that argued he had given prosecutors no other choice. "[President Clinton] is manifestly guilty of perjury in his Paula Jones testimony, but even today clings to the 'what the meaning of the word is, is' defense," said the Wall Street Journal about the president's effort to cover up the scandal that ultimately led to his impeachment. You bet, and I'm all for it. We need the continued agitation if we're ever going to get the Dems riled enough to remember that they have to vote whatever Republicans who are vulnerable out of office in two years. The very best way is for Clinton to be indicted. He won't like it, but I don't care. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Court frees Limone after 33 years in prison
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/07/2001 12:29:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The documents also suggest that FBI agents not only covered up evidence that Limone and three other men were wrongly convicted in order to protect Flemmi and his gangster brother, Stephen - an FBI informant for nearly 30 years - but also knew about the Deegan murder plot in advance and did nothing to stop it. Well, you know how it is with our FBI. They're really good at this kind of thing. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skepticism About Crash Grows
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/07/nyregion/07PLAN.html New York Times | 7 Dec. 2001 As Search Continues for Plane, Skepticism About Crash Grows By SHERRI DAY A day after witnesses said they saw a small single-engine airplane go down into the Hudson River and sink, searchers last night still had found no evidence of a crash and had not received any report of a missing plane. That lack of information contributed to mounting skepticism among the police that a plane crash had, in fact, occurred. About 8:30 a.m. Friday two women who were driving into Manhattan across the George Washington Bridge called the police to say that they had seen a plane fly low over the bridge. They said the plane, which appeared to be a white Cessna with blue stripes, glided onto the river south of the bridge and then sank. Two people on the ground later also told the police that they had seen a small plane go into the Hudson. Police officials said that about 2 p.m. yesterday the search operation, which at one time included helicopters and scuba divers, had been scaled back to two harbor boats. Earlier in the day, the search was extended to Weehawken, N.J., some four miles south of the initial search area, after a man there said he had seen large pieces of debris floating down the river. As of early evening, police officials said, that siting still had not been confirmed. Since the police have been unable to uncover any evidence debris or an oil slick that would suggest a crash, officials said that they were increasingly doubtful that the witnesses actually saw a plane go down, especially because authorities were on the scene within 10 minutes of receiving the initial call. "We're optimistic that there was no plane crash," said Sgt. Brian Burke, a police spokesman, who added that if a plane had crashed during the morning rush, more people on the bridge and surrounding highways most likely would have seen the accident and called 911. But since the accounts of the shoreline witnesses were similar to the women in the car, Sergeant Burke said, the police were proceeding as if a plane had entered the water. The Federal Aviation Administration's radar records were also a factor in maintaining the search, he said, because they confirmed the presence of a plane in the vicinity at the time. The plane, flying in an area not monitored by air traffic controllers, dropped below the radar's scanning range three miles south of the bridge. But Leigh Russo, one of the women on the bridge who reported the plane had gone down, said she was positive about what she saw. "I don't understand why they feel doubtful that there's a plane in the water, because there's a plane in the water," she said in a telephone interview from her home in Dumont, N.J. "I just know that we were very concerned that somebody was down in that water." Ms. Russo, who is a human resources and labor director for a retail company, said she, too, was surprised that more people had not seen the plane go into the water. "We're baffled as to why nobody else saw it except us," she said. "But we saw it, and there's somebody down there somewhere." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Markets 'R' Us: Business is the new religion
-Caveat Lector- New Statesman [www.newstatesman.co.uk] 8 January 2001 Cover story - The New Statesman Essay - Markets 'R' Us Business is the new religion; in an extraordinary historical reversal, those who oppose it are arrogant elitists, frustrating the people's will. By Thomas Frank In 1998, a commercial for IBM's Lotus division danced across American television screens to the tune of REM's Nietzschean anthem, "I Am Superman". As throngs of humanity went about their business, a tiny caption asked: "Who is everywhere?" In response, IBM identified itself both with the people and with the name of God as revealed to Moses: the words "I Am" scrawled roughly on a piece of cardboard and held aloft from amid the madding crowd. The questions continued, running down the list from omnipresence to omniscience and omnipotence - "Who is aware?", "Who is powerful?" - while scenes of entrepreneurial achievement pulsated by: an American business district, a Chinese garment factory, a microchip assembly room, and the seat of divine judgement itself, the trading floor of the New York Stock Exchange. "I can do anything," sang a winsome computer voice. If there was something breathtaking about this particular bit of corporate autodeification, there was also something remarkably normal about it. Americans had already made bestsellers of books such as God Wants You to be Rich and Jesus, CEO. "The Market's Will be Done" was the title that Tom Peters, guru of gurus, chose for a chapter of his bestselling 1992 management book, while the techno-ecstatic Kevin Kelly, in his Out of Control (1994), referred to his list of "new economy" pointers as "The Nine Laws of God". What the term new economy really describes is not some novel state of human affairs but the final accomplishment of the long-standing agenda of the richest class. Once, Americans imagined that economic democracy meant a reasonable standard of living for all - that freedom was only meaningful once poverty and powerlessness had been overcome. Today, American opinion leaders seem convinced that democracy and the free market are simply identical. There is little that is new about this idea, either: for nearly a century, equating the market with democracy was the familiar defence of any corporation in trouble with union or government. What is new is this idea's triumph over all its rivals; the determination of American leaders to extend it to all the world; the belief among opinion-makers that there is something natural, something divine, something inherently democratic about markets. Wherever one looked in the 1990s, entrepreneurs were occupying the ideological space once filled by the labour movement. It was businessmen who were sounding off against the arrogance of elites, railing against the privilege of old money, waging a relentless war on hierarchy. They were market populists, adherents of the most powerful political mythology of the age. Their fundamental faith was a simple one. The market and the people were essentially one and the same. By its very nature, the market was democratic, perfectly expressing the popular will through the machinery of supply and demand, poll and focus group, superstore and internet. In fact, the market was more democratic than any of the formal institutions of democracy - elections, legislatures, government. The market was infinitely diverse, permitting without prejudice the articulation of all tastes and preferences. Most importantly of all, the market was militant about its democracy. It had no place for snobs, for hierarchies, for elitism, for pretence. As the Newsweek columnist Robert Samuelson said in 1998, "the market 'R' us". Whatever the appearances, it acted always in our interests, on our behalf, against our enemies. This is how the New York Stock Exchange, long a nest of privilege, could be understood in the 1990s as a house of the people; how any niche marketing could be passed off as a revolutionary expression - an empowerment, even - of the demographic at which it was aimed. Market populism was just the thing for a social order requiring constant doses of legitimacy. It builds all manner of populist fantasies: of businessmen as public servants, of industrial and cultural production as a simple reflection of popular desire, of the box office as a voting booth. By consuming the fruits of industry, we the people are endorsing the industrial system, voting for it in a plebiscite far more democratic than a mere election. As business leaders melded themselves theoretically with the people, they found powerful arguments against those who sought to regulate or control private enterprise. Since markets express the will of the people, virtually any criticism of business could be described as despicable
Re: [CTRL] Has America lost its Goodness?
