[CTRL] [JBirch] ANother way the greens work to destroy the US economy (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:00:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Marv Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBirch] ANother way the greens work to destroy the US economy Here is the beginning of an important article: - Most Americans don't know it, but the price of natural gas has increased as much as 700% in the last three years. That's what happens in the marketplace when an essential commodity becomes scarce. It's not that there aren't huge amounts of natural gas. The problem is that access to it has been effectively blocked. We're not running out of natural gas, and we're not running out of places to look for natural gas, says Keith Rattie, president of Questar, an energy developer. However, we are running out of places we are allowed to look for gas. -- Read it all at http://www.sierratimes.com/03/08/11/alcaruba.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/A0NplB/TM -~- The opinions expressed on this forum are those of the authors of the articles posted. The John Birch Society has no responsibility for anything that is posted on this forum. The OFFICIAL John Birch Society web page is a www.jbs.org Look alike clone pages, run by others, violate JBS policy. Visit The New American at www.thenewamerican.com The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke 1729-1797 Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who still have swords. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get FAST unlimited reliable uncensored internet service for $9.95 per month No Setup Fees. No Contracts. No limits as to the number of emails you can send at a time No limit on email groups. 5 email accounts at no additional cost. Fastest Dialup Connection available. Click here now http://www.getmysmartisp.net Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Frank Gaffney's Divided Loyalties?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski33.html Divided Loyalties? by Karen Kwiatkowski Frank Gaffney, President of the Center for Security Policy, describes people like me who have closely observed the politicization of intelligence leading up to the invasion of Iraq and said something about it as having divided loyalties. He describes those who have closely observed the impoverished and possibly criminal lack of rational post-invasion planning by senior civilian appointees in the Pentagon and other parts of the present administration and said something about it as having divided loyalties. To be fair, Frank Gaffney truly cares about this countrys security. He leads a neo-conservative thinktank that produces a great deal of the policy input used by the current administration. But Frank has made a few mistakes in his most recent tirade. Gaffneys lament, a front and center opinion piece in the 12 August 2003 Washington Times, says that the source of the broad-based criticism of the administrations latest adventure in governing (Iraq, that is) is simply political divisions in America. He believes that Democratic presidential appointees who are left-of-center ideologues "burrow into the permanent bureaucracy" leaving the next administration "saddled with individuals of a profoundly different ideological stripe who hold senior staff positions and who, under civil service rules, cannot be easily displaced." Politics, shmolitics! Gaffneys lament that evil and hidden leftists are fighting for their own narrow political viewpoints and agenda in Washington (and the Middle East) is indeed most fascinating. Has Frank been reading LewRockwell.com? Say it aint so! Perhaps Frank and I have a lot more in common than I previously thought! Secret leftists, camouflaged Democrats working like busy beavers within the Bush administration. Its really scary. In fact what is most scary is when we actually identify some of these moles! We can start with Gaffney himself, who lists in his extensive resume of government service activities, a formative political tour as "a national security legislative aide to the late Senator Henry M. Jackson." Yes. Thats Henry "Scoop" Jackson, prominent U.S. senator who passed away in 1983 after decades of Democratic service. But the list goes on. Richard Perle, key advisor to the Bush Administration, is not only a Scoop Jackson protg as well, but is reported to remain today a proudly registered Democrat. Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz was profiled in the New York Times last September, in a Bill Keller article called "The Sunshine Warrior." Keller describes him as "a lonely John F. Kennedy Democrat in his conservative Ithaca, New York high school." But he found his political identity later as a self-described "Scoop Jackson Republican." It is not necessary to mention the ideological foundations of neo-conservativism. One may read the authoritative books for that, including Irving Kristols 1983 Reflections of a Neoconservative and his 1995 Neoconservatism: The Autobiography of an Idea. These books contain many things, including the not inconsiderable foundational influence of Leon Trotsky on todays neo-conservatives. This leftist origin is even mentioned in the neo-conservative friendly National Review commendation of George W. Bushs award of the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Irving Kristol in June 2002. Beyond all this, Irving Kristol has contributed wonderfully to modern Demopub and Republicrat thinking with his 1983 Two Cheers for Capitalism, a book that debates the usefulness of the idea. Trotsky would be proud! The truth of the matter, as I have been advised by a wise man who understands the true meaning of service to country, and has lived that service in both war and in peace, is this. The strongly held views of the many Americans who are concerned about factual specifics of the events leading to and following the invasion and occupation of Iraq, as well as the overall directions of American foreign and domestic policy, do not fit the prevailing orthodoxy of left or right. As demonstrated by Frank Gaffneys lament, those who are using these labels are dealing in the past, barking up the wrong tree, putting their faith in a dog that wont hunt. The ideological roots of modern neo-conservativism (as opposed to traditional conservatism and classical liberalism that emphasizes prosperity and peace through small decentralized government that prudently avoids entangling alliances) are a muddy tangle of utilitarian Trotskyite leftism and modern Democrat and Republican salivation over both domestic socialism and foreign imperialism. The truth of neo-conservatism itself defeats Frank Gaffneys attempts to label those who might question its aims and objectives. In all fairness, I may have been taking the Gaffney piece a bit too seriously in fact his column strikes a wonderfully hilarious note with this statement, "Governing is an
[CTRL] U.S. Jew among 3 nabbed in plot to smuggle missile
-Caveat Lector- http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/329224.html Last Update: 14/08/2003 04:17 U.S. Jew among 3 nabbed in plot to smuggle missile By Nathan Guttman and Shlomo Shamir, Haaretz Correspondents NEW YORK - Three suspects, including a Jewish American, had their remand extended Wednesday after being nabbed on suspicion of attempting to smuggle a missile to Muslim terror groups operating inside the United States. British arms dealer Hemant Lakhani is suspected of heading the half a million dollar operation with two accomplices, Yehuda Avraham, a New York resident, and Moinuddeen Ahmed Hameed, of Malaysia, who helped to launder the missile funds. The three were captured in a sting operation mounted over the past 18 months in coordination with American, Russian and British authorities, the FBI revealed Wednesday. Yehuda Avraham received the payment for the first missile from Lakhani and transferred it to a bank account outside the U.S., and Hameed was to launder the money. The FBI's anti-terror team in New Jersey said Wednesday that the missile that was captured was the first of a larger deal, in which Lakhani was ready to provide 50 anti-aircraft SA-18 shoulder missiles. Lakhani's contact, who presented himself as close to Sudanese underground organizations, was in fact an FBI agent. The FBI started following Lakhani 18 months ago after receiving information that he was interested in buying missiles in Russia. Avraham, a diamond merchant, was arrested on Tuesday by FBI agents in his office in Manhattan's diamond bourse. Avraham and his son Gideon are the owners of Ambuy Gem Corp. Avraham, who is 75 years old according to a relative, was born in Afghanistan. He was described as an observant Jew who attends the synagogue in his Forest Hills neighborhood regularly. His son told reporters that the arrest was "ridiculous." A diamond merchant who said he knows Avraham well described him as a quiet, well-liked man, who was probably not aware that he was involved in an illegal deal and certainly had no idea there was any connection between the deal and radical Muslim organizations. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times
-Caveat Lector- How come so many animals do it...?? Well I suppose if you want to get down to the level of a barnyard animal andact like an animal... sure go ahead, go for it.. and be like a bestialanimal... on the lowest level of existance in the natural order of things.Well now, that description can also apply to what you deem 'natural' sex...I guess you don't go in for that, either, since that too is 'bestial'...And domesticated animals are hardly 'the lowest level of existance in the natural order of things'... sure I have seen animals engage in asexualactivities.. BUT that is an bestial animal.. Well 'bestial animals' also engage in sexual activities; they also drink, eat, defecate, and breathe air; are humans supposed to stop doing the same just because 'bestial animals' also do it?if you try and tell me thatthat is all man is.. you are so full of malarky.. man is much more than ananimal.Of course man (and woman) is more than an animal -- but we are no LESS an animal, either.Personally I like animals; unlike you, I don't mind being compared to them, and actually I feel that the comparison is more insulting to the animal than to the human... ;-)Look at hindus... their concept of God puts animals on the same level asGod.. have ever seen them parade their krishna festivals.. where they paradeelephants, and phalluses.. It seems to me that Christian church steeples are pretty phallic-looking...And every December most Christians make a display of decorated evergreen trees and reindeer and every spring they parade lambs and baby chicks and bunnies and colored eggs (all being ancient, pre-Christian.symbols of fertility) there is an old saying.. YOU BECOME WHAT YOU WORSHIP..you worship an animal.. you will become like one... ITS THAT SIMPLE.And if you worship the ghost of someone executed for treason you become...???And someone wondered why I called Christianity superstition... ;-) you are not only clued out about thenatural order in Gods creation, but you need to get clued in on what thebiblical concept of the Godhead is.Well since God created all things, then ALL of creation contains 'the Godhead', even one-celled organismsabout where the sodomites went to Lots house and demanded to rape the mensent to Lot... it was a mob rule outside lots house.. plain and simple, nodifferent than a lynching party.. interesting how the sodomites never talkabout that part.But apparently it would have been acceptable in the sight of your Lord if the mob accepted Lot's offer to give them one of his daughters to rape, instead...The bottom line is that you have a perfect right to practice your superstition -- but you do NOT have the right to force it on the rest of society.June IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Click Here
Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times
-Caveat Lector- This will be one for the book, a Vegetarian lion! Bill On Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003, at 18:08 US/Pacific, iNFoWaRZ wrote: Animals will no longer kill and eat each other. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IRAQ WAR CRITICS PURGED - Neocons are getting rid of their critics
-Caveat Lector- http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html August 13, 2003 IRAQ WAR CRITICS PURGED Neocons are getting rid of their critics in government and the military The battle of Baghdad is over, but the struggle for control of the Bush administration is just now entering its final stages, with the neocons lunging for the State Department and plenty of old-style conservatives and patriots in government returning fire in earnest. Maureen Dowd acidly notes the attempted coup at the Department of State: "Let others fight over whether the war in Iraq was a neocon vigilante action disrupting diplomacy. The neocons have moved on to a vigilante action to occupy diplomacy. The audacious ones have saddled up their pre-emptive steeds and headed off to force a regime change at Foggy Bottom." She's absolutely right that when the neoconservatives within the administration "want something done, they will get it done, no matter what Bush thinks." Ruthless, disciplined, and clear about their policy objectives, the neocons have always operated in the Leninist style, as befits their intellectual history as red diaper babies and Trotskyist apostates. Lenin called the distinctive feature of his organizational views "democratic centralism," a doctrine designed to crush all internal dissent in the Communist movement. Although, in theory, a period of open debate within the party was permitted, once a decision had been reached the matter was closed until such time as the leadership deemed appropriate. The implosion of Communism meant the end of Leninism right? Not quite. The fall of the Kremlin, far from drawing the curtain on the Leninists, merely unveiled a new mutation. The power struggle between the neocons and various clots of resistance to their rule, now taking place in Washington, is the prelude to what the former hope is a successful coup, and the final consolidation of their supremacy in the Bush administration. Colin Powell is their Kerensky. But their triumph is meeting some significant opposition. C. Boyden Gray and the Republican foreign policy realists have formed the Committee for the Republic, an organization explicitly devoted to blocking the neocons imperial project. Within the Washington elite a huge split is developing, and the government of the United States has been turned into a battlefield between the contending factions. The neocons want the U.S. to set off on the road to Empire, while an emerging coalition of skeptics has arisen to actively oppose them a development our latter-day Leninists find enraging. The importance of the party purge, a periodic cleansing of the body politic, was a central canon of Leninist theory and practice, as the history of the Soviet Union attests. With Trotsky's ghost recently seen walking the corridors of power, it's no wonder the Purge has come to Washington. First to sound the call for a cleansing is Frank J. Gaffney, the energetic hawk who heads up the Center for Security Policy (CSP): in a recent screed he denounced "obstructionism" in the ranks of the Bush administration. Certain "career civil servants" in Foggy Bottom constitute "a hotbed of covert and occasionally overt opposition to much of President Bush's foreign and defense policy agenda." Just as rising resistance to the occupation of Iraq is routinely attributed to the "remnants" of "Saddam loyalists," so all opposition to the War Party's dominance in Washington is due to "Clinton era left-overs." Except it isn't true. The hottest part of this hotbed is supposedly the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), according to Gaffney, where two recently retired analysts, Greg Thielmann and Christian Westermann, exposed the machinations of a cross-agency cabal to manipulate the information reaching decision-makers, including the President. Now that the sheer enormity of these lies is coming to light, the neocons are in a panic: they don't want any part of the blame for the developing scandal. As MSNBC's Michael Moran put it: "With U.S. troops dying in Iraq at a rate even the White House sees as politically unsustainable, there is a palpable desire to lay to rest any questions about the war's real motives." The testimony of Thielmann and Westermann confirmed what critics of the war have been saying all along: that intelligence was cooked by neocon apparatchiks and spiced up with outright lies. The goal was to mislead the public and overcome the objections of CIA and high-ranking senior military leaders in the Pentagon who saw the present quagmire coming. That mission was accomplished, but now the political and human consequences of the war are starting to roll in, and the truth is getting out to the heartland. With the bodybags also rolling in, questions are being asked, especially by the families and friends of the troops as well as the troops themselves. A recent televised interview with soldiers in Iraq in which they called for Rumsfeld's involuntary resignation
[CTRL] Defense outlines cult theory, Boston church paid $21.2M US to settle abuse cases
-Caveat Lector- scroll for news articles from mparent Defense outlines cult theory by John Coté and Garth Stapley 8/13/03 "Scott Peterson's defense team Tuesday briefed two forensic experts on a satanic cult theory, including paintings and artwork near San Francisco Bay and an experiment showing that the pregnant Laci Peterson's body could have been placed in the water at the art site. Attorney Matt Dalton, using a laptop computer, showed artwork that he said depicted ritualistic killings and occult practices, and said the artwork could be found near the end of a peninsula in the bay." http://www.modbee.com/local/story/7281680p-8207305c.html Records show Boston church paid $21.2M US to settle abuse cases in 1994-2001 Denise Lavoie 8/13/03 Boston (Ap) - "As alleged victims of clergy sexual abuse began considering the Boston archdiocese's offer to settle 542 lawsuits, records were released showing the archdiocese paid at least $21.2 million US in settlements to 149 people from 1994 to 2001. " Http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/030812/w081241.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter The NeoCon Trojan Horse
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/13/2003 2:32:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Horse I think that's misspelled. Prudy www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...
-Caveat Lector- The "missing link" is proof that one specie changed into another. There is no fossil record to show that. You are dissembling. Many scientists are now questioning the theory of evolution because it has not been proved scientifically. It remains a theory with some facts (fossil records) yet to be found that bear it out. JR - Original Message - From: Nessie SFBG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd... -Caveat Lector- When did they (the so-called scientists) find the missing link?Long ago, and they keep finding more. The fossil record, though stillnot complete, is more than complete enough to demonstrate thevalidity of the theory to any who examine the evidence objectively.This, of course, leaves out all those too befuddled by primitive,superstitious delusions.More complete is the record of mitochondrial DNA.See:http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.htmlBelieve is what stupid people do instead of find out the truth for themselves.www.ctrl.orgDECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substanceâ?"not soap-boxingâ?"please! These aresordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'â?"with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright fraudsâ?"is used politically by different groups withmajor and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, andalways suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives nocredence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="">ctrlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Rendon Group
-Caveat Lector- http://www.inthesetimes.com/comments.php?id=299_0_1_0_C How To Sell a War The Rendon Group deploys perception management in the war on Iraq By Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber | 8.4.03 As U.S. tanks stormed into Baghdad on April 9, television viewers in the United States got their first feel-good moment of the wara chance to witness the toppling of a giant statue of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. Americans channel-flipping over breakfast between Fox, CNN and CBS all saw the same images, broadcast live from Baghdads Firdos Square. For those who missed it in the morning, the images were continually replayed on cable news throughout the day, and newspapers carried front-page color photos. A crowd of jubilant Iraqis had climbed onto the statue, thrown a noose around its neck and tried to pull it down. A man with a sledgehammer began pounding at its concrete base. Others took turns, but the statue was too big and the base too massive, so the U.S. marines moved in with an armored vehicle and a chain. Saddams statue first bent from its pedestal and then snapped completely, to roars of approval from the crowd, which surged forward to stomp on its remains, kicking and spitting on the rubble. Whooping, they dragged its head through the street. Media commentators were quick to assign iconic significance to the statues tumble, ranking it alongside the fall of the Berlin Wall, the protesters facing down tanks at Tiananmen Square, and other great events caught on TV. NBCs Tom Brokaw compared the event to all the statues of Lenin [that] came down all across the Soviet Union. Iraqis Celebrate in Baghdad, reported the Washington Post. Jubilant Iraqis Swarm the Streets of Capital, said the headline in the New York Times. It was liberation day in Baghdad, proclaimed the Boston Globe. If you dont have goose bumps now, gushed Fox News anchor David Asman, you will never have them in your life. The problem is that the images of toppling statues and exulting Iraqis, to which American audiences were repeatedly exposed, obscured a larger reality. A Reuters long-shot photo of Firdos Square showed that it was nearly empty, ringed by U.S. tanks and marines who had moved in to seal off the square before admitting the Iraqis. A BBC photo sequence of the statues toppling also showed a sparse crowd of approximately 200 peoplemuch smaller than the demonstrations only nine days later, when thousands of Iraqis took to the streets of Baghdad calling for U.S.-led forces to leave the city. Los Angeles Times reporter John Daniszewski, who was on the scene to witness the statues fall, caught an aspect of the days events that the other reporters missed. Most Iraqis were indeed glad to see Saddam go, he wrote, but he spoke near the scene with Iraqi businessman Jarrir Abdel-Kerim, who warned that Americans should not be deceived by the images they were seeing. A lot of people are angry at America, Abdel-Kerim said. Look how many people they killed. Today I saw some people breaking this monument, but there were peoplemen and womenwho stood there and said in Arabic: Screw America, screw Bush. So all this is not a simple situation. Perception Management The visual images, of course, are what most people will remember. But it is worth asking whether the toppling of Saddam was as spontaneous as it was made to appear. If this scene seemed a bit too picture-perfect, perhaps there is a reason. Consider, for example, the remarks that public relations consultant John Rendonwho, during the past decade, has worked extensively on Iraq for the Pentagon and the CIAmade on February 29, 1996, before an audience of cadets at the U.S. Air Force Academy. I am not a national security strategist or a military tactician, Rendon said. I am a politician, and a person who uses communication to meet public policy or corporate policy objectives. In fact, I am an information warrior and a perception manager. He reminded the Air Force cadets that when victorious troops rolled into Kuwait City at the end of the first war in the Persian Gulf, they were greeted by hundreds of Kuwaitis waving small American flags. The scene, flashed around the world on television screens, sent the message that U.S. Marines were being welcomed in Kuwait as liberating heroes. Did you ever stop to wonder, Rendon asked, how the people of Kuwait City, after being held hostage for seven long and painful months, were able to get hand-held American, and for that matter, the flags of other coalition countries? He paused for effect. Well, you now know the answer. That was one of my jobs then. Of course, we have no way of knowing whether Rendon or any other PR specialist helped influence the toppling of Saddams statue or other specific images that the public saw during the war in Iraq. Public relations firms often do their work behind the scenes, and Rendonwith whom the Pentagon signed a new agreement in February 2002is usually reticent about his work. But his description
[CTRL] Boycotting Israel Illegal?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.bxa.doc.gov/news/2002/antiboycottcompliance5_14_02.htm Commerce Official Urges Compliance with Regulations Opposing Boycott of Israel Commerce Under Secretary for Industry and Security Kenneth I. Juster today reiterated to U.S. companies that the Department will vigorously enforce its regulations prohibiting U.S. persons from taking any action in support of foreign government boycotts against Israel. "The U.S. Government stands firm in its policy of opposing restrictive trade practices or boycotts against Israel," Juster said. "The Commerce Department is committed to using all of its resources to oppose economic boycotts against Israel and corporations that do business with Israel." The Commerce Department's antiboycott regulations are administered by its Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS). Those regulations prohibit U.S. persons from taking actions in support of unsanctioned foreign government boycotts, including the Arab League boycott of Israel. Prohibited actions include refusing to do business with Israel, refusing to employ citizens on the basis of race or religion, or furnishing to foreign governments information about an employee's race or religion, when taken in support of the boycott. BIS is closely monitoring recent reports of renewed calls by certain foreign governments for boycotts of Israeli businesses and U.S. companies that do business with Israel. BIS has a long record of aggressive enforcement of the antiboycott regulations with over $26 million in civil penalties imposed, a criminal conviction, and denials of export privileges where violations have been found. Questions concerning Commerce's antiboycott regulations can be directed to its Office of Antiboycott Compliance by telephone (202-482-2381) or via email www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- I see you have swallowed the whole queer propaganda lie, hook, line, and sinker. The purported facts in your post are total BS. In other words, they are lies. As are the opinions in your post although you are entitled to that. But your post shows who and what you are. You condemn morality and virtue and praise corruptness and perversion. At the same time you infer bigotry, though a twisted definition of the same, on those that oppose this criminal unnatural behavior, you have managed to expose yourself thoroughly as an anti-religious bigot, of the correct definition. If you beleive you are doing something good, you are wrong. What good can come from tearing down the moral foundations of a nation? At 05:22 PM 8/10/03 , you wrote: Homosexuality -- in fact, any sexual activity between consenting adults -- does not harm anyone (as long as the participants avoid unwanted pregnancy and transmission of disease). Sexual activity -- the sharing of mutual pleasure -- is in fact beneficial: it often brings people closer together, and it discharges energy that otherwise might lead to frustration and anger. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CIA and DoD Attempted To Plant WMDs in Iraq and Failed
-Caveat Lector- http://www.envirosagainstwar.org/edit/index.php?op=viewitemid=331 CIA and DoD Attempted To Plant WMDs in Iraq and Failed July 2, 2003 Pentagon Whistleblower Reveals CIA/DoD Fiascos According to a stunning report posted by a retired Navy Lt. Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department, the Bush administration's assurance about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was based on a CIA plan to "plant" WMDs inside the country. Nelda Rogers, the Pentagon whistleblower, claims the plan failed when the secret mission was mistakenly taken out by "friendly fire." http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/06/266752.shtml 20.06.2003 [08:07] A DoD whistleblower details an attempt by a covert US team to plant weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The team was later killed by friendly fire due to CIA incompetence. In a world exclusive, Al Martin Raw.com [http://www.almartinraw.com/] has published a news story about a Department of Defense whistleblower who has revealed that a US covert-operations team had planted "Weapons of Mass Destruction" (WMDs) in Iraq, then "lost" them when the team was killed by so-called "friendly fire." The Pentagon whistleblower, Nelda Rogers, is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the Defense Department. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq. According to Al Martin Raw.com, "Ms. Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of Defense." The information that is being leaked out is information "obtained while she was in Germany heading up the debriefing of returning service personnel, involved in intelligence work in Iraq for the Department of Defense and/or the Central Intelligence Agency. "According to Ms. Rogers, there was a covert military operation that took place both preceding and during the hostilities in Iraq," reports Al Martin Raw.com, an online subscriber-based news/analysis service which provides "Political, Economic and Financial Intelligence." Al Martin is a retired Lt. Commander (US Navy), the author of a memoir called "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran-Contra Insider, " and he is considered one of America's foremost experts on corporate and government fraud. Ms. Rogers reports that this particular covert operation team was manned by ex-military personnel and that "the unit was paid through the Department of Agriculture in order to hide it, which is also very commonplace." According to Al Martin Raw.com, "the Ag Department has often been used as a paymaster on behalf of the CIA, DIA, and NSA and others." Accordng to the Al Martin Raw.com story, another aspect of Ms. Rogers' report concerns a covert operation which was to locate the assets of Saddam Hussein and his family, including cash, gold bullion, jewelry and assorted valuable antiquities. The problem became evident when "the operation in Iraq involved 100 people, all of whom apparently are now dead, having succumbed to so-called `friendly fire.' The scope of this operation included the penetration of the Central Bank of Iraq, other large commercial banks in Baghdad, the Iraqi National Museum and certain presidential palaces where monies and bullion were secreted." "They identified about $2 billion of cash in US dollars, another $150 million in Euros, in physical banknotes, and about another $100 million in sundry foreign currencies ranging from Yen to British Pounds," reports Al Martin. "These people died, mostly in the same place in Baghdad, supposedly from a stray cruise missile or a combination of missiles and bombs that went astray," Martin continues. "There were supposedly 76 who died there and the other 24 died through a variety of 'friendly fire,' 'mistaken identity,' and some of them---their whereabouts are simply unknown." Ms. Rogers' story sounds like an updated 21st-Century version of Treasure Island meets Ali Baba and the Bush Cabal Thieves, writes Martin. "This was a contingent of CIA/ DoD operatives, but it was really the CIA that bungled it," Ms. Rogers said. "They were relying on the CIA's ability to organize an effort to seize these assets and to be able to extract these assets because the CIA claimed it had resources on the ground within the Iraqi army and the Iraqi government who had been paid. That turned out to be completely bogus. As usual." "CIA people were supposed to be handling it," Martin continues. "They had a special `black (unmarked) aircraft to fly it out. But none of that happened because the regular US Army showed up, stumbled onto it and everyone involved had to scramble. These new Iraqi "Asset Seizures" go directly to the New US Ruling Junta. The US Viceroy in Iraq Paul Bremer is reportedly drinking Saddam Hussein's $2000 a bottle Napoleon-era brandy, smoking his expensive Davidoff cigars and he has even furnished
[CTRL] MRC Web News - Our Latest Analysis (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 14:17:28 -0700 From: Media Research Center IS Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MRC Web News - Our Latest Analysis [mrcgoldlogo.gif] Media Research Center America's Media Watchdog Bringing Political Balance and Responsibility to the Media MRC Web News: Our Latest Analysis August 6, 2003 Daily updates on MRC's latest analysis Todays CyberAlert: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030806.asp 1. CNBC: On Many Issues Dean Centrist, But Lauer: Too Liberal? Monday night on CNBC, David Shuster delivered another effort to portray Howard Dean as less than liberal. On the News with Brian Williams, Shuster contended: On many issues, Dean is a centrist. He supports the death penalty, gun ownership and balanced budgets. But Shusters story did go on to recount how competitors Joe Lieberman and John Kerry are calling Dean too liberal to win a general election. And on Tuesdays Today, during an interview with Dean, Matt Lauer actually took him on from the right: Are you too liberal to win the general election? 2. Hollings Stories Laud Racial Record, Skip Segregationist Work Washington Post and New York Times stories Tuesday, on the decision of South Carolina Senator Ernest Hollings to not seek re-election, lauded the Democrat for how, in contrast to what occurred in other Southern states, as Governor he had presided over the peaceful and orderly desegregation of South Carolinas public schools. But in offering such a positive review of Hollings record on race, the newspapers skated over his role as a dogged defender of segregation who only gave in when he realized the fight was hopeless, a favor not afforded to Southern Republicans with an unpleasant history on race. 3. Conservatives Follow Like the Members of a Moose Lodge Reminiscent of how a Washington Post reporter claimed in a news story that Christian Right leaders can easily generate support because their followers are largely poor, uneducated, and easy to command, Boston Globe Washington Bureau Chief Peter Canellos on Tuesday passed along a similar stereotype in a story about a new liberal legal group. Canellos opined: While conservatives answer a call to order like the members of a Moose Lodge, liberals fall to cat-fighting like contestants on a reality-TV dating show. He did at least add, or so the thinking goes. Plus, Antonin Scalia was the driving force behind the Supreme Court's decision granting George W. Bush the presidency over Al Gore. See todays entire CyberAlert at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030806.asp Advertisement www.TimesWatch.org TimesWatch.org Frank Richs Persecution Complex Times editor Frank Rich attacks as anti-Semitic Mel Gibsons upcoming movie on the last hours of the life of Christ, claiming its real tinder-box effect could be abroad, where anti-Semitism has metastasized since 9/11. But in the past liberal Rich has ridiculed the idea that movies cause violence. And his criticism is particularly hypocritical considering his discussion of 1995s pro-gay, anti-Catholic Church movie Priest. Read the entire article as posted on TimesWatch.org: http://www.timeswatch.org/articles/2003/0806.asp Advertisement JOIN THE MRC TODAY The MRC has a unique opportunity that would greatly benefit our work to expose the left-wing agenda of the national media. But it can only be realized with your support Become a Supporter in Our Quest for Truth and Balance! https://secure.mediaresearch.org/Donation/Order/MediaResearch25-27/mck-cgi/mrcdo nate.asp Bozell's News Column Dean's No Civil Centrist Should we feel sorry for the press as they try, frantically, to apply a barrel of pancake makeup to Howard Dean and present this raging leftist to America as a soggy centrist? This is a really tough job. The entire political spectrum is going to have to be dragged off to the left of Massachusetts. Its hard not to snicker at the thought of newspapers like The Washington Post declaring in a Sunday front-page headline: As Governor, Dean Was Fiscal Conservative. Liberal reporter Michael Powell (last noticed in a furious fit of powder-puffing Senator Hillary
[CTRL] Less Than Meets the Eye?
