Re: [CTRL] Closure for the Oklahoma City bombing victims (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Re: Closure for the Oklahoma City bombing victims http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=2668 From: APFN WEBMASTER All this is on American Patriot Friends Network's Web site, including videos audios http://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc_coverup.htm - Original Message - From: Richard Palmquist To: Nicklas Arthur ; Truth Radio= Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: Video tapes Closure for the Oklahoma City bombing victims will not come from the death of Tim McVeigh. Closure will come only when the security monitoring tapes that pictured the dastardly act are released to the public. Why are those tapes are hidden from view by a gag order? What is the government hiding? Ballistics expert (ret) General Ben Parton declares that the bomb that sent pieces of the Murrah Building across the street had to be resting against pillar(s) inside the building? Not outside. Outside bombs blow in. Inside bombs blow out. There were two explosions, separated by ten seconds, as recorded by an official seismograph. Why is Parton never interviewed on television? (I have his home phone number if anyone cares.) I believe there was just one problem solved in the death of Timothy McVeigh: his family is now safe from the threats against their lives that would have been carried out if McVeigh had told all he knew. I am pro government: pro HONEST, open government. This email was written by: Richard Palmquist To have your email address added to or removed from my list, contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 246 La Camarilla Place Nipomo, CA 93444 805-929-2474 Listen: www.truthradio.com, Member: Amer. Media Assn - www.americanmedia.org Our son Tim's web site - www.glorifyjesus.com Our son Stephen's web site - http://arts.hkbu.edu.hk/~spalmquist/srp/quotes.html == Timothy McVeigh SSN 129-58-4709 http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html TIME: How did the war change your outlook on life Mon Jun 11 15:06:43 2001 A Look Back in TIME: Interview with Timothy McVeigh TIME's Patrick Cole talks to the defendant in prison http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=2663 McVeigh Vidal Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:27:19 -0700 http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=2660 THE EXECUTION OF TIM MCVIEGH http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,26773,00.html DEAR MR. JACK LAMB http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=2666 WE ARE APT TO SHUT OUR EYES AGAINST A PAINFUL TRUTH... FOR MY PART, I AM WILLING TO KNOW THE WHOLE TRUTH; TO KNOW THE WORST; AND TO PROVIDE FOR IT. Patrick Henry http://www.apfn.org/old/apfncont.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TSG: Bush Girl Was In Trouble With Alcohol Feb. 2000
-Caveat Lector- TSG wasn't the only outfit interested in Bush booze leads. A Harvard Crimson reporter, Parker Conrad, had pursued the story ... Conrad's story was eventually shelved by the daily's managing editor on the grounds that Bush was a private figure. ht://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.shtml Fourteen months before underage booze antics made headlines, Barbara Bush, then 18, was questioned by Massachusetts cops responding to a manager's complaint that a raucous February 2000 party at a hotel on Harvard Square involved several minors in a room consuming alcohol, The Smoking Gun has learned. According to a Harvard University Police Department log, the manager of the university-owned The Inn at Harvard called cops on February 19 at 11:18 PM complaining about the booze blast. The log notes that, Officers sent to assist him in removing them. Cops prepared an incident report detailing what happened upon their arrival, but Harvard refused last week to release the document following a TSG request, contending that the Massachusetts Open Records Law does not apply to the school's police force. But we've been able to piece together this account of the incident through interviews and information from the Harvard police log: While her father was gearing up for a Super Tuesday (March 7) showdown with John McCain, Barbara Bush spent her President's Day weekend in Cambridge, Massachusetts visiting Harvard University. Along with Yale and Stanford, the teenager had been accepted at Harvard, where she visited that holiday weekend in preparation for making her college pick. The teenager stayed in the dorm room of Harvard freshman Tabitha George, who Bush knew from Austin, Texas. The president's daughter crossed paths that weekend with Harvard cops responding to the Saturday night call about underage drinking at The Inn at Harvard, where rooms rent for an average of about $200 and visiting dignitaries are more common that rowdy beer blasts. As in Texas, you must be 21 to drink in Massachusetts. Aware that police had been summoned to the hotel, young partygoers fled the room. When officers arrived, they questioned a small group of young people outside the inn--all of whom they suspected had attended the truncated bash. Cops were directed to the group, which included Barbara Bush, either by the hotel's manager or by one of the room's occupants, who had been detained (accounts provided to TSG slightly differed on this point). No arrests were made after police questioned and sought identification from about five individuals. TSG calls to the Harvard police were referred to school spokesman Joseph Wrinn, who said, We don't comment on the specifics in regards to incidents involving the Harvard University Police Department. George also refused to answer any questions, saying she did not comment about the Bushes. The Smoking Gun spoke to George last September, shortly after we first heard about the underage hotel bash. A Harvard source provided us with the outline of the story--Barbara Bush's alleged involvement, the party date, that the bash occurred in a Cambridge hotel--and we went in search of documents to confirm the account. TSG first reviewed logs maintained by the Cambridge Police Department, but located no record remotely matching the details we had. Then we contacted Peggy McNamara, spokesperson for the Harvard University Police Department, and asked her to check police logs for February 19, 2000. We told her we were looking for an incident late that evening involving underage drinking at a Cambridge hotel. McNamara called back to say that nothing in the department's records matched our information. TSG then put the story on the back burner. We revisited the Harvard tip last week in light of Bush's no contest plea for the Chuy's bust and the disclosure that Barbara, a Yale freshman, had a phony ID confiscated in October when she tried to use it at a New Haven bar. This time, when we called the Harvard cops they turned over (on June 8) log pages recording the hotel party involving several minors. We're waiting to hear how they overlooked the entry when we first asked about it in September 2000. As it turned out, TSG wasn't the only outfit interested in Bush booze leads. A Harvard Crimson reporter, Parker Conrad, had pursued the story, which appeared headed for the student newspaper. But while publication was supported by many at the Crimson--including some of the paper's top executives--Conrad's story was eventually shelved by the daily's managing editor on the grounds that Bush was a private figure. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER
[CTRL] Audio: OKC bomb coverage 4/19/93 (fwd)
- Original Message - From: Bill Nalty Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 7:40 PM Subject:Audio: OKC bomb coverage 4/19/93 MULTIPLE BOMBS? Drudge is getting ready to play this audio from CNN's coverage the morning of April 19, 1993. Audio Portion of Feeds - CNN Day Of Oklahoma City Bombing Real Audio Version (378kb) - Running Time: Approx. 3 minutes LISTEN: http://www.radiofreeomaha.com/oklahoma.rm Oklahoma City Bombing Cover-Up http://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc_coverup.htm Radio Free Omaha http://www.radiofreeomaha.com === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends===
[CTRL] NM: Toricelli Plans to Blackmail Ashcroft
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/6/10/203005 Sunday, June 10, 2001 9:41 PM EST Toricelli Plans to Blackmail Ashcroft Taking a page right out the Clinton-Carville playbook, New Jersey Senator Robert Toricelli is seeking to blackmail Attorney General John Ashcroft. Toricelli, a Democrat, is under investigation for accepting bribes and illegal campaign cash and gifts. The New York Post reported this weekend that Toricelli plans to stave off an indictment by tearing down Attorney General John Ashcroft. Reportedly Toricelli operatives have been working behind the scenes to investigate Ashcroft's past - and to use damaging personal information against him if he does not accept Toricelli's demand that an independent counsel be appointed to probe his case. Toricelli has been bragging about his new strategy, and was caught last Thursday at fundraiser in Teaneck, New Jersey saying, On the day that John Ashcroft gets a gold watch for leaving the Justice Dept., I'll be there [in the Senate] nominating federal judges. Dick Morris, former adviser to Bill Clinton, said Toricelli's efforts are nothing more than the successful slash-and-burn strategy used by the Clintons to derail efforts to have him impeached. During the impeachment proceeding, Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt openly advertised for damaging personal information on Congressmen and Senators. In this case Toricelli will have a more difficult time claiming political motives. He is being investigated by Mary Jo White, U.S. Attorney for New York and a Clinton appointee. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Tipper suspected she was clinically depressed.
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{{My, talk about a revisionist version! No mention of the
alcohol and pills in this particular article but that was a
factor in her hospitalization also. I did not know, however,
that her mother had also been hospitalized for mental illness.
AKE}}
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Like Mother, Like Daughter (Tipper and Karenna Gore:
Interview)
Ladies Home Journal (back)
Author/s: Diana Mclellan
Issue: Nov, 1999 (partial reprint)
Tipper suspected she was clinically depressed. It was a
condition she'd seen up-close and personal as a child, when
her own mother was hospitalized, for serious bouts of
depression. Partly because of that, she'd studied mental
health in college, going on to earn her master's degree.
When she told her husband and children that she needed help,
everybody was supportive, she says. But shame, silence and
stigma have always surrounded mental illness. Today, Tipper
still seems to feel this way. Even though she heads the White
House campaign on mental health, she sidesteps any specifics
about her symptoms or treatment.
There's a clinical checklist for depression, she says
carefully. It includes changes in eating and sleeping
patterns, changes in behavior, becoming withdrawn. Generally
speaking, if several of those things apply to you for more
than two weeks at a time, it's recommended that you consult a
mental-health professional.
Given her mother's history with the illness, does Tipper
believe depression might have a hereditary component?
I don't think the studies are definitive enough on that yet,
she says. But we're closer to scientific knowledge of genetic
markers for all kinds of illnesses--cancer, diabetes,
Parkinson's and many psychological disorders.
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[CTRL] AP: Villaraigosa Has Bright Future (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Allan Favish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:12 AM Subject: AP: Villaraigosa Has Bright Future [The Democratic Party loves the man who, 1) urged Clinton to pardon a man who was convicted of helping to sell over 800 pounds of cocaine and who accepted money from the cocaine dealer's father, 2) voted for and continues to support legislation to allow illegal aliens to get California drivers licences, 3) supports legislation that would allow illegal aliens to get California resident tuition rates at state colleges, while American citizens from other states would have to pay the much higher nonresident rates, 4) opposed Prop. 187 and wants taxpayers to pay for the education of illegal aliens in our schools, which was costing the state at least 1.2 Billion dollars in 1994 (who knows how much since then), 5) opposed Prop. 209, 6) was a leader of MECHA while at UCLA, advocating that the American southwest be given to Mexico (when asked during the closing days of the L.A. Mayoral campaign if he would denounce that position, he did not do so), 7) while in the California Assembly, voted for the electricity re-regulation that has helped to ruin the state (as did the rest of the legislators at the time), but then ran a radio ad during the L.A. Mayoral campaign saying, without mentioning that he voted for the re-regulation, that he voted to allow L.A. Department of Water Power to forego participation in the re-regulation (part of the re-regulation was that municipal utilities did not have to participate, so everyone who voted for the re-regulation, also voted for the municipal opt-out provision), 8) has a soft on crime voting record, as Mayor-elect Hahn used effectively in the campaign. I predict that when Hillary runs for President, she will pick Villaraigosa as her running mate. --ajf] http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/national/ap28.htm AP National Villaraigosa Has Bright Future by MICHELLE DeARMOND Associated Press Writer LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Antonio Villaraigosa's failed bid this week to become mayor of the country's second-largest city may help his political future, political analysts say. Villaraigosa, 48, an immigrant's son from East L.A. who rose to become speaker of the state Assembly, energized the city's Hispanic populace with his charisma and up-from-the-barrio life story. His quest to become Los Angeles' first Hispanic mayor since 1872 also raised his profile nationally. Democratic leaders around the country offered their support during the campaign, and the Democratic party is eager to involve him in its efforts to attract Hispanic voters. ''People all over the country now know the name Antonio Villaraigosa,'' said Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. He said Villaraigosa has a ''great future.'' Political observers say Villaraigosa has a good shot at any number of statewide offices or even Congress. He already has $1.3 million in campaign funds he collected while state Assembly speaker stored in an account he could use for a state Senate race. ''I think having lost this race in many ways will go to his benefit,'' said Jim Duffy, a Democratic consultant in Washington, D.C. ''My sense is he was able to generate a lot of excitement among Hispanics. In that sense, he is the acknowledged leader of Hispanics ... which is no small position to hold in Los Angeles and nationally.'' Hispanics account for nearly 47 percent of Los Angeles' population of 3.7 million and represent the biggest single ethnic or racial group in the city. Nationally, the Hispanic population jumped nearly 60 percent over the past decade, according to census figures. At a news conference Wednesday, Villaraigosa declined to speculate about his professional future, saying that after a 22-month campaign he wanted to spend time with his wife and children. ''I put everything I had into this race,'' he said. ''I don't have anything left, frankly, at least on the short term.'' Villaraigosa received 46 percent of the vote in Tuesday's mayoral election, losing to City Attorney James Hahn, who won with 54 percent. Hahn will succeed Richard Riordan, a millionaire Republican businessman who was barred by term limits from running for re-election. AP-NY-06-09-01 0558EDT 06/09/2001 === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright
[CTRL] Arthur C. Clarke Stands By His Belief in Life on Mars
-Caveat Lector- Arthur C. Clarke Stands By His Belief in Life on Mars By Leonard David Senior Space Writer posted: 12:25 pm ET 07 June 2001 WASHINGTON -- Noted space visionary and writer, Sir Arthur C. Clarke, believes that new images of Mars clearly show the red planet dotted with patches of vegetation, including trees. Such a find may help spark a far grander space program more aligned with the adventure and exploration portrayed in the epic film, 2001: A Space Odyssey - the collaborative work of both Clarke and director Stanley Kubrick. Clarke spoke last night, June 6, via phone from his home in Sri Lanka as key speaker in the Wernher von Braun Memorial Lecture series held here at the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum. Pouring over images on his home computer taken by the now-orbiting Mars Global Surveyor (MGS), Clarke said that there are signs of vegetation evident in the photos. I'm quite serious when I say have a really good look at these new Mars images, Clarke said. Something is actually moving and changing with the seasons that suggests, at least, vegetation, he said. Clarke repeated several times that he was serious about his observations, pointing out that he sees something akin to Banyan trees in some MGS photos. Science met its match Joining Clarke in last night's lecture was a panel of space authorities, Apollo 17 moonwalker, Eugene Cernan, science fiction writer, Ben Bova, and space historian Fred Ordway. Cernan said that he has concluded there's little difference between science fiction and science fact. He said that the only difference is time, a dimension we know so little about. Standing on the surface of the Moon in sunlight, you are surrounded by the blackest black that you can allow your mind to conceive. Not darkness, but blackness, Cernan said. That view affords a person a face-to-face look at the endlessness of time and the endlessness of space, with Earth moving through that blackness. What you see is infinity, he said. I have looked and focused as far as I can focus on infinity. I can tell you that it literally does exist, Cernan said. Awestruck by the vista from his trek to the Moon, now over a quarter of a century ago, Cernan said that he came to a point where science did not have an explanation for what he saw. It was just too beautiful to have happened by accident. Science met its match, he said. The other things Cernan decried the fact that the country's space exploration agenda today rings hollow compared to the past. What's it going to take to get people to dream again, to realize they can once again do the impossible? Cernan asked. John F. Kennedy said that we plan to go the Moon 'and do those other things'.we haven't done the other things yet, he said. Ben Bova said that NASA's program is driven by politics. If there's no political push and no political will, then I think it's going to have to come from the private sector, he said. How to reactivate America's space program to do bold things is the $64 trillion question, Clarke responded by phone. Space tourism may act as a trigger, he said, as could some major discovery, such as new findings on Mars. Ordway said that 2001: A Space Odyssey, and the vision it portrays, came at a time when space was on everybody's agenda, he said. Old and new worlds I think there's a real possibility there may be a propulsion breakthrough, Clarke said. The rocket is going to play the same role in space as the balloon did in aviation. It will be superseded by something much better, he said. Cernan said he remains optimistic about the future of space exploration. In the future, people will not only be living on Mars, they are going to be coming back to see where their forefathers grew up, Cernan said. I think someday they will be talking about the Old World and the New World, and we're going to co-exist together. That's science fiction today, but give us time, he said. Clarke said however, that such a scenario has one problem. I'm afraid the great, great grandchildren won't be very happy back here on Earth at three times normal gravity, Clarke said. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
[CTRL] Skolnick: The Mind Reels: Skolnick on McVeigh
-Caveat Lector- McVEIGH and FRAUD UPON THE COURT Sherman H. Skolnick Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By Sherman H. Skolnick 6/3/01 There is one term lawyers seldom study about or use. Perhaps reading about this will help you understand why. That phrase is fraud upon the court. In Anglo-Saxon Law, lawyers are officers of the court, pledged to uphold the court system. In the beginning of this nation, the lawyers and judges in the colonies, generally were Tories who supported the Crown, the Monarchy in England that sought to tax the colonists without representation. With the Declaration of INDEPENDENCE from England and the American Revolutionary War, among other things, the non-lawyer colonists rose up against the lawyers and lawyers acting as judges. To identify these enemies of the people, the colonists painted black the chimneys of lawyers and judges, many of whom fled to Canada. From the standpoint of lawyers and judges, the most troublesome fraud upon the court involves a corrupter or bagman, working a malign if not corrupt influence on the judge or judges to procure an arbitrary ruling. In the whole history of jurisprudence in the United States, with just one rare exception of record, lawyers have NOT been the ones invoking, in court, the principle of fraud upon the court to challenge a court ruling by fingering the judge. Even to this day, lawyers generally by what they do and say in court, support the system, upholding whatever nowadays constitutes the Crown. With that one exception of record, in the entire history of the United States, all the invoking in court of fraud upon the court as to corrupt judges has been done in the last four decades by me and my associates in our court reform, investigation, and research group, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts, of which since 1963 I have been the founder/chairman. As a group, we early on by our work came to understand the general principles of judicial corruption endemic in America. Such as namely, oftentimes, the judges in the courthouse building own and operate a bank, together with their lawyers/cronies/corrupters. And, surprisingly, very often that selfsame bank is right across the alley or right across the street from the courthouse. Identified by others as the greatest bribery-of-judges scandal in American history, was caused by us in 1969. The State courthouse in Chicago at the time was called the Civic Center. It housed the Circuit Court of Cook County; and the next higher level in a three-tier state court system, the Appellate Court of Illinois, First District, being Cook County; and the Chicago offices of three of the seven Justices of Illinois' highest tribunal, the Illinois Supreme Court whose court building is in the state capitol. Through an intense investigation, we as non-lawyers but self-educated in law, and not wishing to be members of the bar, unearthed documents and details supporting the following [1] That across the street from the Civic Center was a small, CLOSELY HELD bank. Following the cynical tradition in America. it was called, naturally, the Civic Center Bank. [2] From all the details, we understood it was a quiet money laundry for criminal purposes. We called it the shuttle bus to Switzerland. [3] It was founded by Illinois' chief tax collector, Theodore J. Isaacs, who had been Director of the Illinois Department of Revenue, interlocked with the highly corrupt Chicago District office of the Internal Revenue Service. [4] Isaacs brought into his bank enterprise as fellow owners the Chief Bank Examiner; Otto Kerner, Jr., Governor of Illinois and later, made a federal appeals court judge; together with thirty state and federal judges and nine name-brand Chicago-area gangsters. [5] To assure himself that the pressfakers would censor any negative stories about the criminal operation, Isaacs also brought in as fellow owners the head of Field Enterprises that at that time owned the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Daily News; and the political editor of the Chicago Tribune; and a further assortment of City Hall and media bigshots. Because of his previous activities, Isaacs was convicted of state criminal offenses. His appeal was pending in the Illinois Supreme Court. Being a man that understands the American judicial system, he did a natural thing. Just two weeks before the oral argument and presentation of his appeal, he brought into the bank, as fellow owners, most of the judges of the Illinois Supreme Court. The high court judges did a natural thing. As banker-judges they understood the judicial system such as it is. They overturned the conviction of their fellow bank-owner Isaacs. [As we have pointed out on our website, the court system is riddled in key places with Banker-Judges. They do not disqualify themselves when their bank is in their court. Guess who wins in their crooked court?] Our policy is and has always been when we are convinced that certain judges are corrupt, we file and
[CTRL] Guardian: Death row diaries reveal McVeigh's goal of martyrdom
-Caveat Lector- http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,504079,00.html Death row diaries reveal McVeigh's goal of martyrdom Inmates write about 'troubled' bomber Julian Borger in Washington Saturday June 9, 2001 The Guardian As Timothy McVeigh approaches his day of execution this Monday, he has been dieting so that he will look like a concentration camp victim in postmortem photographs, according to jail diaries kept by his fellow inmates on death row in Indiana. McVeigh's execution will be broadcast on closed-circuit television to about 300 survivors and relatives of victims in Oklahoma City. One fellow inmate and diarist, Paul Hammer, referred to the media event as Bloodstock. The event may also be videotaped after a federal judge in Pittsburgh granted a request to this effect yesterday by lawyers in an unrelated death penalty case who want to use the filmed record to support their argument that state execution contravenes the constitution because it is cruel and unusal punishment. The Pittsburgh case involves Joseph Minerd, charged with rigging the pipe bomb that killed his former girlfriend and her daughter. Minerd was charged under the federal arson and bombing law that was also used to prosecute defendants including McVeigh in the Oklahoma City bombing. A McVeigh lawyer said his client had no objection to a video, but justice department officials are appealing against the Pittsburgh ruling, citing a federal regulation that prohibits photographic, visual or audio recording of executions. Light is thrown on the Oklahoma City bomber's state of mind and conditions in the federal death row buildings in the small Indiana town of Terre Haute by diary entries posted on a website that is called Death Row Speaks (www.deathrowspeaks.net). Jeff Paul, 24, who is facing the death penalty for robbing and shooting dead an 82-year-old man on a mountain path in Arkansas, observed in an entry dated May 25 that the security precautions around McVeigh had been stepped up, with waste paper from his cell being shredded. Apparently, a staff member was caught either smuggling things out of prison with his [McVeigh's] name on it or trying to sell some things of his on the internet. Tim [McVeigh] is not sure which but is interested in finding out, Paul wrote. They put him in a cell with constant video surveillance a while back and instituted a policy that anytime he comes out of his cell he'll have at least three officers present, on top of the handcuffs and chains. Officials in charge at Terre Haute failed to return calls about the security precautions, but officials at the bureau of prisons said that they believed the Death Row Speaks diaries to be genuine. The diaries consist mainly of the inmates' personal reflections on their past and their jail conditions, but two of them, Paul and David Hammer, make occasional observations about their notorious prison mate. Paul reported that for a long time he [McVeigh] was on a vegetable diet that comes in a special tray. I asked him why and he said it was because he wanted to look like a concentration camp victim for the postmortem photos. On May 30 he noted that McVeigh had started taking normal meals again, and Paul speculated this was because he believed his stay of execution, granted because of the belated discovery of evidence by the FBI, would last longer than the initial month, and that he knows he's going to be around to lose [weight] later. But on Thursday, a federal appeal court upheld a district judge's decision to reject McVeigh's request for an extended stay of execution, on the grounds that there was no doubt about his guilt. McVeigh, who has admitted bombing the Alfred P Murrah federal building on April 19 1995 - killing 168 people and injuring 500 - subsequently dropped his attempt to have the execution postponed. The web diaries do not record these most recent events, as they have to be posted by conventional mail to the website organisers, Julie and Simon Whyte in Dorset, England. Ms Whyte said yesterday that the three-month-old website was an opportunity for inmates to show that they are human beings, with feeling and emotions like the rest of us. It gives an insight into their lives and, by understanding what the inmates have been through, maybe we can start trying to concentrate on the cause of violent behaviour rather than continuously having to execute people and achieving nothing. In another entry, Paul Hammer also wrote: My friend Tim is a troubled and misguided man. We disagree on most issues, but he is also a kind loving and caring person with a quick smile, keen wit and a sense of humour. I will miss him and I continue to pray for his soul. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends
[CTRL] Goodbye from 'snetnews@topica.com' (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Well it looks like that Steve Wingate has taken me off of snet, because I certainly did not unsubsribe myself from snet! Bill visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:27:24 -0700 From: Topica Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Goodbye from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Hello! You have successfully unsubscribed from SNETNEWS. If you're looking for newsletters or discussions that better suit your taste, start with Topica's home page. Check out our content channels or just search our site here: http://www.topica.com If you're interested in great deals on the products and services you want, check out our money-saving TopOffers here: http://www.topica.com/partner/sysmes1/channels/offers/ TRY, TRY AGAIN Is this all a big mistake? If you did not want to leave SNETNEWS, you can resubscribe by sending a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or, if the problem was simply that you got too much email, why not try the digest version of the list? To subscribe into digest mode, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HELP DESK If you believe someone has used your email address without your consent, please contact Topica's Abuse Team at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Still have questions? We're here to help. Simply email Topica's Customer Support at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please include the email address of the list in question and the email address you use to subscribe to the list. Sincerely, Topica Customer Support A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Camp Runamuck for elites.