-Caveat Lector- Why is sex the only thing that strikes you as immoral? Why think sex is immoral at all? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has America lost its Goodness?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/7/01 1:12:56 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is sex the only thing that strikes you as immoral? In the America of older times, whole families of children were taken in by neighbors if their parents died. Widows received food, fuel and other help from neighbors if it was needed. The old were kept in the homes and maintained; so were the mentally and physically afflicted. Hungry people were given food. Sick people were helped and treated by neighbors and doctors who could only hope for remuneration. Neighbors helped each other with the plowing, the planting and the harvesting. If a woman died in childbirth and the baby lived, a neighbor woman might volunteer to nurse the child along with her own. In other words, people cared for and helped people. That is the goodness that DeTocqueville was talking about. It was unlikely that he spent his time dwelling on the possibility that women were having abortions or that there was homosexuality loose in the land. In this day, when neighbors are only concerned about controlling the actions of their neighbors and trying to amass the most "stuff," there is every possibility that DeTocqueville would believe that "goodness" has been lost. You've made some very good observations and comments here. Things were very different before WWII. Government wasn't involved in every aspect of our lives. People lived together as real neighbors that cared for each other. They depended on each other, not the Mommy-Daddy government we have today. The government didn't regulate everything and give tax advantages to corporate (rich) interests. Taxes were a very small part of a person's income, then the "Do-gooders" of the Democratic Party changed things to help the poor, the minorities, the infirm, the people who could not control their sexual urges or their urges that made them rape, kill, murder, steal ... after all these people weren't bad people and drunks weren't drunks by choice, an illness made them drink ... they were "sick" not irresponsible (and the Republicans went along with it). Few people worked for massive corporations -- they worked at jobs where the business was owned by local people -- they didn't buy groceries in a Supermarket, they bought them at the Mom Pop grocery store. They didn't go out and buy a Japanese or German car, they bought an American car made by an American, their neighbors. Fact is nearly everything they bought was made in America. Neighborhoods stayed together, people lived in the same house most of their life rather than being moved all over the country by the Corporation for which they work. Then the Republicans got in office and used their influence to give even more power to corporate interests in the name of Americanism and proceeded to set the stage for moving businesses from a local level to a national level resulting in mega-business and an end to the neighborhood economy (and the Democrats helped pass these measures). All this time both parties passed tens of thousands of laws and regulations to control people who couldn't control themselves and to supposedly help people who couldn't help themselves. And, We the People voted for all these politicians who changed life in America to what it is today until our culture no longer exists. We brought this shitty way of life on ourselves by not being wary of government -- now only an armed revolution will end the relationship between government and Corporations. Any thing less than armed resistance will be futile because those that have the power aren't going to give it up without a fight. It's not about sex, it's about common decency, but common decency has been redefined by those that make the laws and define what is taught in schools so that now there is not any common decency even at the highest levels of government, in once respected teaching positions and certainly all respect for police has also been mitigated. It's not about sex, nor morality -- we've lost common courtesy and have only ourselves to blame ... Conspiracy maybe had something to do with it, but selfishness and not bothering to care about the important things in life are the real causes. If decent men and women had cared enough about this country and their children -- things would not be this way, but if you do nothing, the corrupt individuals will define government and make it what it is today -- a powerful Statist organization that cares not for the people that pay the bills. Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Art Bell Back on Air Feb 5, 2001
-Caveat Lector- Hi Amelia: I'm 40 (middle-aged and not at all computer adept) and I don't listen to Art Bell via the internet. For one thing, I won't tie up my phone line all night and I work days, so I can't sit up all night to listen anyway. I'm usually asleep by 9:00 pm (EST)!! and his braodcast doesn't start until 1:00 am here in Massachusetts. I bought something called a Select-antenna that drastically improves AM radio reception. I record the show everynight and listen to it the next day at work. And I listen to a Providence, RI station (about 40 miles away) that carries the first 4 hours of his show. (Or they did. I haven't listened to Coast to Coast since Art Bell retired so I have to find out if WPRO still carries it. A lot of stations have dropped it). While some of the topics and guests that Art covers are pure nonsense, his shows always make you think. And I've found if one is willing to at least entertain ridulous or off-the-wall ideas, one will have a much better understanding of the world and why things happen the way they do. Perhaps some great unseen force is controlling all that happens. If one doesn't have an open mind to explore the possiblility, one will never find out. Amelia, I hope you can find Art Bell when he comes back. I haven't been to his web site since he retired (because it doesn't have any interesting info anymore) but it used to have a complete list of all the stations that carry him. Perhaps that might help. Best wishes, Dale __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BALLAD OF GEORGE W. BUSH
-Caveat Lector- http://www.linkydinky.com/gwballad.shtml BALLAD OF GEORGE W. BUSH Come and listen to my story 'bout a boy name Bush. His IQ was zero and his head was up his tush. He drank like a fish while he drove all about. But that didn't matter 'cuz his daddy bailed him out. DUI, that is. Criminal record. Cover-up. Well, the first thing you know little Georgie goes to Yale. He can't spell his name but they never let him fail. He spends all his time hangin' out with student folk. And that's when he learns how to snort a line of coke. Blow, that is. White gold. Nose candy. The next thing you know there's a war in Vietnam. Kin folks say, "George, stay at home with Mom." Let the common people get maimed and scarred. We'll buy you a spot in the Texas Air Guard. Cushy, that is. Country clubs. Nose candy. Twenty years later George gets a little bored. He trades in the booze, says that Jesus is his Lord. He said, "Now the White House is the place I wanna be." So he called his daddy's friends and they called the GOP. Gun owners, that is. Falwell. Jesse Helms. Come November 7, the election ran late. Kin folks said "Jeb, give the boy your state!" "Don't let those colored folks get into the polls." So they put up barricades so they couldn't punch their holes. Chads, that is. Duval County. Miami-Dade. Before the votes were counted five Supremes stepped in. Told all the voters "Hey, we want George to win." "Stop counting votes!" was their solemn invocation. And that's how George finally got his coronation. Rigged, that is. Illegitimate. No moral authority. Y'all come vote now. Hear? Author Unknown A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: WORLD EXCLUSIVE: The Secret Life of Gale Norton