Sources tell ABCNEWS the U.S. government sting operation that led to the arrest of accused arms dealer Hemant Lakhani was a setup. (ABCNEWS.com) Less Than Meets the Eye? U.S. Government Sting Operation Criticized as Setup By Brian Ross Aug. 13 - Administration officials are leaving out key facts and exaggerating the significance of the alleged plot to smuggle a shoulder-launched missile into the United States, law enforcement officials told ABCNEWS. They say there's a lot less than meets the eye. The accused ringleader, British national Hemant Lakhani, appeared today in federal court in Newark, N.J., and was ordered held without bond on charges of attempting to provide material support and material resources to terrorists and acting as an arms broker without a license. Outside the courtroom, U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie called Lakhani an ally of terrorists who want to kill Americans. He, on many occasions, in recorded conversations, referred to Americans as 'bastards' [and] Osama bin Laden as a hero, said Christie. But what he did not say was just how much of the alleged missile plot was a government setup from start to finish. For example, Lakhani had no contacts in Russia to buy the missiles before the sting and had no known criminal record for arms dealing, officials told ABCNEWS. Here we have a sting operation on some kind of small operator who's bought one weapon when actually, on the gray and black market, hundreds of such weapons charge hands, said military analyst Pavel Felgenhauer. Court documents show much of the case is based on the government's key cooperating witness, an informant seeking lenient treatment on federal drug charges, officials told ABCNEWS. He was the first person who led the government to Lakhani. 'He Might Say Anything' The missile shipped into the New York area last month was not a real missile - just a mockup - also arranged entirely by the government. The government also arranged the meetings at a New Jersey hotel and elsewhere, where Lakhani allegedly told undercover agents posing as al Qaeda terrorists about his support of bin Laden. One would have to ask yourself, would this have occurred at all without the government? said Gerald Lefcourt, a criminal defense attorney. In London today, Lakhani's neighbors described him as a quiet man who worked in the garment industry and had faced serious financial problems. I would have hoped the United States is thwarting real terrorism and not something manufactured because here all they're doing is stopping something they created, said Lefcourt. Government officials said the case will show that Lakhani went along with the scheme willingly and was not entrapped. But the question remains whether any of this would have happened if the government had not set it up.
[CTRL] Walking into Israels trap
-Caveat Lector- Walking into Israels trap In retrospect, the fighting between Hizbullah and Israeli forces in the Shebaa Farms Friday was a fairly predictable outcome of the assassination last Saturday of Hizbullah member Ali Hassan Saleh, which was almost certainly an Israeli operation. However, why did the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon risk reviving an overt and covert war with Hizbullah that Israel has rarely showed signs of winning? When entering the dark corners of the Hizbullah-Israeli relationship, one can only speculate. Still, the political context in the region and in Washington allows for fairly educated guesses. When Israel kills a Hizbullah member, it provokes pleasure or, at best, indifference in the US. In contrast, when Hizbullah retaliates in kind, the Bush administration feigns outrage. That line of reasoning surely guided Israel in Salehs killing. With Hizbullah chafing because of its previously enforced quietude in the Shebaa Farms, the Israelis calculated the party would retaliate and, so, provoke renewed US hostility. Hizbullah did retaliate it had to in order to preserve its deterrent capabilities vis-a-vis Israel and now appears to have walked into an Israeli trap. The killing of Saleh most probably had two other aims. First, it had to be seen in light of Hizbullah secretary-general Hassan Nasrallahs effort 10 days ago to revive negotiations on an exchange of Israeli and Lebanese prisoners, or their remains. By bombing Salehs car, Israel warned Nasrallah to avoid kidnapping more Israelis as bargaining chips, as he had threatened to do if a prisoner exchange wasnt concluded. In this context, Israel may have also been trying to raise the negotiating stakes. It remains unclear what each side demanded from the other in the past. Does Israel want information on the downed airman Ron Arad? Is Hizbullah trying to ensure that Palestinian prisoners are also included in an exchange package? Are both sides really interested in cutting a deal at all? More importantly, Salehs assassination was also intended to fence in the Syrians. In provoking a Hizbullah strike, the Israelis understood this would only bring more American wrath down on Damascus. With Congress eager to resurrect the Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2003, any move by Hizbullah could be used against Syria by Israels friends in Congress, but also by Washington neoconservatives who have no sympathy for the regime of President Bashar Assad. Hizbullahs decision to act in the Shebaa Farms was revealing. Many expected the party to mount a retaliatory attack that was deniable and limited in scope. What occurred, instead, was a return to the unsubtle ways of the past. A possible explanation for this was that Hizbullah had to react quickly to Salehs killing, and didnt have time to plan a surgical attack. Another is that by confining its operation to the Shebaa Farms, Hizbullah showed it was adhering to the rules of the game in the South, even though Israel failed to do so last Saturday. Yet even a restricted operation in the Shebaa Farms can now be disproportionately played up in Washington, where the hawks are truly hawk-like in their aptitude to zero in on Syrian and Hizbullah transgressions. Syria and Hizbullah found themselves in the unenviable position of being damned if they didnt react to the Saleh assassination, and, now, damned that they have. The American backlash may not be felt right away. Israels provocation in rubbing Saleh out could have been part of a longer-term strategy to destroy any goodwill the Syrians might still have in Washington, and to use this as leverage to push Assad into disarming Hizbullah. Whatever the explanation, the message this past week was a simple one: Neither Hizbullah nor Syria may have opened fire on Israel, but the cards are so stacked against them in the US that theyre the ones who will end up paying the highest price. Michael Young is opinion editor of THE DAILY STAR. His weblog is www.beirutcalling.blogspot.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to
[CTRL] Panel Delays Moose's Pay
-Caveat Lector- Sounds like Charles and Sandy Moose are bush league Jesse Jacksons in the extortion game. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25965-2003Aug6?language=printer washingtonpost.com Panel Delays Moose's Pay Montgomery Seeks Details on Legal Settlement By Matthew Mosk and Dana HedgpethWashington Post Staff WritersThursday, August 7, 2003; Page B01 Montgomery County is withholding former police chief Charles A. Moose's final paycheck while the county Ethics Commission seeks more details about a legal settlement he listed as income on his 2003 financial disclosure form, county officials said. Moose is asking to keep confidential the source and amount of the money he and his wife received prior to his resignation June 28. The payment was mentioned on forms made public by the commission last week. The forms do not disclose who made the payment. But Moose sought a financial settlement this year from Marriott International Inc., according to sources familiar with that request. The Bethesda-based hotel chain is one of the largest corporations doing business in Montgomery County. Chief Moose sought the settlement after alleging that he was a victim of racial discrimination in December while staying at a Hawaiian resort managed by the chain, according to one of the sources, who was briefed on the incident at the heart of the allegations. The source did not know how much Marriott ultimately paid but said the Mooses requested the company give them $200,000 to avoid a lawsuit. Moose and his wife have repeatedly declined to comment for this story. Washington civil rights attorney John Relman, who handled the matter for the Mooses, hung up the phone when asked about the case. Marriott officials released this statement: "He did stay with us in Hawaii. An issue arose inadvertently during his stay. We resolved it." "Beyond that," said company spokesman Tom Marder, "there isn't more that we can discuss." The Ethics Commission collects financial disclosure reports from top-level county employees and elected officials every year. As part of his 2003 report, Moose filed a form in which he invoked a provision in the county's ethics law that allows the details of such a settlement to remain confidential, so long as the employee assures the commission that his county department was not regulating or doing business with the party that paid him. The payment, and Moose's assertion that it can stay secret, presents a dilemma for the Montgomery County Ethics Commission, which has already tangled with the famous former chief over his plans to write a book about the Washington area sniper case. County officials said that because Moose supplied so little information about the settlement, the commission has no way of determining whether he can legitimately keep it from public view. The commission asked county officials to withhold Moose's final paycheck while a county attorney seeks more information from Relman. According to Marc P. Hansen, chief of the county's division of general counsel, the two lawyers "have been playing phone tag" for at least a week. County Council member Phil Andrews (D-Gaithersburg) said he believes that the commission should be told more. "At the very least," Andrews said, "I would want the Ethics Commission to be able to determine whether it's appropriate that it stay confidential." The dispute that led to the Mooses' financial settlement originated at the JW Marriott Ihilani resort and spa at Ko'Olina, a luxurious, grassy beachfront property with manmade lagoons and a golf course about 30 miles outside downtown Honolulu. Late in December, still exhausted from the three-week sniper manhunt and the accompanying media blitz, the chief flew with his wife to the Hawaiian hotel to celebrate their 14th wedding anniversary and finally get some rest. At some point during the Mooses' stay, sources familiar with the allegations said, the chief wandered into what the hotel managers call "the back of the house," an unfinished area reserved for employees . Moose was confronted by a hotel employee. When the chief was asked to produce proof he was a guest at the hotel, in the form of a room key, an argument ensued, the sources said. The details of the exchange have not been publicly disclosed. At some point after this exchange, Moose contacted Relman. The Washington civil rights lawyer, who is best known for his representation of African American plaintiffs suing the Denny's restaurant chain, was also a very familiar name to Marriott's attorneys, the sources said. In 1999, Relman helped represent the NAACP in a lawsuit against the Adam's Mark hotel chain after Black College Reunion participants complained of discrimination at a hotel in Daytona Beach, Fla. Two years later, Relman and NAACP attorneys settled the case for $2 million. In a letter to a top-level Marriott executive, the source said, the Mooses threatened to sue over what they
[CTRL] Global Eye - Snuffed Candles
-Caveat Lector- http://www.tmtmetropolis.ru/stories/2003/08/01/120.html Global Eye -- Snuffed Candles By Chris Floyd In a stunning development, the Bush Regime announced its unconditional and abject surrender in Iraq this week. The humiliating retreat was sounded by one of the chief architects of the war, deputy Pentagon chief Paul Wolfowitz. Well, perhaps it wasn't entirely unconditional. For the Bushists didn't actually surrender any of the territory they conquered, or the oil resources they are swiftly and ruthlessly exploiting through a series of quiet sweetheart deals that are tying up Iraq's national wealth for years to come, or the military forces they have thrust into the line of vicious and unremitting fire from Iraqis who object to the presence of foreign troops in their "Homeland." But what they did surrender, at long last, was the pretense that their pre-invasion warmongering -- built on iron certainties and "smoking guns" and "bulletproof evidence" (Don Rumsfeld's phrase) -- ever had the slightest connection to reality. The twin towers of the Bushist case for war -- "imminent threat" and "connection to al-Qaida" -- have been crumbling for weeks, even among the bovine intellects of the Bush-whipped U.S. media, who had happily munched the thrice-chewed cud of the Regime's transparent mendacity during the long build-up to the invasion. Wolfowitz provided the final coup de grace on national television last Sunday, during an appearance on Rupert Murdoch's propaganda mill, Fox News. Wolfowitz admitted that the entire public case for war was based on nothing but "murky intelligence." Of course, his boss, Rumsfeld, had already confessed that the war brief relied on "evidence" whose most credible tidbits were five years old at the latest -- a revelation that in a normal democracy would have brought down the government and led to criminal trials all around, but which passed virtually unnoticed by the dribbling bovines as they dully regurgitated their "embedded" cud. But Wolfowitz went even further. Not only was the intelligence way past its sell-by date, it was "murky" at best -- that is to say, it was unclear, unsound, not entirely reliable, open to question, subject to doubt, impossible to confirm, of indeterminate veracity, riddled with falsities, marred by forgeries, unreliable. What's more, the White House itself confirmed that the Bushist bigwigs knew the intelligence was unreliable when they rolled out their war drums last fall. In a maladroit attempt to extricate itself from the silly sideshow over "16 words" in a Bush speech referring to a non-existent attempt by Iraq to buy non-weaponized uranium ore from Niger, last week the Bushists released a top-secret "National Intelligence Estimate" from October 2002. The intent was to show that the Regime really did have some raw -- if "murky" -- data about Iraq's alleged nuclear program. But the NIE also revealed that intelligence services were actually telling the White House that Saddam Hussein was not connected to al-Qaida and was not a threat to the United States. In fact, according to the top spooks, there was only one circumstance under which Saddam would be likely to join forces with bin Laden and launch terrorist attacks against Americans: if the Bush Regime invaded Iraq. So Wolfowitz knew, Rumsfeld knew, Colin Powell knew, Condi Rice knew, Dick Cheney knew, even President Can't-Chew-a-Pretzel knew that launching a war of aggression against Iraq would increase the terrorist danger to ordinary U.S. citizens. They knew this all along. They know it now. They just don't care. For them, the game -- sweetheart deals and he-man swagger -- is worth the candle. Unfortunately for the folks at home and the soldiers abroad, the "candle" just happens to be the lives of the American people. Thus by their own admission -- their own intelligence reports, their own butt-covering revisionism, their own natterings to Murdochian moo-cows -- the Bushists have utterly abandoned every element of the public case they made to "justify" the killing of 10,000 innocent people during the invasion and the daily deaths of more Iraqis and Americans in the brutalizing atmosphere of occupation. So why did they go to war? If their public argument for the invasion was a dungheap of known fabrications and confabulations from the beginning, then what were the real motives? We've often dealt here with the fantasies of global dominance openly propounded by Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz over the years, from their days in the first Bush Administration to their tub-thumping in various extremist pressure groups during the Clinton interregnum -- fantasies fixated on the violent death of demonized subhumans in distant lands, although couched in the bureaucratic jargon of "geopolitical considerations" and "national interests." Some of these published plans, which included predatory designs on Iraq's territory and resources, are now more than a decade old, long
[CTRL] MRC Alert: Schwarzenegger a 'Social Democrat' Republican Hollywood Can Back (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 07:30:40 -0700 From: Media Research Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MRC Alert: Schwarzenegger a 'Social Democrat' Republican Hollywood Can Back ***Media Research Center CyberAlert*** 10:30am EDT, Thursday August 7, 2003 (Vol. Eight; No. 149) The 1,555th CyberAlert. Tracking Liberal Media Bias Since 1996 NBC News Blames Global Warming for European Heat Wave Time's Tumulty: A Lot in Dean's Record That's Conservative Episcopal Battle: Conservatives Versus the Inclusive Reuters: N. Korea Hails 100 Percent Poll Support for Leader Schwarzenegger a Social Democrat Republican Hollywood Can Back Distributed to more than 14,000 subscribers by the Media Research Center, bringing political balance to the news media since 1987. The MRC is the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias. Visit the MRC on the Web: http://www.mediaresearch.org. CyberAlerts from this year are at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/cyber/welcome.asp For 2002: http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/cyber/archive02.asp Subscribe/unsubscribe information, as well as a link to the MRC donations page, are at the end of this message. When posted, this CyberAlert will be readable at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030807.asp 1) It was inevitable. Whenever someplace in the world gets hot for a few days, sooner or later a network story will blame it on global warming. NBC's Patricia Sabga won the contest on Wednesday night when she warned that scientists attribute the extreme temperatures to what's been described as a dome of hot air hovering over Europe, a summer weather pattern that may become the norm. Sean Seabrook, identified on screen as a meteorologist, then asserted: Scientists appreciate now that global warming is taking place and I think these occurrences of heat waves will become more frequent, so this may be a sign of things to come. 2) In her Time magazine cover story this week, Karen Tumulty insisted that Dean's record as Vermont Governor defies ideological labels. Appearing Wednesday morning on C-SPAN's Washington Journal, Tumulty similarly argued that he is going to be difficult to sort of paint into any particular ideological corner, but she also contended: There's a lot in his record that looks, you know, not only moderate, but even conservative. 3) As portrayed by the networks, the battle inside the Episcopal church is between conservatives and not liberals, but those interested in a more inclusive church. ABC anchor Elizabeth Vargas set up a story: Some conservative Episcopalians say homosexuality is contrary to scripture and therefore totally unacceptable. But supporters of the decision call this a step toward a more open and inclusive church. The same insistence upon labeling only one side of the debate occurred Wednesday on the morning shows. 4) Rivaling the public support Saddam Hussein earned in an election last fall, North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il received 100 percent of the vote a few days ago, Reuters relayed in a dispatch which took the election seriously. N. Korea Hails 100 Percent Poll Support for Leader, announced the headline over the August 4 story datelined from Seoul. The lead: North Korea said on Monday that polls in which voters gave leader Kim Jong-il 100 percent support showed the communist state was 'firm as a rock' in the face of economic woes and isolation over its nuclear ambitions. 5) A Republican Hollywood liberals can accept. On Thursday's Good Morning America, actress Jamie Lee Curtis declared of Arnold Schwarzenegger the morning after he announced he's running in the recall election for Governor of California: I think he will make a fantastic Governor. She soon revealed her rationale: I actually believe he's really, at his heart, even though he pretends to be a Republican, I think he's a social Democrat at heart. 1) It was inevitable. Whenever someplace in the world gets hot for a few days, sooner or later a network story will blame it on global warming and not see it as just a normal temperature variation. NBC's Patricia Sabga won the contest on Wednesday night when she warned that scientists attribute the extreme temperatures to what's been described as a dome of hot air hovering over Europe, a summer weather pattern that may become the norm. Sean Seabrook, identified on screen as a meteorologist, then asserted: Scientists appreciate now that global warming is taking place and I think these
[CTRL] Vatican cover up ?, Boys Town abuse suit, Religious Terrorism/Trauma conference
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Sex Crimes Cover-up by Vatican? Los Angeles, 8/6/03 "Secret Vatican Document Here is the secret Vatican document that instructs bishops to cover up sex crimes by priests. Below are the original Latin version and an unofficial English translation provided to CBS News. (CBS) For decades, priests in this country abused children in parish after parish while their superiors covered it all up. Now it turns out the orders for this cover up were written in Rome at the highest levels of the VaticanThe confidential Vatican document, obtained by CBS News, lays out a church policy that calls for absolute secrecy when it comes to sexual abuse by priests - anyone who speaks out could be thrown out of the church. The policy was written in 1962 by Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani. The document, once "stored in the secret archives" of the Vatican, focuses on crimes initiated as part of the confessional relationship and what it calls the "worst crime": sexual assault committed by a priest" or "attempted by him with youths of either sex or with brute animals." Bishops are instructed to pursue these cases "in the most secretive way...restrained by a perpetual silence...and everyone {including the alleged victim) ...is to observe the strictest secret, which is commonly regarded as a secret of the Holy Office...under the penalty of excommunication." Larry Drivon, a lawyer who represents alleged victims, said, "This document is significant because it's a blueprint for deception." http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/08/06/eveningnews/main566978.shtml
Fourth Boys Town abuse suit filed 6/28/03 Omaha, Nebraska (AP) -- A fourth man who lived at Boys Town, the home for wayward youths that was made famous in a 1938 Spencer Tracy film, has filed a lawsuit claiming he was sexually abused by a staff memberThe lawsuit says Sturzenegger told Boys Town officials about the incident at the time, and no action was taken against Moore. http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Central/07/28/boys.town.suit.ap/index.html