-Caveat Lector- San Francisco Bohemian Club: Power, Prestige and Globalism By Peter Phillips For much of the world, July 14th is celebrated as the end of a flagrantly out of touch French monarchy; the date in 1789 when the people of Paris rose up and marched on the Bastille, a state prison that symbolized the absolutism and arbitrariness of the Ancient Regime. July 14th 2001 is, ironically, also the first day of summer camp for the world's business and political aristocracy and their invited guests. Between 2,000 to 3,000 men will gather at Bohemian Grove, 70 miles north of San Francisco in California's Sonoma County-to sit around the campfire and chew the fat-off-the-record-with ex-presidents, corporate leaders and global financiers. One might imagine modern-day aristocrats like Henry Kissinger, George W. Bush, and Donald Rumsfeld amid a circle of friends sipping cognac and discussing how the unqualified masses cannot be trusted to carry out policy, and how elites must set values that can be translated into standards of authority. Private men's clubs, like the San Francisco Bohemian Club, have historically represented institutionalized race, gender and class inequality. English gentlemen's clubs emerged during Great Britain's empire building period as an exclusive place free of troublesome women, under-classes, and non-whites. Men's clubs were the place where English elites could co-mingle in homogeneous harmony. Copied in the United States, elite private men's clubs served the same self-celebration purposes as their English counterparts. As metropolitan areas emerged, upper-crust white males created new clubs throughout the Americas. These private men's clubs continued the European traditions of elitism, race superiority and gender exclusion. The San Francisco Bohemian Club was formed in 1872 as a gathering place for newspaper reporters and men of the arts and literature. By the 1880s local businessmen joined the Club in large numbers, quickly making business elites the dominant group. More than 2,500 men are members today. Most are from California, while several hundred originate from some 35 states and a dozen foreign countries. About one-fifth of the members are either directors of one or more of the Fortune 1000 companies, corporate CEOs, top governmental officials (current and former) and/or members of important policy councils or major foundations. The remaining members are mostly regional business/legal elites with a small mix of academics, military officers, artists, or medical doctors. With a historically all white membership, the Bohemian Club became sensitive to civil rights issues in the 1960s and gradually admitted a few men of color. Today they remain 99% white. The Club does continue to maintain its exclusive gender practices. Other then allowing women to work in food service, the shooting range and the parking lot at the Grove-which was forced on them by the California Supreme Court-they have remained defiantly a male-only organization. Class discrimination continues as well. New Club applicants must be sponsored by two existing members before being considered for admittance. By the early 1880s, Bohemian Club members began conducting summer camping trips to the Sonoma County redwoods. The summer encampments proved so popular that the Club began purchasing land along the Russian River in 1899. By the 1960s the Bohemian Club owned 2,712 acres, including a 1,500-year-old grove of redwoods, adjacent to the small town of Monte Rio. The Bohemian Grove summer encampments have become one of the most famous private men's retreats in the world. Club members and several hundred world-class guests gather annually in the last weeks of July to recreate what has been called the greatest men's party on earth. Spanning three weekends, the outdoor event includes lectures, entertainment, rituals, plays, theater, friendship re-affirmations, lots of hosted camp parties, political discussions, sideline business meetings and huge amounts of food and alcohol. Bohemian Grove offers daily lectures known as lakeside chats. The Under-Secretary of the Navy may give an off-the-record speech on military budget issues, or the President of Mexico may address global free trade. Whatever the topic, those present emerge with a sense of insider awareness of high-level policy issues and political situations which are often yet-to-be, or perhaps never-to-be, publicly articulated. One such chat in 1994, given by a University of California political science professor, warned of the dangers of multi-culturalism, Afro-centrism, and the loss of family boundaries. He declared that elites based on merit and skill are important to society. Any elite that fails to define itself will fail to survive We need boundaries and values set and clear. He went on to conclude that we cannot allow the unqualified masses to carry out policy, and elites must set values that can be translated into standards of authority. Foremost at
[CTRL] If you've never been to DC - MEM - Religious Opinions-compressed.jpg
If you've never been to Washington DC, there are a few farces I thought you might like to see. Seeing these things made me angry because it made me realize that all the monuments and memorials around Washington DC are the biggest joke in the United States. They might as well tear these things down because it's awfully depressing to walk through these things. I don't think the government really holds any of these things true. The FDR images are from the Franklin Delano Roosevelt section and the MEM images are from a particular area... I don't remember what it was called, but in the top right corner of the MEM images I pasted a small picture of the outside of the building. You will probably recognize it. There are five images which I compressed a lot to make the file sizes smaller. If you want higher quality versions of these images, contact me. They won't be any larger in dimensions, but they will be less compressed. If you want the full, uncropped and rather large images, please mention it in the e-mail or I'm sending the smaller, but less compressed copy. Pictures were taken with a Fuji disposable camera and burned onto CD's by the photo lab. Damaeus attachment: MEM - Religious Opinions-compressed.jpg
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[CTRL] Test post, please ignore
-Caveat Lector- Didn't I TELL you to ignore it? snort __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gaijin Go Home
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 06/11/2001 9:57:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some of the Muslims protesting in recent days have reminded the vandals about the fate of Hitoshi Igarashi, a professor of Islamic studies, who was stabbed to death by unidentified assailants in Tokyo in 1991 after translating Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses into Japanese. Muslims believe the novel ridicules their religion. Iran's religious rulers condemned Rushdie to death, and the author went into hiding. How interesting. Apparently the Moslem clerics in Iran are controlling the thinking of the Moslems in Japan. It would be even more interesting to know who is the leader of Japan's Moslems and just how he is directing their actions. I wonder what Mohammed would say upon discovering that the words he uttered see to have become less meaningful than the material upon which they are printed? Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The ghost of Tim McVeigh
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 06/11/2001 9:14:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Never in my life have I witnessed such a rush by Washington to put someone to death and certainly not when so many unanswered questions still lingered around him and the terrorist atrocity he certainly helped plan and carry out. Fascinating isn't it? One posting mentioned that they had made a practice of shredding the paper trash in his cell. The Government has never been interested in justice, closure, and the various sentiments of victims before this execution. I don't know what they have to hide that they're so worried about, but it certainly makes me curious. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Goodbye from 'snetnews@topica.com' (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Well Mr. Bacon - he still has Bob Worn with him always from what I have heard. Such a nice letter you should get a new name long enough to respond. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CNNnews: Supreme Court Rules In Favor of School Religious Meetings
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Bill Howard wrote: This should have the anti-Christians on the CTRL list going ballistic. Well, I rarely see anyone whom you would deem 'anti-Christian' 'going ballistic' to the extent the so-called Christians do when they find they can't impose their superstition onto the rest of society. I wonder how you and the rest of your so-called Christians will feel when this school system not only has to allow the Christian prayer group to meet in school facilities, but when non-Christian religious groups start demanding the same 'right'... Will you be as happy when Muslims or Wiccans or Satanists hold their own prayer meetings in the school after hours? If you allow one flavor of religion, then you have to allow all June Check out the nonstop beachparty at Alternative Kite Summer radio: http://www.live365.com/stations/250951 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Information.... please
-Caveat Lector- Folks, I subscribe here to get information - from every side of every issue, hopefully. I don't expect to agree with every post and the most irritating posts are the ones I learn the most about the world and myself from. That said, I also don't expect all interaction among subscribers to disappear. Arguments about religion and politics don't really inform other than about the participants, and guessing why someone is combative on certain topics is just noise. And that is one of best tactics the big-picture conspirators use - get the populace listening to noise or making it themselves and they will be sufficiently distracted to keep them from getting too close to the conspiracy. Just like a killdeer leads me away from its nest by making a commotion and noise over there. Don't stop the racket on my account - I'm just pointing out that it stops the flow of information better than anything else. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Spy News] Another death in Zimbabwe farm invasions (fwd)
Tuesday June 12, 5:16 PM Another death in Zimbabwe farm invasions http://sg.news.yahoo.com/010612/1/vot9.html HARARE, June 12 (AFP) - An employee on a white-owned farm near Harare has died after farm workers clashed with squatters at the weekend, police said Tuesday. Zondiwa Dumukani, an employee on Blackfordby Farm on the southern outskirts of Harare, died late Sunday after two days of violence on the farm, police spokesman Wayne Bvudzijena told AFP. A total of 29 people, including the farm's owner Richard Thorne, were arrested on charges of public violence on Saturday and Sunday, Bvudzijena said. Thorne and 26 of his employees were released on 500 dollar (nine US dollar) bail Monday, the state-run Herald newspaper reported Tuesday. Thorne was also charged with inciting violence and paid another 5,000 dollars (90 US dollars) bail and had to surrender his passport, the paper said. No one has been charged with Dumukani's death, Bvudzijena said. Police are still investigating the case, he added. Bvudzijena said the violence began Saturday when a group of farm workers attacked illegal squatters on the farm. Fifteen people were injured, two seriously, he said. State television had reported Saturday that one woman lost her finger when she tried to defend herself from an axe blow. The next day, violence broke out again. Dumukani was attacked in the morning and was dead upon arrival at hospital later Sunday, Bvudzijena said. Blackfordby Farm and neighboring Stoneridge Farm have repeatedly suffered violence since self-styled veterans of Zimbabwe's liberation war began the farm invasions more than one year ago. At the peak of the invasions, squatters had occupied 1,700 farms in defiance of repeated court orders. Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe openly supports the invasions, and last week said his violence-wracked land reforms should be intensified to honor the memory of war veterans leader Chenjerai Hitler Hunzvi, who died on June 4. The idea of land reform to correct colonial-era inequities in land ownership is widely supported by both black and white Zimbabweans. But Mugabe's scheme has been heavily tied to political violence targetting the upstart Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), which has posed the most serious challenge ever to his 21-year rule. About 40 people have died in political violence or in the farm invasions during the last year in Zimbabwe, while thousands more have suffered beatings, rapes, kidnappings or other intimidation.
Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...
-Caveat Lector- If anyone seriously believes any of the stories, I have a bridge in Brooklyn and some swampland in Florida I'm sure you'd be interested in buying... ;-) June Check out the nonstop beachparty at Alternative Kite Summer radio: http://www.live365.com/stations/250951 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The ghost of Tim McVeigh
-Caveat Lector- The laws of the physical universe really work against a non-nuclear ground-level bomb doing that much damage that far above ground level. My gut response the first time I saw the damage was that it had to have been struck by a particle-beam weapon from above, simultaneous to the truck bomb exploding. Good cover but not convincing unless you want to believe one bomb and one man did it. Unfortunately, most people would rather believe than think. McVeigh's truck bomb did not kill 168 people. It couldn't have, according to top explosives experts who examined the forensic evidence. The government knows this. There were other bombs involved. Investigators at the scene reported finding two other unexploded devices. Whatever happened to those critical pieces of evidence? Probably the same thing that happened to other evidence that didn't fit neatly into the FBI's pre-conceived lone bomber theory it was deep-sixed. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Steve accuses Amelia
-Caveat Lector- The best conspiracy of all is the one that has convinced people their differences are political in nature. But not that long ago it was easy to convince some people that certain homo sapiens are somehow sub-human even though they are genetically identical. When people see their commonalities instead of their differences, conspiracy fails. But don't hold your breath waiting for that. Liberals sure aren't very liberal when it comes to a conservative viewpoint. Yup, sho' nouh, intolerance is one of the warning signs of a closet liberal. BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The ghost of Tim McVeigh
-Caveat Lector- Well Prudy, this closure stuff was overdone by the press, and it is though a police term Case Closed? For instance as of late Joshua2 closed the case on the USS Liberty himself - yet the case still remains open and for a hundred years because this matter was covered up - the case will never close. So they close the book?Years ago when I was being followined arond by the Hounds from Hell, this one man actually followed me into the library -I ignored him - he would get on other side of books and leer at me until I just sat on the floor and waited for him to leave - I read a book nearly. So as I left the library - I heard this very loud noise and without thinking, looked and I wish I had not for there stood this man - he had slammed a huge book closing same which was a message I got - he was first getting my attention, and second stating they had closed the book and to lay off. Might add he was not tall and handsome like most of these guys who had een obiously higher class FBI types - this guy had a face like that guy who played in Men in Black named Jones? Only meaner. Case Closed - Closure? Ones who carry the most hate often carry the most guilt - like Goldman's father who now makes fast bucks and Nicole Sim[son's sister now dressing like movie star smiling making big bucks profitting with lots of smiles now.Case closed here? Well yes, but Goldman carried all the guilt with his professed tough love did he call it? What did he do to his son and why the touch love. People will be writing books on OJ system a hundred years from now, for he was set free in one case, and condemned in another.F. Lee Bailey was the only real lawyer OJ had..Goldman was a handsome young man - but let me give youi a bible code clue re OJ..this story, I will use Jerry Falwell/s interpretation of the woman who meets a bitter end.OJ is alleged to have seen her commiting an obscene act with his children in the home - in Saudi Arabia I think they heap a few tons of bricks on people for doing what they were doing. OJ played golf with Clinton in March; but in June his wife was dead - John Gotti hated OJ enough to put a million dollar contract on him from his prison cell - only thing I could find re OJ possible connection and Gotti, was that Gotti lost some big money on the here we go again the Buffalo Bills...(Buffalo Gal Won't You Come out tonight) Proverbs 7 - Jerry Falwell's explanation in deciphering what many do not or care not to understand. For she has decked her bed with myrrh of Arabia and the cinnamon of AfricaCome, is her plea for the goodman, her husband is gone, and all is eady for them to ejoy a ight of conjugal bliss.All that is lacking is consent, and that he is only too eage to give. He goes as an OX to the slaughter (Old Ox Road) and is fettered in the stocks like a bid caught in a trap (Saba Note: Elvis Presley, Caught in a Trap and I Can't get Out). But the great tragedy is that he does not realize that it will ost him his life. The liver was prominent in ancient writings as the seat of sexual desire. A dart will strike through his liver. This can mean the husband will return and kill the offenders both man and woman, or HAVE OTHERS WHO ARE LEGALLY APPOINTED TO DO SO KILL THEM [Saba Note: Legal contract killing for did someone made a covenant for death]..it may be, however, that our young man was his own assassinmany stron men havae been slain by her, and the hambers of hr house are in reality the chambers of death.. Now this particular Liberty Bible with Commentary was copyrighted in 1983 - and one day I received a whole set of these books without ordering same and at the time it came out that Teddy Kennedy had received this very same set, without asking and it was considered a joke possibly. Anyway I told them if you want those books have them picked up - nobody did. So this is example of reading along in a bible with my bible calendar and sometimes Jerry Falwells very explicit commentary. OJ Simpson case the police might have closed it, but a lot of writers have not..the attorney F. Lee Bailey believed it was a pretty good set up .even reference to Kiss the Son in the PsalmsSunkist Orange Juice? And we have Estee Lauder's Youth Dew - Thou Has the Dew of Thy Youth from a psalm.and Xerox, well was a King Xerexes (spelling??) who was noted for copying letters.they all have one thing in common. So OJ liked orange juice and Timothy McVeigh liked making fertilizer bombs, and the weight on that bomb is now said to have been 7 thousand pounds? First it was 2, then 4 thousand pounds and it keeps getting bigge with the stories.The Never Ending Stories So Timothy McVeigh left a few messages in the Gideon BibleGideon was a good soldier, stupid and cowardly, but he was taught to hit and run, guerilla warfare..he took the GOLD FROM THE ISHMAELITES and was a mercenary killer
Re: [CTRL] The ghost of Tim McVeigh
-Caveat Lector- For anyone who read my last post, I forgot a big point - this Terry Nichols had a lot of gold, and it is said he got this gold in the Philipines.maybe some of the Marco's Gold? Now in the Philipines you have a virtual revolution in the making for the Moslems are angry.now the Japanese have virtually taken over the Philipines and it is not like it was in the days when a relative of mine was CO - where USA made little pygmies the one an Honorary Colonel for killing Japanese..Japan got more by losing the war, than winning the war but Japan seems to have a problem with Moslems these days too? Or are they really Moslems? So it was Gideon who took the gold from the Ishmalites? Is there also a hidden meaning here? For McVeigh was a good little Gideon, a real soldier not too swift and a Patsy though, for obviously someone else has the gold? Ever read how much gold Nicols had? Two edge sword cuts both ways but how much did it cost to make that 7,000 dollar bomb from fertilizer? So Gideon took the gold for his contract killingfor he was the 2nd greatest mercenary. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Looming danger of Arab population growth
-Caveat Lector- Assalamu'alaikum, Zionists warn of looming danger Arab population growth Occupied Jerusalem: 11 June, 2001 (IAP News) - Racist Zionists in the apartheid Israeli regime continued to warn against Arab demographic growth in Palestine, calling on the Israeli government and army to seriously take the looming danger into account. The right-wing Israeli newspaper, the Jerusalem Post reported on Monday that a new study by a University of Haifa Professor warned that Arab population within mandatory Palestine would soon outnumber Jews. Arnon Soffer was quoted as saying that we are at a crossroads where the situation, if it continues, will deteriorate on the demographic and socioeconomic fronts which will be like a time bomb just waiting to explode, he said. According to the professor, there are today five million Jews and five million non-Jews in Palestine. The later figure is composed of 4.5 million Arabs and the remainder non-Jewish immigrants, from the former Soviet Union. Soffer predicted that by the year 2020, he forecasts around 6.4 million Jews, based on population growth and an average of 50,000 immigrant settlers a year. As for the Arab growth, Soffer said he expected the Arab population to reach 8.5 million. He forecasted that the population in the Gaza Strip would grow to 2.5 million while the West Bank population would reach 4 million by 2020, with the Palestinian population in 1948-Palestine reaching two million. Soffer, apparently instigating against Arab demographic growth, urged the Zionist government and army to absorb these figures. Israel refuses to treat non-Jews on equal footing with Jews on the grounds that the Zionist state is for the Jews and that non-Jews would have to accept a subordinate status vis-à-vis Jews. Moreover, the powerful religious establishment in Israel refuses to recognize that all men, irrespective of their religious beliefs, are entitled to equal human and civil rights. ___ Proudly Serving Palestine and Al-Quds Islamic Association for Palestine___ _ 10661 South Roberts Rd, Suite 202 |_ _| / \ | _ \ Palos Hills, IL 60465| | / _ \ | |_) | Tel: 708 974 3380| | / ___ \ | __/ Fax: 708 974 3389 |___|/_/ \_\|_| E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.iap.org To subscribe to IAP-NET, send a message: subscribe IAP-NET in the body of your email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To unsubscribe, send a message: unsubscribe IAP-NET to [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Terry Nichols and his gold
-Caveat Lector- Wonder how much gold he had and where he got it. I have two ittle Jade statutes and jade comes high - these right from the orientnow gold that is a different matter and for a guy that was so broke and in such financial stress, well he had something stashed away. Nichols was a farmer..can you blame him for being angry? The weather modification program destroys the American Farmer and the big business today is Henry Kissinger's desire to corner market on food and genetic engineering destroying seeds and planting killer seeds - is this America - Nichols like other American Farmers - the Feds told them to find another occupation that there was no use for the small American Farmer anymore - everything going Monsanto and this is why cattle are dying over the world and the price of horse meat in Europe is at all time high - even horses aborting these days and they do to the American Farmer who put food upon the tables, the Mark of Cain? Cain murdered his brother - God was not satisfied with a peaceful offering of crops.wanted blood sacrifice - so Nichols had peaceful offerings of crops but that was not enough - so God got what he wanted - blood and gore..for a true Gideon does exactly as God orders - Gideon Style? Now in Japan they have very strick gun laws so a guy gets a 9 inch knife and slaughters the innocents.. So we see how the Feds pushed and provoked Nichols until he got involved in the slaughter of the innocents but what would one expect from a government that incinerates little kids at Waco, shoots a mother's face off as she holds a baby, and murders a dog to draw out a little 8th grader, in order to murder him? Do people have a right to be frightened? We there are some real men in this country who are not frightened - and behind every tree is someone capable of taking the law into their own handsfor as the US Supreme Court ruled when government becomes so odious it can no longer be tolerated, the people have a right to abolish same - and they did not say how you would do that. America born at business end of gun and will either survive or die in the same manner. The makings of a real Sodom and Gomorrah here in the USA today .. So the Feds told Terry Nichols to get out of the farming business and find a new occupation. Evidently he followed their directive. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Spy News] Another death in Zimbabwe farm invasions (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Well for one thing the Zimbabwe's now plead for corn and food - for none of them have the brains to grow weeds. Second, they are dying from AIDS in South Africa and black professionals, the doctors and nurses, all flee to England and other parts of world. Africa is dying...this is what is what the UN and NWO have planned for USA for by their fruits you shall know them all. When the Clinton's take a vow of povery, and hell freezes over - I will believe the UN is a Humanitarian Order and not run by Murder, Inc.they might have us outnumbered at the UN but we got them outgunned in the US. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Fw: notsofast- sounds like a job for BOB
-Caveat Lector- 'What the hell you doing reading my mail then June if it is personal.. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...