-Caveat Lector- It just doesn't seem to end. I wonder if she's Reptilian? -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kris Millegan Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: WORLD EXCLUSIVE: The Secret Life of Gale Norton A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sv: [CTRL] Laurence Gardner-again
-Caveat Lector- Dear Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine, I have made comments below to correct your blatant errors on the subject of David Icke, Stewart Swerdlow and Laurence Gardner. Your text is marked DR, my response is marked OG. Best, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark Dear Ole, I read through your 'corrections' and thought 'why even bother' trying to rationalise with such a blind believer? 1) Swerdlow did 'suddenly remember' - read his own words if you don't believe me. He was watching a video of Laurene at the NEXUS Conference, when he realised he 'had seen Gardner before. 2) Icke DID smear Gardner - read his own words if you don't believe me. Also, watch any of Icke's video presentations that year. You will even hear him allege that Zecharia Sitchin is a shape-shifting reptilian alien. 3) Ick DID ask for dirt on Gardner - read his own words if you dont believe me. 4) Icke's key researcher DID leave in disgust. I refer to Ivan Fraser. You are obviously not worried about letting the truth get in the way of your beliefs about Icke! And by the way, you did not respond to being corrected when you stated that "NEXUS banished Icke from its pages". I repeat, NEXUS has never banished Icke from its pages, because it has never had Icke in its pages! We were telling the world most of what Icke published years before Icke ever heard of any of this. You are just so inaccurate with your statements that I wonder why I even bother trying to correct someone so uninterested in truth! Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RadTimes # 133
-Caveat Lector- RadTimes # 134 January, 2001 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. "We're living in rad times!" --- QUOTE: "With what delight must every well informed friend of mankind look forward, to the auspicious period, the dissolution of political government, of that brute engine, which has been the only perennial cause of the vices of mankind and which... has mischiefs of various sorts incorporated with its substance, and no otherwise removable than by its utter annihilation." --William Godwin, 'An Enquiry Concerning Political Justice' --- How to assist RadTimes-- (See ** at end.) --- Contents: --- --D.C. Police Prepare for Protests at Inauguration --Thousands Will Protest at Bush's Inauguration in D.C. --Voter March --Civil rights leader calls for protest --Liberal, Socialist Protestors to Target Bush Inauguration --Alexander Cockburn's 12/14 column Linked stories: *Cybercrime pact steps on privacy, groups say *Terrorism concerns may unleash CIA *Carnivore praised, criticized in 'independent review' *Resistance Grows to Holiday Buying Blitz *Now what? *Supreme Court to democracy: Drop dead *Planned Community Aimed at Gun Enthusiasts *Corporate Democracy; Civic Disrespect *Florida Dispatch: 36 Days in the Life of a Recount Observer *Public Support Grows for Drug Decriminalization *Internet threatened by regulation --- Begin stories: --- D.C. Police Prepare for Protests at Inauguration by John Drake Published on Wednesday, December 13, 2000 in the Washington Times Anti-establishment activists and liberals are planning to flood the District with massive protests on Inauguration Day, prompting city police to brace for the deluge with an unprecedented level of security. Many of the groups that demonstrated against the World Bank here in April intend to return to the District with their puppets and mantras, regardless of who takes the presidential oath of office on Jan. 20. And supporters of Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore, led by the Rev. Jesse Jackson, are planning a "civil rights explosion" if Republican George W. Bush is officially named the winner. "We're not planning civil disobedience, but we are planning to fill the streets of Washington with thousands of people," said Brian Becker, co- director of the New York-based International Action Center, which is coordinating the protests. Meanwhile, law enforcement officials said they are preparing on an even greater scale than they did in April for the anti-World Bank/ International Monetary Fund protests. "What we would hope is that any demonstrations that are planned are peaceful," said Metropolitan Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey. "We'll be as gentle or as forceful as we need to be, and play the situation out based on what they do." "We have to be prepared for anything that may occur. It will not be [the police department] that creates the problem, but we will resolve it," he added. Chief Ramsey will mobilize the entire Metropolitan Police Department for the event, and he has invoked "mutual aid" agreements with police in surrounding counties to increase staffing. As many as 950 officers from Fairfax, Montgomery, Arlington and Prince George's counties and Alexandria will be federally deputized so they can enforce D.C. laws, officials said. Federal police agencies will be out in force, and other agencies - such as the FBI, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms - will be on standby for major incidents. Publicly, law enforcement officials said they do not anticipate anything out of the ordinary, even if anti-establishment protesters stage large demonstrations. But the closest presidential race in history has produced unusually intense partisan tensions, and the new anti-establishment movement could attract many more demonstrators. For those reasons, police forces are "anticipating problems" among anti-establishment protesters and partisans disappointed at their candidate's loss, several officials told The Washington Times. "The uncertainty of the election process, regardless of who wins, makes us think they will use the inauguration to show their displeasure one way or the other," a law enforcement official told The Times. Gore supporters have hinted they will demonstrate if the U.S. Supreme Court, which is considering the propriety of ballot recounts in Florida, rules in
[CTRL] RadTimes # 134
-Caveat Lector- RadTimes # 134 January, 2001 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. "We're living in rad times!" --- QUOTE: "In all times and all places, whatever be the name that the government takes, whatever has been its origin or its organization, its essential function is always that of oppressing and exploiting the masses, and of defending the oppressors and exploiters. Its principal characteristic and indispensable instruments are the policeman and the tax collector, the soldier and the prison. " --Errico Malatesta, 'Anarchy', 1891 --- How to assist RadTimes-- (See ** at end.) --- Contents: --- --AFIC Ready to Serve President-Elect Bush --Election Anger Fuels Inaugural Protesters --January 20th Revolutionary Anti-Authoritarian Bloc Update and Call --Every Protester Counts --How the Republicans Stole the Election --The Kennebunkport Hillbilly Linked stories: *BUSH v. GORE [Supreme Court ruling] *Great printable posters for the Inauguration protests *Bush prepares a government of reaction and militarism *Drug Companies' Tests in Poor Countries Raise Ethical Questions *Canada considers mandatory voting *Judge says illegal phone taps can be used in bomb trial *Micro-broadcasters dealt a blow *Big government invades the Internet *Family ties, political bias linked US Supreme Court justices to Bush camp *J20 INAUGURATION PROTEST --- Begin stories: --- AFIC Ready to Serve President-Elect Bush By Linda D. Kozaryn American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON, Dec. 15, 2000 -- The Armed Forces Inaugural Committee is standing by, ready to serve President-elect George W. Bush. Nearly 5,000 service members will take part in the nation's 54th presidential inauguration on Jan. 20. A core group of military planners, logisticians and operations officers has been working for months to make military support happen. The AFIC paves the way for two groups responsible for the