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[CTRL] September 11 - US Government accused
-Caveat Lector- http://the-news.net/cgi-bin/story.pl?title=September%2011%20-%20US%20Government%20accusededition=663 FRONT PAGE STORY - 03/08/2002 September 11 - US Government accused A Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented THE NEWS with version of the September 11th attacks that has to date failed to attract the attention of the international press. The report, compiled by an independent inquiry into the September 11th, World Trade Centre attack, warns the American public that the governments official version of events does not stand up to scrutiny. A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft. In a detailed press communiqu the inquiry stated: The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets. The report seriously questions whether or not the suspect hijackers, supposedly trained on Cessna light aircraft, could have located a target dead-on 200 miles from take off point. It further throws into doubt their ability to master the intricacies of the instrument flight rules (IFR) in the 45 minutes from take off to the point of impact. Colonel de Grand said that it would be impossible for novices to have taken control of the four aircraft and orchestrated such a terrible act requiring military precision of the highest order. A member of the inquiry team, a US Air Force officer who flew over 100 sorties during the Vietnam war, told the press conference: Those birds (commercial airliners) either had a crack fighter pilot in the left seat, or they were being manoeuvred by remote control. In evidence given to the enquiry, Captain Kent Hill (retd.) of the US Air Force, and friend of Chic Burlingame, the pilot of the plane that crashed into the Pentagon, stated that the US had on several occasions flown an unmanned aircraft, similar in size to a Boeing 737, across the Pacific from Edwards Air Force base in California to South Australia. According to Hill it had flown on a pre programmed flight path under the control of a pilot in an outside station. Hill also quoted Bob Ayling, former British Airways boss, in an interview given to the London Economist on September 20th, 2001. Ayling admitted that it was now possible to control an aircraft in flight from either the ground or in the air. This was confirmed by expert witnesses at the inquiry who testified that airliners could be controlled by electro-magnetic pulse or radio frequency instrumentation from command and control platforms based either in the air or at ground level. All members of the inquiry team agreed that even if guns were held to their heads none of them would fly a plane into a building. Their reaction would be to ditch the plane into a river or a field, thereby safeguarding the lives of those on the ground. A further question raised by the inquiry was why none of the pilots concerned had alerted ground control. It stated that all pilots are trained to punch a four-digit code into the flight controls transponder to warn ground control crews of a hijacking - but this did not happen. During the press conference Captain Hill maintained that the four airliners must have been choreographed by an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS). This system can engage several aircraft simultaneously by knocking out their on-board flight controls. He said that all the evidence points to the fact that the pilots and their crews had not taken any evasive action to resist the supposed hijackers. They had not attempted any sudden changes in flight path or nose-dive procedures - which led him to believe that they had no control over their aircraft. THE NEWS, in an attempt to further substantiate the potential veracity of these findings, spoke to an Algarve-based airline pilot, who has more than 20 years of experience in flying passenger planes, to seek his views. Captain Colin McHattie, currently flying with Cathay Pacific, agreed with the independent commissions findings. However, he explained that while it is possible to fly a plane from the ground, the installation of the necessary equipment is a time-consuming process, and needs extensive planning. THE NEWS will publish a full interview with Captain McHattie in next weeks edition. The FBI also came in for criticism for the various pieces of contradictory evidence it has published regarding the suspects. Questions are now being asked as to how incorrect information was given out regarding the ID cards of the suspects, and the seat
[CTRL] reporting about trauma, Violence/Risk of PTSD, secret airport ban, Iraqi troops
-Caveat Lector- scroll for news articles from backlash Consistency of retrospective reporting about exposure to traumatic events. Krinsley KE, Gallagher JG, Weathers FW, Kutter CJ, Kaloupek DG. J Trauma Stress 2003 Aug; 16(4):399-409. "Findings demonstrate that respondents are generally consistent in reporting traumatic events, although the majority report more events upon reevaluation. Reporting about traumatic events shows some variation as a function of the life epoch in which events occurred, whether they were directly or indirectly experienced, and the type of trauma involved." VA Boston Healthcare System and Department of Psychiatry, National Center for PTSD, Boston University School of Medicine, Boston, Massachusetts 02130, USA. Violence and Risk of PTSD, Major Depression, Substance Abuse/Dependence, and Comorbidity: Results From the National Survey of Adolescents Dean G. Kilpatrick, Kenneth J. Ruggiero, Ron Acierno, Benjamin E. Saunders, Heidi S. Resnick, and Connie L. Best Medical University of South Carolina "With a national household probability sample of 4,023 telephone-interviewed adolescents ages 12-17,this study provides prevalence, comorbidity, and risk-factor data for posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), major depressive episode (MDE), and substance abuse/dependence (SA/D). Roughly 16% of boys and 19% of girls met criteria for at least 1 diagnosis. Six-month PTSD prevalence was 3.7% for boys and 6.3% for girls, 6-month MDE prevalence was 7.4% for boys and 13.9% for girls, and 12-month SA/D prevalence was 8.2% for boys and 6.2% for girls. PTSD was more likely to be comorbid than were MDE and SA/D. Results generally support the hypothesis that exposure to interpersonal violence (i.e., physical assault, sexual assault, or witnessed violence) increases the risk of these disorders and of diagnostic comorbidity. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology Copyright 2003 by the American Psychological Association, Inc. 2003, Vol. 71, No. 4, 692-700 0022-006X/03/$12.00 DOI: 10.1037/0022-006X.71.4.692 http://www.apa.org/journals/ccp/press_releases/august_2003/ccp714692.pdf http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20030805-_1n5bomb.ht ml Officials confirm dropping firebombs on Iraqi troops Results are 'remarkably similar' to using napalm By James W. Crawley UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER August 5, 2003 American jets killed Iraqi troops with firebombs similar to the controversial napalm used in the Vietnam War in March and April as Marines battled toward Baghdad. Marine Corps fighter pilots and commanders who have returned from the war zone have confirmed dropping dozens of incendiary bombs near bridges over the Saddam Canal and the Tigris River. The explosions created massive fireballs. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=430073 US anti-war activists hit by secret airport ban By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles 03 August 2003After more than a year of complaints by some US anti-war activists that they were being unfairly targeted by airport security, Washington has admitted the existence of a list, possibly hundreds or even thousands of names long, of people it deems worthy of special scrutiny at airports. The list had been kept secret until its disclosure last week by the new US agency in charge of aviation safety, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA)The strong suspicion of such groups as the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which is suing the government to try to learn more, is that the second list has been used to target political activists who challenge the government in entirely legal ways. The TSA acknowledged the existence of the list in response to a Freedom of Information Act request concerning two anti-war activists from San Francisco who were stopped and briefly detained at the airport last autumn and told they were on an FBI no-fly list. The activists, Rebecca Gordon and Jan Adams, work for a small pacifist magazine called War Times and say they have never been arrested, let alone have criminal records. Others who have filed complaints with the ACLU include a left-wing constitutional lawyer who has been strip-searched repeatedly when travelling through US airports, and a 71-year-old nun from Milwaukee who was prevented from flying to Washington to join an anti-government protest. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always,
[CTRL] Losing Our Liberty In The Name Of Fighting Terrorism
-Caveat Lector- Losing Our Liberty In The Name Of Fighting Terrorism Tom DeWeese August 8, 2003 NewsWithViews.com America may have reached a turning point on July 22, 2003 in the battle to restore and protect civil liberties threatened by the Patriot Act. On that day the House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly to pass two amendments that restore the rule of law by denying the Justice Department the ability to sneak into private homes and peek at private records without a warrant. The House also unanimously passed an amendment to prohibit the Justice Department from forcing libraries and bookstores to turn over records of books read by their patrons. These are important victories for the forces of liberty in the battle to keep an all-powerful Big Brother government from invading every aspect of our private lives under the excuse of fighting terrorism. However, the victory may be short lived because the Bush Administration is applying pressure on Senate leadership to keep the provisions intact. As a result, the Senate may fail to support the amendments in its version of the bill, voiding the House action. To protect our liberty, Americans must understand the threat posed by the Patriot Act and take action to assure that the Senate also passes the amendments. The fact is, Americans who have blindly trusted the government to protect them from the terrorist threat are not safer. However using that excuse, American liberty is under serious threat from our own government. No one, after 9-11, can doubt that our nation and our personal safety have been attacked by Islamic fanatics bent on imposing their religion via jihad or holy war. Our government has been energized to fight the terrorism that has taken more than 3,000 lives here in America. Unlike previous conflicts, we are not dealing with a nation, but with a shadowy, global movement. As free Americans, however, we must ask some serious questions. Are the tactics implemented here necessary? Are they effective? Are our liberties protected? Is there a separate agenda being pursued? We have been told that the grandest weapon created in the war against terrorism is the Patriot Act. Its aim, according to the Justice Department, is to give federal law enforcement agencies the surveillance and investigative tools they need to prevent future terror attacks. Given the failure of agencies such as the FBI and CIA to detect and prevent 9-11 with all the laws and tools at their disposal, is it reasonable to say we need to now ignore the Constitution in order to provide more protection? The quick, emotional passage of the Patriot Act only weeks after the September 11, 2001, attacks allowed little time for scrutiny of its measures. In fact, most members of Congress did not read it before voting. As a result, it deprives Americans of protections that are the very essence of the Constitution. The Act expands the capability to obtain warrants and conduct searches without disclosing them immediately. Under the Act, law enforcement can gain access to your home and take records without you knowing they were there. A warrant must be obtained, but you may never know about it. This is one of the provisions the House is now trying to repeal. The Patriot Act changes the definition of terrorism, allowing even legitimate protestors, such as pro-life activists, to be at risk of being labeled terrorists if violence erupts at their events. Coming in October is a new provision of the Act that requires fuller identification of bank customers. In the year before 9-11 more than 150,000 Americans protested these very provisions in a scheme by the FDIC called Know Your Customer. Americans said those provisions were too invasive of their privacy, but now, special software will help firms in 25 finance-related industries to compare millions of customer records with thousands of entries on federal blacklists. Businesses such as car dealers, insurance companies, investment brokers, lenders and real estate firms will be required to file Suspicious Activity Reports to the Treasury Department. Massive government data banks, camera surveillance, and national ID cards are just the tip of the iceberg of the schemes being cooked up behind closed doors in Washington. Left unanswered is whether government is protecting us from terrorists or is government using 9-11 as a pretext to establish a massive system of government control over our lives? In February 2003 it was discovered that the Department of Justice was drafting legislation to radically expand the reach of the federal government into the lives of every American citizen. The official title of the document is the Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003. It's been given the nickname, Patriot Act #2. The bill has not yet been introduced in Congress, and reportedly only a very few key government leaders including Vice President Cheney and House Speaker Dennis Hastert have
[CTRL] 'Little doors' for flying terrorists
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33987 This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33987 Friday, August 8, 2003 'Little doors' for flying terrorists Posted: August 8, 20031:00 a.m. Eastern By Michelle Malkin ©2003WorldNetDaily.com Two questions have been left unanswered following last week's announcement by Homeland Security Department head Tom Ridge that he has temporarily suspended travel programs allowing foreigners to fly into our country without U.S. visas: Why did it take so bloody long? Why hasn't all visa-free foreign air travel been ended permanently? The visa is supposed to be our government's best method for keeping out foreign menaces. Law-enforcement agents consider it the most important national security screening mechanism. Yet, airline and tourism lobbyists, and their water-carriers in Washington, have poked dangerous holes in the system to benefit the $590 billion travel industry. Federal officials say last week's suspension of two visa-less travel programs was based on "new," "specific" and "credible" intelligence indicating that al Qaida terrorists might exploit them. But there's nothing new about the widely known lack of security surrounding these terrorist-friendly airline security loopholes. Eleven months ago, I reported on the specific use of the Transit Without a Visa program by suspected Middle Eastern terrorists. According to an internal Justice Department memo I obtained last summer, federal anti-terrorism investigators launched "Operation LAX Lounge," an investigation based on information that four individuals were using the TWOV program to smuggle illegal aliens, many of whom are Middle Eastern males, into the United States at Los Angeles International Airport. Two of the four involved in the smuggling operation were Jordanian nationals who worked as LAX contract security guards. Another was a Social Security Administration official married to one of the guards. They were convicted of collaborating to smuggle transiting passengers out of the airport and helping approximately 1,000 individuals mostly of Middle Eastern descent obtain fraudulent Social Security cards between 1998-2000. Some of the TWOV passengers let free by the Jordanians at LAX are on the federal immigration and State Department watch list of terrorist suspects. A few of these fugitive passengers were traced to New York City and arrested last July, but most remain at large. I am posting the June 25, 2002, memo along with a 19-page list of the nearly 1,000 individuals who fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers through the smuggling ring on the Internet at vdare.com. Despite uncovering this plot a year ago, homeland security officials did absolutely nothing to stop the TWOV program until last week. In the meantime, more than a million airline passengers (accounting for roughly five percent of all foreign nationals entering the country by plane) were routed to American airport hubs under the TWOV program. Citizens from some Middle East state sponsors of terror, including Iraq, Iran, Libya and Sudan, were not eligible. However, foreign nationals from several terrorist-exporting countries, including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt and Jordan, were free to participate. The program waived visa requirements for passengers who were ostensibly passing briefly through the U.S. on their way to final destinations abroad. Airlines were responsible for guarding and escorting passengers in transit, and were supposedly liable for damages when they couldn't confirm that program participants have actually departed the country. But the fines were negligible. Moreover, since the Immigration and Naturalization Service did not maintain arrival and departure records on a majority of these transiting passengers prior to the program's suspension and since the agency's interior-enforcement staff remains overwhelmed and understaffed the airlines were essentially off the hook for passengers who left the airports and never came back. Secretary Ridge, explaining the feds' year-long inaction on NBC's "Meet The Press" last week, pooh-poohed the TWOV program as "a little door." While patting himself on the back for closing the small opening temporarily, Ridge's department is now
[CTRL] How neo-cons influence the Pentagon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.friendsofliberty.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1180 How neo-cons influence the Pentagon By Jim Lobe Asia Times August 8, 2003 WASHINGTON - An ad hoc office under US Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith appears to have acted as the key base for an informal network of mostly neo-conservative political appointees that circumvented normal inter-agency channels to lead the push for war against Iraq. The Office of Special Plans (OSP), which worked alongside the Near East and South Asia (NESA) bureau in Feith's domain, was originally created by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz to review raw information collected by the official US intelligence agencies for connections between Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda. Retired intelligence officials from the State Department, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) have long charged that the two offices exaggerated and manipulated intelligence about Iraq before passing it along to the White House. But key personnel who worked in both NESA and OSP were part of a broader network of neo-conservative ideologues and activists who worked with other George W Bush political appointees scattered around the national security bureaucracy to move the country to war, according to retired Lieutenant-Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski, who was assigned to NESA from May 2002 through February 2003... The heads of NESA and OSP were Deputy Undersecretary William Luti and Abram Shulsky, respectively. Other appointees who worked with them in both offices included Michael Rubin, a Middle East specialist previously with the neo-conservative American Enterprise Institute (AEI); David Schenker, previously with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP); Michael Makovsky; an expert on neo-conservative icon Winston Churchill and the younger brother of David Makovsky, a senior WINEP fellow and former executive editor of the pro-Likud Jerusalem Post; and Chris Lehman, the brother of the John Lehman, a prominent neo-conservative who served as secretary of the navy under former president Ronald Reagan, according to Kwiatkowski. Along with Feith, all of the political appointees have in common a close identification with the views of the right-wing Likud Party in Israel. Feith, whose law partner is a spokesman for the settlement movement in Israel, has long been a fierce opponent of the Oslo peace process, while WINEP has acted as the think tank for the most powerful pro-Israel lobby in Washington, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which generally follows a Likud line. Also like Feith, several of the appointees were proteges of Richard Perle, an AEI fellow who doubled as chairman until last April of Rumsfeld's unpaid Defense Policy Board (DPB), whose members were appointed by Feith, and also had an office in the Pentagon one floor below the NESA offices. Similarly, Luti, a retired naval officer, was a protege of another DPB board member also based at AEI, former Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives Newt Gingrich. Luti in turn hired retired Colonel William Bruner, a former Gingrich staffer, and Chris Straub, a retired lieutenant-colonel, anti-abortion activist, and former staffer on the Senate Intelligence Committee. Also working for Luti was another naval officer, Yousef Aboul-Enein, whose main job was to pore over Arabic-language newspapers and CIA transcripts of radio broadcasts to find evidence of ties between al-Qaeda and Saddam that may have been overlooked by the intelligence agencies, and a DIA officer named John Trigilio. Through Feith, both offices worked closely with Perle, Gingrich and two other DPB members and major war boosters - former CIA director James Woolsey and Kenneth Adelman - in ensuring that the "intelligence" that they developed reached a wide public audience outside the bureaucracy. They also debriefed "defectors" handled by the Iraqi National Congress (INC), an opposition umbrella group headed by Ahmed Chalabi, a long-time friend of Perle, whom the intelligence agencies generally wrote off as an unreliable self-promoter. "They would draw up 'talking points' they would use and distribute to their friends," said Kwiatkowski. "But the talking points would be changed continually, not because of new intel [intelligence], but because the press was poking holes in what was in the memos." The offices fed information directly and indirectly to sympathetic media outlets, including the Rupert Murdoch-owned Weekly Standard and FoxNews Network, as well as the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal and syndicated columnists, such as Charles Krauthammer. In inter-agency discussions, Feith and the two offices communicated almost exclusively with like-minded allies in other agencies, rather than with their official counterparts, including even the DIA in the Pentagon, according to
[CTRL] Celebrity Homeless List w/my name, plus JFK pages about me...