-Caveat Lector- Steve - June has some Florida swamp land she would like to sell and a bridge somewhere..thought you might be interested. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: gore vidal on mcveigh
JUST GOT THIS FROM A PAL: http://www.freekentucky.com/stryarch01/discomfort.htm McVeigh Vidal discomfit the newswhores Carl F. Worden June 11, 2001 Timothy McVeigh was put to death this morning. He was pronounced deadat 8:14 am(et) in the federal death house at Terre Haute, Indiana. Only 232 of a possible 1100 plus relatives of his Oklahoma Citybombing victims bothered to view the execution via direct link toOklahoma City. Among those who were invited by McVeigh to witness his execution in person was noted author Gore Vidal.If my instincts serve me as they usually do, Vidal will be writing his own book about Timothy McVeigh that will prove to be most unsettling to the government that just killed him. A few weeks ago I caught the end of a CNN interview between Mr. Vidal and CNN correspondent Catherine Crier. You could see Crier's skin crawling when Vidal correctly pointed out that the victims of Oklahoma City would all be alive today if the government hadn't protected the federal agents who gassed and barbecued an entire church congregation in Waco, Texas in 1993. Crier blurted something about it never being appropriate to take matters into one's own hands, and that we are not to settle such matters violently in this democracy of ours. Vidal went even further in observing that when a government has gone so far out of control that it begins murdering its own citizens and then covering it up, the citizens have no other option than armed resistance. Visibly shaken and caught completely off guard, Crier shot back something about That's not done in a democracy again, and abruptly terminated the interview as politely and expeditiously as her wits would allow. I was amused, to say the least, and I won't count on seeing Gore Vidal being interviewed on CNN again anytime soon -- if ever. But I am definitely looking forward to reading Mr. Vidal's book, which, if his interview with Catherine Crier is any indication, should be a real barn burner. Governments have always labeled terrorists as cowards, but any thinking person knows that is just not true. Those two men who stood and saluted each other as their C4-packed rubber boat exploded and nearly sank the USS Cole in the harbor at Yemen looked certain death right in the eye and didn't blink. So did Timothy McVeigh this morning, and so have all those suicide bombers harrassing the government of Israel. While we might rightly condemn an act of terror so mindless and cruel as that of McVeigh's, and grudgingly admire a successful attack on a major warship, as that in Yemen, the one thing we can all agree upon is that your average terrorist is anything but a coward. John F. Kennedy correctly warned that taking all the peaceful, legal and non-violent means to secure justice away from the people would guarantee violent resistance, and he was right: Waco, and the resultant bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City is a perfect case study. All that was needed to complete that recipe for death and destruction was a corrupt Clinton Administration and a gutless, weak and compromised Congress. The government had done a great many terrible and unjust things to individuals in the past, and the occasional bombing of an IRS office here and there was a measure of that, but no one, except our worst citizens, were prepared to emotionally absorb, accept and forgive an FBI sniper who could coolly and cruelly shoot a young mother in the face who was armed with nothing more than her ten-month-old suckling daughter. When the government protected the monsters responsible for that outrage at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, and then followed up by protecting the feds responsible for gassing and immolating 19 little innocent children in that church at Waco, I knew there would be a response. There had to be a response: You can't televise that kind of government mischief to 280 million Americans, follow it up by protecting the guilty, and not expect at least one of them to do something harsh. If he was going to put his life on the line for something, I only wish McVeigh would have had the decency to target the truly guilty. --
[CTRL] Fwd: [NA] More on the McVeigh / Oklahoma Cover-up
Caveat Lector Caveat Credo PREThose who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything. attributed to Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin [One option available to help Citizens for a Fair Vote Count fund 50 organizers to rescue America -- to restore honest elections and teach Americans how to become active and effective in the 300,000 precincts across the nation -- is to do yourself a favor by going to A HREF= http://newlife.electriclife.net http://newlife.electriclife.net/A and see the information there regarding the strangest nutritional secret -- electric nutrition.] /PRE June 11, 2001 NA (Network America) e-wire More on the McVeigh / Oklahoma Cover-up As accurately predicted on this e-wire last night, released to this list five hours before the execution -- McVeigh said nothing to the world when he had the opportunity to address the world wide forum right before his execution. Instead, he allegedly ordered the prison authorities to pass out a copy of the famous poem Invictus written by William Ernest Henley more than a century ago, which some news sources reported was passed out AFTER McVeigh was pronounced dead. At the end of this shorter e-wire, there is the treat of Micheal Hoffmans offering on the affair McVeigh. The strategy of authorities to ruthlessly keep McVeigh from speaking directly to the public without an establishment filter -- held till the very end. Was he even told that he would have an opportunity to say final words to the onlookers? Did he know that the poem Invictus was being passed out in his name? Did he view himself as playing an assigned role in this whole incident, and would be merely put to sleep and given another identity? Or did he expect to be killed? Was he killed, or wasnt he? (While I dont take this last possibility seriously at this point no less a light than Colonel Bo Gritz stated on Chris Matthews Hardball on CNBC tonight that one observer claims to have seen McVeigh still drawing very shallow breathes after he was pronounced dead. Gritz was saying this in mild mocking and clearly NOT buying it himself, adding this thing is going to grow like the Kennedy Assassination.) Get this! According to MSNBC in the overnight news on June 12, 2001, --McVeigh has already been cremated (allegedly) at a funeral home in Terre Haute, Indiana! The truth about his cremation does not exactly provide the kind of irrefutable proof of McVeighs death I would have hoped for. Some news outlets said his body would be released to his family for cremation. NOT TRUE! Strangely, none of McVeighs family was even in the city of his execution. Take a look at this article from the May 4, 2001 Washington Post by Lois Romano: After he is declared dead by a coroner, his remains will be released to Nigh for cremation. Nigh said that he will never reveal where McVeigh wishes the ashes to be scattered, but he denied rumors that McVeigh has requested they be left at the site of the bombing. NA comment: Robert Nigh was one of McVeighs government approved attorneys. I dont trust any of these government approved attendants around McVeigh. Why the rush to cremation? Kind of reminds me of rushed cremation of JFK Jr. and his wife, and her sister at sea. Some of even the most faithful readers of this e-wire may feel it down right wacky to even raise the possibility that McVeigh was not killed today; I believe he was, although I do consider it a real possibility that he was double crossed by his handlers. I dont see any percentage in the Powers-That-Be keeping him alive. All I know is that the depth of deception and cover-up being practiced by the Shadow Government and their Big Media in this matter causes all kinds of wacky questions to occur to my mind. The thorough gagging of McVeigh from speaking directly to the public -- is reminiscent of the placing of Adolph Eichmann in a glass, soundproof cage during his 1961 trial in Israel. Adolph Eichmann was the Nazi official in charge of the concentration camps. He was prosecuted for his part in the Third Reich in a 1961 trial in Israel after being captured by the Mossad (Isreali version of the CIA) in South America. The world was told Eichmann was kept in a glass cage because he deserved to be treated like a caged animal of course a cage with bars would have more effectively gotten that message across. The real reason for the sound proof glass cage was so that the Israeli officials could cut off the sound at a moments notice if Eichmann started to say anything outside of the approved the World Revolution Party Line about World War II. Eichmann was instrumental in working with high level Zionists (at that time the future leaders of the Israeli state such as Ben Gurion and Menachim Begin) in the 1930s to terrorize everyday Jews into leaving Europe for Palestine, as a prelude to the Zionist takeover of Palestine in shortly after World War II in 1948. Eichmann spoke Yiddish, visited Palestine
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Mobile phones may foil stealth bombers By Robert Uhlig in London America's multi-billion-dollar stealth bombers could be rendered obsolete by a British invention that uses existing mobile telephone masts to detect and track aircraft that were previously invisible to radar. US stealth fighters and bombers such as the F117, B1 and B2 played key roles in the Gulf and Kosovan wars as they are almost impossible to detect using conventional radar. However, the ease with which the mobile telephone mast system - developed at a laboratory in Hampshire - can be used to detect the aircraft has greatly concerned the military. Mr Peter Lloyd, the head of projects at Roke Manor Research, said: "I cannot comment in detail because it is a classified matter, but let's say the US military is very interested." Stealth aircraft, each of which costs at least $A3.6 billion, are shaped to confuse radar. A special paint absorbs radio waves, reducing the radar signature to the equivalent of a gull in flight. The Roke Manor scientists discovered that telephone calls sent between mobile phone masts detected the precise position of stealth aircraft with ease. "We use just the normal phone calls that are flying about in the ether," Mr Lloyd said. "The front of the stealth plane cannot be detected by conventional radar, but its bottom surface reflects very well." Mobile telephone calls bouncing between base stations produce a screen of radiation. When the aircraft fly through this screen they disrupt the phase pattern of the signals. The Roke Manor system uses receivers, shaped like television aerials, to detect distortions in the signals. A network of aerials large enough to cover a battlefield can be packed in a Land Rover. Using a laptop connected to the receiver network, soldiers on the ground can calculate the position of stealth aircraft with an accuracy of 10 metres with the aid of the GPS satellite navigation system. "It's remarkable that a stealth system that cost £60 billion [$158 billion] to develop is beaten by £100,000 mobile phone technology," Mr Lloyd said. "It's almost impossible to disable a mobile phone network without bombing an entire country, whereas radar installations are often knocked out of action with a single bomb or missile." The Telegraph, London [go to top] In this section Flailing Wahid hires and fires Mobile phones may foil stealth bombers Anti-terror head 'killed Palestinians in custody' Refugees stream out of Macedonia as rebels near Skopje Sleeping in helps family put nightmare behind them Executing the retarded 'sullying US reputation' Speight goes on outing to the circus, but must wait again for his day in court Man targeted elite school for killing spree 'because he wanted death penalty' Lacklustre monitoring of climate change leaves US in cold Site Guide | Archive | Feedback | Privacy Policy Copyright © 2001. All rights reserved.
[CTRL] Mobile phones may foil stealth bombers
I Mobile phones may foil stealth bombers By Robert Uhlig in London America's multi-billion-dollar stealth bombers could be rendered obsolete by a British invention that uses existing mobile telephone masts to detect and track aircraft that were previously invisible to radar. US stealth fighters and bombers such as the F117, B1 and B2 played key roles in the Gulf and Kosovan wars as they are almost impossible to detect using conventional radar. However, the ease with which the mobile telephone mast system - developed at a laboratory in Hampshire - can be used to detect the aircraft has greatly concerned the military. Mr Peter Lloyd, the head of projects at Roke Manor Research, said: "I cannot comment in detail because it is a classified matter, but let's say the US military is very interested." Stealth aircraft, each of which costs at least $A3.6 billion, are shaped to confuse radar. A special paint absorbs radio waves, reducing the radar signature to the equivalent of a gull in flight. The Roke Manor scientists discovered that telephone calls sent between mobile phone masts detected the precise position of stealth aircraft with ease. "We use just the normal phone calls that are flying about in the ether," Mr Lloyd said. "The front of the stealth plane cannot be detected by conventional radar, but its bottom surface reflects very well." Mobile telephone calls bouncing between base stations produce a screen of radiation. When the aircraft fly through this screen they disrupt the phase pattern of the signals. The Roke Manor system uses receivers, shaped like television aerials, to detect distortions in the signals. A network of aerials large enough to cover a battlefield can be packed in a Land Rover. Using a laptop connected to the receiver network, soldiers on the ground can calculate the position of stealth aircraft with an accuracy of 10 metres with the aid of the GPS satellite navigation system. "It's remarkable that a stealth system that cost £60 billion [$158 billion] to develop is beaten by £100,000 mobile phone technology," Mr Lloyd said. "It's almost impossible to disable a mobile phone network without bombing an entire country, whereas radar installations are often knocked out of action with a single bomb or missile." The Telegraph, London [go to top]
Re: [CTRL] The ghost of Tim McVeigh
-Caveat Lector- The ghost of Tim McVeigh How do we really know that McVeigh is dead? The execution witnesses saw him close his eyes and go to sleep - curtain closed. His body is to be cremated - no autopsy, never to be any future exhumation. For those who consider McVeigh a patsy or programmed for the purpose of discrediting anti government sentiment. McVeigh's execution offers no definitive answers. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Dr. Cease-Fire and Mr. Terror
-Caveat Lector- Dr. Cease-Fire and Mr. Terror By Yoel Marcus Over the past three decades, Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat has celebrated more cease-fires than birthdays. When he was in Jordan, he signed - and violated - cease-fire agreements on more than 20 occasions. When he was in Lebanon, he agreed - and violated - more than 30 cease-fire agreements with the militias there and with Israel. Instead of a Nobel Peace Prize, he should have been granted a doctorate in Cease-Fire Agreements and Their Violation. Between cease-fires, he continued to orchestrate acts of violence and murder. In short, a Dr. Cease-Fire and Mr. Terror. In the course of the present Intifada, Arafat is this week celebrating Cease-Fire No. 5, or, at least, the negotiations over that cease-fire. In his long history of terror-cease-fire-terror, he has not changed his tactics: Either he agrees to a cease-fire at the very moment he senses that the other side's patience has been exhausted or else he agrees to a cease-fire in order to extort something. If he has not obtained what he is after, he simply renews the fire. If he has obtained what he is after, he renews the fire in order to obtain more. Except for one occasion, when he supported Iraqi ruler Saddam Hussein, Arafat has always enjoyed Europe's support. Since they are all former colonial powers, the countries of Europe sympathize with his war against a foreign occupier. The members of the new generation of European leaders have not the faintest concept of world history and are not interested in delving into its hidden mysteries. Nor are they at all curious to know who wanted to slaughter whom in pre-1948 Palestine, who rejected the state granted to them in accordance with a UN General Assembly resolution, and who was willing to agree to a pint-sized country that consisted of territorial bits and pieces and that did not even include Jerusalem. http://www.haaretzdaily.com/htmls/kat9_2.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Conservative Book Collection Redux
I posted a query about my recently deceased moms conservative book collection Im in the process of liquidating. Several of you wanted the list when I had it completed. Alas, a computer switch in mid-cataloging and I lost all but two of the inquiries. Please contact me off list if you would like a copy of the near 300 titles including many first editions, signed editions et al. C.
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] THE PATSEY SPEAKS NO MORE!!
not so fast. i don't believe he's dead. Dan Hopsicker With an exact ATF double and the services of Dr. Jolyan West the sky is the limit for speculation about government deception regarding Tim McVeigh. I do not think there is evidence for the TIM MADE A DEAL WITH THE GOVERNMENT theory. He did not have a deal with the government when the bomb was fused and it went off immediately. If McVeigh's passenger had not had last minute remorse McVeigh's body would have been found in the rubble. The following make this deal seem unlikely to me. 1) It is difficult to develop trust with those who would do this to you. 2) Could McVeigh engineer blackmail without an accomplice? No. 3) If McVeigh had an accomplice, would the government have other alternatives to meeting his demands --- like finding them and torturing them? 4) I speak frequently with the best friend of Nichol's brother, Bob Popovitch. He is not even certain the McVeigh he speaks with on the phone and meets with at the prison is not the McVeigh double. But he agrees that when the time for the real execution comes it will be the real McVeigh. Can you imagine a deal you could make in Tim's position that you would have confidence in? Keep in mind that the government is trying in the worst way to close the book on the whole affair. Death is very dependable. Living perpetrators are wild cards. Stu Webb says McVeigh's mentor Roger Moore worked for Oliver North and was even involved in the mining of Nicaragua. I thought I was the only person noticing all the IRAN/CONTRA PLAYERS swarming around the OKC BOMBING. Still I do not know if this is true. Stu also says Terry Nichols had worked for Tom Posey. If these facts are true it does not take a genus to guess that the operations side of the bombing was carried out by the ENTERPRISE. If anyone would be able to generate these inside associations it would be Stu's mentor Al Martin. This all seems like checkable information to me. I am asking you all to help me check it. Brian Brian Downing Quig wrote: Editor's note: Since many ask me about this, Yes I do intentionally use creative spelling exampled below to shake off censorship robots. One of the many things I learned from Fletcher Prouty was a healthy respect for FLAG WORDS. Flectcher Prouty explained that the first CREY super computers were not developed for NASA as congress was told but for the NSA so that their voice recognition software could FLAG all international voice communication. He said before he retired these computers could locate a single voice among 80,000 simultaneous telephone conversations. When we examine crimes like the JFK. MLK, RFK assassinations and the destruction of the DAVADIANS at Waco and the bombings of the WORLD TRADE CENTER and the MURRAH BUILDING it soon becomes clear that these perpetrators do not respect any laws let alone any moral or ethical concept. They believe like Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin believed that massive brutality can be used as a tool. So far history has crowned these men of action with success. Brian Downing Quig Brian Downing Quig wrote: Some one of the 200+ receiving this should post a short account of how Hitler and Himmler and the boys burned down the RIECHSTEADT and conned the German people into believing their political enemies did it. That is what we are seeing today. How do we know McVeigh did not act alone? One evidence resolving this question that literally consorts with the boys of the US government is none other than Col. Vincent Petrusky, a US policy maker himself almost on the level of Henry Kissinger. Another evidence is the 70 credible witnesses who saw other JOHN DOEs with McVeigh on the day of and the day before the bombing. But today common Americans are cheering the loss of one of their best sources of new information about what really happened in front of the Murrah Building April 19, 1995 --- just as they cheered Adoph Hitler in Germany and his solution to the RIECHSTEADT FIRE. I wonder if they will still be cheering as this day ends. Hitler and those who murdered JFK did not have an internet to contend with. Many will realize the benefits of investing in VASELINE futrues. I forsee a big run on this product as the day progresses. After McVeigh was arrested he was in a bad position for true communication with the outside world. There is no doubt in my mind that if Dr. Joylan West visited the prison while McVeigh was the high profile prisoner there, the mind control techniques of West were employed on McVeigh. When we add to this the fact that the BATF had an exact double of McVeigh who attended the Waco trials the means of public deception are endless. Even McVeigh's closest friends that he calls by phone are not certain it is the real McVeigh. Who benefited from this terrible crime? Clinton. Then Clinton gave $800 to the anti terror
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: THE PATSEY SPEAKS NO MORE!!
He's dead, but the complete "who dunnit" remains unresolved. Ever hear of Brig. Gen. Benton Partin? Ever read the report he submitted to U.S. Sen. Don Nickles (R-Okla.)? It's very interesting. Short version: one 4000+ lbs. ANFO bomb could not have done the damage to Murrah, that was done. There had to be other bombs planted in the bldg. Ever read the report of Dr. William Whitehurst? Former director of the FBI Crime Lab? Ever read why he resigned? Short version: the FBI crime lab backed its way into the conclusion that McVeigh and Nichols acted alone in planning and executing the bombing. Much evidence was cast aside and disregarded. Ever hear about how McVeigh was nabbed? He was driving a hooptie, sans tags, on I-45, heading north out of OKC shortly after the explosion. He had all sorts of incriminating evidence on his person, and in the old station wagon he was driving. So, he was smart enough to plan and carry out the worst terrorist act in US history, but not smart enough to plan the get away. Come on. Ever hear of Carol Elizabeth Howe? The ATF informant at Elohim City? She reported to her ATF "handlers" in Tulsa, in December 1994 (4 mos. before the bombing), that she had driven to Murrah with Andreas Strassmeier and Dennis Mahon, and that they were clearly "casing" the joint as a potential bomb site. ATF agents were conspicuously absent from their offices in Murrah at 9 a.m., on April 19, 1995. Ever hear of Mickey Maroney? Mick was a Secret Service agent, assigned to the White House till January 1995, when he was transferred to Murrah for reasons not made clear to him. His niece called me after I gave a radio interview in Columbus, Ohio, in 1997, discussing my book "Circle of Death." She said, "Uncle Mickey gathered his family together in late January and told them he'd heard, thru the grapevine, that someone was planning to bomb the building where he worked (Murrah). He told them he'd bought two new term life policies, just in case. He had a bad feeling about his transfer. He said, 'maybe I just know too much.'" Maroney was killed in the explosion on April 19, 1995. Just thought you might be interested in some of this. Odom NOT PROOFED FOR TYPOS Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Please let us stay on topic and be civil. To unsubscribe please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs -Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [CTRL] The ghost of Tim McVeigh
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [NA] More on the McVeigh / Oklahoma Cover-up
-Caveat Lector- I dont see any percentage in the Powers-That-Be keeping him alive. How about as an example? The next time they need one of the boys to take a fall, and pretend to die, they can show him McVeigh and say, See, we wouldn't REALLY kill you . . . A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Christian Club May Not Meet
---Original Message--- (http://news.excite.com:80/news/ap/010612/09/news-scotus-religion) News Article: Christian Club May Not MeetBy RIK STEVENS, Associated Press WriterMILFORD, N.Y. (AP) - Though the nation's highest court has ruled that the Christian Good News Club has the right to gather at a public school, the Bible study group may never actually meet in the building.Milford Central School district officials are weighing two options in response to the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling Monday: barring all groups from meeting there or pushing starting times back for all clubs until 5 p.m. or 6 p.m., a few hours after students are dismissed.The Rev. Stephen Fournier, organizer of the Good News Club, said the second choice wouldn't work because the group wants to meet directly after school so it can reach the most students."That rules out the club meeting at the school," said Fournier, pastor at Milford Community Bible Church. "The best opportunity for us to reach the kids was right after school."Superintendent Peter Livshin said the school board planned to meet Thursday to begin talking about a new policy and would have new rules in place before the beginning of the next school year.In 1996, Fournier and his wife, Darleen, requested access to Milford's K-12 school so young children could learn Scripture, play games and listen to Bible stories. When they were denied, they sued, arguing the district allowed other groups like the Boy Scouts and 4-H use the facilities.The district countered that permitting Good News Club meetings would amount to a school endorsement of Christianity - that very young children attending its 3 p.m. gatherings might believe the school endorsed the club's religious outlook."It has nothing to do with school," Darleen Fournier said Monday. "It's just using a school building after hours," "We don't want the government mandating prayer over the public address system or something like that."The club first won and then lost federal court permission to use school space. Last year, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against the club, calling its activities "quintessentially religious."By a 6-3 vote Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that once Milford opened its doors to after-school civic meetings with a moral theme, the school district could not exclude an evangelism club without violating First Amendment free-speech rights."We always said this was a free speech issue," Fournier said. "This ruling is going to affect clubs all across the country. Any time you're fighting for a freedom, everybody benefits."The case from this village in upstate New York became a closely watched church-state battle. Groups ranging from the National Council of Churches to the American Civil Liberties Union filed friend-of-the-court briefs.David Ernst of the New York State School Boards Association said the ruling will certainly affect other school districts."Districts are going to have to be aware that when they make a decision to give access to some groups, the implications of this decision is that they are not able to deny access to groups like the Good News Club," Ernst said.Milford straddles Route 28 midway between the National Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown and the National Soccer Hall of Fame in Oneonta. In the community, even at the school of 530 students, the legal fight caused few ripples."I admire the Good News Club for their tenacity in pursuing something they believe in. It's what this country is all about," said Livshin, who nonetheless disagreed with the court's ruling. _Bravenet IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] We have a Court date: July 20, NYC (details enclosed)
June 12, 2001 Please Distribute Widely Dear Colleagues, The first hearing in the case of Banamex (Citigroup) vs. Mario Menéndez, Al Giordano and the Narco News Bulletin has been scheduled: Friday, July 20th, 2001 9:30 a.m. New York State Supreme Court, Manhattan District 71 Thomas Street, Courtroom 205 (see below for directions) Hon. Justice Paula Omansky, presiding This is a hearing on oral arguments on motions to dismiss. Attorney Martin Garbus will represent Mario Menéndez Attorney Tom Lesser will represent The Narco News Bulletin I will represent myself The lawyer-lobbyist firm of Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer and Feld will represent Banamex. At this stage of the case, the debate will be centered around whether Banamex has acted properly in even bringing this lawsuit in New York City, when it has faced defeat three times already in Mexican courts. Particularly at stake here is the larger issue of free speech on the Internet. If the National Bank of Mexico can sue a web site published from Mexico, over stories investigated, reported and uploaded from Mexico (to a datacenter in Maryland), and sue that web site in New York, that would set a dangerous precedent that chills speech throughout the Internet. It would mean that any one of 1.4 billion web pages on the Internet could be dragged into the most expensive (and backlogged) court system in the world or any venue across the globe by wealthy interests who seek to censor investigative reporting and commentary on their or their owners' activities. See The Narco News Bulletin motion to dismiss for more details: http://www.narconews.com/narconewsmotion1.html And see my own Pro Se motion to dismiss for a clear understanding of why this lawsuit is frivolous and without merit, and never should have been brought: http://www.narconews.com/agmotion1.html In the coming days, the Banamex attorneys will file their rebuttals to these motions. We will then have a very short time to correct their rebuttal, which means that we need an immediate influx of funds for the defense. If you've donated already, thank you. If you could make another contribution, now is the crunch time. We expect Akin Gump to flood us with paperwork in the coming days in its continuing attempt to wear us out and distract us from reporting on the war on drugs in Latin America, of which that law firm profits as well. If you haven't donated already, please do so. We have gotten this far in the process because small donations from many people have added up. But our tank is empty right now at this crucial moment. Please make a check out to Drug War on Trial and send it to: Drug War on Trial c/o Attorney Tom Lesser Lesser, Newman, Souweine and Nasser 39 Main Street Northampton, MA 01060 You can also make a contribution by credit card through the PayPal service, via the internet. Go to: https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=narconews%40hotmail.com ...and follow the instructions to contribute to Drug War on Trial, with an address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your support got us this far. Now, we finally get a hearing before the the Judge. Please make plans to attend this important hearing (we'll be inviting you soon to a related event in New York City). And please help us get ready to make our case on this date. Again, that's Friday, July 20th, 9:30 a.m. at the New York State Supreme Court, 71 Thomas Street, room 205. (Directions enclosed.) from somewhere in a country called América, Al Giordano Publisher The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe for free alerts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/narconews Directions from the New York State Supreme Court, Manhattan District: Our court is located in four facilities. All are located on or near Foley Square in lower Manhattan. Foley Square is situated approximately two blocks from the entrance ramp to the Brooklyn Bridge. The main courthouse is located at 60 Centre Street. There is a satellite facility at 80 Centre Street (across Worth Street). Courtrooms of several Justices and other segments of the court are located here. A number of Justices have Chambers at 111 Centre Street. Finally, 71 Thomas Street, which is several blocks west of Foley Square, at the corner of West Broadway, houses courtrooms and Chambers for several Justices. Our facilities can be reached easily by public transportation: BY SUBWAY On the East side of Manhattan, take the Lexington Avenue line (Nos. 4, 5, 6) and get off at BROOKLYN BRIDGE/CITY HALL. On the West side, take the IRT Broadway line (Nos. 1,2,3,9) and get off at CHAMBERS STREET; then walk four blocks east to Centre Street and turn left into Foley Square. BY BUS Take the M 101 or the M 102 down Lexington Avenue to City Hall, or take the M 15 down Second Avenue. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] THE PATSEY SPEAKS NO MORE!!