inauguration. The Joint Inaugural Committee runs the inaugural ceremony on the Capitol grounds. The Presidential Inaugural Committee, a nongovernmental organization from the president-elect's party conducts the inaugural events. The PIC decides whether or not to have a parade, schedules inaugural balls and decides who will attend the inauguration. Once the invitation list is set, the military facilitates the movement of those people, he said. The AFIC has been up and running since January. Working in temporary offices at L'Enfant Plaza in a General Services Administration building, committee members have been readying the stage and coordinating DoD support for the 10- day inaugural period, Jan. 15 to 24. DoD guidelines outline what support the military can provide. The AFIC has a $4.1 million operating budget allocated over two fiscal years. The military identified post-inaugural homes for its big-ticket purchases such as computers and cameras. Tradition is the basis of the military support honoring the new commander in chief, according to Army Brig. Gen. Nick Perkins, committee deputy director. The military has taken part in the inauguration since George Washington took office as the nation's first president. Military participation reaffirms civilian control of the military, lends a sense of patriotism to the inaugural events and showcases the armed forces, Perkins said. The AFIC pulls together transportation, communications and other logistical aspects, he said. Active duty and reserve members from all five services will have a chance to work on the high-visibility, joint operation. The logistics team provides everything from more than 100 drivers for VIPs to command post electrical generators. While the AFIC's focus is on the ceremonial aspects of the inauguration, the team also makes contingency plans that take into account bad weather, civil disturbances, terrorist acts and more. AFIC officials also coordinate the color guards, military bands, ceremonial units and others that will participate in the parade and inaugural ceremony. In addition to the parade units, about 1,800 service members will form an honor cordon from the White House to the Capitol. Service members will also support galas and balls that occur after the inauguration ceremony. This generally consists of a joint-service color guard, as well as musicians. Generally, the Army's Herald Trumpets play ruffles and flourishes and "Hail to the Chief" at
[CTRL] Genesis: How the CIA Controls President Ford
http://www.ratical.com/ratville/JFK/CIACtrlF.html the following appeared in the 7/75 issue of Genesis: How the CIA Controls President Ford By L. Fletcher Prouty reprinted with permission of the author In this monstrous U.S. government today, it's not so much what comes down from the top that matters as what you can get away with from the bottom or from the middle -- the least scrutinized level. (Contrary to the current CIA propaganda as preached by William Colby, Ray Cline, Victor Marchetti and Philip Agee, who say, incorrectly, "What the Agency does is ordered by the President.") As with the Mafia, crime is a cinch if you know the cops and the courts have been paid off. With the Central Intelligence Agency, anything goes when you have a respected boss to sanctify and bless your activities and to shield them from outside eyes. Such a boss in the CIA was old Allen Dulles, who ran the Agency like a mother superior running a whorehouse. He knew the girls were happy, busy, and well fed, but he wasn't quite sure what they were doing. His favorites, all through the years of his prime as Director of Central Intelligence, were such stellar performers as Frank Wisner, Dick Bissell, George Doole, Sheffield Edwards, Dick Helms, Red White, Tracy Barnes, Desmond Fitzgerald, Joe Alsop, Ted Shannon, Ed Lansdale and countless others. They were the great operators. He just made it possible for them to do anything they came up with. When Wisner and Richard Nixon came up with the idea of mounting a major rebellion in Indonesia in 1958, Dulles saw that they got the means and the wherewithal. When General Cabell and his Air Force friends plugged the U-2 project for Kelly Johnson of Lockheed, Dulles tossed it into the lap of Dick Bissell. When Dick Helms and Des Fitzgerald figured they could play fun and games in Tibet, Dulles talked to Tom Gates, then Secretary of Defense, and the next we knew CIA agents were spiriting the Dalai Lama out of Lhasa, CIA undercover aircraft were clandestinely dropping tons of arms, ammunitions, and supplies deep into Tibet and other planes were reaching as far as northwestern China to Koko Nor. While he peddled the hard-won National Intelligence Estimates to all top offices and sprinkled holy water over the pates of our leaders, Dulles dropped off minor miracles along the way to titillate those in high places. If you win the heart of the queen and convert her to your faith, you can control the king. This works for the Jesuits. It worked well for the CIA. Allen Dulles was no casual student and practitioner of the ancient art of religion. He was an expert in the art of mind-control. He learned how to operate his disciples and his Agency in the ways of the cloth. But for every Saint and every Sinner in the fold there must be an order of monks, and the Agency has always been the haven for hundreds of faceless, nameless minions whose only satisfaction was the job well done and the furtherance of the cause. One of the most remarkable -- and surely the best -- of these was an agent named Frank Hand. In my book, The Secret Team, written during 1971 and 1972, I mentioned that the most important agent in the CIA was an almost unknown individual who spent most of his time in the Pentagon. At that time I did not reveal his name; but a small item in a recent obituary column stated that: "Frank Hand, 61, a former senior official of the CIA, died in Marshall, Minn. . . . (he was) a graduate of Harvard Law School. He had served with the CIA from 1950 until retirement in 1971." After a life devoted to quiet, effective, skillful performance of one of the most important jobs in the worldwide structure of that unparalleled agency, all that the CIA would publicly say of Frank Hand was that he was a "senior official." Ask Dick Helms, Ed Lansdale, Bob McNamara, Tom Gates or Allen Dulles or John Foster Dulles, if they were with us today, and they all would tell us stories about Frank Hand. They would do more to characterize the nature and the sources of power which make use of and control the CIA than has ever been told before. He was that superior operative who made big things work unobtrusively. You might have been one of the grass-green McNamara "whiz kids," lost in the maze of the Pentagon Puzzle Palace, who came upon a short, Hobbit-like, pleasant man who knew the Pentagon so well that you got the feeling he was brought in with the original load of concrete. Thousands of career men to this day will never realize that Frank Hand was a "Senior Official" of the CIA and not one of their civilian cohorts. To my knowledge he never worked anywhere else. I was there in 1955 and he was there. I left in December 1963, and he was at my farewell party. He must have spent some of his time at the agency; but it must have been before 1955. If he had a dollar for every trip he made in those busy years between the Pentagon and the CIA he would have died a very wealthy man. He popularized the Agency term "across the
[CTRL] RadTimes # 135