-Caveat Lector- http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/lists/homeless.html This is the main British TCB fan page with the trenchcoat photo: http://www.geocities.com/avalard/brennan/contents.html This is a Canadian JFK page with the trenchcoat photo cropped: http://www.angelfire.com/me/carcano This is from an underground comic/zine with the trenchcoat photo cropped in bw: http://tcasey.inri.net This is from The Konformist magazine; scroll down to get the trenchcoat photo cropped with caption: sexiest JFK MK-ULTRA assassin alive: http://www.konformist.com/mkkafe/tcasey/tcasey.htm This is from a professor at the University of Rhode Island; no photo: http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/Conspiracy_theories/Brennan--Conjurella/Brennan.html This is the NEW TCB fan page, with Clinton document, but no photo: http://pw1.netcom.com/~mthorn/0brennan.htm The TCB Enigma from the enigmatic Black Lodge (Crowley enthusiasts); has 1972 photo only: http://www.irrationale.org/tcb.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/3255/tcb.html Page from Norway noting my book, VAMPIRELLA: TRANSCENDING TIME SPACE; scroll down click on my name: http://www.davestevens.com/html/ds_harri2.html __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Homosexuality by W.E.Best
-Caveat Lector- Homosexuality by W.E.Best Homosexuality is unnatural. It is a menace to society. It has not only become an accepted lifestyle but threatens the health of many. Homosexuals have come out of their closets and are becoming a political power. Furthermore, they have invaded many religious institutions, claiming there is no Scripture that says homosexuality is a sin. Thus, homosexuals and many religionists alike are blind to Biblical history and Scriptural instruction. Apart from a spiritually circumcised ear, all Scriptural teaching on the subject will be like the seed that was sown by the way side (greek text - hodon, accusative of hiodos, which means a way or road) (Matt.13:19). Among the unrighteous people who shall not inherit the kingdom of God, the inspired apostle mentioned fornicators (plural of pornos, a fornicator), idolaters (plural of eidololatres, an idolater or worshipper of idols), adulterers (plural of moichos, an adulterous person), effeminate (plural of malakos, a male who submits his body to unnatural lust), and abusers of themselves with mankind (plural of arsenokoires, one who lies with a male as a female) (I Cor. 6:9). The Greek word arsenokoites is used here and in I Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind This Greek word is a compound word composed of arsen, which means male, and koite, which means a bed. Hence, the reference is to male homosexuals. Although the Greek word arsenokoites is not used in Romans 1:26-27, homosexuals of both sexes are described: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Homosexuality is not new, but its acceptance by heterosexuals as another lifestyle is new. How can that which is unnatural become an accepted lifestyle with so many? It could not apart from a corrupted society. One must understand that Christians constitute a little flock (Luke 12:32) in a world system that is dominated by the spirit ofthe age: AND you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts ofour flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others (Eph. 2:1-3). There was a time when sodomites were restricted to certain places. For example, the Sodom of history was known for its ones set apart for unholy purposes (Gen. 19). However, in todays society, homosexuals are unrestricted. Modern day Sodom has enlarged her borders. Christians, like Abraham of old, see by faith that this amoral society is under the judgment of God. Homosexuality was not only exposed but punished in the Old Testament: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is abomination (Lev. 18:22). If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them (Lev. 20:13). (See Deut. 23:17, 18; Judges 19:2,24; I Kings 14:24; 15:12; 22:46; Isa 3:9.) The revelation of Gods wrath against sin, which includes homosexuality, is described by Paul in Romans 1:18-3:20. Gods wrath is the counterpart of His righteousness. It is not a passion but a principle. His wrath is the reaction of holy love in the presence of sin. To the nature of God, wrath against sin is as natural as love for holiness. As God cannot be holy without being jealous for His holiness, He cannot be holy without manifesting His wrath against sin. Therefore, God gave sinners over to their evil passions as punishment for their sins. Concerning sinners, three references to God gave them over are recorded in the first chapter of Romans (vv. 24, 26, 28). The Greek word for gave them over is an aorist active indicative of paradidomi, which means to give over into the power of another or to abandon one to his own sinful lusts for the manifestation of the depths of human depravity. Each of the times Paul said that God gave them over must be viewed in the light of what preceded Gods abandonment. The ones abandoned by God in verse 24 were those who: held down truth (v. 18), ignored general revelation (vv. 19, 20), devaluated God (v. 21), professed superior wisdom (v. 22), and exchanged Gods glory for man-made idols (v. 23): 1. Holding down truth in unrighteousness is a heinous crime. The Greek participle, katechonton (present active participle of katecho, which means to
[CTRL] MRC Alert: Conservatives Follow 'Like the Members of a Moose Lodge' (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 06:39:54 -0700 From: Media Research Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MRC Alert: Conservatives Follow 'Like the Members of a Moose Lodge' ***Media Research Center CyberAlert*** 9:40am EDT, Wednesday August 6, 2003 (Vol. Eight; No. 148) The 1,554th CyberAlert. Tracking Liberal Media Bias Since 1996 CNBC: On Many Issues Dean Centrist, But Lauer: Too Liberal? Hollings Stories Laud Racial Record, Skip Segregationist Work Conservatives Follow Like the Members of a Moose Lodge Distributed to more than 14,000 subscribers by the Media Research Center, bringing political balance to the news media since 1987. The MRC is the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias. Visit the MRC on the Web: http://www.mediaresearch.org. CyberAlerts from this year are at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/cyber/welcome.asp For 2002: http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/cyber/archive02.asp Subscribe/unsubscribe information, as well as a link to the MRC donations page, are at the end of this message. When posted, this CyberAlert will be readable at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030806.asp 1) Monday night on CNBC, David Shuster delivered another effort to portray Howard Dean as less than liberal. On the News with Brian Williams, Shuster contended: On many issues, Dean is a centrist. He supports the death penalty, gun ownership and balanced budgets. But Shuster's story did go on to recount how competitors Joe Lieberman and John Kerry are calling Dean too liberal to win a general election. And on Tuesday's Today, during an interview with Dean, Matt Lauer actually took him on from the right: Are you too liberal to win the general election? 2) Washington Post and New York Times stories Tuesday, on the decision of South Carolina Senator Ernest Hollings to not seek re- election, lauded the Democrat for how, in contrast to what occurred in other Southern states, as Governor he had presided over the peaceful and orderly desegregation of South Carolina's public schools. But in offering such a positive review of Hollings' record on race, the newspapers skated over his role as a dogged defender of segregation who only gave in when he realized the fight was hopeless, a favor not afforded to Southern Republicans with an unpleasant history on race. 3) Reminiscent of how a Washington Post reporter claimed in a news story that Christian Right leaders can easily generate support because their followers are largely poor, uneducated, and easy to command, Boston Globe Washington Bureau Chief Peter Canellos on Tuesday passed along a similar stereotype in a story about a new liberal legal group. Canellos opined: While conservatives answer a call to order like the members of a Moose Lodge, liberals fall to cat-fighting like contestants on a reality-TV dating show. He did at least add, or so the thinking goes. Plus, Antonin Scalia was the driving force behind the Supreme Court's decision granting George W. Bush the presidency over Al Gore. 1) Monday night on CNBC, David Shuster delivered another effort to portray Howard Dean as less than liberal. On the News with Brian Williams, Shuster contended: On many issues, Dean is a centrist. He supports the death penalty, gun ownership and balanced budgets. As if supporting massive new spending and further government intervention into peoples' lives makes you a centrist so long as you raise taxes to pay for it and, therefore, maintain a balanced budget. But Shuster's story did go on to recount how competitors Joe Lieberman and John Kerry are calling Dean too liberal to win a general election, thus showing how much of the national media are the left of the Democratic field. And on Tuesday's Today, during an interview with Dean, Matt Lauer asked Dean to respond to Lieberman and Kerry and actually took Dean on from the right, squeezing in this question at the very end of the segment: Ten seconds left. Are you too liberal to win the general election? These approaches to Dean follow recent efforts by other outlets to disguise his liberalness. The August 4 CyberAlert recounted: Before former Vermont Governor Howard Dean can be painted as a far-left ideologue, the national media are coming to his aide, penning stories about how he's not only not liberal, he's really a conservative. He remains a fiscal conservative, declared a New York Times story last Wednesday. Then on Sunday, the front page of the Washington Post
Re: [CTRL] U.S. Jew among 3 nabbed in plot to smuggle missile
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/13/2003 10:24:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A diamond merchant who said he knows Avraham well described him as a quiet, well-liked man, who was probably not aware that he was involved in an illegal deal and certainly had no idea there was any connection between the deal and radical Muslim organizations. Well, it doesn't matter anyway. He can just take off for Israel where all will be forgiven. Remember that weird murderer? Prudy www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US Troops Are Sitting Ducks - Why We Need To Get Out Of Iraq NOW
-Caveat Lector- http://www.etherzone.com/2003/raim080803.shtml US TROOPS ARE SITTING DUCKS WHY WE NEED TO GET OUT OF IRAQ - NOW By: Justin Raimondo August 7, 2003 A car pulls up in front of the Jordanian Embassy in Baghdad, in the early morning hours: the occupants exit, and leave the scene. Not too long after, a huge explosion decimates the area: at least 10 people are killed, with as many as 40 wounded. August 7, 1998 A pick-up truck laden with explosives pulls up in front of the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, at 10:38 a.m., and the detonation destroys the Embassy and kills hundreds. Almost simultaneously, the U.S. mission in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, is hit. The death toll is 224 persons: more than 5,000 are injured. Coincidence? Not likely. Those connections between Iraq and Al Qaeda we heard so much about in the period leading up to the invasion turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Osama bin Laden surely didn't have an Iraqi presence before the war, but he sure as heck does now. In this ironic sense, then, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz was perfectly correct the other day when he averred that "Iraq is the central battle in the war on terror." Seen from Osama bin Laden's perspective, it is. What Wolfowitz neglected to mention, however, is that the terrorists have gained a foothold in Iraq thanks to the U.S. and that Bin Laden owes his victories to our own policies. On account of the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq, Al Qaeda not only has a ready-made pool of potential recruits at its disposal, but is being provided with plenty of American targets close at hand. U.S. troops stationed in Iraq are sitting ducks for terrorists, easy pickings for suicide squads bent on wreaking as much deadly havoc as possible. The kind of war we are in was prefigured in the 1983 bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut. Ronald Reagan's wise response was to withdraw. How long before George W. Bush stands at similar decision? It was big news that, for two days, there were no reports of U.S. combat casualties, but this relatively long silence was punctuated by the Jordanian Embassy explosion, like a period at the end of a sentence. That, and a report of two more Americans killed, should dispel any illusions about what the U.S. is up against: the war, far from winding down, is rapidly escalating. Having lured us into the dark heart of the Middle East, Osama bin Laden and his allies have U.S. soldiers right where they want them: surrounded by a hostile populace, on the defensive, and vulnerable to the low-intensity low-tech war of attrition now being waged against them. It is an unwinnable war because it has no end point. There is no light at the end of this long, dark and perilous tunnel and no good reason to crawl in there to begin with. At a certain point, the Bush administration will be faced with a stark choice: either continue to expose U.S. troops to continuous attacks in an area that is not defensible, taking casualties until public opinion at home rebels, or avoid all those needless deaths, not to mention the expense, and bring the troops home. As the casualties mount, the clock is ticking. If Wolfowitz believes that Iraq is the central arena in the war on terrorism, then perhaps he hasn't heard the warnings about Al Qaeda preparing for another attack on the U.S. mainland. While the neocons in government and their amen corner in the media are hailing our alleged success in Iraq in bringing security to most of the country, the appalling lack of security in America's airports puts us all at serious risk. Iraq has been "liberated" but who will liberate us from the "Patriot" Act, and the further efforts of Attorney General John Ashcroft to increase the already expanded power of government agents to conduct secret searches and spy on American citizens? We will free the world and enslave ourselves. It will be a fitting price to pay for our hubris. The idea that we cannot withdraw from Iraq, that such a demand is impractical, immoral, irresponsible, or what-have-you, ought to effectively end the tiff over whether or not we have got ourselves involved in a "quagmire." We are in up to our ears. Yet there is still time to pull ourselves up, and out, before the disaster unfolds, and we ought to do so as fast as humanly possible. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always,
[CTRL] SACRAMENTO: Highway patrol officer clocks Davis motorcade at 94 mph
-Caveat Lector- No big deal. Everyone knows elected officialsare above the law!- JR http://www.tribnet.com/news/crime_safety/v-printer/story/3623715p-3658757c.html The News Tribune - Tacoma, WA Saturday, August 9, 2003 Back to Regular Story Page SACRAMENTO: Highway patrol officer clocks Davis motorcade at 94 mph Los Angeles Times A motorcade driving Gov. Gray Davis to Los Angeles was clocked going 94 mph by a highway patrol officer who pursued the cars for five miles until members of the governors' security detail identified themselves, sources said Friday. The chase occurred last Saturday on a two-lane portion of Highway 46 in San Luis Obispo County. Movie actor James Dean was killed in a crash on the same stretch in 1955. California Highway Patrol Commissioner D.O. "Spike" Helmick said he formally reprimanded a CHP sergeant in charge of a motorcade because traffic laws were broken. He said the motorcade was carrying a "dignitary" but would not elaborate.(Published 12:01AM, August 9th, 2003) General Info: Privacy Policy | User Agreement | Contact Us The Interactive Media Division of The News Tribune © 2002 Tacoma News, Inc.1950 South State Street, Tacoma, Washington 98405 253-597-8742Fax Machines: Newsroom, 253-597-8274 Advertising, 253-597-8764Send comments to the Webmaster at [EMAIL PROTECTED].- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Tacoma News, Inc. is a subsidiary of The McClatchy Company www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om promodll.dll?GetPromoEl=em%3bSG=RAND=64337 Description: Binary data
[CTRL] MRC Web News - Our Latest Analysis (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 14:31:39 -0700 From: Media Research Center IS Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MRC Web News - Our Latest Analysis [mrcgoldlogo.gif] Media Research Center America's Media Watchdog Bringing Political Balance and Responsibility to the Media MRC Web News: Our Latest Analysis August 7, 2003 Daily updates on MRC's latest analysis Todays CyberAlert: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030807.asp 1. NBC Blames Global Warming for European Heat Wave It was inevitable. Whenever someplace in the world gets hot for a few days, sooner or later a network story will blame it on global warming. NBCs Patricia Sabga won the contest on Wednesday night when she warned that scientists attribute the extreme temperatures to whats been described as a dome of hot air hovering over Europe, a summer weather pattern that may become the norm. Sean Seabrook, identified on screen as a meteorologist, then asserted: Scientists appreciate now that global warming is taking place and I think these occurrences of heat waves will become more frequent, so this may be a sign of things to come. 2. Times Tumulty: A Lot in Deans Record Thats Conservative In her Time magazine cover story this week, Karen Tumulty insisted that Dean's record as Vermont Governor defies ideological labels. Appearing Wednesday morning on C-SPANs Washington Journal, Tumulty similarly argued that he is going to be difficult to sort of paint into any particular ideological corner, but she also contended: Theres a lot in his record that looks, you know, not only moderate, but even conservative. 3. Episcopal Battle: Conservatives Versus the Inclusive As portrayed by the networks, the battle inside the Episcopal church is between conservatives and not liberals, but those interested in a more inclusive church. ABC anchor Elizabeth Vargas set up a story: Some conservative Episcopalians say homosexuality is contrary to scripture and therefore totally unacceptable. But supporters of the decision call this a step toward a more open and inclusive church. The same insistence upon labeling only one side of the debate occurred Wednesday on the morning shows. 4. Reuters: N. Korea Hails 100 Percent Poll Support for Leader Rivaling the public support Saddam Hussein earned in an election last fall, North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il received 100 percent of the vote a few days ago, Reuters relayed in a dispatch which took the election seriously. N. Korea Hails 100 Percent Poll Support for Leader, announced the headline over the August 4 story datelined from Seoul. The lead: North Korea said on Monday that polls in which voters gave leader Kim Jong-il 100 percent support showed the communist state was 'firm as a rock in the face of economic woes and isolation over its nuclear ambitions. 5. Schwarzenegger a Social Democrat Republican Hollywood Can Back A Republican Hollywood liberals can accept. On Thursdays Good Morning America, actress Jamie Lee Curtis declared of Arnold Schwarzenegger the morning after he announced hes running in the recall election for Governor of California: I think he will make a fantastic Governor. She soon revealed her rationale: I actually believe he's really, at his heart, even though he pretends to be a Republican, I think he's a social Democrat at heart. See todays entire CyberAlert at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030807.asp Advertisement www.TimesWatch.org TimesWatch.org The Running Man The Times story on Californias recall vote notes Sen. Feinstein is out, while action-hero Arnold and populist Arianna are in, and offers its readers snob appeal: Instead of talking about issues like nuclear proliferation and appropriations, as Ms. Feinstein did, Mr. Schwarzenegger made light of his decision to run . And is Arianna Huffington really a populist independent or just another left-winger? Read the entire article as posted on TimesWatch.org: http://www.timeswatch.org/articles/2003/0807.asp Advertisement TELL A FRIEND TODAY If you enjoy our daily Web news update, pass it on to your friends. Let them know they can sign up at http://www.mrc.org/cybersub.asp#webnews
Re: [CTRL] Catholic Hitler With Nazi Photos!
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- I very much doubt that one-godder-theists with their plethora of squabblesinternal andexternal, often over the most banal of theological minutia, need any help toward schism and dysfunctional 'unity'from so-called New Agers. Monotheists do a far better job of screwing each other over than any outsiders. They have shed each others blood over such profound societal issues as to whether god is one person or three. Roman Catholicism (aka Globalism), is a political totalitarian system which masquerades as areligious faith. Ithas spilt more human blood than any other pseudo religious organism. The Nazi's had simply learnt from their Roman Catholic monks, clerics and mentors - on the Jews for example: "The isolation of Jews into ghetto camps, the wearing of the yellow spot, the burning of Jewish books, and finally the burning of the people--- Hitler learned it all from the Church. However, the Church burned Jewish women and children alive, while Hitler granted them a quicker death, choking them first with gas." "The clergymen don't tell you whom to kill; they just tell you whom to hate." [Dr. Dagobert Runes, Historian, child of a Holocaust victim.] European nations were also incited by an official RC Jesuit publication, "Civilta Cattolica", which promoted anti-Semitism and encouraged exclusion of Jews from all of Europe. The Vatican willingly concurred with opinions of many of her fanatical and vociferous anti-Semitic Jesuit intellectuals. The JesuitEnrico Rosa for example, an editor at La Civilta Cattolica, whose articles had been published was regarded as an anti-modernist opinion leader who supported the traditional attitudes and values of the Vatican and, in particular, a segregationist solution to the Jewish Question. That solution has been characterized as "permissible anti-Semitism". In one article he had "conceded" or in reality he had promoted the idea that "if the Jews are on our soil, they have not come to it innocently, but rather in order to take it away from us Christians, or to plot against our faith," since ultimately "they are an enemy whose goal is to appropriate our land and deprive us of heaven." As if to deliberately goad Hitler into proving that it was possible, he had noted that a remedy such as "expulsion of Jews as foreigners" would not be possible in a generalized way, especially if it had to be applied in all civilized countries. "Indeed," he noted, "it would contravene Gods plan," which requires the preservation of Israel, even though it is dispersed, as a "concrete argument for the truth of Christianity." [Emphasis added.] Few statements could have been contrived to inflame Hitlers messianic passion and determination any more than that. After some of the truth of what Nazi Germany had done was disclosed, some 15 years after the events, Pope John XXIII was aghast at what had been done to the Jews in the name of God and Jesus. He wrote anentreaty and addressed it to the Christian world: "The mark of Cain is stamped upon our foreheads. Across the centuries, our brother Abel has lain in blood which we drew, and shed tears we caused by forgetting Thy love. Forgive us, Lord, for the curse we falsely attributed to their name as Jews." Those who did rescue the mass murderers from the hand of justice were not solely the likes of Peron and his secret police but the Roman Catholic church and its emissaries. It was the Roman Catholic church which, through its priests, churches, monasteries and forged Vatican passports, managed to foil the post-war hunt for Nazi criminals. Consider that in an allegedlymodern, scientific, intelligent society the irrational and obsequious actafront (a likely homosexual or paedophile) malecleric acting the part of a magician whomiraculously transforms wine and a potato chip wafer into the "real blood andreal flesh" of a 2,000 year dead man and then has folks communally engage ina ritual act of deistic cannibalism. It's unhelpful to the cause of truth to cover-up this institution and its clerics adoption and promulgation of Hitler and the Nazi movement by deflecting nonsensical blame upon New Age-ism which at best is a disorganised milieu of esoteric thought rather than ahierarchical and political power structure like the Vatican with agents loyal to the pope and a foreign State (i.e. Vatican City) in every sector of our society - Religious, Military, Corporate and the Intelligence Services. Zuukie's deflection of the Vatican's involvement is essentially identical to the 1998 obfuscation employed by thecurrent popeemployed to misdirect attention from the Vatican's Nazi collaboration and support, towards blame on someethereal and abstract pagan occultism, "The Shoah was the work of a thoroughly modern neo-pagan regime" claimed the Roman pontiff. The term "neo-pagan" isof course another idiom employed by various religious fundamentalists for the now quite
[CTRL] Neocon Time Travel
-Caveat Lector- http://www.lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski32.html Bush Administration Achieves Scientific Breakthrough: Time Travel Mastered! by Karen Kwiatkowski One of my husbands favorite movies is the 1980 Somewhere in Time, starring Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour. The movie isnt all that memorable, but with lovely music, settings and costume, it managed to combine desire and fantasy and time travel into solid entertainment. I dont know whether Somewhere in Time is one of George W. Bushs favorite movies. The Bush Administration does, however, appear to know something about the idea of writing scripts that mix passionate desire, fantasy and time travel, entangling truth and fiction and emotion in a way inviting mass suspension of disbelief for a shared, if short-term, national thrill. While Reeve and Seymour didnt get an Oscar, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz and Donald Rumsfeld certainly deserve one. Passionate desire was there. We have the Project for a New American Centurys letter to Bill Clinton in 1998, demanding a completion of what we started in 1991, and Richard Perles 1996 vision of a different Middle East, one where an "effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right as a means of foiling Syrias regional ambitions." (He forgot to mention all that democracy and self-determination we wanted to bring to the long suffering and oppressed Iraqi people. A simple oversight, Im sure.) After the signers of these missives were emplaced via political appointment into positions at the Pentagon and State and in the office of the Vice President, the desire was excited and inflamed by the very real and imminent possibility of the act itself. Never mind that the invasion of Iraq reminded some of our Vietnam experience, the last big American adventure in overseas guerilla warfare and domestic political puppetry. Todays comparisons of our future in Iraq to our Vietnam experience miss the point we have already exceeded Vietnam in many ways. U.S. and British military enforcement of the no-fly zone and bombs over Iraq since 1991 have cost at least a billion a year, and at twelve sustained years, exceeds the duration of our primary military involvement in Vietnam. Today, routine costs (after the spike in American expenditures required for invasion and occupation) are running at $4 billion a month, according to recent congressional testimony by senior Pentagon officials. For comparison, by 1966, the taxpayers were spending about $2 billion a month on the Vietnam war. The debates over the lack of an exit plan and the use of napalm in Vietnam versus fire-bombs in Iraq are more decorative, but ultimately less substantial commonalities. As for fantasy, weve had plenty provided by the mouthpieces of neo-conservative imperialism in the media and the administration, folks who havent known war, never wore military uniforms nor allowed their children to serve, yet seem to believe waging war using other peoples children for narrow political purposes is part of our collective American destiny. Weve had presidential and vice presidential speeches filled with the imagery of imminent U.S. destruction at the hands of the evil Saddam, via mushroom clouds courtesy of Iraqi UAVs. Weve even had a few Gulf of Tonkin-style fables broadcast, then retracted, to help motivate the public and Congress at key times. While Iraq was on a watch list of poorly led countries with potential to do harm (and had been for decades), it had never been the most serious or most imminent threat to the United States, and had limited potential to become that threat until we decided we needed to occupy it. This is old news to those who follow the news. Passion and fantasy make good entertainment. But what strikes me today is the Bush administrations discovery of the power of time travel. This goes beyond the Oscars, and is indeed Nobel Prize material! And to think our down-home president, who promised a foreign policy of humility during his campaign and in his early speeches as President, has taken a quiet vacation from Washington instead of taking full credit for his discovery! I came across the discovery while reading in the Washington Post the updated summary of last autumns National Intelligence Estimate about Iraqs real status as a nuclear, biological and chemical threat to the United States. George Tenet tells us that "We [in the intelligence community] encourage dissent and reflect it in alternative views." He even lists those views for our reading pleasure. Earlier this week, I heard a hint of the discovery in what Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz said to Laura Ingraham on national radio. In response to her question, "And when did you start to think that perhaps Iraq had something to do with it [9-11]?" Wolfowitz says disarmingly "Im not sure even now that I would say Iraq had something to do with it." Laura