Ever hear of Mickey Maroney? Mick was a Secret Service agent, assigned to the White House till January 1995, when he was transferred to Murrah for reasons not made clear to him. His niece called me after I gave a radio interview in Columbus, Ohio, in 1997, discussing my book "Circle of Death." She said, "Uncle Mickey gathered his family together in late January and told them he'd heard, thru the grapevine, that someone was planning to bomb the building where he worked (Murrah). He told them he'd bought two new term life policies, just in case. He had a bad feeling about his transfer. He said, 'maybe I just know too much.'" Maroney was killed in the explosion on April 19, 1995. I had not known of these graphic details which fit into the scenario of the bombing I perceive. Carol Howe was intended to be the witness tying McVeigh to ELOHIM CITY for the PRIMARY SCAPE GOAT SCENARIO --- DOMESTIC TERRORISTS IN LEAGUE WITH FOREIGN TERRORISTS. When that scenario was scrubbed Carol Howe became a colossal embarrassment for the BATF. But no problem. The American public is infinitely gullible. Everything Howe said was just made to seem like coincidence. It did not have anything to do with the bombing. McVeigh, Roger Moore and Strassmier met at at least two gun shows. But nothing came of those meetings. When it comes to assassinations Americans are religious believers in coincidence. Brian Downing Quig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's dead, but the complete "who dunnit" remains unresolved. Ever hear of Brig. Gen. Benton Partin? Ever read the report he submitted to U.S. Sen. Don Nickles (R-Okla.)? It's very interesting. Short version: one 4000+ lbs. ANFO bomb could not have done the damage to Murrah, that was done. There had to be other bombs planted in the bldg. Ever read the report of Dr. William Whitehurst? Former director of the FBI Crime Lab? Ever read why he resigned? Short version: the FBI crime lab backed its way into the conclusion that McVeigh and Nichols acted alone in planning and executing the bombing. Much evidence was cast aside and disregarded. Ever hear about how McVeigh was nabbed? He was driving a hooptie, sans tags, on I-45, heading north out of OKC shortly after the explosion. He had all sorts of incriminating evidence on his person, and in the old station wagon he was driving. So, he was smart enough to plan and carry out the worst terrorist act in US history, but not smart enough to plan the get away. Come on. Ever hear of Carol Elizabeth Howe? The ATF informant at Elohim City? She reported to her ATF "handlers" in Tulsa, in December 1994 (4 mos. before the bombing), that she had driven to Murrah with Andreas Strassmeier and Dennis Mahon, and that they were clearly "casing" the joint as a potential bomb site. ATF agents were conspicuously absent from their offices in Murrah at 9 a.m., on April 19, 1995. Ever hear of Mickey Maroney? Mick was a Secret Service agent, assigned to the White House till January 1995, when he was transferred to Murrah for reasons not made clear to him. His niece called me after I gave a radio interview in Columbus, Ohio, in 1997, discussing my book "Circle of Death." She said, "Uncle Mickey gathered his family together in late January and told them he'd heard, thru the grapevine, that someone was planning to bomb the building where he worked (Murrah). He told them he'd bought two new term life policies, just in case. He had a bad feeling about his transfer. He said, 'maybe I just know too much.'" Maroney was killed in the explosion on April 19, 1995. Just thought you might be interested in some of this. Odom NOT PROOFED FOR TYPOS Please let us stay on topic and be civil. To unsubscribe please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs -Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[CTRL] TRITIUM PRODUCING CAPABILITIES AT THE BELLEFONTE NUCLEAR PLANT.
-Caveat Lector- Other areas of the country besides California have tremendous energy problems. If the topography were flat, I could possibly see the towers of this nuclear plant. This is one of the reasons our electricity is so expensive in this area for Bellefonte has never produces the first kilowatt of electricity. Oh, we have had the fuel rods brought there and taken away and brought there and taken away but all for naught. Mid-construction, completion was delayed pending safety concerns and redesigns. By the time it as decided to complete this facility, under the watchful eye of the Clinton Administration, some 30 factories in the area had closed. There was no longer a need for the power it was to have produced with the closing of that many factories, practically all the industry in the area. This placed the people not only out of jobs but facing the cost of paying the $5 Billion invested in the plant that was mothballed. Ever eager to recover money, TVA has twice tried to turn it into a coal-gasification plant and then there is the Tritium threat below. Following that is an article on Senator Sessions wanting it to finally be completed. There was sufficient outcry concerning the production of Tritium locally that, hopefully, that will not happen but we locally will be the last to know. I fear it will be a combination of both. So why should you care? Well, you might for Sessions (see second article) is also proposing some sort of tax credit and reward for anybody who brings a new nuclear plant on line. He says 125 nuclear plants have been approved and only 103 are working. Maybe you, too, can have your very own Bellefonte. ~Amelia~ SJR7 By Senator(s) By Senator Barron Enrolled, SJR7, URGING THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY AUTHORITY TO EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING TRITIUM PRODUCING CAPABILITIES AT THE BELLEFONTE NUCLEAR PLANT. WHEREAS, this legislative body strongly endorses a thorough analysis of a proposed joint venture of the United States Department of Energy and the Tennessee Valley Authority to enable the Bellefonte Nuclear Plant to produce both tritium and electrical power; and WHEREAS, highly cognizant that the citizens of Alabama have always supported a strong national defense, as well as a safe environment, we think this unique multifaceted use of the Bellefonte Plant will ensure a reliable domestic source of tritium, a key triggering component in nuclear weapons, in an economically efficient and environmentally safe fashion; and WHEREAS, in addition to the impressive financial and national defense advantages, implementation of tritium making capabilities at the Bellefonte Plant would result in the employment of an additional 500 persons during the final phase of construction and would require the continued employment of numerous well-paid technicians; moreover, the Tennessee Valley Authority payments in lieu of taxes to the state once the plant is on line would produce an additional five million dollars, a significant financial gain that would provide an important economic stimulus to the Southeastern United States and North Alabama; and WHEREAS, this legislative body concludes that modifying the final phase of construction of the plant to allow the production of this critical component of our national defense is a wise and prudent approach to addressing vital military, energy, and conservation concerns, and the technical, environmental, and budgetary advantages should be thoroughly explored and closely considered; now therefore, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF ALABAMA, BOTH HOUSES THEREOF CONCURRING, That the United States Department of Energy, the Tennessee Valley Authority, and other interested parties are encouraged to completely evaluate the possibilities of including tritium production capabilities at the Bellefonte Nuclear Plant. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That a copy of this resolution be sent to the Secretary of the United States Department of Energy, the chief officer of the Tennessee Valley Authority, and each member of Alabama's U. S. Congressional Delegation so that each recipient may know of our continuing interest in this important program. Resolution, Legislative U. S. Department of Energy Tennessee Valley Authority President and Presiding Officer of the Senate Speaker of the House of Representatives McDowell Lee Secretary -- -- -- -- June 12, 2001 Sessions favors use of nuclear power By Dennis Sherer Staff Writer February 20, 2001 Email this story. U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions says he will introduce legislation aimed at encouraging the use of nuclear power to produce electricity. Photo by TimesDaily photographer Daniel Giles ATHENS -- Revitalizing the nuclear power industry could be America's answer to soaring energy prices and shortages
Re: [CTRL] double?/ THE PATSEY SPEAKS NO MORE!!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/12/01 12:51:06 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 4) I speak frequently with the best friend of Nichol's brother, Bob Popovitch. He is not even certain the McVeigh he speaks with on the phone and meets with at the prison is not the McVeigh double. But he agrees that when the time for the real execution comes it will be the real McVeigh. Can anyone elaborate on the McVeigh double theory? Do many/most mc assassins have doubles? This is a new concept for me. Thanks in advance. Samantha A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...
-Caveat Lector- If anyone seriously believes any of the stories, I have a bridge in Brooklyn and some swampland in Florida I'm sure you'd be interested in buying... ;-) You are a fool. I happen to know the above story is true. I am representing the alcoholic mother in a wrongful death suit. The junk yard owner had prior notice that metal inserted teenagers often used his junk yard as a shortcut and in spite of that knowledge he insisted on using that dangerous supermagnet in their presence. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [CIA-DRUGS] THE PATSEY SPEAKS NO MORE!!
-Caveat Lector- Yet another troubling aspect is that McVeigh was arrested when the trooper noticed he was armed. One account said the gun was on the seat beside him but a spokesperson for the State Troopers said on TV he saw a shoulder holster and the handle of the weapon. This was a lone Trooper so why did not McVeigh just shoot him as he approached the car? ~Amelia~ - Original Message - From: Brian Downing Quig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:26 AM Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] THE PATSEY SPEAKS NO MORE!! not so fast. i don't believe he's dead. Dan Hopsicker With an exact ATF double and the services of Dr. Jolyan West the sky is the limit for speculation about government deception regarding Tim McVeigh. I do not think there is evidence for the TIM MADE A DEAL WITH THE GOVERNMENT theory. He did not have a deal with the government when the bomb was fused and it went off immediately. If McVeigh's passenger had not had last minute remorse McVeigh's body would have been found in the rubble. The following make this deal seem unlikely to me. 1 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/12/01 12:44:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am representing the alcoholic mother in a wrongful death suit. The junk yard owner had prior notice that metal inserted teenagers often used his junk yard as a shortcut and in spite of that knowledge he insisted on using that dangerous supermagnet in their presence. flw AAh, yes! Nobody is responsible for their actions. Everybody except the people were are sueing are victims. Liberalism strikes again! BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Life without parole for embassy bomber
-Caveat Lector- Compare and contrast with the OKC Bombing. Guess it all depends on where the bombing takes place. More lives lost than McVeigh but this one gets life. ~Amelia~ Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-'Owhali in a 1998 courtroom sketch. Life without parole for embassy bomber Al'Owhali, 24, sentenced for '98 attack MSNBC NEWS SERVICES NEW YORK, June 12 - A terrorist convicted in the 1998 bombing of the U.S. embassy in Kenya received life in prison Tuesday after a jury deadlocked on sentencing him to death for the deadly attack. The anonymous jury deliberated for five days over the fate of Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-'Owhali, 24. Al-'Owhali is among four men convicted of conspiring with exiled Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden to murder Americans. AL'OWHALI, of Saudi Arabia, rode in the truck used in the Aug. 7, 1998, bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, before leaping out and hurling stun grenades at guards. He then ran for his life as the bomb-hauling truck exploded outside the embassy, killing 213 people and injuring thousands more. Eleven people were killed in a simultaneous bombing of the U.S. mission in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Al-'Owhali is among four men convicted of conspiring with exiled Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden to kill Americans. The penalty trial for Al'Owhali will be followed by an identical hearing for co-defendant Khalfan Khamis Mohamed, 27, of Tanzania, who helped prepare the bomb used in Tanzania. Embassy Bombs Verdict Wadih El-Hage, 40, of Arlington, Texas, and Mohamed Sadeek Odeh, 36, of Jordan, convicted of conspiracy by the same jury, also face life in prison when they are sentenced. The case against al-'Owhali marks the first time the U.S. government has sought the death penalty for terrorism committed against Americans in a foreign country. JURORS' NOTE On Monday, the Manhattan federal jury had sent a note to U.S. District Judge Leonard Sand indicating it might be unable to reach a unanimous decision on the death penalty. Because of the note, lawyers in the case had expected the jury to announce on Tuesday morning that it was deadlocked. Advertisement Sand told the jurors that if they were satisfied that they could not reach an agreement on the death penalty, they should write the following on the verdict form: We the jury do not unanimously find that the death sentence is appropriate. We understand that the consequence of this is that al-'Owhali will be sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of release. MOST-WANTED FUGITIVE Bin Laden, indicted as the mastermind behind the bombings, is one of America's most wanted fugitives and one of 13 men still wanted in the case. He is believed to be in Afghanistan, and the U.S. government has offered a $5 million reward for information leading to his arrest. Rethinking Osama bin Laden © 2001 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CNNnews: Supreme Court Rules In Favor of School Religious Meetings
-Caveat Lector- Your premise is exactly correct in my opinion. It is the EXCLUSION factor to which I object. If one is allowed, all are allowed, not all EXCEPT Christian. Thence the lawsuit. ~Amelia~ - Original Message - From: YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] CNNnews: Supreme Court Rules In Favor of School Religious Meetings -Caveat Lector- On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Bill Howard wrote: This should have the anti-Christians on the CTRL list going ballistic. Well, I rarely see anyone whom you would deem 'anti-Christian' 'going ballistic' to the extent the so-called Christians do when they find they can't impose their superstition onto the rest of society. I wonder how you and the rest of your so-called Christians will feel when this school system not only has to allow the Christian prayer group to meet in school facilities, but when non-Christian religious groups start demanding the same 'right'... Will you be as happy when Muslims or Wiccans or Satanists hold their own prayer meetings in the school after hours? If you allow one flavor of religion, then you have to allow all June A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: thinking too different
-Caveat Lector- Tuesday - June 12, 2001 Apple gives satanists hell By Macworld staff Apple's legal team is in dispute with The Church of Satan. The church's webmaster is an avid Mac fan and had created parodies of Apple's Think Different advertising campaign, featuring cult leader Anton Szandor LaVey. The site also featured Apple's familiar Made with Macintosh Web badges and Apple logos, claims MacEvangelist. The images were maintained on the cult's site for two years. Apple, fearing the negative connotations of having its brand identity connected to the Church of Satan, forced it to cease using them. Not devil may care Apple's legal firm, Arent Fox, insisted the images be removed, on the grounds of trademark infringement. Its statement read: Apple believes that your use of the Made With Macintosh and Think Different badges in this manner is likely to tarnish the goodwill associated with the Apple trademark. The Church contends that its Web site was built on a Mac, and that the cult's webmaster was proud of this. It also believes that Apple's 'Think Different' slogan is close to its own beliefs, arguing that the company's decision to force the Church to remove the images is tantamount to a suppression of belief. Cult webmaster Peter Gilmore said: View with fresh perspective the company which introduced its Macintosh using a lengthy commercial dramatizing an athletic young woman smashing the grey visage of an Orwellian dictator on a video screen. She burst through the ragged, shuffling hordes, a vision of Satanic splendor, and refused to submit to conformity. If we were making this again today, the face on the screen could be that of Steve Jobs, and Apple's lawyers might be huddling amongst the masses, only moving away from the crowd to stick out a foot in an attempt to trip the heroine on her dash towards the promotion of independent thought. Evil logo Gilmore added spookily: It is also amusing to us that this company uses as a corporate logo an apple with a bite taken from it, which certainly appears to be a reference to that other famous apple. We have not forgotten that forbidden fruit, which would impart knowledge of Good and Evil, offered to Eve in that mythical garden by none other than the serpent, an avatar of Satan himself. Is it not then strange that they seem to fear the admiration of the Church of Satan? As Anton LaVey himself would have said, 'They want to dance, but their feet won't let them' . A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CNNnews: Supreme Court Rules In Favor of School Religious Meetings
-Caveat Lector- RevCoal I wonder how you and the rest of your so-called Christians will feel when this school system not only has to allow the Christian prayer group to meet in school facilities, but when non-Christian religious groups start demanding the same 'right'... MJ Religion is taught WITHIN the Government School curriculum today. Now what? RevCoal Will you be as happy when Muslims or Wiccans or Satanists hold their own prayer meetings in the school after hours? MJ Actually, I am not too 'happy' that the Environmentalists, the PC Crowd OR the Big Government Religionists permeate the Government Indoctrination Centers daily. If religion has no place within the Government's Schools (which it does NOT), then the Government cannot operate schools. Regard$, --MJ A general state education is a mere contrivance for molding people to be exactly like one another: and as the mold in which it casts them is that which pleases the predominant power in the government or the majority of the existing generation; in proportion as it is efficient and successful, it establishes a despostism over the mind, leading by natural tendency to one over the body. -- John Stuart Mill A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Apples in Eden
-Caveat Lector- No case to answer in my view, both the logic and extention of such arguments are extremely poor. Actually, I would have thought that it would be the more 'literalist' branches of creationism that would be upset here. Not only does Satan as entity not exist outside Christian doctrine (and as such, only a Christian can be a Satanist ?) - we are led to believe that it was in accepting to taste the Apple in Eden that lead us astray - not the apple istelf ? TD Apple's legal team is in dispute with The Church of Satan. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Defend Scouting Newsletter (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- DEFEND SCOUTING NEWSLETTER June 12, 2001 www.defendscouting.com SENATOR JESSE HELMS DEFENDS SCOUTING! Excerpts From His Senate Speech Introducing His Amendment To Cut Funding From School Districts Discriminating Against Scouts. Mr. President, for years, the Boy Scouts of America organization has been subjected to malicious assaults by some homosexuals and some liberal politicians simply because the Boy Scouts of America organization, and many individual scout groups, have steadfastly continued to uphold their moral and decent standards for scouting and the leaders of that great organization. I have long admired and supported scouting--its leaders, and the Boy Scouts themselves. (I was one a long time ago, although we will not discuss how long ago that was.) In any case, it comes as no surprise to me that the Supreme Court properly upheld in June of last year the constitutional rights of the Boy Scouts of America--their rights to establish their own membership guidelines, which included no obligation whatsoever to accept homosexuals as Boy Scout members or leaders. Nor was there any surprise that there came the customary discordant company of radical militants demanding that this landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court be undermined... This arrogant discriminatory treatment of Boy Scouts of America must not be allowed to continue, and that is why I am sitting here this afternoon offering amendments to reinforce the U.S. Supreme Court's decision upholding the first amendment rights of the Boy Scouts of America and not oblige those Boy Scouts to compromise their membership or leadership guidelines, nor any of their moral principles... Mr. President. I hope the Senate will, as the U.S. Supreme Court has already done, uphold the constitutional rights of the Boy Scouts of America to continue to take this (Scout) oath, meaningfully and sincerely. Excerpts from Senator Helms speech to the Senate, March 14, 2001, introducing his amendment to cut funding from school districts discriminating against scouts. His entire speech and the supporting material he submitted for the record is posted at www.defendscouting.com/helms.html . FROM THE EDITOR: Lessons From Two Extremes In The Attack On Scouting Two articles in this issue illustrate the extremes of the attacks on Scouts going on around the country. One reports the recent success of Tennessee Congressman Van Hilleary's amendment to the education bill in Congress. His amendment provides for cutting off federal funds from a school district that denies the Boy Scouts equal access to school facilities. It is very similar to the Helms amendment the Senator was advocating in the excerpt at the beginning of this newsletter. These amendments are a reaction to the unconstitutional effort by the Broward County, Florida, School District and others around the country to try to punish the Scouts because of their exclusion of openly homosexual scoutmasters. Hilleary's amendment passed on a voice vote, a sure indication that it was considered non-controversial. That, in turn, is eloquent testimony that most Congressmen recognize the high esteem in which the Scouts are held by the majority of their constituents. The second article reports the Los Angeles Times withholding thousands of dollars in campership funding over this same position. As a private organization, of course, the Times has every right to indulge in such an example of liberalism and political correctness run amok. The paper has lost some subscribers as a result. Its reputation takes a much bigger hit, however. It is ironic that a newspaper, which depends for its continued existence on the constitutional protection of a free press, should punish the Scouts for exercising their constitutional rights. These examples offer important lessons. One is that most Americans hold firm to the fundamental values and institutions that have made this nation great. But another is that unless enough of these good people are prepared to act in defense of these values and institutions, the liberals and other disciples of political correctness will continue to exert a corrosive influence on our society vastly disproportionate to their numbers. As always, thank you for keeping us informed about what is happening to Scouting around the country and for all that you do in its defense. Peter Ferrara Editor P.S. Please help us pass the word by forwarding this newsletter on to others who are defending Scouting. ** WHAT IS HAPPENING TO SCOUTING AROUND THE COUNTRY (Please note: If the URL is longer than one line, you will have to paste the entire URL into your browser's address window rather than use the hot link.) SOME POSITIVE DEVELOPMENTS FOR SCOUTING... --ANOTHER BIG VICTORY IN CONGRESS The House on a voice vote passed Tennessee Congressman Van Hilleary's amendment to the education bill to provide for cutting off federal
[CTRL] Davenport: ET contact info (fwd)
- Original Message - From: Marc Davenport To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: ET contact info. Important information follows, but first: If you have ever visited the Greenleaf Publications web site or corresponded with authors Marc Davenport or Leah Haley, or if your e-mail address has been submitted by a colleague, you are on our list. If you wish to be removed, please reply with remove in the subject line. IMPORTANT: IF YOU REFCEIVE MORE THAN ONE COPY OF THIS MESSAGE, IT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE USED DIFFERENT E-MAIL ADDRESSES IN THE PAST (SOME MAY CONTAIN CAPITALS, OTHERS NOT, ETC.) PLEASE LET US KNOW WHICH ONE(S) TO DELETE FROM OUR LIST. Please post the following announcements far and wide: 1. During the past year, many of you have desperately tried to obtain copies of VOYAGERS: THE SLEEPING ABDUCTEES, VOL. 1 by Ashayana Deane, and we had to turn you away because it was out of print. The publisher has now reprinted it and made it available to us, and it is available to you at our web site http://www.greenleafpublications.com (just type voyagers in the search box), or e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for instructions on how to obtain it by phone or snail mail. 2. Change of address. Please amend your address book to change our old e-mail address from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please send e-mail to this new address for Marc Davenport, Greenleaf Publications, and Leah Haley (unless you are a personal friend of Leah's who already has her closely-guarded private address). Please use e-mail for all correspondence whenever possible, but if you must phone or fax, please note our new numbers: phone: 417-781-6905; fax: 417-623-4948. Please make a note of these new numbers in your address book as well. 3. Web site changes: The look of our web site http://www.greenleafpublications.com has changed, but you can still see my articles there and order books that Leah and I have written and/or published, as well as many other UFO/alien books. We are phasing out our videos, CDs, and cassettes. As soon as the few that are still listed are sold, we will discontinue those categories. We are no longer selling any of the other Elvis books--only our own publication ELVIS' SEARCH FOR GOD. From time to time, other web sites become obsolete, but their operators do not inform us, so if you try to link to another web site through ours and are unsuccessful, please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will remove the obsolete link from our site. 4. Greenleaf Publications is no longer accepting manuscripts for publication for the foreseeable future. 5. Personal news in brief: We are unable to answer all the mail we receive, but here are a few answers to the questions everyone asks: Amazon.com has succeeded in destroying most small mail-order book companies, but Greenleaf Publications is still hanging in there. However, the drastic reduction in sales volume has forced us to seek other employment, so our mail-order business is now conducted much more through answering machines and recalls (and through internet sales) and much less in person. (Our voice-mail at the toll-free 1-800-905-8367 order line is secure, so it is safe to leave your credit-card number and expiration date when ordering.) Due to our current regular work schedules, we can only accept infrequent speaking engagements, and are making very slow progress on our current books (Leah's latest UNLOCKING ALIEN CLOSETS and Marc's latest ALIEN ENGINEERING OF HUMAN SOCIETY). 6. Food for thought from Marc: Although mundane work takes up most of my time these days, my mind has not shut off! Here are a few of the possibilities I have been pondering lately: "Chemtrails": I am leaning toward the explanation of millions of tons of microscopic aluminum particles being sprayed into the atmosphere in a substrate by deep-black government-sponsored operations in a desperate attempt to ameliorate an out-of-control global warming effect that has top officials and oil companies very worried indeed. Probably based on the brainchild of Edward Teller and aimed at reflecting a greater portion of solar energy into space. Like the H-bomb and the rest of this twisted genius's ideas, it has a sublimely ironic horror attached: aluminum has been linked to Alzheimer's disease. Will Teller save us all but we won't remember what it was we were saved from? Abductions: The completely bogus "False Memory Syndrome" people have suggested that abduction memories must be induced by incompetent hypnotherapists because encounters with greys constitute as much as 80% of US reports and only 20% of reports in the rest of the world. I think it probable that this is precisely what we should expect to see, since it is the little greys who appear to be producing hybrids. After all, any geneticist worth his salt would instantly recognize the importance of using the widest possible gene pool available