-Caveat Lector- RadTimes # 135 January, 2001 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. "We're living in rad times!" --- QUOTE: "I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth, and I am a citizen of the world." --Eugene Debs --- How to assist RadTimes-- (See ** at end.) --- Contents: --- --A Guide to Effective Participation in the 2001 Inauguration --Medical and Equipment Information --Affinity Groups for J20 Linked stories: *E-mail virus attacks multiply *'One in every 700 mails infected' --- Begin stories: --- A Guide to Effective Participation in the 2001 Inauguration Issued by: The Partnership for Civil Justice, Inc. A civil rights, women's rights and economic justice public interest law firm. 1901 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Suite 607 Washington, D.C. 20006 (202) 530-5630 [This document is also available on the Internet at www.InaugurAuction.org/training.asp ] The Importance of the Inauguration: Direct Participation in Democracy Without A Fee The Inauguration is one of the few Presidential events in which the public may directly participate without being charged an entrance fee or campaign contribution. The U.S. Government has asserted that it is illegal for citizens to participate in the Inauguration if those persons express viewpoints critical of the President or advocate policies different from the Administration's. The Government has declared such conduct violative of National Park Service (NPS) regulations and threatened to fine and arrest at the Inauguration any individual expressing such viewpoints. Before the 1997 Inauguration, the District of Columbia Circuit Court declared such threats to be unconstitutional, and ordered that the Government must allow protesters in groups of up to 25. See, Mahoney v. Babbitt, 105 F.3d 1452 (D.C. Cir. 1997). The authors maintain it is an unconstitutional violation of the First Amendment Right to Free Speech for the U.S. Government to arrest any individual or group participants (regardless of the size of the group) at the Presidential Inauguration just because they participate in the Inauguration by expressing political dissent or views critical of the President. This guide describes the NPS regulations and strategies for conducting effective political action within the NPS rules that restrict and sanction political dissent. It is intended to facilitate public participation in the Inauguration, despite the restrictions that the Government has placed upon free speech, for those who do not have the time or resources to mount a constitutional challenge to the existing NPS regulations that restrict free speech, or who wish to demonstrate within those rules to minimize government interference with their action. Disclaimer The information contained in this document is not intended, nor should it be construed as, legal advice or opinion. Should you require legal advice or opinion you should consult a licensed attorney. 2000, Partnership for Civil Justice, Inc. This document may be freely copied and distributed, provided it is copied and distributed in its entirety without alteration or omission. The Rule of 25 Demonstrations in groups of 25 people or less may be held without a permit on Pennsylvania Avenue or other federal land subject to the jurisdiction of the National Park Service. See, 36 C.F.R. Section(s) 7.96(g)(2)(i). Based on this provision, the U.S. Circuit Court for the District of Columbia has ruled that it is unlawful for the U.S. Government to fine or arrest Inaugural protesters in groups of 25 or less on the asserted grounds that such protesters are demonstrating without a permit. PROTEST TIP: ORGANIZE IN GROUPS OF 25 Unless you intend to challenge the 25 person limitation imposed by the National Park Service with the aid of an attorney, consider the following strategies: Organize in separate protest groups of 25 or less (yes, an affinity group will do). Larger groups may subdivide into separate and unrelated protest groups. Separate protest groups may consider differentiating themselves by protesting on different blocks, by wearing distinctive attire, or by bearing signs (or other items) addressing distinct issues. Separate protest groups, like affinity groups, should be separately named. Appoint no less than two clearly identified coordinators, or "marshals," for each group to monitor and enforce the 25 person limitation, politely explaining to those who exceed
[CTRL] Linda Chavez-Goodnight Irene!
FBI Questions Bush Nominee Illegal Immigrant Lived with Chavez, Possible Labor Secretary http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/chavez010107.html Jan. 7 — FBI agents have questioned labor secretary-designate Linda Chavez about an illegal immigrant who lived and may have worked in Chavez’ household. ABCNEWS has learned the FBI has questioned both Chavez and a woman from Guatemala who illegally resided in the Chavez household, in Bethesda, Md., for at least a year during the 1990s. Through Bush spokesman Tucker Eskew, Chavez has acknowledged that the woman did occasional jobs in the house — and that she occasionally gave the woman “spending money.” “She did odd jobs on an irregular basis,” Eskew told ABCNEWS. In a separate interview with ABCNEWS today, the woman confirmed she lived in Chavez’ house and did some chores, but did not accept money for the work she did. The woman, who now resides legally in the United States, says she told Chavez at the time that she did not have legal immigration papers. Since 1986, federal law has required an employer to verify a worker’s employment status. But federal immigration regulations also exempt housekeepers who provide “sporadic, irregular, and intermittent service.” According to the woman, she and Chavez, who now lives in Virginia, also spoke to each other last night. ‘Act of Compassion’ According to Eskew, Chavez has indicated she did not consider the woman to be an employee, and did not regard the money given to the woman as compensation for the jobs in question. Eskew also said Chavez’ deeds constituted an “act of compassion.” “She drove this woman around and helped her find employment, taught her about the [Washington] metro, got her enrolled in classes, and gave her spending money on no regular basis,” Eskew says Chavez suspected the woman may have been in the country illegally, but did not concern herself with the question because Chavez was not employing the immigrant. “Mrs. Chavez has two patterns in her life,” Eskew added. “She has a life-long pattern of helping people in need. Separately, she also has employed housekeepers and has always paid their taxes.” But sources familiar with the case say the FBI is aware of information that contradict Chavez’ version of events. And according to officials with the Immigration and Naturalization Service, it is against the law to give housing to a known illegal immigrant. Reactions Follow Party Lines Reactions to the news today largely followed party lines, with Republicans initially voicing support for Chavez, who was selected by President-elect George W. Bush to be his labor secretary. “I know nothing about what just came up,” said Republican Sen. Don Nickles of Oklahoma, appearing on ABCNEWS’ This Week. “But I do know Linda Chavez, and I have great respect for her … I think she’ll do a great job and I’m confident she’ll be confirmed.” But Democratic Senate leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota said he thought the arrangement “would present very serious problems” for Chavez. “This is the labor secretary,” said Daschle, on CBS’ Face the Nation. “The labor secretary ought to set the example, ought to be able to enforce all of the laws. If she hasn’t been able to do that in the past, one would have serious questions about whether she’d be able to do it in her capacity as secretary of labor.” And the Rev. Jesse Jackson, a former Democratic presidential candidate, sharply criticized Chavez. “Hiring this woman means essentially Chavez is against minimum wage,” said Jackson, also appearing on This Week. “She’s for sub-minimum wage ” When this came up on Mr. Clinton’s attorney general appointment eight years ago [Zoe Baird] she was pushed aside, and so Linda Chavez must meet the same standard.” There have already been indications that Chavez, a former civil rights administrator in the Reagan administration, could be in for a difficult confirmation process on Capitol Hill. Labor organizations and some Democrats have voiced objections to many of Chavez’ views, including her written view that raising the minimum wage would be “bad policy.” Chavez’ affiliation with a controversial group attempting to make English the country’s official language has also brought about criticism. — ABCNEWS’ John Yang and Ariane DeVogue contributed to this report.