[CTRL] MRC Alert: Network Vet: 'Dukakis Was No Liberal and Neither Was Mondale' (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 03:00:00 -0700 From: Media Research Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MRC Alert: Network Vet: 'Dukakis Was No Liberal and Neither Was Mondale' ***Media Research Center CyberAlert*** 6am EDT, Tuesday August 12, 2003 (Vol. Eight; No. 153) The 1,559th CyberAlert. Tracking Liberal Media Bias Since 1996 CBS ABC Describe as Controversial Bush's EPA and New Nominee Network Vet: Dukakis Was No Liberal and Neither Was Mondale Conservative Rohrabacher Endorsing Schwarzenegger Worries Time GMA Frets About Bush's Vacation, Shouldn't He Be Hard at Work? Job Opening at MRC: Assistant Archivist for Media Conversion Distributed to more than 14,000 subscribers by the Media Research Center, bringing political balance to the news media since 1987. The MRC is the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias. Visit the MRC on the Web: http://www.mediaresearch.org. CyberAlerts from this year are at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/cyber/welcome.asp For 2002: http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/cyber/archive02.asp Subscribe/unsubscribe information, as well as a link to the MRC donations page, are at the end of this message. When posted, this CyberAlert will be readable at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030812.asp 1) When reporters describe a policy or person as controversial you know they must be referring to a policy or person which upsets liberals. CBS's Dan Rather employed the term once and ABC's Charles Gibson used the term three times on Monday night in reporting on President Bush's decision to nominate Utah Governor Mike Leavitt to succeed former New Jersey Governor Christie Whitman as EPA Administrator. 2) Former NBC and CNN political reporter Ken Bode, on the Chris Matthews Show over the weekend, seriously maintained that neither Walter Mondale nor Michael Dukakis were liberals. Bode generously conceded that George McGovern was a liberal, but then insisted: Dukakis was no liberal and neither was Mondale. Both of them had several people to the left in those primaries. It was what the Republicans did to them once they got the nomination that made them seem to be liberals in both cases. 3) In their Arnold Schwarzenegger cover stories this week, Time and Newsweek each painted the movie star candidate as a political mystery, but described his social stands as either liberal in quote marks or libertarian. Newsweek also suggested his potential marital infidelity was not a mark of an inferior moral record, at least when compared to Ronald Reagan. Time's Richard Lacayo found Schwarzenegger liberal on several issues but brooded about the import of Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, one of the most conservative members of the California congressional delegation, endorsing the actor. Lacayo worried: Is that just further evidence of Arnold's gift for befriending people of all kinds, or does Rohrabacher know something the rest of us don't? 4) A few hours before President Bush traveled to Arizona and to Denver, where he announced his pick to run the EPA, Good Morning America co-host Charles Gibson, on his first day back from vacation, demanded at the top of Monday's ABC broadcast: President Bush enjoys another month-long vacation. Shouldn't he be hard at work in the White House? But maybe ABC's reporters need a vacation since they messed up basic facts. Diane Sawyer proclaimed: President Bush has now spent a full 30 straight days away from Washington. And Kate Snow suggested Bush has only been in office for a year. 5) Job opening at the MRC for the position of Assistant Archivist for Media Conversion. 1) When reporters describe a policy or person as controversial you know they must be referring to a policy or person which upsets liberals. CBS's Dan Rather employed the term once and ABC's Charles Gibson used the term three times on Monday night in reporting on President Bush's decision to nominate Utah Governor Mike Leavitt to succeed former New Jersey Governor Christie Whitman as EPA Administrator. Rather, on the August 11 CBS Evening News, claimed the entire agency had become controversial under Bush: President Bush today nominated Utah Governor Mike Leavitt to head his controversial Environmental Protection Agency. Leavitt has already been criticized by environmentalists for his land-use policies. If confirmed, Leavitt will succeed Christie Whitman who resigned in May. Over on ABC's World News Tonight, anchor Charles Gibson
[CTRL] Jakarta CCTV Proves Bush Howard Lying About Muslim Terrorists
-Caveat Lector- http://www.joevialls.co.uk/transpositions/marriott.html Update 10 August 2003 Jakarta CCTV Proves Bush Howard Lying About Muslim Terrorists The attempted western deception surrounding the bomb blast at the Jakarta Marriott has been destroyed by a handful of frames from a closed circuit television camera located inside the hotel lobby. Though the Australian Prime Minister and media have been leading a desperate charge to convince the west that a Toyota Van allegedly driven by a Jemaah Islamiah Terrorist exploded outside the hotel entrance, the CCTV photo shown above proves this to be a deliberate lie. It has been said that a picture speaks a thousand words, which is certainly true in this case. The white cloud you can see is superfine concrete dust from the reinforced lobby floor, blasted upwards when the bomb exploded in the hotel basement below. How can we be sure of this? If the bomb had been a puny Potassium Chlorate Paraffin TNT bomb as repeatedly claimed by Australian and American officials, this cloud would instead be oily-black and travelling horizontally from left to right, instantly incinerating the man seen crouching in the picture. In fact this lucky man lived, because he was outside the zone of the vertical [expanding] blast vector. For those who may still be skeptical, remember that although puny by comparison with fast 28,000 feet per second RDX high explosive, the shock wave from potassium chlorate-paraffin low explosive still travels at about 3,500 feet per second, or about three times the speed of sound. What this means is that if a Toyota Van had really exploded outside the hotel [about 100 feet away from the crouching man], the incoming horizontal shock wave would have reached him in 28.5 milliseconds, or 0.0285 of a single second. As any psychologist will tell you, all humans require nearly a second to comprehend a noise or command, and another second to physically react to it, which means that the man in our picture could not have started to crouch in reaction to the bomb blast for a minimum of 2,000 milliseconds which is seventy times as long as it would have taken for a genuine horizontal shock wave to reach him and kill him outright. It is therefore proved with 100% certainty that the awesome weapon was placed and detonated in the basement; not outside on the hotel driveway in a Toyota Van. It is not hard to guess why the Indonesians discreetly released this damning CCTV footage. Since the Israeli micro nuke was detonated at Kuta Beach in Bali during October 2002, Indonesian politicians and officials have been under intense western pressure to validate the false-flag American War on Terror, with none-too-subtle hints that if they refused to do so, Bali might happen again somewhere else. Obviously the Indonesians were not compliant enough quickly enough, and Bali just happened again in the basement of the Jakarta Marriott Hotel. At the very least, the CCTV is enough to convince all but the blind that the false-flag story relentlessly peddled by the western corporate media is completely untrue. Increasing the deception, television networks world wide enraged you with the news that this was an American-owned hotel, thus artfully inferring that America and Americans had again been attacked by alleged Muslim terrorists. This claim was also an outright lie. The Jakarta Marriott Hotel is a franchise wholly owned by a businessman in Java, Indonesia, who is also the sole employer of the 600+ Indonesian hotel staff. So just like Kuta Beach in Bali, the boot has been put into predominantly Muslim Indonesians, and will be again and again, until the besieged Indonesian Government is finally prepared to see things the way America, Israel Australia demand. It is doubtful that Al Capone himself could have run a more convincing protection racket: Do what you are told, and say what we tell you to say, or well trash the joint.. Naturally enough, economic blackmail of this magnitude does not sit well with ordinary Indonesians either, including many middle-ranking policemen, some of whom have now gone out of their way to subtly undermine the overwhelming western medias Marriott myth. Most effective of these intentional deflections was a police general cleverly stating that his officers had found the severed head of Asmal on the fifth floor of the hotel. This was actually true, and really gave the game away for anyone astute enough to be paying close attention. The hotel building is located well behind the lobby entrance, which itself has a 12 inch-thick reinforced concrete roof. So exactly what sort of explosive charge would be needed to sever Asmals head from his body, fire it upwards with such velocity that it penetrated 12 inches of reinforced concrete with consummate ease, then soared onwards and upwards like a crazed football, retaining sufficient energy to crash in through the laminated safety glass of a bedroom window, located more than 300 feet
[CTRL] Of Fags Fundis
-Caveat Lector- You might have something if "pleasure" were the sole component in a homo relationship. Unfortunately, it isn't andnumerous emotional and psychological factors come into play. Homosexuals have extremely violent behaviour patterns beyond the 'norm'. In warfare, special enthusiasm for violence, warfare, and domination was long ago demonstrated to be a quality associated with the most extreme style of butch homosexuality. Historians, in recognition of this association, mention the example of ancient Egyptian warriors, who raped enemy soldiers after defeating them in battle. So too, the existence of homosexual rape, or at least serious exploitation, was a common practice in ancient Athens. The Greeks did not expect the passive partner in a homosexual relationship to derive physical pleasure from an encounter. Suchclaims suggest a pattern of butch homosexuals dominating weaker men. Recognizing that they were the most ferocious fighters, Greek military strategists designated pairs of soldiers involved in homosexual relationships as combat teams. A 1933 Nation article also discusses the Nazis' belief that the pure Aryans were descended from the Greeks. Recalling an event in Greek military history, it adds: "The 300 who held the pass of Thermopylae were 150 pairs of lovers." Scientifically and pragmatically, homosexuality isn't something the human species and its plumbing are geared to particularity its survival.Perhaps down the track, as human science and genetics advance, technology will spawn some form of omni-sexual being and society will be convinced it is the preferred 'norm'. In such a possibleworld, perhaps both homo's and hetro's will become the minority and even Fundi's and Fags will have to unite (was that a double entendre?) to be heard amidst the omni-sexual vox populi.Self righteous religionists have always been hypocrites. Take the well-known New Testament narrative of the woman caught in adultery, a major sin whichnecessitated the death by stoning of the female so discovered. Rather than condemn the accused woman, Jesus turns the tables on her male religious accusers and denounces them as the more guilty party and the real law-breakers - the implication being that her male accusers were her adulterous lovers and sexual users.The guilty always find scapegoats. Adultery, likemost religious-sin crime, is not a crime whilst secret. Only when it reaches the public orb does it become real or as we Aussies would say, 'fair-dinkum' sin and hence punishable.The pablum, 'do not harm anyone' is a little abstract and fascicle. Many Fag Fundi's are no less intolerant than their religious counterparts. It could be argued scientifically, pragmatically and philosophically that Homo's harm the potential survival and existence of the human race. Perspectives on morality and anti-moralit vary a lot and are extremely subjective - what is perceived as harm and pain in one group passes as not hurtful and pleasurable to another. Societies in general are conservative, manipulated by totem and taboo and administered by the overseer prophets of Religion and of the State, namely priests and politicians. These rulers dissect and compartmentalise societal clusters, much like the Corporatists, so they have targeted prepacked messages and goods to sell to specific consumer audiences. Even formerly fragmented mobs will often unite in a common cause or enemy. Dictators have a way of stirring and creating societal ire to enhance or pave the road to power. Perceived and manufactured dilemmas require solutions which Autocrats have up their sleeve. In 1936 Heinrich Himmler, head of all police forces and the SS, established the Reich's Central Agency for the Struggle Against Homosexuality and Abortion. In 1943, after three years of preparation by the Ministries of the Interior and of Justice, the law entitled Protection of Marriage, Family, Motherhood called for the death penalty for extreme cases. During times of social stress, humanity usually regresses into the idea of the family. In the 1920s, the Ku Klux Klan urged the nation to adopt family values and the return to old-time religion.Similarly, Adolf Hitler launched a family-values regimen. An aspect of Hitler's methodology centred on his ideas of motherhood. Fanatics in the Ku Klux Klan, the Nazi Party, the Hezbollah, or any other intolerant organization refer to themselves as warriors often in religious terminology. As warriors, fanatics censor the thoughts of others and love to burn books and people.In the modern United States new proponents of family values continue this tradition of fear and intolerance. In Nazi Germany whilst the pink triangle was the badge which Nazis required homosexuals to wear in concentration camps other homosexuals socialised and benefited from both Hitler and his elite troupe. No hoi polloi homosexual plebeians mixing with hoity-toity
[CTRL] More On Dr. Kelly Those Electrodes
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general39/mroeon.htm More On Dr Kelly And Those Chest Electrodes >From Guy Dunphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8-8-3 Jeff, Further to your article: http://rense.com/general39/kel.htm On the matter of the ECG electrodes found on Dr Kelly's body, and official statements that these "May have been left attached by his doctor(s)". It was noticable that the media went on at some length about how these electrodes _may_ have been left on by his doctors. There are two points that can be made about this. 1. It seems strange that the official comments on the electrodes are in the vague 'may have been' form, since one would expect the investigators to have already determined what doctors Dr Kelly was seeing, and to have already spoken to them regarding the electrodes. In which case, the form would be 'the electrodes were determined to have been left in place after medical proceedures by Dr Kelly's doctor(s)." Use of the vague form indicates that no explanation for their presence has yet been found, despite no doubt serious attempts. 2. As yet, no one seems to have made the obvious comment, that one way to kill someone very quickly and effectively, leaving no detectible marks, is to apply low voltage counter-rythmic electrical pulses across the chest. Preferably via low resistance contacts such as provided by ECG electrodes, with their conductive gell. It has been noted that a cut wrist will result in a quite slow death, possibly lasting hours. It is obvious that if this was murder, the parties responsible might wish to leave the scene rather sooner than that. One could imagine a scenario: Assailant(s) approach Dr Kelly on his walk. Stun him with a taser, or other immobiliser. Apply electrodes to chest. Cut his wrist, and allow enough bleeding to be convincing. Perhaps reapplying taser as required. When it became necessary to leave the scene, while still being certain he was dead, apply heart-stopping pulses to chest electrodes. Perhaps also use same electrodes to verify his heart was stopped. Not much bleeding would occur after this. As for why the electrodes were left in place - perhaps the assailant(s) were distracted, or rushed? If there were more than one, a mix-up may have occured regarding who was supposed to remove them. I can't help thinking, that if I were planning a slow suicide by bleeding, in the countryside, and I wore glasses, I'd have left them on. It would be one's last chance to enjoy the view, after all. Guy Dunphy www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/10/2003 10:31:50 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: God inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the sovereign authority to establish right morals for right living, Gods Word is inerrant and infallible. Thats enough for me. Bet your bumper sticker says something "witty" like that too eh? Go you www.truthbeknown.com and learn more than you've every imagined. You're being had buddy. But I suspect you're happy that way. Bill. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Electronic Voting Machines Exposed
http://www.americanfreepress.net/08_01_03/Electronic_Voting/electronic_voting.html Electronic Voting Machines Exposed An independent team of computer experts has exposed how electronic voting machines are insecurely programmed and are vulnerable to hackers who can manipulate data and steal elections without leaving a trace. Exclusive to American Free Press By Christopher Bollyn A team of computer security experts has examined the software that runs one of the leading touch-screen voting systems currently being used in the United States and discovered significant security flaws. The voting system examined fell far below even the most minimal security standards. Three experts from the Information Security Institute (ISI) at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore and a fourth from Rice University in Houston analyzed the source codeprogramming that makes up software which runs a computer systemfound on a publicly avail able web site belonging to Ohio-based Diebold Election Systems Inc. (DESI). Bob Urosevich heads DESI. His brother Todd is a vice president at a competing company, Omaha-based Election Systems Software. These two companies count nearly 80 percent of the votes cast in the United States. The Hopkins group and other experts believe the source code they examined is used in Diebolds direct recording electronic (DRE) AccuVote-TS (touch screen) voting system. The AccuVote-TS system was first used on a statewide basis in Georgia on Nov. 5, 2002. Aviel D. Rubin, an associate professor of computer science at Johns Hopkins and technical director of ISI, headed the study. The groups 24-page report, Analysis of an Electronic Voting System, was released on July 23. It is available at: http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf. The most fundamental problem with such a voting system is that the entire election hinges on the correctness, robustness, and security of the software within the voting terminal, the report said. The model where individual vendors write proprietary code to run our elections appears to be unreliable, and if we do not change the process of designing our voting systems, we will have no confidence that our election results will reflect the will of the electorate. Electronic voting, the report concluded, with its inherent risks, places our very democracy at risk. The only known solution to this problem is to introduce a voter-verifiable audit trail, the report says, in which the tally of the paper ballots takes precedence over any electronic tallies. What the experts from Johns Hopkins reported verifies what AFP and The SPOTLIGHT have been saying since November 2000: Electronic voting systems are fundamentally insecure and have intrinsic flaws that can be exploited to commit massive vote fraud. A truly verifiable voting system requires paper ballots that are openly counted by hand. When there is no observable vote count done at the local polling place, there is no authentication of the tally. We found some stunning flaws, Rubin said. Dan S. Wallach, assistant professor of computer science at Rice University, added: We found a list of flaws, any one of which could ruin the integrity of the election. The glaring weakness in the system is a lack of a verifiable audit trail to double-check voting results, Rubin told Associated Press. I think they need to have paper trails, and I dont think these kinds of machines should be used for voting. Rubin told American Free Press that just as he was about to release the report on the Diebold voting system, he learned that election officials in Maryland had decided to spend $55.6 million to purchase nearly 11,000 of the Diebold machines. The Diebold paperless touch-screen voting system was first deployed on a statewide basis in Georgia for the 2002 election. The outcome in Georgia was a stunning and historical upset in which Republican candidates won both the governors mansion and a seat in the U.S. Senate. The Republican challengers in Georgia had been trailing the Democratic incumbents in both races by 5 to 11 point margins the week before the race. Although most Georgians expected incumbent Sen. Max Cleland to win, the Diebold voting system declared the dark horse Republican candidate Saxby Chambliss the winner. Chambliss won 53 percent of the vote, according to the Diebold-generated tally. A similar upset occurred in the gubernatorial race in which a Republican candidate won for the first time in 130 years. The upset in Georgia was of national significance. As Chambliss says on his web site: With our win on Nov. 5, we returned control of the U.S. Senate to Republicans and gave President Bush the tools he needs to implement his agenda for America. Because the Diebold system is paperless and the counting of the votes is done out of sight, within a networked computer system, there is no way for any voter to know if his or her vote was counted correctly. The experts analysis of a voting machine discovered a host of security flaws in the
Re: [CTRL] Sodomites
-Caveat Lector- What about heterosexual sodomy? Or don't you know that straight couples practice sodomy, too? June IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Click Here
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
Title: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. -Caveat Lector- Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. JR - Original Message - From: Nessie SFBG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion -Caveat Lector- Much of the Old Testament merely records what men did in violation of God's laws. Much of the Old Testament merely records what men did in *obedience* to God's laws. See: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/atrocity.shtml (snip) Bible AtrocitiesCompiled by Donald MorganNOTE: These lists are meant to identify possible problems in the Bible, especially problems which are inherent in a literalist or fundamentalist interpretation. Some of the selections may be resolvable on certain interpretations--after all, almost any problem can be eliminated with suitable rationalizations--but it is the reader's obligation to test this possibility and to decide whether it really makes appropriate sense to do this. To help readers in this task, these lists are aimed at presenting examples where problems may exist given certain allowable (but not always obligatory) assumptions. It should be kept in mind that a perfect and omnipotent God could, should, and likely would see to it that such problems did not exist in a book which s/he had inspired.Note: In the Bible, words having to do with killing significantly outnumber words having to do with love.GE 3:1-7, 22-24 God allows Adam and Eve to be deceived by the Serpent (the craftiest of all of God's wild creatures). They eat of the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil," thereby incurring death for themselves and all of mankind for ever after. God prevents them from regaining eternal life, by placing a guard around the "Tree of Eternal Life." (Note: God could have done the same for the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" in the first place and would thereby have prevented the Fall of man, the necessity for Salvation, the Crucifixion of Jesus, etc.)GE 4:2-8 God's arbitrary preference of Abel's offering to that of Cain's provokes Cain to commit the first biblically recorded murder and kill his brother Abel.GE 34:13-29 The Israelites kill Hamor, his son, and all the men of their village, taking as plunder their wealth, cattle, wives and children.GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah's family and thereby makes himself the greatest mass murderer in history.GE 19:26 God personally sees to it that Lot's wife is turned to a pillar of salt (for having looked behind her while fleeing the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah).GE 38:9 "... whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked ..., so the Lord put him to death."EX 2:12 Moses murders an Egyptian.EX 7:1, 14, 9:14-16, 10:1-2, 11:7 The purpose of the devastation that God brings to the Egyptians is as follows:to show that he is Lord;to show that there is none like him in all the earth;to show his great power;to cause his name to be declared throughout the earth;to give the Israelites something to talk about with their children;to show that he makes a distinction between Israel and Egypt.EX 9:22-25 A plague of hail from the Lord strikes down everything in the fields of Egypt both man and beast except in Goshen where the Israelites reside.EX 12:29 The Lord kills all the first-born in the land of Egypt.EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows down Amalek and his people.EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to death with no punishment for the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die too quickly.EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay 3000 men.LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before your sword." LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children."LE 26:29, DT 28:53, JE 19:9, EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends.LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An example is given in JG 11:30-39)NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great plague.NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven days because she and Aaron had spoken against Moses.NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at the Lord's command.NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- Suggestion: Read the entire first chapter of the book of Romans. Not only does the Word specifically condemn homosexuality/lesbianism but it also condemns those who accept it, thus approve of it as a way of life. God inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the sovereign authority to establish right morals for right living, Gods Word is inerrant and infallible. Thats enough for me. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Rarey Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 8:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion In II Timothy 3:16 we are told all scripture (Old Testament) is breathed of God (comes from God). Since Jesus is God (John 1.1 In the beginning was the Word and theWord was with God and the Word was God. - John 1:14 The word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.)he is the author of the condemnations of homosexuality in the Old Testament. This should answer your question. If it doesn't it must be because you don't believe the Bible. If so, why bother asking for chapter andverse? JR - Original Message - From: Nessie SFBG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion -Caveat Lector- The wrongs you list are perversions of the gospel preached by Jesus Where exactly did Jesus condemn homosexuality? Be specific. Cite the chapter and verse. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceâ??not soap-boxingâ??please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'â??with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâ??is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Om
Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- How does one unsubscribe to this mailer? Ive tried and it gets nowhere. Your message is being returned to you unprocessed because no command was found in the message body. LISTSERV expects commands in the body of the message, rather than in the message subject, because some users have no control over the contents of the Subject: field on outgoing messages. UnsubscribeMissing parameter - specify the name of a list, or * (without the quotes)for all lists on this server. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War? http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html August 11, 2003 A POLITICALLY CORRECT WAR? Condi Rice says youre a 'racist' if you dont support the 'liberation' of Iraq Lying propaganda continues to gush from the Bush administration, like vomit from a drunk. The latest comes courtesy of Condoleezza Rice, the President's national security chief and a woman who, in any other circumstances, would have been out on her ear, but in this clueless administration maintains a highly visible role. Speaking before the National Association of Black Journalists, her latest outrage is accusing critics of the President's war policy of racism. Invoking the history of the civil rights movement, and the 1963 bombing of a black church in Birmingham, Alabama, Condi's rendition of Al Sharpton's race-baiting act was even better than the original: Knowing what we know about the difficulties of our own history, let us always be humble in singing freedom's praises. But let our voice not waver in speaking out on the side of people seeking freedom. And let us never indulge the condescending voices who allege that some people are not interested in freedom or aren't ready for freedom's responsibilities. That view was wrong in 1963 in Birmingham and it is wrong in 2003 in Baghdad. Forget Niger uranium, Iraq's nonexistent role in 9/11, and those missing WMD this may be the biggest lie of all. Condi's fanciful fib, weirdly inverting history, must have provoked more than a few guffaws. In the Condi Rice school of revisionist history, the antiwar movement of the 1960s did not come out of the civil rights movement, and, furthermore, the segregationists and their hero, George Wallace, didn't disdain the protestors as Commie-pinko-hippie-queers. The condescending saviors of the Bush administration couldn't wait for the Iraqi people to seek and win their own freedom. Now they stand guard over a conquered province, delaying free elections until the Iraqis are ready. Washington rightly fears a truly democratic election will sweep radical Islamists into power, inaugurating a Shi'ite Muslim republic in the southern region of the country and leading to the break-up of Iraq along ethnic lines. American blacks are in no way analogous to Iraqis: after all, the former are, in spite of George Wallace's heirs and the Africanist rantings of black nationalists, Americans, while the latter are foreigners. One wonders why this even has to be pointed out. Iraqis didn't fight in the American Revolution, but blacks did, as schoolchildren are ceaselessly reminded. The Iraqis didn't have a Jefferson, or a George Washington: their Founders were in the British Foreign Office, ours rose up in rebellion against that Office and established the first enduring constitutional republic on earth. Not that this would much impress Ms. Rice, who clearly has it in for the Founders, as she makes clear in her remarks: But Democracy is not easy. Our own histories should remind us that the union of democratic principle and practice is always a work in progress. When the Founding Fathers said We the People, they did not mean us. Our ancestors were considered three-fifths of a person. America has made great strides to overcome its birth defects but the struggle has been long and the cost has been high. The lies just keep coming. That the historic compromise reached by the Constitutional Convention was motivated by contempt for blacks is another of Ms. Rice's revisionist bon mots. However, this left-wing fairy tale is not only a myth, long a staple of anti-Americana, it is certainly an odd way for an ostensibly conservative administration to justify its foreign policy. Ms. Rice no doubt sincerely believes that the Constitutional Convention was the moral equivalent of a cross-burning, but history tells a different story. In the face of a threat by the Southern states to go off on their own, the convention took no position on the slavery question, neither recognizing it nor forbidding it. As Garet Garrett pointed out in The American Story (1956): The Constitutional Convention took refuge in the hopeful position that in time slavery would disappear of itself, provided it were left to states. In that mood the Convention performed the
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- It is also written in the bible that women are unclean and should cover their heads. However, these are words of men. Everything in the Bible cannot be taken literally. Sometimes people say stupid stuff and someone writes it down. Does this mean your God has ordained this? I hope not. People are too flakey to be spokesmen for God, not that there actually is one. I challenge anyone here to prove there is God. You cannot because it does not exist. If the ET who called himself God did not like gays, it's likely because he wanted 'his people' to be fruitful and multiply. Notice he did not say be like fruit and reproduce thyself. (Sorry. ;-) Steve On 10 Aug 2003 at 20:29, Bob Cooper wrote: Suggestion: Read the entire first chapter of the book of Romans. Not only does the Word specifically condemn homosexuality/lesbianism but it also condemns those who accept it, thus approve of it as a way of life. God inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the sovereign authority to establish right morals for right living, Gods Word is inerrant and infallible. Thats enough for me. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Deadly and Dangerous Homosexual Lifestyle
-Caveat Lector- Anything But Gay: The Deadly and Dangerous Homosexual Lifestyle Because of the bias manner in which homosexuality is portrayed by the media, the general public has little understanding of the true nature of the homosexual lifestyle. Most have been deceived into believing the average homosexual lives a perfectly normal and healthy way of life. To suggest otherwise is considered hateful and homophobic. But the facts paint a dark picture of homosexuality much different from the clean, harmless image most people see in the positive portrayals of homosexuals on television and in movies. The silence of the media has hidden the seedy, dangerous and disgusting behavior typical of homosexuals which would stagger the minds of decent people. Just like the rest of us? Gays behave just like everybody else except for the minor difference that they happen to be attracted to people of the same-sex, right? Wrong. Although there certainly are exceptions, the general rule is that homosexuals pursue a sexual perversity which defies imagination. The impression we are given is that homosexuals are involved in committed relationships comparable to typical heterosexual relationships, but the truth is the homosexual lifestyle is, by its very nature, extremely promiscuous. According to surveys of homosexual men, the average homosexual may easily have thousands of sexual partners in his lifetime. According to Jeffrey Satinover: A 1981 study revealed that only 2 percent of homosexuals were monogamous or semi-monogamous-generously defined as ten or fewer lifetime partners. And a 1978 study found that 43 percent of male homosexuals estimated having sex with five hundred or more different partners and 28 percent with a thousand or more different partners. Seventy-nine percent said that more than half of these partners were strangers and 70 percent said that more than half were men with whom they had sex only once. Of gay men and anonymous sex, George Grant and Mark A. Horne point out in their book, Legislating Immorality: Worse, many-if not most-of all homosexual encounters are anonymous Homosexual bathhouses-or as they are sometimes called, without a hint of irony, health clubs-cater specifically to this perverse hankering for anonymity. Is it any wonder that Paul calls this behavior vile and unseemly? Reaping the fruits of sowing perversion A tree is known by its fruit (Mat. 12:33). What, then, are the fruits of homosexual behavior? To encourage young people to embrace homosexuality as normal and to remove from their minds any possible inhibitions toward it, pro-homosexual propaganda in public school courses and special programs leads them to believe that homosexuality is merely an alternative lifestyle, as healthy as heterosexuality. The awful truth that homosexuals want to bury beneath a façade of normalcy is that homosexuality is destructive to health and hygiene. In Romans Paul speaks of homosexuals receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due (Rom. 1:27), suggesting that there are grave consequences to perverting the divine order. There is undeniable evidence to support this point.While we often think of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS) when considering health issues related to homosexuality, most people are not aware that AIDS is but one of many diseases afflicting homosexuals. David Smith, M.D., gave the following statistics concerning the medical consequences of homosexual behavior: A survey several years ago revealed that seventy-eight percent of homosexuals have been affected at least once by a sexually transmitted disease Although the percentage of homosexuals in the United States is less than five percent, they are responsible for half of the cases of gonorrhea of the throat and of intestinal infections. Major outbreaks of ambiasis and hepatitis A infections in San Francisco and Minneapolis have been associated with diseased homosexual food handlers in public restaurants. There is a twenty to fifty fold greater rate of hepatitis B among male homosexuals and a much higher rate of hepatitis A [than heterosexuals]; between one-half to three-fourths of homosexual men have had hepatitis B. If you look at rates of chronic or recurrent infections with herpes virus, CMV, and hepatitis B, you would find them in ninety percent of homosexually active men.San Francisco passed gay rights laws and saw a rate of increase of twenty-two times over the national average of venereal disease over the first ten years. AIDS: Gay disease or everyones problem? It is politically incorrect to label AIDS as a gay disease. In the 1980s and 90s a massive propa-ganda campaign was implemented to convince the public that all of us-heterosexuals and homosexuals alike-were at equal risk of contracting the disease. It is true that there are many innocent victims of the disease who are not homosexual-especially in Africa,
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- Of course belief in God is a matter of faith, not scientific evidence, just like belief in evolution. Much of the Old Testament merely records what men did in violation of God's laws. JR - Original Message - From: Steve Wingate To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion -Caveat Lector-It is also written in the bible that women are unclean and should cover their heads.However, these are words of men. Everything in the Bible cannot be taken literally.Sometimes people say stupid stuff and someone writes it down. Does this mean your God hasordained this? I hope not. People are too flakey to be spokesmen for God, not that thereactually is one. I challenge anyone here to prove there is God. You cannot because itdoes not exist.If the ET who called himself God did not like gays, it's likely because he wanted 'hispeople' to be fruitful and multiply. Notice he did not say be like fruit and reproducethyself. (Sorry. ;-)SteveOn 10 Aug 2003 at 20:29, Bob Cooper wrote: Suggestion: Read the entire first chapter of the book of Romans. Not only does the Word specifically condemn homosexuality/lesbianism but it also condemns those who "accept" it, thus approve of it as a way of life. God inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the sovereign authority to establish "right" morals for "right" living, God's Word is inerrant and infallible. That's enough for me.--ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILEShttp://www.anomalous-images.comwww.ctrl.orgDECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substanceâ?"not soap-boxingâ?"please! These aresordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'â?"with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright fraudsâ?"is used politically by different groups withmajor and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, andalways suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives nocredence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="">ctrlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times
-Caveat Lector- At 07:10 PM 8/13/03 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- How come so many animals do it...?? The biblical answer is simple. At the fall of man, all creation also fell. Including animals. According to scripture, during the Kingdom, after the restoration of all things, all animals and man will live in harmony. Animals will no longer kill and eat each other. Just because animals sometimes engage in queer behavior doesn't mean it's normal, although if you have a worldly view that rejects God then that is the only conclusion available to you. However, the biblical view rejects that and the only conclusion is that it is just another manifestation of the corruption, decay, and entropy of the fall of creation. The wordly view sees things like creatures killing or harming other creatures, queer behavior, and death as normal. The scriptures say that all those things are a curse and not normal. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. -Romans 8:19-22 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. -Isaiah 11:6-9 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD. -Isaiah 65:25 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. -Corinthians I 15:24 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sharon Indictable
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general40/pm.htm Enough Proof Exists To Indict PM Sharon By Baruch Kra Haaretz Correspondent 8-11-3 Two investigations being conducted simultaneously against Prime Minister Ariel Sharon stand at varying stages of evidence collection, but according to some interpretations, charges could already be filed against individuals involved in both cases - including the prime minister. Unlike the investigation into the loan received from South African-based businessman Cyril Kern, almost all relevant evidence has been gathered in the "Green Island" case. The most important piece of evidence is the contract between the prime minister's son, Gilad Sharon, and contractor David Appel. To date, none of the individuals questioned provided a suitable explanation as to why Appel, an experienced contractor, hired Gilad Sharon, at the time a 30-year-old economist, and was willing to pay him hundreds of thousands of dollars for consultations on his business plans in Greece. This followed the fact that Sharon's Sycamore Ranch company had not provided such consultation services in the past, and his company specialized in agriculture. Police investigators are also in possession of tapes with information on relations between now- Industry and Trade Minister Ehud Olmert (who was Jerusalem mayor at the time) and Appel, as well as between Ariel Sharon and Appel during the 1999 Likud primaries. So investigators in fact have all of the evidence. State Prosecutor Edna Arbel and Attorney General Elyakim Rubinstein must now decide how to construe the evidence and conclude if it proves that a bribery deal was carried out between Appel and Olmert. In the investigation of the Kern loan, investigators are still trying to gather additional evidence, and are waiting for an Austrian court to allow judicial inquiries. Inquiries in Austria may reveal who had vested interest in the case, and who could have stood behind the $1.5 million transfer from Kern's bank account in Austria to Gilad Sharon's account in Tel Aviv. The documents that the police requested that Gilad Sharon transfer to investigators, if they have not yet been destroyed, may shed light on the case. Based on certain interpretations, police may have enough evidence to present indictments against various individuals involved in the case. According to the law, if a large sum of money is given to a public official, especially if he is prime minister, he or she must provide judicial authorities with an explanation and clarify the purpose of the monetary gift (as was done in the case of gifts given to former president Ezer Weitzman from his friend, French businessman Edward Sarrousi). The police and state prosecution have not accepted the prime minister's line of defense, according to which he had no connection to the aforementioned monetary transactions. It is clear to the judicial authorities that the money was used to return illegal loans Sharon received from donors during the 1999 primaries. Based on this assumption, police can try the prime minister on lesser charges in the case, including a violation of the Parties Funding Law and the Parties Law. Investigators have concrete evidence that, contrary to his testimony and statements made to the attorney general, the prime minister knew about an American shell company called Annex Research Ltd., which transferred money to his campaign fund. It is also clear that Ariel Sharon signed a number of checks that were transferred to money lenders. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Father of dead soldier claims Army coverup
-Caveat Lector- http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030807-043512-3755r Father of dead soldier claims Army coverup By Mark Benjamin Investigations Editor Published 8/7/2003 6:13 PM WASHINGTON, Aug. 7 (UPI) -- The father of a soldier who died of pneumonia this spring said Thursday the Army has excluded her death from its investigation of deadly pneumonia because it wants to cover up vaccine side effects. "The government is covering this up and it is a dog-gone shame," said Moses Lacy, whose daughter, Army Spc. Rachael Lacy, died April 4 at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., after getting pneumonia. Lacy said his daughter "was a healthy young woman" but got ill within days of getting anthrax and smallpox vaccinations on March 2 in preparation for deployment to the Persian Gulf. She was too ill to ever be deployed. The Army said 100 soldiers have gotten pneumonia in Iraq and southwestern Asia, two of those have died and another 13 have had to be put on respirators. "The common denominator is smallpox and anthrax vaccinations," Moses Lacy said in a telephone interview from his home in Lynwood, Ill. "These young people have given their lives to the military and they are getting a raw deal. The Department of Defense is closing their eyes." The Army did not mention vaccines on Tuesday when it held a press conference on the pneumonia investigation. Officials said the pneumonia does not appear to be contagious, and are close to ruling out biological or chemical warfare, SARS and Legionnaire's disease. Col. Robert DeFraites of the Army Surgeon General's office said at the press conference that the Pentagon launched the investigation because of the severity of the pneumonia. "Are we seeing more cases in general than we might expect? Despite the harsh environment, the answer is no ... But again, we are still concerned about these severe ones." DeFraites told UPI on Wednesday that the Pentagon would look into whether vaccines, among other factors, might have triggered the pneumonia cases. "Among all of the possible causes or contributing factors, we are looking at the immunizations that the soldiers received as well," DeFraites said. "It is premature to say that there is any relationship at all." The Army said it is excluding Lacy's death from its investigation because Lacy never made it to Iraq or southwestern Asia where it says the cases are clustered. "She was never deployed to Iraq," Army Surgeon General spokeswoman Virginia Stephanakis told UPI Thursday. She said the military is participating in an investigation of Lacy's death separate from the pneumonia investigation. "It is a whole different issue." Moses Lacy disagreed. "She should be on that list (of deaths to investigate) because my daughter's first symptoms were pneumonia," Lacy said. "It happened immediately" after the vaccines, Moses said. "You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out. If I were a medical official it would be the first thing I would look into." Steve Robinson, executive director of the National Gulf War Resource Center, told UPI, "We should include in this study any illnesses or deaths that appear to be pneumonia-related that occurred in theater or out of theater." Dr. Eric Pfeifer, the Minnesota coroner who performed Lacy's autopsy, told the Army Times that the smallpox and anthrax vaccines "may have" contributed to Lacy's death. "It's just very suspicious in my mind...that she's healthy, gets the vaccinations and then dies a couple weeks later." He listed "post-vaccine" problems on the death certificate. Other members of the armed forces not in the Pentagon investigation say the anthrax vaccine has made them very sick with pneumonia-like symptoms. Michael Girard, a Senior Airman at Patrick Air Force Base in Cocoa Beach, Fla., got his second anthrax shot on March 4. He developed flu-like symptoms - runny nose and a "heavy chest" - starting March 6 and by March 12 developed a rash on his left arm where he had gotten the shot. "Then basically it started attacking my body, section by section," Girard said. He said he has since suffered bouts of vomiting up blood, pain in his feet that made them turn blue, chest pain, constipation, pain in his legs, headaches, stomach aches and extremely high blood pressure. In one weekend he went to the emergency room four times. He says he suffers from insomnia and fatigue. At one point, he developed a horrible cough. "They did do a chest X-ray because they thought it might be pneumonia. A nurse told me that it was, but a doctor came in and said that it was not." Girard said Air Force doctors first suspected the anthrax vaccine caused his problems, but since have backed away from that diagnosis. "Everything that has been associated with this ever since I got sick has been like a coverup," Girard said. He said he "was perfectly 100 percent healthy" before getting the vaccine. "I was in the gym for an hour to two hours per day. I was running. I was energetic." He
Re: [CTRL] [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Mel is a bloke who not only knows how to juggle his balls, (as his profession was once known), but also knows how to exploit, promote and show them offso as to get lots of bums on theatre seats and lots of Dollar$ in his ever-bourgeoning bank account! The Gospel accounts indicate that some of the Jews were responsible for plotting the murder of Jesus just as much as they state that the Romans were Christs final executioners. However, at the end of the day, central to the NT and Gospel narrative is not who plotted or done the physical deed, but that Jesus bore the 'sins of the whole world' and that not one individual present andpast living or dead can escape that judgement. It is the most absurd and idiotic thing to call flics and tales about Jesus anti-Semitic becausethey are tales written and told for, byand about Jews. If you want anti-Semitic literature, the finest you will ever find is the Hebrew Old Testament itself. You can't tell me that's a story of a deity happy witha nation ofso-called "chosen people". Dave. - Original Message -From: "Party of Citizens" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:01 AMSubject: Re: [CTRL] [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Mel Gibson's Jesus /Jews as Christ-killers (fwd) -Caveat Lector- * http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens ** -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 13:56:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers The Jews are probably correct as you note below about "Christians" which is why I am not one. OTOH, what kind of "Christian" sides with the Jewish claim to be the "lost sheep of Israel" sought by Jesus Christ? NONE of those Jews to whom you refer are PRO- the teachings of Jesus Christ. All are ANTI- the teachings of Jesus Christ, ie all are among the 'antichrists' in I John 2:22. Show us where Jesus Christ says, "Love MY enemies". He only says, "Love YOUR enemies". POC (Learned Elders of Zion) * http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens ** On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bob S. wrote: I love the controversy over Mel Gibson's Jesus movie, THE PASSION! (See article below my rant.) The Jews say that Gibson portrays Jews as Christ-killers. Jews don't say that Jewish movies, comic books, etc. often ridicule Christianity insult the Christian faith. Ha ha. For example Mel Brooks' BLAZING SADDLES portrays a Christian congregation as a bunch of morons Jew Gene Wilder analyzes Christian congregation thusly, "these are common-clave people ... You know, MORONS." Jewish (Vertigo/DC - COHANIM president editor-in-chief Jeanette Kahn) comic book series PREACHER had Grail cult kidnapping children of Jesus Mary Magdalene, incestuously interbredding them for 2000 years for second coming of idiot descendant offspring of Jesus! Futurama comic book story CHRISTMAS issue had Futurama crew doing zombie Jesus play. Get it? Christians believe that Jesus rose from dead, so Jews say Jesus must be zombie. Zombie Jesus libel was also on tv series in episode likely written by goddamn Jew. Mel Gibson is member of reactionary Catholic sect which rejects Vatican II. Before Vatican II Catholic Church called Jews "Christ- killers." Since Vatican II, Catholic Church characterized Jews as "perfidious", only stopped calling Jews "perfidious" few years ago. http://www.thesoutherncross.co.za/church%20and%20judaism.htm http://www.americancatholic.org/messenger/jul2000/feature2_sidebara.a sp quoting 1959-Pope John XXIII orders that the reference to "perfidious Jews" be removed from the Good Friday liturgy. These prayers were completely revised after Vatican II. Between 1959 and 1963, Pope John XXIII meets with individual Jewish leaders and with Jewish groups. Pope Paul VI continues this practice. quoting http://www.volasia.com/forum/topicDisplay.php?topicID=288 http://www.catholicism.org/News/rabbigibson.htmBob is neither Catholic nor Jew. Bob is not religious Christian but is ethnic Christian. Bob is agnostic who HATES Zionism double-standard where is OK for Jews to insult Christians but isn't OK for Christians to insult Jews. Mel Gibson's Jesus / Jews as Christ-killers http://angrywhitefemale.net/mel-gibson.html The Passion, a movie being directed by Mel Gibson, will be an accurate historical account of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Accurate is the operative word here. The Jews have spent many moons in Hollywood re-writing White history for the stupid goyim, and have managed to make a huge profit from the goyim's historical ignorance and fear of the anti-Semite label. So, the words "accurate depiction of the crucifixion of Christ"
[CTRL] CIA warned administration of postwar guerrilla peril
-Caveat Lector- http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/222/nation/CIA_warned_administration_of_postwar_guerrilla_peril+.shtml THE INTELLIGENCE CIA warned administration of postwar guerrilla peril Officials defend rebuilding plan By Bryan Bender, Globe Correspondent, 8/10/2003 ASHINGTON - In February, the CIA gave a formal briefing to the National Security Council, including Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney, and President Bush himself: ''A quick military victory in Iraq will likely be followed by armed resistance from remnants of the Ba'ath Party and Fedayeen Saddam irregulars.'' The administration seemed unmoved. In the weeks leading up to the Iraq war, top Bush administration officials made glowing predictions that Iraqis would welcome US troops with open arms, while behind the scenes they did little to prepare for a guerrilla war. ''My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators,'' Cheney said on NBC's ''Meet the Press'' on March 16. ''I've talked with a lot of Iraqis in the last several months myself, had them to the White House.'' ''I imagine they will be welcomed,'' Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz, a key architect of the White House's Iraq strategy, said in an interview April 3, two weeks into the war, with CBS's ''60 Minutes II.'' ''I think there's every reason to think that huge numbers of the Iraqi population are going to welcome these people ... provided we don't overstay our welcome, provided we mean what we say about handing things back over to the Iraqis,'' Wolfowitz said. The February report was not the only warning Bush received that a guerrilla war was in the offing. According to US intelligence officials who compiled or contributed to the reports, and provided excerpts to the Globe, on multiple occasions in the months before the war the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency warned that fighting would probably continue after the formal war. The assessments went so far as to suggest that guerrilla tactics could frustrate reconstruction efforts. But intelligence officials, former military officers, and national security specialists say the administration instead clung to the optimistic predictions of the Iraqi National Congress, an exile group headed by Ahmed Chalabi, who left Iraq in 1958. Chalabi, who is now a member of Iraq's US-backed Governing Council, is a close Rumsfeld and Cheney ally who had the ears of top administration officials in the months before the war. ''I think there was a general sense of how the postconflict phase would go, and it didn't work out that way,'' said a former deputy defense secretary, John J. Hamre, who recently returned from a Pentagon fact-finding mission to Iraq. ''That general sense probably caused them to pass over intelligence assessments that differed from expectations.'' ''The obvious critique is that they ignored this beforehand because it didn't fit their expectations,'' Hamre said. But he cautioned against definitive conclusions about the warnings. ''The great problem I see these days is a tendency to take a single report or document and use it as proof to make a point,'' he said. ''When it comes to the world of intelligence, you have to take a much wider sampling of many inputs and make a reasoned judgment.'' The National Security Council did not respond to a request for a comment. Last month, Wolfowitz defended the administration's planning for the aftermath of the war. ''There's been a lot of talk that there was no plan,'' he said. ''There was a plan, but as any military officer can tell you, no plan survives first contact with reality. Inevitably, some of our assumptions turned out to be wrong.'' Wolfowitz acknowledged that the administration had expected Iraqi military units to defect. ''No army units, at least none of any significant size, came over to our side so that we could use them as Iraqi forces with us today,'' he said. ''Second, the police turned out to require a massive overhaul. Third, and worst of all, it was difficult to imagine before the war that the criminal gang of sadists and gangsters who have run Iraq for 35 years would continue fighting.'' Yet the CIA in particular forewarned policymakers of some of the problems likely to arise, according to one intelligence official who asked not to be identified. The reports, for example, predicted that armed insurgents would attack coalition forces. One prewar report, he said, forecast that after the war ''things would get worse before they get better'' and that there would be a high likelihood of ''backsliding'' - progress followed by setbacks. In the early days of the war, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon's internal spy agency, warned that Ba'ath Party loyalists - many of whom escaped the major invasion - were showing signs of regrouping, said an intelligence official who asked not to be identified. ''We wrote in early April that we were picking up hints of guerrilla forces gearing up,'' the official