[CTRL] AP: McVeigh reincarnates as a [computer] 'virus'
-Caveat Lector- 'McVeigh Virus' Lurks As Execution Video Old Hacker Program Can Take Control Of Your Computer WASHINGTON, 2:32 p.m. EDT June 12, 2001 -- If you get an offer to view a video of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh's execution, be careful. It probably isn't a video clip, just an old computer trick. In an Internet chat room on Monday, hours after McVeigh's death, some participants went to a Web link to see a bootleg video of the execution only to be duped into downloading a malicious program that can allow a hacker to take control of another computer. Brad Chapman, a Brigham Young University computer science student, said that by visiting a Web site at Internet provider Concentric Networks, his computer downloaded the program, known as SubSeven. Chapman didn't run the program, but instead analyzed it and found out what it really does. April Goostree, anti-virus manager at computer security firm McAfee.com, said that SubSeven is an old program that is disguised as many things. It was just a matter of time before somebody would attach McVeigh's name to it, Goostree said. Goostree said that almost any anti-virus program will detect the program. Still, SubSeven and its variants are the most common threat to home computers, according to McAfee.com research. The execution of McVeigh in Terre Haute, Ind., was broadcast to a federal facility in Oklahoma City, where victims of his bombing could watch. The FBI said that there is no indication that the signal was intercepted. Copyright 2001 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ex-pupils seek payback for abuse at deaf school
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Article info is below. Sincerely, Neil Brick This may be heavy for survivors of abuse. excerpt from : http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/162/metro/Ex_pupils_seek_payback_for_abuse _at_deaf_schoolP.shtml Ex-pupils seek payback for abuse at deaf school - By Meadow Rue Merrill, Globe Correspondent, 6/11/2001 - PORTLAND, Maine - state-run Governor Baxter School for the Deaf, on Maine's Mackworth Island, near PortlandThree years ago, Martineau was one of the first to demand the state take responsibility for what had happened. Denied the ability to sue, he helped form a survivors' support group, A Safer Place of Portland, to prod the state to take action. Now 40 years after the alleged abuse began, and after countless setbacks, the group is growing in solidarity. It has the support of the governor and the Maine Legislature, which is expected to set aside $5 million to compensate victims and to apologize to each oneIn 1976, six years before the attorney general's investigation, at least three Baxter teachers had independently reported suspected abuse to the Maine Department of Education, but no action was taken. By the time the attorney general investigated, it was too late to press charges. The statute of limitations had expired. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Davenport: ET contact info (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/12/01 2:21:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably based on the brainchild of Edward Teller and aimed at reflecting a greater portion of solar energy into space. Like the H-bomb and the rest of this twisted genius's ideas, it has a sublimely ironic horror attached: aluminum has been linked to Alzheimer's disease. Will Teller save us all but we won't remember what it was we were saved from? WOW! HEAVY! Just think of the possiblities for the government to take over and run our lives. They could tax us to death and we wouldn't even remember it! They could save the spotted owl and the first growth forest and no one would complain! WOW! BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Tony Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:36 PM Subject: [CTRL] Apples in Eden -Caveat Lector- No case to answer in my view, both the logic and extention of such arguments are extremely poor. Actually, I would have thought that it would be the more 'literalist' branches of creationism that would be upset here. oh no! apple shareholders would be much more upset about the creationists boycotting macs i am sure. Not only does Satan as entity not exist outside Christian doctrine (and as such, only a Christian can be a Satanist ?) - we are led to believe that it was in accepting to taste the Apple in Eden that lead us astray - not the apple istelf ? definately possibly and the extension of that self determination of eve is that god placed the apple there and then appeared as his other side and invited, coerced (?) her to taste knowledge. was the serpent god's consiounce? eve was the second woman to fail adam. misogyny is as all bigotries rooted in fear. both lilith and eve kicked (a rather limited) adam's ass by not obeying him- lilith is a success and is all but forgotten but eve's act is the cornerstone of sin and the serpent the origin of evil. knowledge and self determination are suppressed at birth. maybe the devil is god in exile j-l. g. TD Apple's legal team is in dispute with The Church of Satan. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [RWWATCH] Strange Bedfellows: Republican Donors fund DLC meeting
RWWATCH - June 11, 2001 (please forward) [A RWWATCH reader forwarded an email that was sent by the Democratic Leadership Council email list earlier today. FYI the DLC is not the Democratic National Committee, but a splinter group of centrist Democrats whose membership has included Joe Lieberman, Al Gore, John Kerry, John Edwards, and now Hilary Clinton. The news is that the DLC is holding their annual Strategy Session in a few weeks: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:29:03 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (New Democrats Online) Subject: Important DLC Strategy Session [ http://www.ndol.org http://www.ppionline.org ] Special Event Invitation: Please join DLC Chairman Evan Bayh in Indianapolis next month for an important gathering of New Democrat elected officials and community leaders: The DLC's 5th Annual National Conversation July 15-17, 2001 Westin Indianapolis Hotel Indianapolis, Indiana The interesting thing about this event is that it is actually touting the fact that it is funded by Koch Industries of Kansas. This company is one of the anchors of the CONSERVATIVE movement, and is a major contributor to the Bush campaign. To be fair, Koch is only one of more than a dozen sponsors. Here is the list of event sponsors, straight from the DLC web site at http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=3397subid=166kaid=126 : Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Baker Daniels / Sagamore Associates Barnes Thornburg Steven Phoebe Crane Dominion Eli Lilly Company Emmis Communications Indianapolis Colts International Association of Fire Fighters Koch Industries Inc. PSComm, LLC Sallie Mae Sheet Metal Workers International Association (SMWIA) United Water But it seems odd to have have an ideologically conservative outfit -- one of the largest private companies in the US, owned mainly by two arch-conservative brothers (David and Charles) who support free market policies no matter the cost -- lined up on the same sponsor list as a liberal international union. The Sheet Metal Workers Union (see www.smwia.org) is a member of the AFL-CIO and even lists includes a link to BushWatch (see http://www.aflcio.org/bushwatch/index.htm) on its home page. By contrast, the Koch industries organization was a major donor to the Bush campaign and the Bob Dole campaign, and provided startup funding for both the Cato Institute and Citizens for a Sound Economy, anti-labor advocacy groups with close ties to the Bush administration. (see http://www.forbes.com/2001/01/04/0104faces.html and http://www.dallasnews.com/specials/bush_campaign/finance/0801bushdonate.htm) It certainly might be worthwhile to see if the DLC staff and the SMWIA are aware of the background of Koch Industries. Try: DLC Press Secretary Matthew Frankel at (800) 546-0027. Or Michael J. Sullivan, Pres. of SMWIA, 1750 NY Ave. N.W., DC 20006 202-783-5880 Better yet, if any of you are attending the DLC event (anyone may register for a fee), or you will be in Indiana on July 16, the date of DLC's $500/plate Celebrate the Success dinner, it might be a great opportunity to hand out information on the fiercely partisan activities of the Koch brothers, or on the whether the DLC's strategy of welcoming support from the far right wing makes any sense. One link, and one full article, below. -rich cowan] Robert Parry Investigative Piece on Koch-related Lawsuit http://past.thenation.com/issue/960826/0826parr.htm Wall Street Journal - August 9, 1999 http://nuance.dhs.org/lbo-talk/9909/0422.html HOW KOCH INDUSTRIES TRIES TO INFLUENCE JUDICIAL SYSTEM By John J. Fialka Staff Reporter Of The Wall Street Journal In September 1997, Judge Michael Corrigan left his courtroom in Kansas's State District Court in Wichita to join a small group of hand-picked state judges for a special seminar at the University of Kansas in Lawrence. Then, last December, he attended the second phase of the seminar at the $250-per-night Sundial Beach Resort in Sanibel, Fla. The topic: hard-nosed, market-based economics, a subject Judge Corrigan says he never took in college. Talk about a mental challenge, the judge raves. Equally interesting, however, was the identity of the founder and key patron of the two-week seminar: a Koch family foundation headed by an official of Koch Industries Inc. of Wichita, an oil, natural gas, minerals and agribusiness giant that aggressively lobbies government. In between the sessions, Judge Corrigan handled the pretrial phase of two cases involving Koch. He was aware of Koch's involvement in the seminars, the judge says, but didn't inform any of the parties to the cases. I considered it to be a matter of the University of Kansas, he says. Efforts to Influence The seminars illustrate how, in recent years, Koch has sought to influence thinking in the judicial system. Since 1995, 550 judges have attended the two-part, nearly expense-free Economic Institutes for State Judges. Koch also
Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...
-Caveat Lector- I am representing the alcoholic mother Which court? What's the docket number? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] LAT: Bombs That Brought Down a Movement
-Caveat Lector- http://www.latimes.com/news/comment/20010612/t48870.html Los Angeles Times Tuesday, June 12, 2001 McVeigh Brought Down a Movement By PAUL M. WEYRICH As Timothy McVeigh went to meet his maker, he said he was bloodied but unbowed. In his mind he was a prisoner of war who died for a noble cause. He was justly angry about what the federal government did to innocent women and children at Waco. So he decided it was up to him to strike back. He picked the federal building in Oklahoma City because it was a command post of sorts for the federal government in the West. Whether he acted more or less alone or with some assist from Terry Nichols is now something we will never really know for sure. Conspiracy theorists will insist forever that he could not have carried out that extensive a bombing operation without involving many other people. Some believe the government itself, knowing what McVeigh was up to, assisted in the operation in order to make the carnage worse. If that were the case, it would be a massive conspiracy that after six years would be awfully hard to cover up. There are those on the far right who still justify what McVeigh did. Not that they approve of the deaths of the innocent children at the day care center. But they insist that the federal government waged war on its own citizens at Waco and Ruby Ridge and, once having embarked down that path, the federal government should have understood it would pay a steep price for what was done there. The problem is that the people who paid the price had nothing to do with Waco and Ruby Ridge. They were innocent bystanders who got caught up in a war over which they had no control or authority. The terrible damage McVeigh did went beyond the 168 who died and the hundreds more injured. Beyond the horror and carnage inflicted on Oklahoma City, McVeigh did great damage to the movement he professed to be a part of. The anti-government mood was really gaining strength in the country. The 1994 elections swept into office some of the most determined reformers ever in modern times. These reformers were just beginning to flex their muscles in Congress, and they had the public behind them when the bombing occurred. That bombing completely tore the heart out of the anti-government movement in the country. It enabled President Clinton, who had been on the ropes, to make a comeback. It put the forces of less government completely on the defensive, lest somehow they be linked to Oklahoma City. The anti-government forces have never regained the momentum they had before the bombing occurred. Only God knows how far things might have gone had this man-made act of vengeance not interfered with the political forces that had been building for years. McVeigh may have thought he was getting even for his side. In fact, he set his cause back so far that it may never ever recover. It is not for nothing that Scripture says, Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord. McVeigh may think he went to his grave unbowed, but in fact he was defeated, having been the principal reason the forces of less government have lost the greatest war of the 20th century and have yet to regroup for the 21st century. They say he was bright. Yet it is clear he never understood any of this. - - - Paul M. Weyrich Is President of the Free Congress Foundation Copyright © 2001 Los Angeles Times === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF
[CTRL] LT: Tourist hunts for his past
-Caveat Lector- The Times, of London TUESDAY JUNE 12 2001 Tourist hunts for his own past BY STEVE BIRD AND LAURA PEEK A YORKSHIRE accent and a passion for sonnets and cups of tea are among the few clues to a mystery man's identity. After being mugged while backpacking in Toronto 18 months ago, the man claims that he lost his memory. He cannot leave Canada because he does not have a passport or birth certificate and is unable to persuade a foreign embassy to help him until he can prove his nationality. An international appeal was made yesterday to find anyone who may hold the key to his past. He has been given the name of Philip Staufen because he blurted that out while unconscious. It has not been confirmed that it is his real name. It has also been discovered that he is a vegetarian who likes classical music and understands Italian, French and Latin. Speaking from Vancouver, where he lives in sheltered accommodation, Mr Staufen said that he felt like a prisoner whose life had become senseless. My situation has left me prey to too many abuses and humiliations, he said. I have found myself having to live on the streets or with violent and vulgar people. I spend a lot of time in the public library reading sonnets. Mr Staufen, in his mid 20s, woke up in a Toronto hospital in November 1999 after being in a coma for several days. He was initially unable to walk or talk. Canadian police believe that he was travelling in the country when he was attacked and robbed of his belongings. As his faculties slowly returned it appeared that he may have suffered post-concussion global amnesia. Manuel Azevedo, part of Mr Staufen's legal team, said that his accent was public school-sounding with a hint of Yorkshire. He says jumpers instead of sweater and pavement instead of sidewalk, he added. He could have come from a wealthy English family. He clearly had a very good education. Anyone with information about Mr Staufen should call the National Missing Persons Helpline on 0500 700700. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...
In a message dated 6/12/01 2:44:02 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The junk yard owner had prior notice that metal inserted teenagers often used his junk yard as a shortcut and in spite of that knowledge he insisted on using that dangerous supermagnet in their presence. It's not liberal or conservative to see that IF this is true, a BIG if, it's a stupid case and a sad commentary. Bill.
[CTRL] IndiaTimes: Anglican archbishop: Homosexuality is a Work of God
-Caveat Lector- Homosexuality a work of God: Archbishop of York LONDON: Homosexuality could be the work of God, according to a catechism commissioned by the Church of England's second highest figure. The document says homosexuality may well not be a condition to be regretted but to have divinely ordered and positive qualities. Homosexual Christian believers should be encouraged to find in their sexual preferences such elements of moral beauty as may enhance their general understanding of Christ's calling, it says [continued]. ___ Full article on website: http://news.indiatimes.com/news/toit/12worl5.htm === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WiredNews: Gov't. Can't Scan Without a Warrant
-Caveat Lector- http://wired.com/news/print/0,1294,4,00.html Can't Scan Without a Warrant By Declan McCullagh 2:00 a.m. June 12, 2001 PDT WASHINGTON -- If the feds want to spy on your home using whizzy tech gadgets, they'd better get a warrant first, the Supreme Court said on Monday. In an important 5-4 ruling that extends privacy's shield to radiation not visible to the human eye, the court said federal agents should have obtained a warrant before using an infrared imaging device to snoop on Danny Lee Kyllo, an Oregon man they later arrested for growing marijuana. The decision, written by conservative Justice Antonin Scalia, said even though the law has long allowed police to peer at homes through their naked eyes, enhanced cameras and similar devices in law enforcement hands would leave the homeowner at the mercy of advancing technology -- including imaging technology that could discern all human activity in the home. This ruling seems likely to affect how federal and state police may use their rapidly-growing arsenal of advanced surveillance tools. In the Kyllo case, agents used an Agema 210 unit to detect unusual heat emissions from the halide lamps used to grow marijuana. Since the Interior Department's unlawful surveillance of Kyllo in January 1992, infrared and other forms of electronic monitoring devices have become far more invasive, and the Justice Department has spent millions of dollars in research on X-ray devices that can see through even brick and concrete walls. Certainly optical performance has improved. And over the years thermal sensitivity has grown a lot greater, said Doug Little, spokesman for FLIR Systems of Portland, Oregon, which bought Agema in 1998. Cameras are a lot more accurate now. FLIR no longer lists the Agema 210 on their website. Little says that police typically now opt for the MilCAM LE, a handheld infrared camera that weighs 3 pounds, costs about $50,000, and is advertised with this slogan: Perpetrators can turn out the lights but they can't turn off the heat. The slender majority of the justices in the Kyllo case strongly reaffirmed the common law belief that a man's home is his castle, as described by Sir Edward Coke four centuries ago: The house of every one is to him as his castle and fortress, as well for his defence against injury and violence as for his repose. That strident defense of privacy against government intrusion makes Kyllo probably the most significant decision on the constitutionality of technologically-aided electronic surveillance in a generation, said Marc Rotenberg, director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington, D.C. Noting that the Court's majority decided that Americans inside their homes expect their heat signatures and other incidental emissions to be private, Rotenberg said that the case breathes new life into the Fourth Amendment after its battering by overflight, nightscopes, dog sniffing and other techniques that courts have generally found do not violate the 'reasonable expectation of privacy test.' Larry Lessig, a professor of law at Stanford University, agrees that the case is a landmark one -- at least, if the slim majority can prevent one of its side from defecting. The question is how sustainable it is, Lessig said. Given the range of these technologies and the minimal actual kind of invasion they present, the question is whether the court will be resolute in protecting this conception of private spaces instead of yielding to the temptation to allow (surveillance) of criminal activity. Since the Fourth Amendment prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures, it implicitly permits reasonable ones. In Kyllo, the majority wrestled with whether viewing a home with electronically-enhanced gear was even a search at all. Scalia concluded that obtaining by sense-enhancing technology any information regarding the interior of the home that could not otherwise have been obtained without physical intrusion into a constitutionally protected area constitutes a search -- at least where (as here) the technology in question is not in general public use. Future technology, Scalia said, might even reveal at what hour each night the lady of the house takes her daily sauna and bath. In a dissent, liberal Justice John Paul Stevens -- joined by conservative Chief Justice William Rehnquist, and swing-vote Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy -- sided with the Justice Department's defense of warrantless surveillance, saying disparagingly that the countervailing privacy interest is at best trivial. Heat waves, like aromas that are generated in a kitchen, or in a laboratory or opium den, enter the public domain if and when they leave a building. A subjective expectation that they would remain private is not only implausible but also surely not one that society is prepared to recognize as 'reasonable,' Stevens said. This decision could influence whether police need a warrant to capture radio
[CTRL] NS: Should we care what happens to people a thousand years from now
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns229440 Against the collective Should we care what happens to people a thousand years from now? From New Scientist magazine A RADICAL overhaul of the international safety regime governing radiation would give the nuclear industry a licence to pollute the seas and air, warn scientists. It might mean a worldwide rise in cancers in the long term. The International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP), the world advisory body based in Stockholm, Sweden, wants to make big changes to the way safety levels are decided for people exposed to radiation from nuclear plants, industrial sources and medical X-rays. But its plans, outlined for the first time last week, have already fallen foul of experts who see no reason to change the system agreed in 1990. That system relies on measuring the collective dose of radiation received by large populations of people over extremely long time periods. Some regulators believe this is important because it means they can estimate the worldwide cancer risk from releasing radioactive isotopes into the environment with half-lives of thousands of years (New Scientist, 24 March, p 17). But the ICRP says that the notion of collective dose has proved unsuitable. Often it covers the threat posed by radiation to the entire world population for the rest of time. Instead, the 17-member commission is thinking of introducing a group or workforce dose limited to measuring the exposure of smaller numbers of people over shorter timescales, though it hasn't yet specified how many or how long. This amounts to a green light to continuing pollution, according to Ian Fairlie, a consultant in environmental radioactivity who has worked for regulatory agencies and anti-nuclear groups. Under the new system, it may be possible to quantify the risk to a few specific individuals from radioactive waste pumped into the sea, for example. But it doesn't take into account the risk of more cancers in the population sometime in the future. This sits uneasily with growing awareness about the effects of radiation on the environment, Fairlie says. Britain's advisory Committee on the Medical Aspects of Radiation in the Environment (COMARE) has also told ICRP that it would be very reluctant to abandon collective dose. COMARE chairman Bryn Bridges says the concept gives governments and the public an estimate of how future health will be affected by radioactivity--but he thinks the collective dose should cover just 500 years. ICRP points out that the current system is founded on the risk that ionising radiation poses to society as a whole. It wants to shift this to a regime that concentrates on an individual's risk. But for the moment it is not planning to abandon the underlying assumption that any level of exposure to radiation, however small, carries a potential risk. ICRP chairman, Roger Clarke, denies the new system would be a licence to pollute because it would reduce the radiation doses of the most exposed groups of individuals. It will also make it simpler to enforce safety limits--10 different limits, as well as collective doses, are in operation at the moment, he says. The proposal is to try and rationalise this complex and widely misunderstood system. But radiation scientists defend the existing system. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, says Geoffrey Webb, president of the International Radiation Protection Association. More at: Journal of Radiological Protection (vol 21, p 113) === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL
Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...
if it is true??? holey camoley... get a grip of yourselves... "LABIA FALLS, IL-" "Heart, lungs, liverbut none of that stuff could possibly have left the kid'sbody-except that he had them all pierced." "COITUS, NJ" "those who weren't laughing their asses off had to betaken in for psychological examination" - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet... In a message dated 6/12/01 2:44:02 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The junk yard owner had prior notice that metal inserted teenagers often used his junk yard as a shortcut and in spite of that knowledge he insisted on using that dangerous supermagnet in their presence.It's not liberal or conservative to see that IF this is true, a BIG if, it's a stupid case and a sad commentary. Bill.