Re: [CTRL] Has America lost its Goodness?
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 12:00:03 -0800, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: In the America of older times, whole families of children were taken in by neighbors if their parents died. Widows received food, fuel and other help from neighbors if it was needed. The old were kept in the homes and maintained; so were the mentally and physically afflicted. Hungry people were given food. Sick people were helped and treated by neighbors and doctors who could only hope for remuneration. Neighbors helped each other with the plowing, the planting and the harvesting. If a woman died in childbirth and the baby lived, a neighbor woman might volunteer to nurse the child along with her own. In other words, people cared for and helped people. Anyone offering or receiving such help these days will very likely be paid a visit by the IRS demanding their cut. -- A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. -- George Bernard Shaw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pravda-WHAT IS THIS STORY ABOUT URANIUM?
17:49 2001-01-06 WHAT IS THIS STORY ABOUT URANIUM? What’s this story about uranium? Depleted uranium? It is a form of uranium, 40 times weaker than the mineral state of the metal, which is added as an alloy to weapons-grade metals. Why? It adds impact to the projectile when it hits, say, a tank or an underground bunker, destroying the outer shield due to its extra weight – depleted uranium is a heavy metal. On impact, the uranium fuses and perforates the shell of the tank or bunker and high explosive can then destroy the occupants. So it is more effective in destroying tanks and underground bunkers than normal projectiles? Yes, it is… But? But there is an additional problem. On impact, a toxic cloud of uranium gas is emitted Oh I don’t believe that…they say that DU is as radioactive as a local hospital and less so than your wristwatch. NATO anyway has repeatedly stated that dangers from DU are a non-issue. So how do you account for the deaths ? What deaths? Soldiers from different countries who have served in Bosnia and Kosovo. There are conflicting reports, but confirmed documented cases point to one Portuguese, six or eight Italians, four or five Belgians, two Dutch, between one and eight Spaniards, one Czech dead and then we have in hospital or receiving treatment……. a lot. A lot? Yes, confirmed cases are around a hundred thousand American, Canadian and British servicemen in the Gulf, one Briton serving in Kosovo, three Portuguese, four or five Frenchmen, one Spaniard, five Belgians, thirty Italians, fifteen of whom with cancers. Wait a minute…a hundred thousand?? Are you speaking about Kosovo or the Gulf? I am confused. I am speaking about all theatres of war where Depleted Uranium was used. It started in the Gulf, ten years ago, after the USA acquired a stockpile of DU for a low price from nuclear power stations, then it was used again in the Balkans, first in Bosnia and then in Kosovo. But I never heard anything about this before. True, that’s because nobody ever spoke about it. It was a secret, you see. Not even the countries who sent their soldiers to Bosnia were informed. Why? Can’t you imagine? But what about the civilians? Well, independently performed tests in Iraq have shown that there are malformations in children, an increase in cancers, namely leukaemia and a dramatic increase in leukaemia in children. In Kosovo, it is feared that the water supply is unsafe. But that’s illegal! What about the other countries in the area ? Macedonia, for instance? Welcome to the twenty-first century! International politics move in mysterious ways, especially when they involve NATO Yes but we are not speaking about the robbery of the corner shop, we are speaking about intrusion into other countries and violation of Geneva agreements on rules of engagement. What about the environment? Well, independent tests made by the UNO have just been released…and state that the situation is extremely worrying due to high levels of radiation. I thought you said that DU weapons were toxic, not radioactive.. Ah! That’s where NATO holds its trump card. Mention the word “uranium!” and everyone shouts “radioactivity!” In this case, radiation levels can rise and fall but what kills is toxicity. But this is outrageous! Who started all this in the Gulf War? I don’t know…ask Colin Powell, he’s the new US Secretary of State. Yes, but wasn’t he involved in the Gulf War too? I don’t know…ask him John Ashtead Pravda.Ru London http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/01/06/1891.html
Re: [CTRL] Voter Rights Violations
-Caveat Lector- Amelia, I just don't understand these blanket statements you keep making, like, " ALL local politics have been handled by the Democratic party..." and "all local offices are run as a contest among Democrats" and "if I want to vote in the sheriff's primary , or the district attorney or dog catcher, I MUST vote in the Democratic primary." In the Chatanooga area, Bradley County, "Republican incumbent Stanley Thompson has known for a long time he has four more years as assessor of property. He was unopposed in the primary and there was no candidate for the Democratic nomination, so the assessor will have no opposition in the Aug. 3 general election." and Bledsoe County "Democrat Phillip Winkey Cagle, 453 votes, and Republican Glenn Swafford, 338 votes, were unopposed for their party's nominations for the assessor of property seats." (see http://chattanooga.about.com/citiestowns/southeastus/chattanooga/gi/dynamic/of fsite.htm?site=http://www.timesfreepress.com/2000/MAR/15MAR00/NEWS0915MAR.html ) - Your statements are so strange but I spent the time to refute them. Just for another example in the Deep South... in Bartow County, GA, the primary runoffs had both Republican and Democratic candidates for sheriff, school board in both districts, clerk of superior court, chief magistrate, and surveyor. At the same site, one can click on each GA county to see who the candidates were for primary run-offs. (see http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/vote2000/#bartow) -- I guess you don't know that Lousisiana has used non-partisan primaries for all it's elections (except President) since 1975? (see http://www.kencollier.org/classes/PSC312/lectures_PSC312/Primary_Caucus.html) And then to the issue of poll workers. You say, "If Ms. Binion had done her homework,she would have unearthed this little detail which would result in something like Headline: Democrat Poll Workers Deny Voting Rights." First, noboby I know thinks of Florida as the Deep South, so the whole premise that local races are all run by democrats doesn't apply. More counties in Florida voted for Bush than for Gore, and could be said to be Republican counties in general (see http://shazam.econ.ubc.ca/intro/votes.htm). And poll workers are not necessarily chosen by the party in dominance: (In Florida) "Elsewhere, a precinct may be Democratic but the poll workers are assigned by the Republican county machine. And so forth." (see http://prorev.com/votecount.htm) I hope in the future you will qualify your statements and source them as well. It's very tempting to refute outrageous blanket statements like