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 05:56:03PM -0400 Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 05:56:03PM -0400, iNFoWaRZ wrote: I see you have swallowed the whole queer propaganda lie, hook, line, and sinker. The purported facts in your post are total BS. In other words, they are lies. The anonymous iNFoWaRZ has not given any evidence to disprove anything that I wrote. As are the opinions in your post although you are entitled to that. But your post shows who and what you are. You condemn morality and virtue I totally support morality and virtue, which consist of helping people (and other living things) and not harming them. The anonymous iNFoWaRZ has not given any evidence that homosexuality (when performed with the usual precautions necessary for any sexual activity) harms anyone. and praise corruptness Corruptness basically means being of such a nature as to do harm, and homosexuality does not do harm, so his statement is false. and perversion. Perversion simply means a sexual or other act of which the speaker disapproves. One person's perversion is another person's snuggly love. At the same time you infer bigotry, though a twisted definition of the same, on those that oppose this Bigotry in this context means the unjustified hatred of innocent people -- those who are doing no harm. That is exactly what these anti-gay messages express. criminal Many harmless behaviors have been legislated to be considered criminal. Sometimes this legislation has been rescinded. Consensual adult sex, the publication and broadcast of sexual material, the growing, manufacture, sale, and use of non-injurious herbs and drugs, and many other non-harmful acts have been declared criminal. The label criminal has no reliable correlation with morality (i.e., not doing harm). unnatural behavior, Homosexual behavior is widespread in all human cultures, and in many other animal species. It is definitely natural. you have managed to expose yourself thoroughly as an anti-religious bigot, of the correct definition. I can substantiate all the statements I made about fundamentalist Judaeo-Christian religions, with quotes from the Bible and historical facts. If you beleive you are doing something good, you are wrong. What good can come from tearing down the moral foundations of a nation? Putting forth a sane, pro-human definition of morality -- Don't harm people; help them -- is very beneficial to every nation. At 05:22 PM 8/10/03 , you wrote: Homosexuality -- in fact, any sexual activity between consenting adults -- does not harm anyone (as long as the participants avoid unwanted pregnancy and transmission of disease). Sexual activity -- the sharing of mutual pleasure -- is in fact beneficial: it often brings people closer together, and it discharges energy that otherwise might lead to frustration and anger. The purpose of moral rules is to minimize harm to people, so that all may live happily and successfully. Therefore the only basis of morality that makes any sense is, Do not harm anyone. By this sane pro-human standard, homosexuality and homosexual people are not immoral (as such) in any way. The only reason some people believe they are immoral is the influence of fundamentalist Judaeo-Christian religions. These religions are in many ways profoundly anti-human; their leaders and holy books have variously advocated and praised the genocide of many millions of people, as well as the murder of women who have sex before marriage, the murder of adherents of other religions, and the practice of genital mutilation. HIV/AIDS was spread in African nations, and in the male homosexual population in the U.S., by vaccines that were contaminated with the virus (probably intentionally). That is an appropriate topic of discussion for this list. The spewing of murderous hatred against harmless people, as motivated by fundamentalist religion, is not. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
[CTRL] People Are Forgetting The Act
-Caveat Lector- People Are Forgetting The Act By Devvy Kidd August 11, 2003 The 'gay' agenda continues to dominate the mainstream media, saturating America with propaganda that gays and lesbians are just normal, ordinary folks who should not be discriminated against because of their sexual orientation. We should accept their different form of love and allow children to be raised by them while they indoctrinate these innocents into their deathstyle. We should fall all over ourselves to bless their desire to marry and further destroy that which the Creator created: a human race where a man and woman marry, period. This writer finds this massive, ad nauseum push to normalize deviancy and perversion to be a well thought out assault on humanity itself and a threat to every innocent child in this country. Going back in time For thousands of years, the practice of men or women having sex with one another has been condemned by every major civilization and just about every religion, including those of the Jewish and Episcopalian faith. God's law on this is well articulated in the King James Version of the Holy Bible. God calls this behavior an abomination and yet, millions of Americans, including so-called Christians, are falling right into line by accepting deviancy and filth under the pretext of a mental illness griping America: political correctness. What part of God's law don't these people understand? You shall not lie with a male as those who lie with a female; it is an abomination. -- Leviticus 18:22: If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death. -- Leviticus 20:13: For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions: for their women exchanged the natural use for that which is against nature. And in the same way also the men abandoned the natural use of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.-- Romans 1:26-27: The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God. So do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revelers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the realm of God. -- I Corinthians 6:9: Law is not made for a righteous person but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and fornicators and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound (healthy) teaching. -- I Timothy 1:9-10: Those who practice sodomy and other deviant forms of sexual behavior will chant to their dying breath that these passages from the KJV of the Holy Bible are taken out of context and don't really mean what you just read. That may play well with those who are willing to throw their faith into the sewer of moral degeneracy, but this writer never will. Fast forward to the mid-80s Not long after the first cases of AIDS were diagnosed and this new killer began to claim precious lives, a subtle form of brainwashing began to creep into American homes via the stupid tube [television]. This brainwashing took many forms and we can all see the results today at how clever this tiny number of people were in getting an otherwise moral nation to toss its moral fabric into the sewer for tolerance. At the same time, a slow but steady drumbeat echoed across this land that queers, as they were called back then [and still are today by their own], were spreading this killer disease through irresponsible and perverted sexual habits. In order to counter this bad publicity, subtle new labels emerged. Sodomites and lesbians started to appear as guests on such programs as the Today Show and other talkies. These well orchestrated propaganda events brought Linda and Susie right into your kitchen over breakfast, decked out in business suits and oozing love. The very thought of the act these two women committed with each other's bodies was enough to bring bile immediately to the top. Those who refused to kow-tow to this kind of propaganda and cave in to pressure from well financed groups and organizations, were pilloried and given labels such as homophobe. In the State of Colorado, courageous Americans decided to do something about all the special privileges and status being given to morally bankrupt degenerates who had the unmitigated gall to compare homosexual rights to the plight of black Americans during the civil rights era. In 1992, Colorado voters approved Amendment 2 to their state constitution. This Amendment [later overturned by the Gods who sit on the U.S. Supreme Court], was to ensure that no one received preferential treatment, that all are equal under the law. The voice of the people was once again tossed
[CTRL] Bomb in Jakarta Hotel Was American/Israeli!!!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.joevialls.co.uk/transpositions/marriott.html Bomb in Jakarta Hotel Was American/Israeli Someone in Washington has a lot of explaining to do! Copyright Joe Vialls. 07 August 2003 By now we have all been saturated with the standard War on Terror blurb about the bombing of the Marriott Hotel in downtown Jakarta on 5 August 2003. Speaking with a single corporate voice, the western media stated surprisingly quickly that the bomb was the work of a lone suicide bomber working for the feared terrorist organization Jemaah Islamiah, which allegedly and very brazenly drove a Toyota van up to the front of the hotel, where the Toyota obligingly and predictably exploded with a loud and unmistakable bang. Warming to this incredibly inaccurate and deceitful theme, the corporate media then ran thousands of feet of video footage showing smoke billowing out of the hotel, people running around in circles, experts from three different continents saying how evil these Muslim Jemaah Islamiah folk really are, and so on and so on. Then in less than 48 hours we were told that the guilty bomber was called Asmal, who was unfortunately killed in the blast, making embarrassing trials like those in Bali completely unnecessary in the future. Alas, the corporate media was lying through its teeth as usual, with none of its facts standing up to even the most casual of scrutiny. The first Mega clue to the deception was the magnitude of the blast, which blew the windows out of all 25 floors of the condominium building next door. Do you have any idea how much overpressure in p.s.i. is needed to shatter reinforced laminated glass more than 450 feet away from ground zero? Adding to this huge problem was the reinforced concrete slab roof of the hotel lobby, through which the shock wave first had to travel before it could even begin to affect the tall condominium building. Check out the approximate blast vector shown in the center photograph below. The second Mega clue was the crater, or rather the lack of one. Though I searched diligently this proved impossible to find on the western corporate video footage, but I was finally sent a picture by a contact in Indonesia. Now then people, remember the corporate media has told you that the Toyota Van was parked in the driveway outside the front of the Marriott hotel, meaning that the media bomb must have generated a surface blast, which is incapable of digging any crater at all because the shock wave always takes the line of least resistance, i.e. to atmosphere. Remember also that the only bombs which make craters are pointy ones dropped at high velocity from aircraft, or those located underground in advance of [remote] detonations. It is here that we bump into our most monstrous problem, and also uncover the explanation of why no aerial photographs of the Marriott Hotel have managed to find their way into your living room. The explosion was not in the driveway outside the hotel, but inside the lobby itself, as shown in the photographs below. Worse still, the explosion actually occurred BELOW the lobby in the hotel basement, proved by the emergency services worker climbing down a ladder in the crater to get closer to ground zero. Also note the unmistakable pattern of the glass shattering outwards, away from the interior of the hotel lobby. Believe me when I say that this was a weapon of staggering power, with an awesome shock wave to match. First the shock wave had to burst up through the 24 reinforced concrete floor of the lobby, then retain enough power to continue upwards and punch and even bigger hole through the 12 reinforced concrete lobby roof. Even after doing all of that work, the shock wave was still travelling fast enough to trash all of the reinforced laminated windows in the 25-floor condominium building next door to the hotel. Within hours the Australian Federal Police were on the scene, reporting that the bomb was made of the same puny materials alleged to have killed more than 200 people in Bali on 12 October 2002. So there we were again, with Australian experts claiming that pathetically slow potassium chlorate detergent had just behaved like a sophisticated American bunker-busting micro nuke. Obviously puny potassium chlorate can do no such thing, and those who want a detailed description of this low explosive should click on the Bali Bomb link at the bottom of this page. Most dangerous for the American Administration are rational and verifiable claims that the US Embassy and others in Indonesia had advance knowledge of the explosion, and took avoidance measures. Sky News has a man in Jakarta who interviewed hotel senior management, then reported, Hotel bosses said staff and guests had been evacuated before the blast, which happened during the busy lunch hour. Though they managed to evacuate the hotel and main areas, there was no time for the restaurant, where many of the fatalities occurred. This claim has been verified by
Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/11/2003 8:37:25 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does one unsubscribe to this mailer? Ive tried and it gets nowhere. To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Unravelling of Tony Blair
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1004 The Unravelling of Tony Blair John Pilger Zmag.org In his latest article for the Daily Mirror, John Pilger argues that the "high crime" of the invasion of Iraq that "will not melt away" and says the catalogue of Tony Blair's deceptions are now being revealed by the day, unravelling what was left of his credibility. Such a high crime does not, and will not, melt away; the facts cannot be changed. Tony Blair took Britain to war against Iraq illegally. He mounted an unprovoked attack on a country that offered no threat, and he helped cause the deaths of thousands of innocent people. The judges at the Nuremberg Tribunal following world war two, who inspired much of international law, called this "the gravest of all war crimes". Blair had not the shred of a mandate from the British people to do what he did. On the contrary, on the eve of the attack, the majority of Britons clearly demanded he stop. His response was contemptuous of such an epic show of true democracy. He chose to listen only to the unelected leader of a foreign power, and to his court and his obsession. With his courtiers in and out of the media telling him he was "courageous" and even "moral" when he scored his "historic victory" over a defenceless, stricken and traumatised nation, almost half of them children, his propaganda managers staged a series of unctuous public relations stunts. The first stunt sought to elicit public sympathy with a story about him telling his children that he had "almost lost his job". The second stunt, which had the same objective, was a story about how his privileged childhood had really been "difficult" and "painful". The third and most outrageous stunt saw him in Basra, in southern Iraq last week, lifting an Iraqi child in his arms, in a school that had been renovated for his visit, in a city where education, like water and other basic services, are still a shambles following the British invasion and occupation. When I saw this image of Blair holding a child in Basra, I happened to be in a hotel in Kabul in Afghanistan, the scene of an earlier "historic victory" of Bush and Blair in another stricken land. I found myself saying out loud the words, "ultimate obscenity". It was in Basra that I filmed hundreds of children ill and dying because they had been denied cancer treatment equipment and drugs under an embargo enforced with enthusiasm by Tony Blair. It was the one story Blair's court would almost never tell, because it was true and damning. Up to July last year, $5.4 billion in vital and mostly humanitarian supplies for the ordinary people of Iraq were being obstructed by the United States, backed by Britain. Professor Karol Sikora, head of the World Health Organisation's cancer treatment programme, who had been to the same hospitals in Basra that I saw, told me: "The excuse that certain drugs can be converted into weapons of mass destruction is ludicrous. I saw wards where dying people were even denied pain-killers." That was more than three years ago. Now come forward to a hot May day in 2003, and here is Blair - shirt open, a man of the troops, if not of the people - lifting a child into his arms, for the cameras, and just a few miles from where I watched toddler after toddler suffer for want of treatment that is standard in Britain and which was denied as part of a medieval siege approved by Blair. Remember, the main reason that these life-saving drugs and equipment were blocked, the reason Professor Sikora and countless other experts ridiculed, was that essential drugs and even children's vaccines could be converted to weapons of mass destruction. Weapons of Mass Destruction, or WMD, has become part of the jargon of our time. When he finally goes, Blair ought have WMD chiselled on his political headstone. He has now been caught; for it must be clear to the most devoted courtier that he has lied about the primary reason he gave, repeatedly, for attacking Iraq. THERE is a series of such lies; I have counted at least a dozen significant ones. They range from Blair's "solid evidence" linking Iraq with Al-Qaeda and September 11 (refuted by British intelligence) to claims of Iraq's "growing" nuclear weapons programme (refuted by the International Atomic Energy Agency when documents quoted by Blair were found to be forgeries), to perhaps his most audacious tale - that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction "could be activated within 45 minutes". It is now Day 83 in the post-war magical mystery hunt for Iraq's "secret" arsenal. One group of experts, sent by George Bush, have already gone home. This week, British intelligence sources exposed Blair's "45 minutes" claim as the fiction of one defector with scant credibility. A United Nations inspector has ridiculed Blair's latest claim that two canvas-covered lorries represent "proof" of mobile chemical weapons. Incredible, yesterday he promised "a new dossier". It is
[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Europe and U.S. Agree on W.T.O. Farm Proposals
-Caveat Lector- This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] The NWO marches on [EMAIL PROTECTED] / advertisement ---\ Explore more of Starbucks at Starbucks.com. http://www.starbucks.com/default.asp?ci=1015 \--/ Europe and U.S. Agree on W.T.O. Farm Proposals August 13, 2003 By REUTERS Filed at 4:42 a.m. ET GENEVA (Reuters) - The European Union and the United States have reached agreement on a joint plan for world farm trade reform, diplomats said on Wednesday. The plan, which will be put to World Trade Organization (WTO) member states later in the day, could kickstart stalled negotiations on agriculture that are crucial to the overall Doha Round of free trade talks. ``They have told me that there is an agreement,'' Uruguayan Ambassador Carlos Perez del Castillo, Chairman of the WTO Executive General Council, told Reuters. No details of the accord were immediately available, but diplomats said it covered the three key areas -- domestic support, export subsidies and market access. Trade envoys are racing against time to make progress in the Doha Round before a make or break WTO ministerial conference in Cancun, Mexico next month. http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/business-trade-agriculture.html?ex=1061779871ei=1en=b9fe82ba55fb65bf - Get Home Delivery of The New York Times Newspaper. Imagine reading The New York Times any time anywhere you like! Leisurely catch up on events expand your horizons. Enjoy now for 50% off Home Delivery! Click here: http://www.nytimes.com/ads/nytcirc/index.html HOW TO ADVERTISE - For information on advertising in e-mail newsletters or other creative advertising opportunities with The New York Times on the Web, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit our online media kit at http://www.nytimes.com/adinfo For general information about NYTimes.com, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion (Bacon)
-Caveat Lector- I am puzzled about how the Roman Catholic Church can speak out as though opposing gays, when 10% of its own priests are leading active gay lives. The 10% figure comes from married ex-priest and university lecturer in psychiatry W. Richard Sipe, who is a sexual counsellor of catholic priests. His books say 10% of priests are gay, 30% of priests are leading lives of heterosexual relationships, and 6% are sexually oriented towards children. Is the Pope's real objection to gay marriage that it might put extra pressure on the church to let all priests marry, which would mean they have to pay priests salaries? This might send the church bankrupt. In the USA alone, if all RC priests had to be paid a salary of $35,000 a year, a minimum so they could marry and support a family, this would cost the Roman Catholic church $1.57 billion a year. LLM (Sending this again, so apologies if duplicated - I got a strange garbled version back) Subj: U.N. group in 'showdown with religion' Date: 8/7/03 11:51:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet (Details) U.N. group in 'showdown with religion' Gathered homosexual leaders to sharpen 'rights' strategy worldwide http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33984 C 2003 WorldNetDaily.com Buoyed by growing political acceptance of homosexuals worldwide, a United Nations group promoting gay and lesbian rights met in New York to sharpen a multi-pronged strategy that includes a showdown with religion. The meeting was sponsored by the U.N. Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual Employees, known as UNGLOBE, a group officially recognized by the worldwide body in 1996. At a forum Monday, attended briefly by U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, panel members singled out Roman Catholics and evangelical Protestants as opponents, according to the New York-based Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute. Speakers included U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who urged Congress to withhold support for a free trade agreement with Muslim-majority Egypt because of its treatment of homosexuals. Paula Ettelbrick, executive director of the San Francisco-based International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission, or IGLHRC, announced a coming showdown with religion and vowed Pope John Paul II's call to arms against homosexual marriage would be successfully combated. Another panel member, Princeton University professor Anthony Appiah, wondered whether or not religion should be limited, as it poses a challenge to the homosexual agenda. To thunderous applause, Svend Robinson, a member of the Canadian parliament, told the Catholic Church to clean up your own house before criticizing the morality of homosexuals. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Afghan Heroin Surge Angers Moscow
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Wall Street Journal August 11, 2003 Russian Drug Official Criticizes U.S. for Afghan Heroin Surge By MARK SCHOOFS Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL MOSCOW -- Calling attention to a growing sore spot between Washington and Moscow, Russia's newly appointed top drug cop said the U.S. could do more to reduce the flow of heroin from Afghanistan. Gen. Viktor Cherkessov, whose appointment this spring to head Russia's huge new drug-enforcement agency signals Moscow's new emphasis on the problem, said in an interview recently that drug production in Afghanistan has increased catastrophically. Asked if the U.S. is doing enough to help stem the problem, he chose his words carefully, saying that America isn't using its vast resources to the fullest extent to curtail production of Afghan opium. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, illegal drug use in Russia has skyrocketed, and heroin from Afghanistan is a favorite. That, in turn, has fueled explosive epidemics of HIV and other blood-borne viruses, such as hepatitis C. During its last year in power, Afghanistan's Taliban regime virtually eliminated opium-poppy production, though this may have been an attempt to boost prices by restricting supply rather than a genuine antidrug effort. The Taliban profited from the drug trade, according to international drug experts. But under U.S.-led occupation, Afghanistan's poppy output has surged again, accounting for more than three- quarters of world production. Gen. Cherkessov projects that this year's harvest will total 4,000 tons, up from the 3,422 tons that the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime says Afghanistan produced last year, its second-biggest harvest ever. Afghanistan produces virtually all the heroin sold in Russia and more than three-quarters of the heroin sold in Europe. Russia is a transit route for heroin headed to Western Europe. U.S. intelligence knew long before Sept. 11, 2001, that opium puts money into the coffers of al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. But over the past year, the U.S. hasn't curtailed production -- a situation about which Russian officials privately express outrage. In the interview, Gen. Cherkessov also derided U.N. efforts to encourage Afghan farmers to switch to other crops, saying no other crop matches opium's profit potential. He said the international community and the U.S. should work with Afghan forces to conduct military operations to stop opium production. The general said he recently met with the U.S. ambassador to Russia together with a high-level group of American drug experts. Officials at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow declined to comment on the meeting, but a law- enforcement specialist there said that the U.S. is providing equipment, vehicles, technical assistance and specialized training to antinarcotics units based near the Russian-Kazakh border in order to strengthen Russian law enforcement's counternarcotics capability. The official said the measures are aimed partly at stemming drug traffic from Afghanistan. Gen. Cherkessov is a key member of President Vladimir Putin's inner circle of power. He and Mr. Putin studied together at Leningrad State University and, like the president, Gen. Cherkessov was a KGB officer. He headed up the Leningrad investigative department and hounded dissidents. A tall, husky man with silver hair, the 53- year-old is smooth but considered very tough. His newly created State Committee for the Control of the Circulation of Narcotic and Psychotropic Substances has about 40,000 employees, and the bulk of its investigators come from the newly disbanded tax police. Gen. Cherkessov says he plans to exploit their financial expertise to attack drug lords through their money- laundering and other financial dealings. While his investigators will focus on narco-mafia kingpins, he