[CTRL] Strange Explosions In Arkansas
http://www.arktimes.com/010608coverstorya.html Ka-boom: After the big bang, a wall of silence at East Camden defense park By Michael Haddigan June 8, 2001 EAST CAMDEN - The massive explosion that obliterated a Highland Industrial Park munitions bunker April 28 could be heard 30 miles away in Fordyce. Louder still was the silence that followed as officials at the privately owned park dodged questions about the big boom in the cluster of defense plants in the Southwest Arkansas countryside about 100 miles southwest of Little Rock. It wasn't the first time. Explosions and fires at the state's largest industrial park have claimed more than a dozen lives and injured scores of workers since private munitions-makers began operating at the former Naval ammunition depot in the 1960s. "Nobody down here knows what all is in there," said Katie Hutcheson, 70, of Woodberry, just down state Highway 274 from the rural bunker complex. "If I knew what was in there, I'd worry all that much more." Officials treat defense industry activities at the park as if they were state secrets, which some might well be. At the industrial park's main office, a towering signboard reads like a directory of key defense contractors for missiles and electronic warfare - General Dynamics, Lockheed, TRW, Raytheon and others. Armsmakers at the park produced the Multiple Launch Rocket System or MLRS, the missile-killing Patriot missile, the Viper anti-tank weapon, the seaborne Phalanx anti-missile Gatling gun, the Sparrow missile, underwater demolition charges for the Navy and military flares to help American pilots evade enemy fire. The dramatic April blast was a minor incident compared with previous accidental mayhem at the park. But it rattled nerves in two counties, launched a federal Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms bureau investigation and drew the attention of U.S. Sen. Blanche Lincoln and U.S. Rep. Mike Ross - and his probable political rival Jay Dickey. The explosion prompted an ATF inspection of all bunkers storing commercial explosives. It also sparked a review of local emergency plans and caused Ouachita County officials to consider installing a disaster siren in case of accidents - or worse - at the park or on the railway lines that supply defense contractors with chemicals and raw material. "I do believe the state needs to look at these areas, given the terrorism that we have seen in Oklahoma City and elsewhere," said County Judge Mike Hesterly. What caused the explosion? Could it happen again? What else is stored in those bunkers? What all goes on at Highland Industrial Park? More than a month after the latest explosion, Calhoun and Ouachita County residents know little more than they did the night it happened. And officials seem intent on keeping it that way. Roy Ledbetter, the industrial park's manager, ducked questions after the explosion and made himself unavailable until a brief, awkward June 4 appearance at an ATF press conference. The ATF itself had almost nothing to say about the explosion until announcing at the East Camden press conference that it was launching an inspection of the rest of the bunkers holding commercial explosives (though not those subject to secrecy as a defense industry). Even the usually talkative local business leaders hold their tongues when it comes to Highland. A recent call to the Camden Area Chamber of Commerce to ask about the park's annual economic impact - ordinarily a figure boosters quote with great pride - brought this response: "Let me give you the number for Highland Industrial Park." Ouachita and Calhoun County residents talk freely about the industrial park, and local officials say they're confident it poses no threat to communities. But many are clearly protective of the park and the defense jobs it provides. "With the closing of the International Paper plant here in Camden," Hesterly said. "The park is absolutely vital to our economy." The Park In 1841, Camden's position as an important Ouachita River steamboat landing for New Orleans-bound cotton and the construction of a cotton gin nudged the sparsely populated region into the industrial age. The area's wealth of timber and oil discoveries in the 1920's brought more work and more money. World War II helped spur further development with construction in 1944 of the Shumaker Naval Ammunition Depot east of Camden on 65,000 acres. The depot manufactured and tested rockets and munitions under tight security. Plenty of South Arkansas residents found solid jobs there, and often worked under tight security at the ammunition plants. Camden fire chief Phil Seaton, whose father worked at the naval depot, remembers guards confiscated cigarette lighters and matches at gates to prevent accidents and sabotage. Secrecy remains a priority at Highland, Seaton said. "Quite frankly, the public doesn't know everything that's out there for security reasons," he said. With
[CTRL] TH: Time to start over with Social Security numbers
-Caveat Lector- The best solution to the privacy crisis caused by the universal use of Social Security numbers by government and business comes from Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas. He proposes assigning every American a new Social Security number and banning the use of Social Security numbers as identifying tools. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/phyllisschlafly/ps20010612.shtml Time to start over with Social Security numbers It isn't just Social Security benefits that Americans are worried about - it's the Social Security number itself. The widespread misuse of Social Security numbers is a growing political issue. The inspector general of the Social Security Administration, John G. Huse Jr., testified on May 22 before a House Ways and Means subcommittee. His frank statement is a wake-up call to Americans who value their freedom from other people monitoring our daily activities and from criminals who steal our money, our credit and even our identity. Huse called misuse of Social Security numbers a national crisis, and he pleaded that the time has come to put the Social Security number back into its box. Since the government created the Social Security number and permitted it to assume such great power, he said, it's the government's job to control it. When Social Security was created in 1935, the Social Security number's sole purpose was to track the earnings of employed Americans so their wages would be properly credited, and we were promised it would never be used for anything else. Chalk that up to another promise broken by government; the Social Security number has become a de facto personal identifier. The temptation to use Social Security numbers for other purposes was apparently irresistible. The Department of Defense uses them for armed forces personnel and draft registration, and the Internal Revenue Service requires them for income tax returns and for our bank deposits to make sure all our income is declared. Social Security numbers are used by federal, state and local governments for everything from food stamps to drivers' licenses to marriage licenses to water and sewer bills. Huse warns that this is a convenience that we can no longer afford. He thanked Congress for enactment of the Identity Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act of 1998, which enables the feds to prosecute those who misappropriate someone else's identity. It's important to punish identity theft, but Huse says it is more critical to prevent it. The problem is the everyday and pervasive use of Social Security numbers by those other than the Social Security Administration. This includes not only government agencies but schools, colleges, hospitals, banks, insurance companies, credit card companies and merchants, even for such transactions as joining a health club or buying a refrigerator. Subcommittee Chairman Clay Shaw remarked, More and more people are being told their Social Security number is required for reasons that just don't make sense, like renting a video, making funeral arrangements or even picking up Girl Scout cookies. Huse called for legislation that limits the use of Social Security numbers to purposes that benefit the holder of the Social Security number. It should not be used for the benefit of the company that sells an appliance or the state that issues a driver's license. Huse said that last year his office received 46,840 allegations of Social Security number misuse and another 43,456 of allegations of program fraud that includes Social Security number misuse. Identity thieves used to steal credit card numbers one by one from mailboxes and restaurant receipts. Now they steal wholesale on the Internet. A thief can buy someone's Social Security number on the Internet for $39.95, use it within minutes to get a credit card, then buy big-ticket items such as cars and jewelry. Commercial online data brokers collect and sell personal information for legitimate purposes, and their customers include banks, insurance companies, journalists and law enforcement agencies. The data come from public records or information provided by consumers on credit applications. But when sold online, the brokers have no way of checking the identity or legitimacy of buyers. The majority of applications for credit are made over the phone with the Social Security number as the only identifier. The Ways and Means Committee subcommittee heard sad cases of individuals who were victims of identity theft. One criminal got $36,000 worth of goods in a three-month period, impacting the victim's ability to refinance her home, get a line of credit at her bank, and get cellular phone service, not to speak of the countless hours spent in phone calls talking with creditors and police. A restaurant busboy named Abraham Abdallah was able to penetrate the banking and brokerage accounts of several very wealthy and prominent Americans through the use of online providers and Internet-based databases. When arrested, he was on the verge of
Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/12/01 12:17:22 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hell, anyone stupid to put over fourteen pounds of stainless steel under his skin deserves to die Stainless steel is not affected by magnets. These are obviously someone's poor attempt at humor. This pumpkin site must be a wannabe onion site. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Why Is Cheney Holding So Much Cash?
http://www.dallasnews.com/business/columnists/scottburns/389574_burns_10bus.AR .html Holding cash - but is he holding out? 06/10/2001By SCOTT BURNS / The Dallas Morning News Dear Vice President Cheney, Is there something you know that we don't know? Is there something you'd like to share with us, the people who may (or may not) have elected you to your current office? Should we be concerned about the economy? Should we sell our stocks now, while there is still time? Into money markets I say this because you're holding a lot of cash. I can't tell exactly, of course, but it's somewhere between $9 million and $43 million. It's a very large part of your net worth, which others have estimated at between $20 million and $69 million. I learned about the cash while reading your public financial disclosure report, filed May 15. It tells me what we already knew – with your retirement from Halliburton, you're a rich man. But it also tells me that you have the bulk of your money in cash. Not stocks. Plain old cash, as though you were waiting for something to happen. Something really bad. The report tells me you've got four checking accounts, including a joint account with somewhere between $1 million and $5 million in it. It's really good to know that you'll be able to handle your electric bill this summer, Mr. Vice President. Mutual questions The report also tells me you've got another 11 accounts that are invested in money market mutual funds. That's a lot of money market funds. Of course, I don't know exactly how much cash you've got because the report has those funny ranges. Like somewhere between $1 million and $5 million in both the Calvert Tax Free money market fund and the Calvert Tax Free Limited Term fund. Or somewhere between $5 million to $25 million in Paine Webber. That's a lot of between. Of course, after the performance of your retirement accounts last year, I can see why you might have a lot of money in cash. With your two qualified accounts spread over 11 funds from American Express, last fall must have been pretty tough on you. I did a Morningstar analysis of the portfolio – approximated, of course – and it showed that the worst time in the last three years for your retirement portfolio was last year, between September and November. You lost about 15 percent of your retirement plan assets just before the election. Add the election, the chads and all that weird stuff in Florida, and you were probably more miserable than the rest of us. Nor have things gotten better since. So far this year, only two of your 11 mutual funds have had a positive return. The rest have lost money in amounts ranging from the 0.3 percent for AXP Utilities Income A shares to a larger loss of 13.5 percent for AXP International A shares. Your biggest fund holding, AXP New Dimensions, is off 8 percent in the first four months and 19.14 percent in the preceding 12 months. Worse, your funds are second-rate performers. Over the last three years, for instance, only one fund has ranked in the top 25 percent of its peer group and another has ranked in the second 25 percent of its peer group. The remaining nine funds have ranked well below the 50th percentile, with five in the bottom 25 percent. The percentile figures are in the accompanying table. All of which brings me back to the real question. If you really think the tax cut is going to get the economy moving, why all the cash?
[CTRL] Dental Groups Sued Over Mercury in Fillings
-Caveat Lector- Tuesday June 12 3:28 PM ET Dental Groups Sued Over Mercury in Fillings By Dan Whitcomb LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A coalition of public interest groups sued the American Dental Association and the California Dental Association on Tuesday, claiming they have misled the public about the dangers of mercury in tooth fillings. The lawsuits, filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, are the latest salvo in a growing battle over mercury fillings, which opponents say can poison the body with leaking vapors possibly linked to Alzheimer's disease (news - web sites) and other neurological problems, especially in children and unborn babies. The dental associations insist that mercury is safe when mixed with other metals and implanted in teeth and that studies have failed to demonstrate that the low level vapors are dangerous. The lawsuits allege violations of California's business and professions code and charge that the ADA and the CDA have issued rules preventing dentists from discussing the dangers of mercury with patients. ``The worst thing they are doing is hiding the presence of mercury in fillings - - which they call silver amalgam -- and trying to keep dentists from saying the 'M' word and keep consumers from hearing the 'M' word,'' plaintiffs' attorney Charles Brown said. ``These fillings are 50 percent mercury.'' Brown filed the lawsuits on behalf of Kids Against Pollution, Dental Amalgam Mercury Syndrome Inc., American Academy of Biological Dentistry and a group of patients who believe that mercury in fillings has made them ill. ``We consider it to be safe and the science certainly indicates that it is,'' CDA spokeswoman Linda Seifert said, adding that her organization advocates dentists explaining the risks of any procedure to patients. Fred Peterson, a spokesman for the ADA, said he could not discuss the lawsuit but issued a prepared statement from the organization on tooth fillings. ``Dental amalgam (silver filling) is considered a safe, affordable and durable material that has been used to restore the teeth of more than 100 million Americans,'' the statement said. ``It contains a mixture of metals such as silver, copper and tin in addition to mercury which chemically binds these components into a hard, stable and safe substance.'' The plaintiffs seek civil penalties and ask the court to stop the ADA and the CDA from putting out ``false, misleading and inaccurate information'' about fillings and stop referring to them as ``silver'' when they have equal parts mercury. The National Institutes of Health (news - web sites) are conducting clinical trials into the effects of mercury fillings in children. Other studies on mercury in fillings have been inconclusive. Similar lawsuits have been filed in federal court in Maryland by dentists and patients, while state legislatures in New York and Maine are considering bills that would require dentists to disclose to patients the makeup of their fillings. ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Caps on Social Security, No Caps on Energy Prices
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/11/01 10:41:46 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The age at which retirees can claim their full Social Security benefit is already scheduled to rise gradually from 65 to 67 over the next several decades. The last update I received from Social Security stated that I cannot collect full benefits until I am 70 years old, if I'm still alive. What are they going to change it to 80 years old? Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] William Cooper On The OKC Bombing
http://williamcooper.com/ Updated: Tuesday, June 12th, 2001, 9:00 AM Oklahoma City Bombing The Plot Thickens By William Cooper All Rights Reserved Veritas News Service -- Exclusive, June 11, 2001 -- We are NOT racist, white supremacist, Zionist, British Israel, Christian Identity, or anti-Semitic. We refute all racist and/or superior race philosophies. We believe that such beliefs are a plague upon the human race. We are loyal Americans interested in the truth. We believe in Liberty and Freedom for all People regardless of race, religion, or place of ancestral origin. On April 19, 1310 fifty-four of the Knights Templars who had recanted after having confessed were condemned as relapsed and sentenced to be publicly burned on 12 May of the same year. The battles of Lexington and Concord opened the American Revolutionary War on April 19, 1775. That day was declared Patriot's Day. On April 19, 1943 German troops entered the Warsaw Ghetto to round up the remaining heroes of the Jewish uprising. Yom Hoshoa (Holocaust remembrance day) is April 19th. The federal takedown of the organization known as the Covenant Sword and Arm of the the Lord occurred on April 19, 1985. The final assault upon the Branch Davidians occurred on April 19, 1993. The bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building also occurred on April 19th. All of these events, and many more, have occurred on April 19th. Another very curious fact is that David Koresh and Timothy McVeigh were both 33 years old at the time of their deaths. Our investigation of the Oklahoma City bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building has uncovered the following: John Doe #1 is Timothy McVeigh. John Doe #2 is Michael Brescia, an army buddy of Timothy McVeigh. Until recently he was in federal custody. The federal government has protected and hidden the identity of this criminal because he is an informant for at least one agency of the United States government. He is not a Nazi, white Supremacist, anti-Semite, or racist. When we asked the FBI to provide us with a photo of Michael Brescia for positive identification they refused. We obtained photos from Patriot law enforcement personnel within our organization. We positively identified Michael Brescia as John Doe #2 from those photos. John Doe #3 has been identified as Andreas Strassmier, a West German Intelligence operative. He is not a Nazi, white supremacist, anti-Semite, or racist. Sources in Germany claim Strassmier is Jewish. This information has been confirmed by two additional independent German sources. John Doe #4 has been positively identified by the Intelligence Service as Gary Hunt. He has never been questioned by any law enforcement agency. Gary Hunt was also involved with the Waco Massacre in 1993. Gary Hunt is an informant for the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (BATF). Gary Hunt masquerades as an American Patriot. The ethnic and religious background of Gary Hunt is not known at this time. John Doe #5 has been positively identified by the Intelligence Service as Daniel Spiegelman (a.k.a. William Taylor), a fund raiser for the Oklahoma City bombing operation. He was arrested and imprisoned in the Netherlands when he attempted to sell historic documents that were stolen from Columbia University for the purpose of financing the OKC bombing. Spiegelman was extradited from the Netherlands to the United States on the condition that he would not be charged with a capital crime for which he could receive the death sentence. United States District Judge Lewis Kaplan, a Zionist, sentenced Spiegleman to 60 months in jail, 3 years probation, 300 days of community service in an adult literacy education program, and restitution to Columbia in an amount not yet determined. Daniel Spiegelman's conviction will most likely be set aside because his defense lawyer Paul Kurtz was discovered to be a fake lawyer. Paul Kurtz, 56, of Bethesda, Md., was charged in a 41-count indictment issued by a Manhattan federal jury for claiming to be a licensed attorney and defending clients including Daniel Spiegelman who was convicted of stealing rare manuscripts from Columbia University. Spiegelman was sentenced in April 1998. Daniel Spiegelman is Jewish. John Doe #6 remains unidentified at this time. We have a video tape of John Doe #6 in the company of Gary Hunt (John Doe #4) walking away from the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building within 10 minutes after the bombs detonated. Both men in the video tape are carrying transmitters in their hands. Mike Vanderboegh of the "John Doe Times" is an agent of the Anti Defamation League masquerading as a Patriot commander of the Alabama 1st Calvary (Militia). The Militia which he claims to command does not exist... it is a fraud. His purpose is to place the blame for the Oklahoma City bombing on Patriots and the Lawful Militia attributing a motive of white supremacist anti-Semitism and racism. A charge that
[CTRL] Germans' Learn Truth About Braun's Peenemunde
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=005214343220745rtmo=3HYYAr8Matmo=rrrq pg=/et/01/6/10/wnaz10.html ISSUE 2207 Sunday 10 June 2001 Germans at last learn truth about von Braun's 'space research' base By Tony Paterson in Peenemunde THE Nazi missile base from where the first V1 "doodlebugs" and V2 rockets were launched is being turned into a museum. For the first time, ordinary Germans will be confronted with the evils behind the "wonder weapons" that Adolf Hitler used to attack Britain in the closing stages of the Second World War. Until now, the Germans have sought to portray the base at Peenemunde - which employed 12,000 people during the war years - as merely the missile research centre run by Wernher von Braun, who later worked on the American space programme. The site has remained a largely deserted wasteland since German reunification in 1990 when the East German army withdrew from the area. Attempts to develop Peenemunde have been fraught with controversy. A German government-backed project to turn the site into an American-style "space park" failed in the early 1990s because of lack of investment. The scheme was also criticised for almost completely ignoring the fact that the site was used to create the most controversial weapons of the war. "Wernher von Braun's post-war involvement in the American space programme provided an excuse to glorify Peenemunde as the place where the technology for the Moon landings was developed," Dr Johannes Erichesen, the German historian behind the new £4.6 million museum project said. "The fact that the Nazis used the place to build missiles to win the war was regarded as an unfortunate aberration." After more than a decade of argument, German regional and central government has begun an investment programme that aims to turn Peenemunde into a museum dedicated to revealing the truth behind Hitler's most ambitious weapons development project. "We are trying to destroy the myths that have obscured the facts surrounding Peenemunde," said Peter Profe, one of the curators at the new museum. "Previous attempts to develop the site have been about as sensitive as proposing to open a supermarket on the site of a former concentration camp." Visitors to the completed sections of the exhibition - it will be two-thirds finished by next month - are already left in no doubt about the importance of Peenemunde for the Nazi regime. The first section of the exhibition is devoted to the inaugural flight of the V2 rocket on October 3, 1942, the first time in history that a missile entered outer space. Original film of the take-off is offset by the voice of the Nazi propaganda minister, Josef Goebbels, glorifying the new "wonder weapon" specifically designed to terrorise Britain. Wall-sized photographs of the destruction caused in London by the V2 and the earlier V1 flying bomb are coupled with private snapshots of German technicians, officers and their wives enjoying the almost holiday-like atmosphere of the Peenemunde base. Such images contrast sharply with the horrific conditions experienced by more than 20,000 foreign slave and concentration camp labourers who perished through starvation and maltreatment while constructing the V1 rocket at "Dora", the underground Nazi armaments factory in Thuringia, central Germany. A Polish slave-labour survivor of the Dora factory recalls how Wernher von Braun visited the works and seemed "completely unperturbed" by the piles of corpses. Further evidence exposes the role played by Heinrich Luebke, the former West German federal president, as one of the organisers of Nazi slave labour at Peenemunde and at Dora. For decades, allegations by Communist East Germany that Luebke was a "war criminal" were dismissed by West Germany as propaganda. The Peenemunde museum is still working on plans for a further exhibit to explain the background to the RAF's raid on the site in August 1943. Codenamed "Hydra", it was one of the largest single bombing sorties ever carried out by Britain and led to production of the V2 being evacuated to Thuringia. Organisers of the exhibition have gone to great lengths to underline the ultimate military failure of the V2. More than 3,000 of the rockets were aimed at London, Antwerp and Brussels during the closing stages of the war. Although they killed 2,774 people in Britain their use failed to alter the course of the war as Hitler had hoped. The V1 flying bomb claimed more than 8,000 lives, but its effect was also of minor military significance. Development of both weapons, however, ultimately accelerated Nazi Germany's defeat. They devoured millions of marks which most historians conclude would have been better spent on improving the German army's tank capability on the Russian Front.