these, but it's very time-consuming. I won't be doing it anymore. Samantha In a message dated 1/6/01 5:52:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As to the article asking where are the Democrats in this, I will explain this for the second time very slowly. In the Deep South ever since the War of Northern Aggression (you know the one where the rape of southern women in New Orleans was declared legal and tens of thousands of women and children and elderly starved to death, rendered homeless and having everything they owned looted by the "morally superior") ALL local politics have been handled by the Democratic party because these war crimes were so horrendous and unequalled in this nation's history (except maybe the slaughter and treatment of Native Americans), the opposite party of the one that did this to the South is the only one acceptable on a local level. Therefore, now actually read this, all local offices are run as a contest among Democrats. In other words, if I want to vote in the sheriff's primary , or the district attorney or dog catcher, I MUST vote in the Democratic primary. Then in the general election, I can vote a split ballot. If I want to select a Republican primary candidate, I would be given a ballot with only those of that party which would be locally blank. And of course one cannot vote in both. It would require me to give up voting for any local offices to vote in the Republican primary. So anyone with any local interest at all voted Democratic in the primary. The local candidates of the Republican party are practically non-existent. To this day, that is how it is done here in the South. Now, how and where are polling places actually run? At the local level--federal monitors excluded for they merely observe and do not participate. Every polling place in the South is rnn by Democrats because of the set up for local elections. There might be a few exceptions but the number would be so small and I do not think there are any. No local candidates run as Republicans any where in the South. I guess it is part of the "Fergit, Hell!" symdrome whereby some Southerners remain annoyed that their great-grandmother or other civilian
Re: [CTRL] Democracy, the election, and the news media
-Caveat Lector- Democracy, the election, and the news media By Carla Binion What is democracy, and how has it changed during the nation's history? What did the open stealing of election 2000 have to do with weakening democracy, and how would a genuine, truth-telling news media make democracy stronger? On January 6, Democratic senators cut a deal with senate Republicans. In exchange for such concessions as equal authority on committees, Democratic senate leaders agreed not to join House Democrats in protesting Florida's 25 stolen electoral votes. Cokie Roberts said on ABC's Sunday morning news talk show that the senators made the right decision, because it would have "thrown everything into chaos" to bring the voting irregularities into the open for debate. Roberts said the country would be better off if Democrats had an equal share of power in the senate. Mainstream news commentators often serve as mouthpieces for our paternalistic leaders. Both the mainstream media and parental congressmen have just patted the public on our little heads as if we were five-year-olds and assured us we are better off with a stolen election than with the "chaos" of examining the truth about our failing democracy. Before exploring how an honest, vigorously democratic news media might bolster democracy, let us think about what American democracy is -- both historically and now. Rightwing media propagandists often attack democracy. For example, Rush Limbaugh repeatedly says the U. S. is a republic instead of a democracy. He and other like-minded media folks often remind us we do not have direct democracy -- meaning, for example, the public does not vote on every proposed piece of legislation. What Limbaugh and his ilk leave out is the fact that America is a representative democracy. One dictionary definition of democracy is "government by the people, directly or through representatives." Our representatives are (supposedly) elected to represent the interests of the people. However, the meaning of the term "the people" has evolved over time. When the Constitution was first drafted, women, blacks, and the very poor were not considered "the people." Only white, male property owners were thought to be "the people" at that time. A more egalitarian version of democracy came about slowly, with eventual Constitutional amendments, including the Bill of Rights. Nat Hentoff has written columns for the Washington Post and the Village Voice. In "Living the Bill of Rights," Hentoff writes that he once told Supreme Court Justice William Brennan that he was on his way to speak about the Bill of Rights in a series of Pennsylvania schools. Hentoff told Brennan he wanted to explain to the kids what the Bill of Rights meant to their personal lives in terms of their right to free speech, their right to be protected from unreasonable searches by police, and other civil liberties. Justice Brennan said, "You've got to tell them stories. It's not enough to tell them what their rights and liberties are. They need to know -- and this will get them interested -- how these American liberties were won, and what it takes to keep them alive." Democracy, the egalitarian verson of democracy -- where women, minorities and the poor gained the right to be represented by elected officials -- was won through the sweat and blood of those very women, minorities and poor. Some news media pundits and politicians exhibit contempt for that kind of democracy. In fact, the mainstream press and elitist politicians have shown that same kind of contempt since the founding of the country. Some of the founding fathers took their "fatherhood" very seriously. For example, John Adams took a paternal attitude toward the poor when he said, "Men in general...who are wholly destitute of property, are also too little acquainted with public affairs to form a right judgment, and too dependent on other men to have a will of their own." (Eric Foner, "Tom Paine and Revolutionary America," New York:Oxford University Press.) Writer Jerry Fresia points out in "Toward An American Revolution," that: (1) Founder Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts complained that "the evils we experience flow from an excess of democracy." Gerry, a wealthy merchant, argued against electing a new national government by popular vote. (2) Alexander Hamilton of New York, admirer of monarchy, referred to the general public as "a great beast." Hamilton thought government should be a tool to assist bankers and wealthy financiers. He recommended suppressing "the amazing violence and turbulence of the democratic spirit." (His concern resembles Cokie Roberts' fear that open discussion of the anti-democratic Florida vote suppression might throw everything into chaos.) (3) Rufus King of Massachusetts, wealthy merchant and director of the First United States Bank, thought the judiciary should be allowed to curb political tendencies among "common people." He helped give the very wealthy a
Re: [CTRL] How it REALLY works: Best example EVER ! Why Gore defended Bush in the Senate.