[CTRL] The New Nuclear Danger
http://www.thenation.com/docPrint.mhtml?i=20010625s=schell FEATURE STORY | June 25, 2001 The New Nuclear Danger by JONATHAN SCHELL On June 12, 1982, 1 million people assembled in Central Park in New York City to protest the reckless nuclear policies of the Reagan Administration and to call for a nuclear freeze. They never assembled in such numbers again--in part because Reagan reversed course and opened nuclear arms talks with the Soviet Union, and in part because, after Mikhail Gorbachev came to power, the cold war began to wind down. The day remains in memory as a reminder of how quickly public concern over nuclear annihilation can arise and how quickly it can evaporate. When the cold war finally did end, nuclear weapons pretty much dropped out of the conscious thoughts of most Americans. The weapons themselves, however, remain in existence--some 32,000 strong at last count. Now the policies of a new administration and the rise of fresh nuclear dangers have brought the issue back to awareness. On June 10 a coalition of groups that calls itself Project Abolition will hold an antinuclear demonstration in Lafayette Park across from the White House. It will be the first major effort of its kind in the capital since the end of the cold war. The precipitating event is the new arms race that is threatened by the Bush Administration's embrace of National Missile Defense (NMD) and the weaponization of space. A million people are not expected. But the protesters hope to make up in staying power what they lack in numbers. Their underlying cause is the abolition of all nuclear arms, and their vow is to stick with it for the duration. It is no simple matter to take stock of the nuclear predicament in the year 2001. Under the Bush Administration, the nuclear policies of the United States--and of the world--are in a state of greater confusion than at any time since the weapons were invented. Chaos would not be too strong a word to use. In fact, the greatest current danger may lie not in one policy or another but precisely in this confusion, which leaves the world's nuclear actors without any reliable road map for the future. It is nevertheless essential to try to understand at least the broad outlines of the new shape of the predicament. This exercise is complex and riddled with paradox and contradiction, not to mention wishful thinking and sheer fantasy, yet it is unavoidable if either policy or protest is to make sense. Nuclear danger today has two main sources. The first is the mountain of nuclear arms left over from the cold war. The second is the proliferation of nuclear weapons to new countries. The leftover cold war arsenals are still governed by the policy that prevailed during the cold war, the doctrine of nuclear deterrence, which holds (in its most enlightened version) that the rival great powers are safest when each has the unchallengeable power to annihilate its rival. This way, no one is supposed to try anything, because if anyone does, all will die. Today the United States has about 7,200 weapons poised to fire at Russia, and Russia has about 6,000 poised to fire at us, and the continued existence of each nation depends on the reliability of the other's forces, which is doubtful in the extreme in the case of Russia. Deterrence's provocative other name, of course, is mutual assured destruction, or MAD, a reference to the menace of complete annihilation on which the stability of the arrangement rests. MAD's confusing adjunct is arms control, whose aim has been to draw down the preposterous excess of offensive weapons through the Strategic Arms Reduction Talks (START) while suppressing defenses by observance of the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) treaty of 1972, until this year called the "cornerstone of strategic stability" in NATO planning papers. Defenses had to be suppressed because if they ran free they would upset the laboriously negotiated offensive reductions. MAD, however, is not a creature of the ABM treaty; it is an inescapable condition in a world of large nuclear arsenals, against which no defenses are available. The ABM treaty merely ratifies and codifies this underlying situation, the better to negotiate the reduction--though not the elimination--of offensive forces. Other things being equal, a world without an ABM treaty would not be a world without MAD; it would be a world with MAD but without arms control. MAD was of course a product of the cold war. It was a desperate makeshift in a desperate situation. Today, however, the cold war has long been over. The extreme peculiarity--or downright absurdity--of continuing to rely on MAD is that the political antagonism that underlay and justified it ended ten years ago, when the Soviet Union disappeared. During the cold war, the two powers threatened each other with annihilation for a reason; now they do so without a reason. Russia and the United States have no quarrel that would justify the firing of a single conventional round, not to
[CTRL] New Evidence Shows False Memories Can Be Created
-Caveat Lector- Source: University Of Washington (http://www.washington.edu/) Date: Posted 6/12/2001 I Tawt I Taw A Bunny Wabbit At Disneyland: New Evidence Shows False Memories Can Be Created About one-third of the people who were exposed to a fake print advertisement that described a visit to Disneyland and how they met and shook hands with Bugs Bunny later said they remembered or knew the event happened to them. The scenario described in the ad never occurred because Bugs Bunny is a Warner Bros. cartoon character and wouldn't be featured in any Walt Disney Co. property, according to University of Washington memory researchers Jacquie Pickrell and Elizabeth Loftus. Pickrell will make two presentations on the topic at the annual meeting of the American Psychological Society (APS) on Sunday (June 17) in Toronto and at a satellite session of the Society for Applied Research in Memory and Cognition in Kingston, Ontario, on Wednesday. The frightening thing about this study is that it suggests how easily a false memory can be created, said Pickrell, UW psychology doctoral student. It's not only people who go to a therapist who might implant a false memory or those who witness an accident and whose memory can be distorted who can have a false memory. Memory is very vulnerable and malleable. People are not always aware of the choices they make. This study shows the power of subtle association changes on memory. The research is a follow-up to an unpublished study by Loftus, a UW psychology professor who is being honored by the APS this week with its William James Fellow Award for psychological research; Kathryn Braun, a visiting scholar at the Harvard Business School; and Rhiannon Ellis, a former UW undergraduate who is now a doctoral student at the University of Pittsburgh. In the original study, 16 percent of the people exposed to a Disneyland ad featuring Bugs Bunny later thought they had seen and met the cartoon rabbit. In the new research, Pickrell and Loftus divided 120 subjects into four groups. The subjects were told they were going to evaluate advertising copy, fill out several questionnaires and answer questions about a trip to Disneyland. The first group read a generic Disneyland ad that mentioned no cartoon characters. The second group read the same copy and was exposed to a 4-foot-tall cardboard figure of Bugs Bunny that was casually placed in the interview room. No mention was made of Bugs Bunny. The third, or Bugs group, read the fake Disneyland ad featuring Bugs Bunny. The fourth, or double, exposure group read the fake add and also saw the cardboard rabbit. This time 30 percent of the people in the Bugs group later said they remembered or knew they had met Bugs Bunny when they visited Disneyland and 40 percent of the people in the double exposure group reported the same thing. 'Remember' means the people actually recall meeting and shaking hands with Bugs, explained Pickrell. 'Knowing' is they have no real memory, but are sure that it happened, just as they have no memory of having their umbilical cord being cut when they were born but know it happened. Creating a false memory is a process. Someone saying, 'I know it could have happened,' is taking the first step of actually creating a memory. If you clearly believe you walked up to Bugs Bunny, you have a memory. In addition, Pickrell said there is the issue of the consequence of false memories or the ripple effects. People in the experiment who were exposed to the false advertising were more likely to relate Bugs Bunny to other things at Disneyland not suggested in the ad, such as seeing Bugs and Mickey Mouse together or seeing Bugs in the Main Street Electrical Parade. We are interested in how people create their autobiographical references, or memory. Through this process they might be altering their own memories, she said. Nostalgic advertising works in a similar manner. Hallmark, McDonald's and Disney have very effective nostalgic advertising that can change people's buying habits. You may not have had a great experience the last time you visited Disneyland or McDonald's, but the ads may be inadvertently be creating the impression that they had a wonderful time and leaving viewers with that memory. If ads can get people to believe they had an experience they never had, that is pretty powerful. The bottom line of our study is that the phony ad is making the difference. Just casually reading a Bugs Bunny cartoon or some other incidental exposure doesn't mean you believe you met Bugs. The ad does. ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and
Re: [CTRL] In the Eye
-Caveat Lector- public scrutiny? this, like the traditional presidential bashing and the nailing of celebrities' to trees is designed to stave off the bloodthirst of a suppressed people...it is like teaching a people to fear their bodies...their need for sex can be taxed in the form of a porn industry...sheesh... catch up... Original Message Follows From: Taercel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] In the Eye Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:47:10 -0500 -Caveat Lector- @ Spiked-Online }}Begin Article1 May 2001 Looking the death penalty in the face by Victor Rortvedt I don't often find myself agreeing with a mass murderer. But I have sympathy with the request by Timothy McVeigh, convicted of the Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people on 19 April 1995, that his federal execution on 16 May 2001 be nationally televised. According to McVeigh's lawyer, his client is 'is in favour of public scrutiny of government action - including his own execution'. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Tony Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Apples in Eden Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:36:51 -0500 -Caveat Lector- No case to answer in my view, both the logic and extention of such arguments are extremely poor. Actually, I would have thought that it would be the more 'literalist' branches of creationism that would be upset here. Not only does Satan as entity not exist outside Christian doctrine (and as such, only a Christian can be a Satanist ?) === pan derives from pagn pan is one culture's representation of the horned one - the goat - capricorn - saturnday capricorn markes what has been traditionally the feminine time of the year - the winter's stillness being the fertility required for the life giving initiative borne by summer - the light... eve is a cabalistic metaphor for the feminine in its essence - the scapeGOAT...i.e. it was all eve's fault... this millenia before the advent of monotheism... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: "c." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Apples in Eden Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:56:21 +0100 -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Tony Dickinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:36 PM Subject: [CTRL] Apples in Eden -Caveat Lector- No case to answer in my view, both the logic and extention of such arguments are extremely poor. Actually, I would have thought that it would be the more 'literalist' branches of creationism that would be upset here. oh no! apple shareholders would be much more upset about the creationists boycotting macs i am sure. === yeah...it's not like we're dealing with something evil like the Temple of Set... ...ahem... Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S., like McVeigh, guilty of terrorist attacks (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- U.S., like McVeigh, guilty of terrorist attacks http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.mcveigh11jun11.story By Robert Jensen Originally published June 11, 2001 AUSTIN, Texas - Timothy McVeigh killed twice in his life. For one of those acts, he was sentenced to die. For the other, he was awarded a Bronze Star. To make that observation is not to equate McVeigh's bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City with the Persian Gulf war in which he fought nor to minimize the horror of the deaths of 168 innocents. Though his comments in the media have been unapologetic, even McVeigh seems to understand that he lost his humanity when he parked that truck and walked away as the fuse burned. But what of the collective humanity of the people of the United States after the gulf war? Certainly Iraq's illegal invasion of Kuwait in 1990 demanded an international response. But rather than pursue diplomacy, the first Bush administration pushed for war and carried out a grotesque and gratuitously violent attack that killed thousands of civilians. The United States has yet to come to terms with the fact the gulf war and Oklahoma City having one thing in common. Whatever the justification for each act, the method was the same: Killing civilians. We rightly condemn McVeigh, but as a nation we congratulate ourselves for our victory in the gulf war. Yet in that victory, we indiscriminately bombed civilian areas, hitting residential neighborhoods and hospitals. We targeted power, water and sewage-treatment facilities, knowing that the result would be civilian death from disease and malnutrition. Pentagon planners after the war acknowledged such targets were bombed to give the United States postwar leverage in Iraq. That is a way of saying the U.S. bombings were terrorist acts, the deliberate killing of civilians to achieve a political goal. That violates one of the central rules of international law: The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack, according to the Geneva Conventions. Toward what end was that attack? President George H.W. Bush, who the previous year had illegally invaded Panama, talked of the need to stand up to aggression. The United States' real goal in Iraq, however, was to enhance its strategic domination over the Middle East's vital oil resources and over the profits from that oil. Even if one believes that is a valid foreign policy objective, it cannot justify large-scale killing of civilians. As people search for meaning in McVeigh's execution, let us reflect on America's brutality in the gulf war and other contemporary conflicts. Even a person as fallen as McVeigh could see that brutality, and perhaps we can learn something about our own collective inhumanity from him. A year ago in a 60 Minutes interview, McVeigh, who was a gunner on a Bradley fighting vehicle, said he went to Iraq hyped up, believing not only is Saddam evil, all Iraqis are evil. What I experienced, though, was an entirely different ballgame, he said, and being face-to-face, close with these people in personal contact, you realize they're just people like you. None of this absolves McVeigh. That the U.S. Army taught him to kill without feeling - After the first time, it got easy, he told a relative - does not mean he is not responsible for the killing of innocents. But just as McVeigh should face judgment for his crime in Oklahoma City, so should the United States for its actions in the gulf war. When McVeigh called the children he killed collateral damage, we should remember that he learned the phrase from the military planners under whom he served. We should let that fact trouble our consciences and ponder difficult truths about Timothy McVeigh, and ourselves. Robert Jensen is a professor in the Department of Journalism at the University of Texas at Austin. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy
[CTRL] How it's done: O-L-I-G-O-P-O-L-Y
-Caveat Lector- ol[i[gop[o[ly n., pl. lies OLIG(O) + (MON)OPOLY control of a commodity or service in a given market by a small number of companies or suppliers This is the corporate model for the New World Economic Order. It is based on the successful models in the USA and Europe. After a relatively brief period of innovation and competition, the little and midsize companies are swallowed by their bigger competitors. Then they swallow each other until there remains just a few. Just few enough to conspire and control prices and the markets they swim in. It is living proof that Capitalism doesn't abide competition as Adam Smith's model for a fair system which enriches all naively claimed for capitalism. People who would scoff at the idea of a Unicorn, or Santa Claus, seem to think that belief in an invisible hand is somehow a more serious form of mentation. In truth, capitalism's power to concentrate wealth, is the root of poverty, misery, war, revolution, societal disintegration, and ecological disaster. But other than that, it's a great damn system. Nurev === P A N U P S Pesticide Action Network Updates Service === Top Seven Agrochemical Companies in 2000 May 18, 2001 Corporate consolidation continues to reduce the number of agrochemical/crop biotechnology companies. In 2000, there were only seven companies with sales of more than US$1 billion dollars. In comparison, 11 companies had sales above the US$1 billion mark in 1995. These included Ciba Geigy, Sandoz, AgrEvo, Rhone-Poulenc and Cyanamid, none of which now exist due to corporate mergers. Syngenta, formed by a merger of Novartis and Zeneca in November, topped the list with sales approaching US$6 billion. The German multinational corporation BASF saw a 39% increase in sales, the largest increase of the top seven but due almost entirely to the acquisition of Cyanamid. Monsanto and Bayer were the only two other corporations showing increased sales in 2000, at 8% and 13% respectively. Monsanto's increase was due primarily to sales of Roundup (glyphosate), which accounted for 67% of Monsanto's total sales. Volumes of Roundup sold increased 20% in the U.S. and Argentina, and 16% worldwide -- due to higher sales of Roundup Ready (glyphosate tolerant) crops and glyphosate-based no-till farming practices. According to Monsanto, Roundup Ready soy planted in the U.S. rose by 12%, making up 60% of total U.S. soybean acreage. In Argentina, plantings of Roundup Ready soy increased by 3%, with 90% of the soy in that country now genetically engineered to be glyphosate tolerant. Roundup Ready corn is currently grown on three million acres, but Monsanto sees the potential global market at 200 million acres. Aventis CropScience had virtually no increase in sales in 2000. While sales for Aventis were up in Brazil and the U.S., these gains were offset by low sales in the Asia/Pacific region and in Europe. Aventis was also forced to pay more than US$90 million to cover some of the costs of the StarLink crop buy back last year. Genetically engineered StarLink corn was approved in the U.S. only for use as animal feed; however, the corn was found in corn supplies and products for human consumption. Company officials have admitted that the final amount could be several times higher than that paid in 2000. In April 2001, Aventis announced that it would sell off its CropScience division rather than seeking a separate stock market listing. The company has sent a sale proposal to Monsanto, DuPont and Dow, and to two German firms -- Bayer and BASF. 2000 Top Seven Agrochemical Companies Company 2000 sales (US$ mill.) % change vs. 1999 Syngenta5,888 -2.6% Monsanto3,885 +8.3% Aventis 3,701 -14.3% DuPont 2,511 -3.1% Dow 2,271 -0.1% Bayer 2,252 -2.8% BASF 2,228 +20.0% Sources: Agrow: World Crop Protection News, January 5, March 2 and April 13, 2001. Contact: PANNA. PANUPS is a weekly email news service providing resource guides and reporting on pesticide issues that don't always get coverage by the mainstream media. It's produced by Pesticide Action Network North America, a non-profit and non-governmental organization working to advance sustainable alternatives to pesticides worldwide. You can join our efforts! We gladly accept donations for our work and all contributions are tax deductible in the United States. Visit our extensive web site at http://www.panna.org to learn more about getting involved. === NOTE: Replies to the sender of this message will not be read. To comment, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic
[CTRL] Fw: Palenque 2001--The Emergence Conference: De-coding the UFO Enigma
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Perkins ; Antonio Huneeus ; Michael Linderman ; Stanton Friedman ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Ted Phillips ; Patrick Huyghe ; Jacques Vallee ; Ron Regehr ; Joe Firmage ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Jenny Randles ; Hal Puthoff ; Budd Hopkins ; Bob Wood ; Peter Davenport ; Dr JJ Hurtak ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mike Siegel ; Quickening News ; Peter Robbins ; Gail Staehlin ; Phillip Duke ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Michael Curta ; John Schuessler ; John Carpenter ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; John Alexander ; James Oberg ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Michael Corbin ; Joyce Murphy ; George Filer ; Scott Corrales ; BobTerry Brown ; Jeff Rense ; James Neff ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Randolph Winters ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Richard S. Ralston ; Kevin Randle ; Bev Trout ; Bill Clendenin ; Bill English ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Larry Rogers ; Bob Shell ; Charles T. Oliphant III ; Bruce Cornet ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Joe Trainer ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Vicki Ecker ; Don Ecker ; FSR ; Bill Boshears ; Colin Andrews ; Deb Kauble ; Dave Kauble ; Stefan Duncan ; Vittorio Pacaccini ; AJ Craddock ; Gary Wheeler ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Jim Kross ; Leah Mark Davenport ; Mark Chorvinsky ; Marvin Czarnik ; Dr. Bob Wood ; John Thompson ; Hermit ; Robert Gates ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Amy Hebert ; rhodo19#[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Cliff Capers ; Jim Hickman ; Ron Russell ; Duncan Roads ; Richard G. Gall ; Barbara Adkins ; Carla Balduini ; Rockne Rhodes ; Barry Taylor ; UFO Lawyer ; Walter Sheets ; Davina M Ryszka ; Charlotte Hier ; Apantha Elrod ; Mike Spitzer ; Patricia Mason ; Tim Edwards ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Marv Miller ; Patrick Bailey ; Gary Hart ; Michel Granger ; Paul Bobst ; Tim Beckley ; SCI ; Jim Klotz ; Brendan-Jonnie ; Bill Werner ; John ; Jim Turner ; J Bluestone Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: Palenque 2001--The Emergence Conference: De-coding the UFO Enigma i am pleased and honored to announce the following: for further details go to: http://emergenceconference.comAnnouncing Palenque 2001 The Emergence Conference: De-coding the UFO Enigma-- to be held at the Cha Khan Hotel, November 12 through the 17th 2001 in Palenque, Mexico; location of one of Earth's most sacred portal sites. A stellar group of thoughtful, seasoned, truth-seekers will be featured at this important, once-in-a-lifetime event. Presenters:Antonio Huneeus: UFO historian and international coordinator for MUFONJohn Keel: World's foremost paranormal investigator, author of 30 booksJaime Maussan: Mexico's leading investigative journalist/ufologistChristopher O'Brien: Noted author, media spokesperson and field investigatorChristopher Powell: Mayan sacred geometry expert and Palenque guide David Perkins: Investigative journalist/author, synthesist and creative-thinkerLyssa Royal: Internationally known channel, author, sacred-site portal investigatorDr. Leo Sprinkle: Pioneer abduction researcher/therapist investigatorTata: Mayan traditional elder, shaman and current Mayan Time-keeperNancy Talbott: Leading authority on the scientific study of anomalous activity sitesTracy Torme: Premier ufologist producer/writer. StarTrek, Sliders, Fire in the SkyAlonso Mendez Toporek: Mayan archaeologist, guide and Palenque site expertInterpretations of the Maya Codices indicate this is the time for the meeting of "the Masters of the Stars." Was the dramatic, well-documented commencement of the on-going Mexican UFO "flap," during the July 11, 1991 eclipse a wake-up call? An invitation? Or are we being warned? A melding of ancient knowledge and modern insight, Palenque 2001 The Emergence Conference, is intended to be a bold, synergistic guided step forward toward understanding; a pro-active journey of discovery into the heart of emergence.At the halfway point between the eclipse and the 2012 Maya End Time, The Emergence Conference is long over due. As the modern world degrades spirit and our fragile environment, proactive measures must be formulated and enacted before it is too late. This is the driving vision behind Palenque 2001 The Emergence Conference: Decoding the UFO Enigma. For more information: Christopher O'Brien (719) 256-4407 === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends===
Re: [CTRL] How it's done: O-L-I-G-O-P-O-L-Y
-Caveat Lector- Joshua ol[i[gop[o[ly n., pl. lies OLIG(O) + (MON)OPOLY control of a commodity or service in a given market by a small number of companies or suppliers This is the corporate model for the New World Economic Order. It is based on the successful models in the USA and Europe. After a relatively brief period of innovation and competition, the little and midsize companies are swallowed by their bigger competitors. Then they swallow each other until there remains just a few. Just few enough to conspire and control prices and the markets they swim in. It is living proof that Capitalism doesn't abide competition as Adam Smith's model for a fair system which enriches all naively claimed for capitalism. MJ Bullshit. This is FURTHER proof that you cannot tell the difference between GOVERNMENT and PRIVATE. Regard$, --MJ I was guilty of judging capitalism by its operations and socialism by its hopes and aspirations; capitalism by its works and socialism by its literature. -- Sidney Hook, Out of Step A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet...