-Caveat Lector- This has got to be one of the most cogent posts in quite some time which accurately paints the picture of what is really happening in the political system. They all are backslappers of each other by necessity. If convictions were involved then Gore would have contest the entire state in the beginning (he didn't which showed that he was not really serious and not basing his actions on "convictions" of his own) instead of just a place here and there. If convictions were involved he would have continued to fight even though the Supreme Court ruled against him. They, as the rulers behind the scenes all must support the system in which they rely on for their position and power. Gore would never go outside the lines in that or he would threaten his own ascendancy as well as countless other elite leaders, movers and shakers in the country. Do you think it would be allowed to happen? Yeah right. This just goes to show, ONCE and hopefully FOR ALL, that the whole contested election business, and the fiasco in Florida was just a sham for a purpose, otherwise it would never have happened in the first place, the system runs too well to be disrupted except by design. On Sun, 07 January 2001, Nurev Ind Research wrote: -Caveat Lector- Well DUH??? Why would anybody expect something different? THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. They are BOTH part of our system of Plutocratic rule. The election was merely a contest for which gang of Plutocrats gets their man into the White House. IT IS NOT GORE'S JOB TO THREATEN THIS SYSTEM! If he did that, he would need to look for another line of work. He IS one of the Elites. It's HIS system that he is protecting. == MichaelP wrote: The Dems and their candidate have clear responsibility for NOT even trying to recover a stolen election. Recovering the stolen election would put the whole system under scrutiny, and ultimately leave it open to democratic change. THIS IS DANGEROUS AND UNACCEPTABLE TO OUR RULING ELITES. It has cost them much time and money to get our political system just right. Just the way it is. They would not gladly suffer anyone mucking about with it. I would also point out that it was the Blacks in the House of Reps who have the audacity to stir things up. But we must remember that those are merely the representatives of the people. The Founding Finaglers made sure that the most democratic institution was the weakest. On the other hand, Senators and Justices, once elected or appointed, are untouchable by the citizenry. Vice President (Senator) Gore did his job. I strongly urge anybody reading this, to see the video of what transpired. That picture is worth a thousand words. Joshua2 They will come round begging for forgiveness in a year or two, Michael agence france presse Sunday, January 7 4:03 AM SGT Congress confirms Bush victory after contentious session WASHINGTON, Jan 6 (AFP) - George W. Bush was officially declared winner of the 2000 US presidential election Saturday after Electoral College votes were counted and certified by Congress in a contentious session featuring a walkout by black lawmakers. Democratic Vice President Al Gore, who won a majority of the popular vote in the bitterly contested November 7 election, announced the result in his capacity as US Senate president, giving Bush 271 electoral votes to his 266, with one abstention. Bush's running mate Dick Cheney was declared vice president-elect by the same number of votes over Democrat Joe Lieberman. "I am honored," Bush said in Texas as the lawmakers gathered. "It's a humbling experience to become the president of this great land. And I want to reiterate what I said before: I'm going to be the president of everybody, whether they supported me or not. And people need to know that; people need to know that this is going to be an administration that will make decisions on what's best for America." The 538 electoral votes were cast December 18 in the 50 state capitals and the District of Columbia, the federal capital. Each state's vote was read and counted in alphabetical order in the joint session of Congress. A dozen members of the Congressional Black Caucus walked out of the mostly-empty House chamber as the votes were tallied after * Gore rejected their contest to the 25 electoral votes from the southeastern state of Florida. * [highlighted by me - J2] Presidential ballots in that state from the November 7 election were at the center of more than a month of bitter disputes over hand recounting of those which could not be read by voting machines. Gore was forced to concede defeat when the US Supreme Court barred recounting of the disputed ballots. Ironically, it was Gore who overruled challenges to the contested vote in Florida raised by
Re: [CTRL] Space Warfare j2
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps you are right and this is not inevitable, but as fo probability I'd say you are on the losing end, since it seems to me that it is HIGHLY probable that we already deploy weapons into space on some level and have been for some time. In fact it is more probable that we do than that we do not. Whether it would continue or escalate is a matter of varying probability, but I think this is one that is probably already moot. On Sun, 07 January 2001, Nurev Ind Research wrote: -Caveat Lector- John Cone wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message this date, Nurev writes: SPACE MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE MILITARIZED!!! BY ANYONE!!! Nurev _ Nakano replies: During World War I, in the early days of military aviation, airplanes were first used for observation and they were not armed. The pilots for the two sides would actually wave to each other as they flew around to view and photograph the lines of defense and deployments. Then the airmen began carrying pistols and rifles in their airplanes and they would take shots at the enemy aircraft. A little later, they began carrying bombs (some weighing up to 25 pounds), and hand dropping them on the enemy troops below. It wasn't long before airplanes became weapons of war. In the early days of the "Space Age", satellites were used for observation. Early manned spacecraft were not armed Bottom line is this: The militarization of space is already well underway and it will accelerate. It is inevitable. Regards Nakano Only death is inevetable. Everything else has varying degrees of likelyhood. Weapons in space are not inevetable. But they would sure like you to think so. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Art Bell Back on Air Feb 5, 2001
-Caveat Lector- From: "Amelia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I do Dale. I have had a problem in the past when this show was on in that I could not find it by scanning on my radio at night. Maybe others are middle-aged and not so adept at these things. I would like you to tell exactly how to locate him and the correct hours for Central Time Zone. Also, How does one listen to him via computer and the Internet? http://www.artbell.com/audio.html He's on from 10pm to 2am PT, which would be midnight to 4am CT I only tried a few times but could not find this program. Which is better--radio or computer? In my case the answer is 'computer', since I can't get a clear radio signal of his program in my area. And unless I'm suffering from insomia, I am not usually awake between 1am and 5am, the time the show is live on the east coast; so I catch whatever shows interest me after the fact via his website, since they archive each show. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Name/Gender Thing was Wiccan etc.
-Caveat Lector- From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is one person on this list, who would know Nessie's gender for sure, and that is our own Kris Millegan.. Kris and Nessie have both spoken of meeting in person at the CIA-DRUGS conference in Eugene last year. Yes, but could Kris tell us whether Nessie has flippers or not? ;-) And how do you know Nessie was named after the lake? Because he has told us so... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Would you strip to beat a DWI ticket?
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now this alleged officer, He is not 'alleged', he IS a NYC cop... was he on duty? Was he a real policeman? "Yes", on both counts. What a set up - who are these ladies - Just your normal middle-class residents of the Big Apple... Did anybody see these "ladies" walking home in the cold in that condition? The one whose story first made the news claims it happened at around 4am on January 1st...we'd just had a near-blizzard the day before, and the temps at 4am were in the single-digits, so presumably not many people were awake and gazing out their windows at that hour. This happened in a residential neighborhood in one of the outer buroughs, not in mid-town Manhattan...contrary to the song, the outer buroughs of New York City DO sleep Were any of these ladies prostitutes? No, they are middle-class property owners who have respectable jobs. They just happened to be coming home late from a night of socializing with friends. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Check out Snap:News:Top Stories:Clinton: Divide Israel in two
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