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: flw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Body Piercing Teen Killed by Magnet... -Caveat Lector- If anyone seriously believes any of the stories, I have a bridge in Brooklyn and some swampland in Florida I'm sure you'd be interested in buying... ;-) You are a fool. I happen to know the above story is true. I am representing the alcoholic mother in a wrongful death suit. Yeah, Riieeeght! LOL! Could you represent me in a wrongful death class action against the United States? I'd like to sue on behalf of all those who have died in battle for this countryI, of course, as their executor/beneficiary of their estates? === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 41 Nations Using Child Soldiers
-Caveat Lector- ABCNEWS.com Tuesday June 12 9:58 AM ET 41 Nations Using Child Soldiers By SUSANNA LOOF, Associated Press Writer JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (AP) - More than 300,000 children - some as young as 7 - are fighting as soldiers in 41 countries, an international children's rights group said in a report released Tuesday. They are being used as front-line fighters, minesweepers, spies, porters and sex slaves, according to the report by the Coalition to Stop the Use of Child Soldiers. Children are often forced to guard the oil and diamond fields that finance African insurgencies. ``Every child with an AK-47, however small they are, as long as they can hold up that weapon, is turned into an effective killer,'' coalition spokeswoman Judit Arenas said at a news conference Tuesday. The London-based coalition includes several human rights groups, including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and World Vision International. Governments recruit children to fight because of ``their very qualities as children - they can be cheap, expendable and easier to condition into fearless killing and unthinking obedience,'' the report said. Though the number of child soldiers worldwide has not changed much in recent years, the number of countries where they are used has increased to 41 from about 30 three years ago, Arenas said. Africa's wars involve more than 120,000 children, the report said, while Myanmar, the southeast Asian country also known as Burma, has the world's highest number of child soldiers - 50,000. Rebels in the Philippines and Papua New Guinea use child soldiers, and children are fighting in conflicts in Macedonia and Colombia, it said. The use of child soldiers has decreased in the Middle East and Latin America as conflicts there have ended. Mohammed, 17, was forcibly recruited to fight in Ethiopia when he was 15. He recalled a 1999 battle in the report. ``It was very bad. They put all the 15- and 16-year-olds in the front line while the army retreated. I was with 40 other kids. I was fighting for 24 hours. When I saw that only three of my friends were alive, I ran back,'' said the boy, who was identified with only one name. Even countries not at war have problems, Arenas said. Children of Kurdish descent in Sweden and Turkey are being recruited to return to their ancestral land and fight for Kurdish independence, she said. Most child soldiers are 15 to 18 years old, but cases of soldiers as young as 7 are listed in the report, the first global survey of its kind. Child soldiers are often given drugs to make them fearless. A 14-year- old rebel soldier in Sierra Leone said those who refused the drugs were killed, according to the report. The U.N. General Assembly adopted a protocol in May 2000 calling on governments to prevent troops younger than 18 from taking part in combat. The United Nations says 79 countries have signed the treaty, but only six have ratified it. In 87 countries, including the United States and the United Kingdom, youth are recruited into government armed forces, paramilitaries, civil militia and non-state armed groups, though they are not necessarily used in combat. The United States allows voluntary enlistment at 17. - -- Best Wishes Times have changed: America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. - John Quincy Adams A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New Evidence Shows False Memories Can Be Created
-Caveat Lector- About one-third of the people who were exposed to a fake print advertisement that described a visit to Disneyland and how they met and shook hands with Bugs Bunny later said they remembered or knew the event happened to them. isn't FALSE MEMORY SYNDROME the establishment get out clause if charged with mind control or abduction - Can we believe an establishment to produce BonaFide science in view of the fact that the public exposure of Mind Control is gaining ground.? I put it to the list that this Science could be Manufactured in the interests of national security. andrew hennessey A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Understanding the Republicans
-Caveat Lector- From a Washington Insider Comes This News... The GOP National Committee announced today that it is changing the Republican emblem from an elephant to a condom because it more clearly reflects the party's political stance: A condom stands up to inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives one a sense of security while screwing others. -- It is important to note that 67.9243% of all statistics are meaningless.- Albert Weinstein A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JW: CLINTONS INVOLVED IN MASSIVE ELECTION FINANCE FRAUD
-Caveat Lector- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 6/12/2001 Press Office 202-646-5172 BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON INVOLVED IN MASSIVE ELECTION FINANCE FRAUD Judicial Watch Client, Peter Paul, Has Proof of $2 Million in Campaign Contributions Never Reported to FEC Concerning Hillary Clinton's Senate Campaign Mr. Paul Indicted Last Friday For Alleged Securities Violations (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government abuse and corruption, has been representing Peter Paul, an international businessman who financed the Hollywood Tribute to Bill Clinton shortly before the Democratic National Convention last year on August 12, 2000. Mr. Paul made over $2 million in direct and in kind campaign contributions to the Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign to finance the Hollywood Tribute to Bill Clinton - which served as a fundraiser for then First Lady Hillary Clinton. Importantly, Mr. Paul can document with actual checks the contributions to Hillary Clinton's campaign as well as personal thank you notes from Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton. In addition, video and photos exist depicting the closeness of Mr. Paul and the Clintons and underscoring the Clintons' deep thanks for Mr. Paul's generosity, among other matters. Witnesses to this latest Clinton scandal include a number of Hollywood stars, including but not limited to Barbra Streisand, Brad Pitt, John Travolta, Cher and others. In addition, former Philadelphia Mayor Ed Rendell and Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe are implicated. With regard to Rendell, he played a role in Mr. Paul's request for a Presidential pardon for two prior convictions, with Rendell asking for an additional $150,000. Mr. Paul made the over $2 million in contributions to Mrs. Clinton as part of a $17 million deal to induce Bill Clinton to work with his business ventures after he left The White House. Judicial Watch and Mr. Paul have been cooperating with U.S. Attorney's Offices in the Eastern District of New York, Southern District of New York, District of New Jersey and Central District of California. Last Friday, a sealed indictment was issued concerning Mr. Paul, who was alleged to have engaged in improper securities transactions. Mr. Paul has offered his full cooperation to the Justice Department in bringing the Clintons to justice, stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. Mr. Paul currently resides in Brazil and most recently was interviewed by ABC News on camera for an upcoming 20/20 piece. He has also been cooperating with The New York Times and looks forward to the truth coming out to the American people, stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. http://www.judicialwatch.org/unsubscribe.asp. === Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer*[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends === A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Covert War Against Rock Coming Out in Germany
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:24:40 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kein Thema Dear Adam, I just want to tell you that the german translation of COVERT WAR AGAINST ROCK is in progress and that a big newspaper in Dusseldorf did an article on the book and the founding of our publishing house STRANGE. The book will come out late this year (I hope, no, I´m pretty sure). In spite of our bad advance money I hope we´ll do more business in the future. Thanks again for dealing with a newcomer like us. Best wishes to you and Alex Constantine, yours Martin Compart
[CTRL] Postal Service Has Its Eye on You
-Caveat Lector- Postal Service Has Its Eye on You http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200107033.shtml By John Berlau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since 1997, the U.S. Postal Service has been conducting a customer-surveillance program, 'Under the Eagle's Eye,' and reporting innocent activity to federal law enforcement. Remember Know Your Customer? Two years ago the federal government tried to require banks to profile every customer's normal and expected transactions and report the slightest deviation to the feds as a suspicious activity. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. withdrew the requirement in March 1999 after receiving 300,000 opposing comments and massive bipartisan opposition. But while your bank teller may not have been snooping and snitching on your every financial move, your local post office has been (and is) watching you closely, Insight has learned. That is, if you have bought money orders, made wire transfers or sought cash cards from a postal clerk. Since 1997, in fact, the window clerk may very well have reported you to the government as a suspicious customer. It doesn't matter that you are not a drug dealer, terrorist or other type of criminal or that the the transaction itself was perfectly legal. The guiding principle of the new postal program to combat money laundering, according to a U.S. Postal Service training video obtained by Insight, is: It's better to report 10 legal transactions than to let one illegal transaction get by. Many privacy advocates see similarities in the post office's customer-surveillance program, called Under the Eagle's Eye, to the Know Your Customer rules. In fact, in a postal-service training manual also obtained by Insight, postal clerks are admonished to know your customers. Both the manual and the training video give a broad definition of suspicious in instructing clerks when to fill out a suspicious activity report after a customer has made a purchase. The rule of thumb is if it seems suspicious to you, then it is suspicious, says the manual. As we said before, and will say again, it is better to report many legitimate transactions that seem suspicious than let one illegal one slip through. It is statements such as these that raise the ire of leading privacy advocates on both the left and right, most of whom didn't know about the program until asked by Insight to comment. For example, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, who led the charge on Capitol Hill against the Know Your Customer rules, expressed both surprise and concern about Under the Eagle's Eye. He says the video's instructions to report transactions as suspicious are the reverse of what the theory used to be: We were supposed to let guilty people go by if we were doing harm to innocent people when the methods of trying to apprehend criminals violated the rights of ordinary citizens. Paul says he may introduce legislation to stop Under the Eagle's Eye. The same sort of response came from another prominent critic of Know Your Customer, this time on the left, who was appalled by details of the training video. The postal service is training its employees to invade their customers' privacy, Greg Nojeim, associate director of the American Civil Liberties Union Washington National Office, tells Insight. This training will result in the reporting to the government of tens of thousands of innocent transactions that are none of the government's business. I had thought the postal-service's eagle stood for freedom. Now I know it stands for, 'We're watching you!' But postal officials who run Under the Eagle's Eye say that flagging customers who do not follow normal patterns is essential if law enforcement is to catch criminals laundering money from illegal transactions. The postal service has a responsibility to know what their legitimate customers are doing with their instruments, Al Gillum, a former postal inspector who now is acting program manager, tells Insight. If people are buying instruments outside of a norm that the entity itself has to establish, then that's where you start with suspicious analysis, suspicious reporting. It literally is based on knowing what our legitimate customers do, what activities they're involved in. Gillum's boss, Henry Gibson, the postal-service's Bank Secrecy Act compliance officer, says the anti-money-laundering program started in 1997 already has helped catch some criminals. We've received acknowledgment from our chief postal inspector that information from our system was very helpful in the actual catching of some potential bad guys, Gibson says. Gillum and Gibson are proud that the postal service received a letter of commendation from then-attorney general Janet Reno in 2000 for this program. The database system the postal service developed with Information Builders, an information-technology consulting firm, received an award from Government Computer News in 2000 and was a finalist in the government/nonprofit category
[CTRL] [2] On the subject of George Pickingill . . .
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/angelic/361/page2.html Click Here: A HREF=http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/angelic/361/page2.html;On the subject of George Pickingill./A - George Pickingill Junior had none of the reputed abilities of his infamous family. He was an illiterate farm labourer who cadged drinks from the credulous in return for information about the local witches. The Canewdon villagers avoided discussing or naming 'black' witches because they believed that careless words would attract evil to themselves or their families. Maple's informants may have resorted to subterfuge when asked about 'George Pickingill', and substituted the illiterate son for the feared father. The so-called Nine Covens were founded over a period of many years. During the course of his long life, George Pickingill inducted nine women with Hereditary connections into his own version of witchcraft. Armed with Old George's Craft authority and rituals these women formed the nucleus of a Pickingill coven. Nothing in the Lugh corpus suggested that Pickingill exercised a supervisory role over the Nine covens. George Pickingill was an itinerant horse dealer who accompanied his Rom kinsmen to Horse Fairs. He was renowned as a Gypsy sorcerer and met a number of his nine female leaders when travelling with the Rom. The Gypsies have always known the favoured haunts of the traditional witches. They had no trouble locating Pickingill covens. Mike Howard advised me in personal correspondence dated 27th March 1997 : Your comments about the gypsies and Pickingill covens has reminded me of an encounter I had in 1976 with a Romany called George Wells who lived in South London. He claimed to know of Pickingill people on the Suffolk-Essex border at Brandon, and others still in the New Forest area. Mike was not impressed and gave little heed to Wells at the time. In hindsight this was a pity. It may have been possible to corroborate some of the claims in the Lugh material. George Pickingill was apprenticed to a cunning man named Shewell, His education was completed by Rom sorcerers and the leaders of Old Style covens. His reputation preceded him and landowners and influential 'Rosicrucians' were impressed with Pickingill's magical prowess. He was granted access to the archives of several 'Cunning' Lodges. It was not long before Pickingill was exhibiting his gifts at Masonic Temples and private houses. He confined the bulk of his demonstrations to a country house in Hertfordshire. John Symonds states in his biography of Crowley (P1 7 of the 1973 paperback edition) that Eliphas Levi visited Knebworth, the country house in Hertfordshire, where Sir Edward Bulwer-Lytton conducted his magical club. It is certainly possible that BulwerLytton's home was 'The country house in Hertfordshire mentioned in The Pickingill Papers. Many Masons and Rosicrucians are known to have observed the magical experiments at Knebworth. Mike Howard asks (personal correspondence dated 27/3/1999): Could this be the 'country house' where Moina Bergson saw Pickingill do his party tricks? Could it also be, I suggest, the 'country house in Hertfordshire', where in 1939 Moina Mathers' magical equipment was burnt in a bonfire in the grounds?7' (P358 Mary Greer. Women of the Golden Dawn, Park Street Press. USA 1995) Minna (Moina) Bergson married G.S.L MacGregor Mathers, one of three architects of the Golden Dawn rituals. The Magic Club at Knebworth deserves serious research. The claims that international magicians and occultists visited George Pickingill became more credible if this simply entailed travelling to Knebworth, or attending 'Rosicrucian' and Masonic Temples in London. Knebworth was central to London then as now. There was no public transport to Canewdon until after World War I. Doreen Valiente examines the Pickingill material in Chapter Twelve of 'The Rebirth of Witchcraft.' She was virtually forced to do this after endorsing many claims from the Lugh corpus in 'Witchcraft for Tomorrow,' (Robert Hale, UK and St Martin's Press, USA 1978) Doreen argues that it really strains one's credulity 'to believe that Minna Bergson (ie Moina Mathers) became the 'pupil' of a rough old countryman who upheld the idea of sexual induction' as 'a hallmark of the Hereditary Craft' - that is, the passing-on of power by sexual union. Minna Bergson would have swooned. (P202/203) Nowhere in the Lugh text was it claimed or suggested that Moina Mathers was initiated into the Craft. This is Doreen's assumption and a problem of her own making! Minna Bergson (aka Moina Mathers) was a 'pupil' in the sense that she attended four or five of Pickingill's demonstrations at a country house in Hertfordshire. Minna Bergson would have had a sound reason for attending any magical experiments at Knebworth : Bulwer-Lytton was experimenting with the so-called VRIL, the universal magical power which underlies the universe. Doreen has conveniently forgotten that Minna Bergson was
[CTRL] [3] The Story continues . . .
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/angelic/361/page3.html Click Here: A HREF=http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/angelic/361/page3.html;The Story continues /A - Modern witches associate the word Wicca with the Craft of the Wise. This is an unfortunate sylloqism : some witches were called wise men and wise women; all witches belonged to a centralised fertility cult and worshipped the same deities; therefore, all witches were wise men and wise women. Wicca has no connotation with wise or wisdom. It is an Old English word and is the root of the word witch. A Wicca was a male witch and a wicce was a female witch. The word wicca is related to Middle Low German wicken to conjure and Swedish vicka to move to and fro. (P1664 Collins Dictionary of the English Language. Sydney. 1985 reprint) The Lugh article in TC 20, October 1980, cited Robert Graves' claim that witch was derived from the Saxon word wicca, which meant 'a male magician who turns back the forces of evil.' This article correctly derived Wicca from the Old German wic, which originally meant to bend or turn. (P83 and 84. The Pickingill Papers) The wicca was the male priest who manipulated the fo rces of nature for the good of his community. The forerunner of the wicca was the shaman in the oak forests of Northern Europe, who saw visions, interpreted the wishes of the Gods, and generally turned or bent the forces of Nature for communal benefit. The word wise was initially applied to conjurers, cunning people, and diviners in a derisive sense. The Collins Dictionary of the English Language has this entry for wiseacre on P1664 : 1. A person who wishes to seem wise 2. A wise person : often used facetiously or contemptuously. [c16. From Middle Dutch wijsseggher soothsayer, related to Old High German wissaga, German weissager. See WISE , SAY.] The Collins' entry for Wise' has 7. Archaic or Brit. Dialect, possessing powers of magic. (P1663) Professor J.B Russell comments : The explanation that witchcraft means 'craft of the wise' is false...'Wizard', unlike 'witch', really does derive from Middle English wis, 'wise.' The word first appears about 1440, meaning a 'wise man or woman'; in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries it designated a high magician, and only after 1825 was it used as the equivalent of 'witch.' (P12 A History of Witchcraft. Thames and Hudson London 1995 reprint) Agnes Sampson, who was executed for witchcraft in sixteenth century Scotland, was dubbed the wise wife of Keith. There is a growing tendency to argue that wicce denoted a male witch. This fallacy was stated in an article entitled Woodcrafting the Art of Magic. (P14 Aisling No 8) The author, who was certainly indebted to Aidan Kelly, argues : Wicca does not mean Witchcraft, it is Saxon for a female witch (a male is a wicce). After revealing this pearl of wisdom, the author says of Gardner: His Wica, then, was simply 'wise', as in Witan. Needless to say, the author of Woodcrafting the Art of Magic tries to reinforce this view. He claims : ...the council of the combined Chivalry, modelled on the Kibbo Kift, was called the Witan, so Woodcrafters (who used the term 'Craft' as standard shorthand for their work) were 'of the wise', the Saxon derivation of Witan - originally the Anglo-Saxon 'parliament' (P14 Aisling No 8) Most Wiccans will not have heard of the Order of Woodcraft Chivalry, the Woodcraft Folk, and Kibbo Kift Kindred. The editor of Aisling magazine is pushing the theory that these organizations were the true progenitors of Gardnerian Wicca. He explains in the editorial (Aisling No 8) : A combination of Gareth Medway, Dr Ronald Hutton, Terry Baker and myself has been working for years, on the origins of Wicca.. (P3 Aisling No 8) Steve Wilson, the Aisling editor, continues his editorial in this vein : Suffice to say that the origins of Gardnerian Wicca have been fixed with 99% certainty - only certain details may be fuzzy;..Nevertheless, Gerald Gardner has been vindicated at last, putting an end to decades of controversy. I hope that our friends in the Craft will enjoy this new revelation, and that Druids will also welcome Gardner back into our fold again, as it is now clear that he was heavily involved in the revolutions in Druidry that were occurring at about the same time as the Craft was going public. Of course, this new material has also finally relegated the Pickingill Papers (see the Medway article) to the dustbins of pagan history, but quite frankly I almost feel sorry, they, after all, kept both belief and controversy going for many years and the excellent Capall Bann publishers have recently bought out the authoritative edition. (P3 Aisling No 8) Mike Howard replied to this editorial : As the person who edited the Pickingill Papers I was very interested, if not a little amused, to read the speculative theories published in Ausling 8 concerning the (alleged) origins of the New Forest Coven. I feel that your editorial
[CTRL] [4] The Story continues . . .
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/angelic/361/page4.html Click Here: A HREF=http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/angelic/361/page4.html;The Story continues /A - Steve Wilson obviously had problems with the hard evidence which was arriving almost daily. In 1995 he itemized the material which would appear in Aisling No 9. Unfortunately, this edition was never published. The Aisling magazine, which is officially defunct, has been relegated to the dustbins of pagan history. The person who allegedly linked the Order of Woodcraft Chivalry with the Chactonbury Ring coven has not been named. There is no proof that a Woodcraft faction in the New Forest performed nude rites to honour Dionysus, Pan and Artemis. There may be an element of truth in the Aisling argument, but certainly not in the sense in which it was presented. Dr Ron Hutton advised Mike Howard that he did not believe that there was any direct overlap between the Woodcraft Chivalry and Dorothy Clutterbuck's coven. (personal correspondence September 1994) However, Ron did claim that one faction of the Woodcraft Chivalry were also members of the Rosicrucian Theatre. This is a promising lead and could explain what may have happened. One of Dr Hutton's informants was a Dr Faithfull, who attended Woodcraft Chivalry ceremonies in the New Forest in the 1920's and 1930's. Dr Faithfull, who was a member of the Order of Woodcraft Chivalry from 1923 until 1947, had never heard of Dorothy Clutterbuck, Gerald Gardner or Wicca. A link between pre-war witchcraft revivalists and the back to nature movement was only to be expected. Several occultists toyed with the idea of reviving a pagan understanding of Nature. J. Chapman claims : Kenneth Grant well remembers Dion's zest in discussing with Crowley the possibility of reviving the Pagan attitudes to cosmic and elemental forces. (Search for Dion Fortune P145) Grant's recollection of this meeting between Dion Fortune and Aleister Crowley lends credence to the belief that Gardner, Crowley et al set out to revive Paganism under the guise of Wicca. Steve Wilson and his associates have concluded that a Woodcraft group progressed from Paganism and ecology to full-blown witchcraft. This conclusion is unlikely, and is certainly not warranted from the available evidence. Wilson and his colleagues have completely ignored a more plausible explanation : the Woodcraft faction allegedly attending the Rosicrucian Theatre could have encountered members of the New Forest coven. Gerald Gardner always claimed that he met the witches who were to initiate him when he attended meetings of the Rosicrucian Crotona Fellowship. There is no valid reason to disbelieve this story. My own Brethren were adamant that Gardner had encountered a pre-existing coven with traditional pretensions. The Woodcraft faction which allegedly attended the Rosicrucian Theatre could have appropriated circle dancing, quarter invoking and the worship of Pan and Artemis from the witches in the Crotona Fellowship. This theory is all the more feasible because the Co-Masons and Rosicrucians in this Fellowship would have been au fait with Masonic and Golden Dawn rituals. My elders argued cogently that the New Forest rites were a hotch-potch of Traditional Craft practices, ceremonial magic, and a calculated attempt to incorporate concepts culled from Margaret Murray's books. Gardner would subsequently emulate this eclectic approach and augment the scanty rituals he received with material drawn from disparate sources. Gerald Gardner may have been the link between the New Forest coven and the hypothetical Woodcraft faction. He could have met some of the Woodcraft factions at the New Forest Naturist Club. His talk of structured, traditional rites to honour the old Pagan deities would have interested them. Gardner's insistence on nude worship would have appealed to them. Rumour has it that Gardner joined one of the principal Woodcraft groups. This is quite likely. Old Gerald was an inveterate joiner. He liked to attend esoteric meetings which interested his friends. However, Gardner's membership of a Woodcraft faction is not tangible proof that Wicca is the direct descendant of the Woodcraft movement. Wilson and his collaborators have made this leap of faith because they have a vested interest in demonstrating that Wicca has a pure and untainted pagan and ecological background. Several committee members of the Pagan Federation intend to hold Interfaith dialogues with the Christian Church. It is thus necessary to prove that the Revived Craft is nothing more sinister than a re-statement of classical pagan thought. To this end a nebulous pagan theology has been evolved at the direct expense of the authentic witchcraft roots of Wicca. Fred Lamond is a prominent and highly respected member of the Pagan Federation committee. He sent a copy of Aisling No 8 to The Hidden Path, the leading Gardnerian magazine in America. One assumes that Fred was trying to
[CTRL] l] Secret Web Behind AOL's Anti-Gun Policy
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I do not understand how it ties to the anti-gun policy. Anyone know?
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Secret Web Behind AOL's Anti-Gun Policy
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SEPTEMBER 27, 2000COLIN POWELL'S 13.3 MILLION AOL STOCK
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management board ofAmerica Online. Nine months ago, the retired general
voted with othermembers of the board to approve AOL's purchase of Time
Warner.Gen. Powell holds AOL stock options worth $13.3 million. His son
MichaelPowell -- one of the five FCC commissioners -- has refused to
recusehimself from the agency's pending vote on whether to approve the
mergerof AOL and Time Warner. [NOTE: Colin Powell's son
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[CTRL] House Passes Bill to Force Schools to Allow Scouts to Meet
-Caveat Lector- House Passes Bill to Force Schools to Allow Scouts to Meet AP Thursday, May 24, 2001 WASHINGTON - The U.S. House of Representatives approved a proposal that would ensure Boy Scouts access to public schools in a measure inspired by a Florida county's attempt to ban the group because of the organization's anti-gay policy. Language in the measure, tacked onto an education reform bill Wednesday, was lifted directly from a court order overturning the Broward County, Fla., school board's decision to ban the Boy Scouts, said Michael Goode, spokesman for Rep. Van Hilleary, R-Tenn., a bill sponsor. The proposal, approved on a voice vote, says the Boy Scouts of America or any other youth group should be given the same access to school facilities. The Broward County School Board said it had a right to keep the Boy Scouts out because the organization's decision to prohibit gays violated the board's nondiscrimination policy. Boy Scouts of America sued the board, arguing they had the same right to use the schools' facilities as other groups. In March, U.S. District Judge Donald Middlebrooks granted a preliminary injunction permitting the Scouts to use school facilities and buses after hours. Under the House proposal, a school district that did not grant equal access to facilities could lose most of its federal funding. The Boy Scouts should not have to use their precious resources defending their constitutional rights in court, nor should the school systems have to use their precious resources defending against the Boy Scouts in court, Hilleary said during floor debate. Rep. William Delahunt, D-Mass., argued against the amendment This amendment is not about the Boy Scouts, it's about a conservative social agenda that holds passionate views about sexual orientation, Delahunt said. They ought not be able to use the Congress of the United States to make a political statement that promotes intolerance and discrimination. The Broward school board's lawyer, Marylin Batista, said she could not comment on the measure until she reviewed it, but the school board would follow Middlebrooks' order. Jeffrie Herrmann, the Scouts' South Florida Council executive director, had not heard of the amendment. I don't know if we need congressional help ... We've already received an injunction, he said. Terms of use. Privacy Statement. For FoxNews.com comments write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; For Fox News Channel comments write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ©Associated Press. All rights reserved. Copyright © 2001 Standard Poor's This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