[CTRL] MRC Alert: Couric Tags Arnold as Nazi's Son, Then Condemns 'Dirty' Tactics (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:53:05 -0700 From: Media Research Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MRC Alert: Couric Tags Arnold as Nazi's Son, Then Condemns 'Dirty' Tactics ***Media Research Center CyberAlert*** 10:50am EDT, Monday August 11, 2003 (Vol. Eight; No. 152) The 1,558th CyberAlert. Tracking Liberal Media Bias Since 1996 Couric Tags Arnold as Nazi's Son, Then Condemns Dirty Tactics Lauer Worries About Collusion...All the Way to the White House Koppel Pleads with the Sensible Panetta to Get Into Race NBC News Reporter Pushes Schwarzenegger to the Left NBC: Like Reagan, Schwarzenegger Pretends to Not Hear Questions Newsweek: Dean Centrist While Schwarzenegger Conservative Dean Gave VT High Taxes, Yet Media Tag Him Fiscal Conservative NBC Backtracks on Blaming Global Warming for Heat Wave FNC Picks Up on PBS Affiliate's NIMBY Efforts to Avoid Laborers Top Ten Things Overheard During George W. Bush's Vacation Distributed to more than 14,000 subscribers by the Media Research Center, bringing political balance to the news media since 1987. The MRC is the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias. Visit the MRC on the Web: http://www.mediaresearch.org. CyberAlerts from this year are at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/cyber/welcome.asp For 2002: http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/cyber/archive02.asp Subscribe/unsubscribe information, as well as a link to the MRC donations page, are at the end of this message. When posted, this CyberAlert will be readable at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030811.asp 1) Katie Couric certainly has chutzpah. On Thursday's Today, beating Democratic operatives to the punch, Couric reminded viewers of Arnold Schwarzenegger's baggage, from smoking marijuana to being the son of a Nazi Party member to allegations that he's sexually harassed women and committed infidelity. But on Monday morning, she dared to scold Republican gubernatorial candidate Bill Simon as she cited a newspaper report about how a Simon strategist promised to spotlight the actor's raunchy past and liberal social views. Couric then demanded: How dirty will you get? 2) Matt Lauer on Friday morning tried to undermine the recall effort by worrying about whether there's collusion in the Republican Party that goes all the way to the White House? As if something would be wrong with that. Over on ABC's Good Morning America, Diane Sawyer reminded Arnold Schwarzenegger about how he blames California Governor Gray Davis for the state's $38 billion deficit and then demanded: Do you blame President Bush for the more than $450 billion deficit in the United States as a whole? 3) A lot of California Democrats were salivating at the thought that Mr. Panetta himself might jump into the Governor's race, Ted Koppel gushed on Thursday's Nightline about his only guest. Describing Leon Panetta as a good, strong, sensible politician, Koppel pleaded with him: Not to press the issue too much, but since it's gonna happen anyway, why not have a, you know, a good, strong, sensible politician like yourself to say, well, let's make the best of a bad deal and here I am and I'll try and help make it work? 4) Come to America, meet and marry a U.S. journalist and become more liberal. A profile of Arnold Schwarzenegger in Friday's Washington Post related how a film producer claimed Schwarzenegger's politics were to the right of Genghis Khan, but his thinking has definitely evolved over the years since he married NBC News reporter Maria Shriver, to the point where I would call him a kind of Shriver Republican. His views on many issues have been tempered by Maria and her family. Appearing on FNC's Fox and Friends, Schwarzenegger admitted that his father-in- law, liberal Democrat Sargent Shriver, has influenced me a lot. 5) NBC found a similarity between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ronald Reagan, but not an admirable one in the view of reporter George Lewis. On Friday's NBC Nightly News, Lewis suggested that on that morning's Today Schwarzenegger had just pretended to not hear a question about releasing his tax returns, an event which evoked memories of another movie star turned politician pretending not to hear questions. 6) The world through Newsweek's prism: Howard Dean in a centrist while Arnold Schwarzenegger is a conservative. 7) The Washington Times reports that Dean's budget balancing in Vermont, much-cited by the news media, left the state with quote, 'one of the
[CTRL] NIPR.MIL - MUITO INTERESSANTE
-Caveat Lector- http://brendastardom.com/home.asp 11-8-2003 - NIPR.MIL - MUITO INTERESSANTE 9:35 am GMT That needs no translation, very interesting indeed. I'm not a stat freak, if I were that's all I'd be doing - scouring the logs. Every once in awhile I get this feeling to see who's currently viewing the site. This is true, I swear, every single time there's either a NIPR.MIL with a base name attached to it, or DoD, the Pentagon, HUD, weird about HUD, anyway I always check what reports they're reading. It's mostly one about chemtrails, followed with Tesla and weather engineering, and my goings off about the base I lived smack next to on a beach in California. The last one I spotted was Friday and it was a NIPR.MIL, I won't name the base, and it was one about an email I got from an old friend who took on the California base with me and then went into the Eagle Eyes program. I have to admit to feeling a tiny shudder go through me. I spilled a lot of guts in that report and knowing they were reading the entrails was enough to get me searching to see if I'm alone in this. Of course not.. Lots of people post their entire stats as proof, IP's from regular visitors, too, and I started checking out the sites they were hitting. Uhhuh, strange sites, sites that offer information not found anywhere else, some people's private research, so yeah, if I were a snooping fed or military person I'd go there to pick some brains. I'd definitely be checking who's talking shit. It's weird, I did a chemtrail report with pictures from here, that went into a lot of 2 and 2's put together and it's still making the rounds. It's been linked to from unimaginable sites and is the most read report I've written and the one I wish now I hadn't written. I think that about a lot of them. Chemtrail queen. Yeah, a title I covet. I do believe they exist and that there's a cover-up and I'm not fanatical about it, but the military, government, DoD and even the Pentagon are sure hot on this subject. I have to think, wow, some of this stuff could get me in the deep muddy if I were in the states and then that leads to flying and the lists they have of people they think aren't loyal to the current governmentl. Panic fleets fast, but its presence is felt. Then I have to think, am I being unduly paranoid? Am I being thought of as a conspiracist or have I exposed things I shouldn't? Don't they know I'm nuts? Certifiable? Damaged by their tests? See, that alone puts me in a different category because it sounds like it's something I hallucinated. It was real. The effects have lasted. Enough said. I have to stop talking about this. I kill myself. I just reread a report I wrote in November called 'When the Pentagon Comes Calling' and I spilled more than that I ever have. I totally forgot about that one. YIKES! I need a rock, I need a rock. Ahem. See what others have to say about NIPR and some of their visits. "Nipr.mil is not a single domain a but a hush-hush web proxy that acts as a gateway for hundreds of U.S. military domains in order to hide their identities. It was established by the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) in response to a memorandum (CM-5 1099, INFOCOM) issued in March 1999 by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, calling for "actions to be taken to increase the readiness posture for Information Warfare." "Uncontrolled Internet connections," the document says, "pose a significant and unacceptable threat to all Department of Defense information systems and operations." "Let it be know that on Mar 31 2001 at 08:54 MST NIPR.MIL, the United States Department of Defense Network Operations, completed a visit to this website, www.carnicom.com. The duration of this uninterrupted visit was approximately 10 1/2 hours and it involved an inspection or review of 53 web pages within this same internet site. The DISA created NIPR so that NIPR is essentially a VERY secure, single point of contact for all DoD connections to the web. Imagine it as a super firewall for all of the DoD's various branches, partners, and educational institutions that work with the DoD." These are from a site which basically lets the reader make up his/her mind about these showing in their stats, reprinting the emails he gets both from the military and private citizens. "Yes. Some of us have Internet access. Many times, we search for information pertaining to our specialties, as the Internet is a wealth of information. It's hard to tell if the site will be helpful from the limited information given in the search's results, so people click the link. I hope you don't think you're being monitored though. People who connect through a military server just happen to hit your site sometimes. It happens. *shrug* I wouldn't worry if I were you." "The US military has an extensive program for the study of civilian activity, location of potential leaders and their affiliates, communication lines, emotional content within "propaganda". Recall that
[CTRL] Get-out-of-Jail-Free Card for Oil Companies
from http://www.progressive.org/webex03/wx080803.html August 8, 2003 Get-out-of-Jail-Free Card for Oil Companies Take a gander at Executive Order 13303, which President Bush signed on May 22. It is innocuously entitled, Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq Has an Interest. But that other property refers directly to-surprise, surprise--oil. And the purpose of the Executive Order seems to be to shield U.S. companies and oil execs from prosecution. Unilaterally declaring a national emergency, Bush wrote: Any judicial process is prohibited, and shall be deemed null and void with respect to . . . all Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein . . . in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons. Included in the definition of United States persons is any entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches). That means ExxonMobil. Leaving aside the legalese--you know, all those thereofs and hereafters--what we have here is a get-out-of-jail-free card for all of Bush's and Cheney's buddies in the oil industry. They can bribe officials, they can underpay their foreign workers, they can recklessly spill oil all over the lands and waters of Iraq--and still they will be untouchable by any arm of the law, at least that's how it reads to me. On top of that, if they're unloading Iraqi oil at some U.S. port, say Baltimore, and they spill it there, they may still be immune, because the order covers any petroleum, petroleum products or natural gas originating in Iraq, including any Iraqi-origin oil inventories wherever located. Not to worry. The Bush Administration said Wednesday that the immunity wouldn't be nearly so broad, the Los Angeles Times reported on August 7. But legal scholars interviewed by the LA Times said the order essentially gives oil companies blanket protection. In the lead-up to the war, peace activists were ridiculed for having the temerity to suggest that this war had anything to do with oil. But here it is, in black and white, in Executive Order 13303. -- Matthew Rothschild
[CTRL] David Kay, Finder of Weapons of Mass Destruction
-Caveat Lector- http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2003_08_01_xymphora_archive.html#106049822784745726 David Kay says that most of the alternative uses that have been suggested for the Iraqi trailers "didn't pass the laugh test", and that "the silliest one" was the suggestion that they had been designed to generate hydrogen for meteorological balloons. How do we reconcile that with the fact that engineering experts from the Defense Intelligence Agency now believe that the most likely use for the trailers was to generate hydrogen for meteorological balloons? Are the only real scientists who have considered the issue - other than the British experts, who came to the exact same conclusion earlier when they actually had the chance to examine the trailers, and after all were in a good position to do the analysis as a British company had sold the hydrogen production technology to Saddam in 1987 - just being silly? Are the Iraqi scientists, who are being kept in miserable conditions in American custody until they come up with the 'right' answers but who have consistently maintained that the trailers were for hydrogen production only, just being silly? I don't think David Kay passes the laugh test, or the smell test. posted 3:59 AM This is an outstanding compilation of lies told by the British government and the Bush Administration regarding Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction and connections between Iraq and al Qaeda. Given that the media was absolutely saturated with such lies in the months before the attack on Iraq, you wouldn't think that such a compilation would be necessary, but it is because the Bush Administration and the usual suspects who slavishly protect it are now claiming that such lies were never made!!! posted 3:17 AM David Kay, Finder of Weapons of Mass Destruction: 1. From an MSNBC article (or here - scroll down; the MSNBC link doesn't seem to work) dated May 11 by by Jim Avila on the "three trailers believed to be mobile biological weapons laboratories capable of producing deadly germs for weapons": "Former U.N. weapons inspector David Kay told NBC there was no other possible purpose for the lab. 'This is it,' he said." 2. FAIR points out that Avila reported from Baghdad on May 12, and was joined by none other than David Kay, who was flown over to add his incredible expertise on weapons of mass destruction. Kay had a pointer, and reviewed the trailers' parts: "This is a compressor. You want to keep the fermentation process under pressure so it goes faster. This vessel is the fermenter . . . ." An MSNBC transcript (also not available from an MSNBC link, but still on Google cache) doesn't contain all of Kay's words, but just his words "Then through a series of other tanks", which seems to be part of his pointer show, but does contain the following by Kay: "Gee, whiz. This is it. If you look at it, you see the essential elements of a biological production process." 3. On August 8, the New York Times reported: "Engineering experts from the Defense Intelligence Agency have come to believe that the most likely use for two mysterious trailers found in Iraq was to produce hydrogen for weather balloons rather than to make biological weapons, government officials say." This was a new completely technical analysis by scientists who were actually experts in what a bio-weapons facility would have to contain. Note the kicker almost at the end of the article (my emphasis): "Bush administration officials have said the most compelling information that the trailers were used for making biological weapons has come from a human source, an Iraqi scientist who described the trailers and what he said was their weapon-making role to American experts months before the trailers were discovered." Months before the trailers were discovered, i. e., before the attack started. The 'Iraqi scientist' is another dissident defector providing more of the horse manure which the Bush Administration used as the justification for the attack! The reason they were so fast to jump to wrong conclusions about the trailers is that they had already been primed by misinformation to see what they wanted to see. The funniest thing is that, in the tough days when Bush could find no WMD's, he latched onto these very trailers as his final hope, and we now know that this was just another lie. Speaking of horse manure, David Kay's performance with a pointer was absolute hooey. It is as if they sent Britney Spears over to explain semiconductor physics. Kay must have had to contain himself from breaking out laughing as he stood there, pointer in hand, describing things he had not the slightest clue about, all the while spouting complete nonsense about weapons of mass destruction. As Cheryl Seal has pointed out, Kay isn't even a scientist. We ought to remember Kay's role in the trailers charade in September when we're fed the new line of manure concerning Kay's evidence of Saddam's weapons
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...
-Caveat Lector- When did they (the so-called scientists) find the missing link? JR - Original Message - From: Eric Hoffsten To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd... -Caveat Lector-Wow, I had NO idea you people were so uptight! I'd figure anybody smartenough to see through the fog and lies of the current political climatecould also see through the fog and lies of the anti-gay agenda propogatedby the *EXACT SAME FORCES*.Sheesh. Mark S. Bilk nailed it, though. His reasoned, thoughtful responsewas right on the money. Way to go, Mark. Now where are the rest of you?I'm hoping you're too busy out there standing up for human rights, fightingthe hate-mongering religious wackos sputtering monosyllabic diatribes abouthow we should all "repent" as the end is nigh or something... (Hey, theend may very well be nigh, but we'd be better off increasing fuelefficiency than hassling people about who they love...)And YOU, "iNFoWaRZ" -- if that IS your real name, heh heh (are you really ateenage hacker?) -- to you I'd ask: Where is the morality indiscrimination, bigotry, and hate? As you seem to have cornered the marketon the latter, I'd like to see a bit of the former...Lastly, re: Jim Rarey's post:Of course belief in God is a matter of faith, not scientific evidence,just like belief in evolution.You're kidding, right? If not, perhaps someday you should speak to anactual scientist. Or better, just show the 0.6% of qualifying DNA thatproves you're a human and not a chimp.To all of you who refuse to stand up for human dignity, I'd like to make adeal: I'll call off the recruitment party if you stop imposing on me thesupposed "words" of your invisible superheroes who live in outer space.Fair enough?--ehwww.ctrl.orgDECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substanceâ?"not soap-boxingâ?"please! These aresordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'â?"with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright fraudsâ?"is used politically by different groups withmajor and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, andalways suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives nocredence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="">ctrlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
Title: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. -Caveat Lector- Silly boy that you are. Here you are attempting to change God?s creation when your personal imbittered battle is with God Himself. Let?s see who wins. Be gone with you. It just so happens that God is a personal friend of mine. I asked God about you. God said you were full of crap. "Such language!" I said, "and from Your mouth, too. Why, I'm shocked, simply shocked." "Oh get off it," said God, " I'm God. I can say anything I damn please. Besides, there's nothing wrong with crap. I invented crap. Crap is good. But you're supposed to put it on your garden, not between your ears." www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times
Oh, come on, sex is not a spectator sport. And thanks for changing the thread, it was becoming boring. G*d Bless, Bill On Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003, at 16:10 US/Pacific, RevCOAL wrote: >How come so many animals do it...??
Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- I did just that but thats how I get the error messages that the address is incorrect! Could it be its a lock in to this stuff? Hence the following: Your message is being returned to you unprocessed because no command was found in the message body. LISTSERV expects commands in the body of the message, rather than in the message subject, because some users have no control over the contents of the Subject: field on outgoing messages. UnsubscribeMissing parameter - specify the name of a list, or * (without the quotes)for all lists on this server. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War? In a message dated 8/11/2003 8:37:25 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does one unsubscribe to this mailer? Ive tried and it gets nowhere. To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="" PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/10/2003 10:50:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can vouch for invalidity of that website. The author is a new age pagan female anti-Christ who's works are the epitome of distortion and lies. She has twisted historical facts and has absolutely no grasp of reality. Even her works on politics, science, and her own "religion" are total bullshit. This is one twisted woman. The truth is far from her. Truthbeknown.com? Not on this website. Avoid it like the plague. Acharya is a personal friend of mine...and you obviously are clueless. A true-believe aren't you? Moron. Bill. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL Says Extremists Use The Talmud to Promote Anti-Semitism
Title: ADL Says Extremists Use The Talmud to Promote Anti-Semitism -Caveat Lector- Home|Law Enforcement|Search|About|Contact Issues Anti-Semitism --Arab World Civil Rights Combating Hate Education Extremism Hate Crimes Hate Symbols Database Holocaust Interfaith International Affairs Internet Israel Law Enforcement Nation of Islam Religious Freedom Security Awareness Terrorism Terrorist Organization Database News Press Releases ADL About ADL ADL Regional Offices Resources A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE Institute® ADL Catalog: Resources for Classroom and Community Law Enforcement Agency Resource Network Militia Watchdog Archives Student Film/Video Productions: The Dore Schary Awards Press Release Anti-Semitism: USA ADL Says Extremists Use The Talmud to Promote Anti-Semitism New York, NY, February 20, 2003 ... The Talmud - the classic text of Jewish law and lore, history and philosophy - increasingly is being used by extremists to promote their anti-Semitism. In a new report, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) exposes the lies of anti-Semites, Holocaust deniers and others who cite Talmudic texts as evidence that Judaism is "perverted" or "immoral." The Talmud in Anti-Semitic Polemics (requires Acrobat Reader, 202 kb) "It has become a common refrain among the anti-Semites that the Talmud is the 'smoking gun' that confirms their belief about Jews being stingy, malevolent and intent on world domination," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "They create this myth about Jewish practices and tradition, which helps to further justify and promote their anti-Semitism." ADL's report, The Talmud in Anti-Semitic Polemics, exposes how certain passages from the Talmud and other traditional Jewish texts are used to foment anti-Semitism through distortions and fabrications. The authors of anti-Talmudic polemics seek to paint Judaism as an immoral religion that preaches hatred for non-Jews and promotes obscenity, criminality, sexual perversion and other immoral acts. Widely available on the Internet, such anti-Talmudic tracts "are clearly designed to provoke hostility toward Jews," Mr. Foxman said. The foremost distorters of Talmudic texts include David Duke, the former Klansman and white supremacist, and Michael A. Hoffman II, a conspiracy theorist and Holocaust denier. Among the claims refuted by the ADL report are: The claim that Judaism views non-Jews as "non-human;" The claim that Judaism encourages child molestation; The claim that Jews should not be trusted because they recite the Kol Nidre prayer that authorizes them to lie to non-Jews; The claim that Judaism demands that non-Jews who study Jewish law be put to death; The claim that the Talmud employs the name
[CTRL] Iran-Contra, amplified
-Caveat Lector- http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EH12Ak03.html Iran-Contra, amplified By Jim Lobe WASHINGTON - A specter of the Iran-Contra affair is haunting Washington. Even some of the people and countries are the same. And the methods - particularly the pursuit by a network of well-placed individuals of a covert, parallel foreign policy that is at odds with official policy - are definitely the same. Boiled down to its essentials, the Iran-Contra affair was about a small group of officials based in the National Security Agency (NSC) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that ran an "off-the-books" operation to secretly sell arms to Iran in exchange for hostages held in Tehran after the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran. They used the proceeds over the following years to sustain the Nicaraguan Contras - US-sponsored rebels fighting Managua's left-wing government - in defiance of both a congressional ban and of official US policy as enunciated by the State Department and then president Ronald Reagan. It was never clear whether Reagan understood, let alone approved, the operation. The picture emerging from the latest reports about the manipulation of intelligence in the drive to war with Iraq, as well as efforts by administration hawks to deliberately aggravate tensions with Syria, Iran, and North Korea in defiance of official State Department and US policy, suggest a similar but much more ambitious scheme at work. As with Reagan, in this case, too, it is difficult to determine whether President George W Bush - or even his NSC director, Condoleezza Rice - fully understand, let alone approve, of what the hawks are doing. There was some hint of a parallel policy apparatus dating back just after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. It was known early on, for example, that the Pentagon leadership, without notice to the State Department, the NSC, or the CIA, convened its advisory Defense Policy Board (DPB), headed by Richard Perle, to discuss attacking Iraq within days of the attacks. The three agencies were also kept in the dark about a mission undertaken immediately afterward by former CIA director and DPB member James Woolsey to London to gather intelligence about possible links between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda, as if the CIA or the Pentagon's own Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) could not be trusted. While Woolsey's trip recalls the more benign shenanigans of the Iran-Contra crowd, consider some of the more recent press reports. Item: Iran-Contra alumnus Michael Ledeen (and close Perle associate) has renewed ties with his old acquaintance, Manichur Ghorbanifar, an Iranian arms merchant who became the key link between the NSC's Oliver North, the operational head of Iran-Contra, and the so-called "moderates" in the Islamic Republic. To what end? It appears that certain elements in the Pentagon leadership, specifically Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith, are trying to sabotage sensitive talks between Tehran and the State Department on cooperation over al-Qaeda and other pressing issues affecting Afghanistan and Iraq. They think that Ledeen's old friend Ghorbanifar can help, according to Newsday, which reported on Friday that two of Feith's senior aides - without notice to the other agencies - have held several meetings with the Iranian, whom the CIA has long considered "an intelligence fabricator and nuisance". Item: US aircraft and special operations force intercepted and destroyed a residential compound and two small convoys that were heading from Iraq into Syria in mid-June, killing as many as 80 civilians. They then subdued and arrested five Syrian guards across the border, taking them back to Iraq, where they were held and interrogated over the strong objections of the State Department for five days. For what purpose? The Pentagon says that it thought senior Saddam officials were trying to make a run for it on a smuggling route. But an expose last month by The New Yorker suggested that the raid and arrests may have been part of a deliberate effort to inflame tensions with Damascus and thus put an end to remarkably close cooperation between Syria, the CIA and the State Department in the campaign against al-Qaeda. Item: Certain "high-level circles within the administration" were reported by the right-wing Washington Times on Friday to be hoping to persuade Chinese military officers to co-sponsor a coup with their North Korean counterparts against leader Kim Jong-il. While it is not clear the proposals have been acted on concretely, the Times noted that the Pentagon leadership disagrees strongly with the State Department's efforts to engage Kim in talks to persuade him to abandon his nuclear-weapons program in exchange for a non-aggression pledge. Just before Korea agreed to resume talks recently, Under Secretary of State John Bolton, widely considered to be much closer to the Pentagon hawks than his superiors at
Re: [CTRL] Truthbeknown Pagan Newage Website
-Caveat Lector- My feelings and sentiments exactly infowarez... that site is so deranged with new age claptrap... it reeks - Original Message - From: iNFoWaRZ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd... -Caveat Lector- At 11:36 PM 8/10/03 , you wrote: God inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the sovereign authority to establish right morals for right living, Gods Word is inerrant and infallible. Thats enough for me.Bet your bumper sticker says something "witty" like that too eh?Go you www.truthbeknown.com and learn more than you've every imagined. You're being had buddy. But I suspect you're happy that way.Bill. I can vouch for invalidity of that website. The author is a new age pagan female anti-Christ who's works are the epitome of distortion and lies.She has twisted historical facts and has absolutely no grasp of reality.Even her works on politics, science, and her own "religion" are total bullshit.This is one twisted woman.The truth is far from her.Truthbeknown.com?Not on this website.Avoid it like the plague. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/2003 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Remnant of COINTELPRO Alive and Well, with Tom Ridge's Blessing
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- "Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit" - Threat or Menace? by Geov Parrish Eat the State! [http://eatthestate.org/07-18/LEIUThreatMenace.htm] May 7, 2003 Welcome to the 48th Annual Training Seminar of the Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit, a roving annual event coming this year to Seattle, Washington, on June 2-5. The theme of this year's sold-out private conference: "Criminal Intelligence and the War on Terror." Be very afraid. Or annoyed, depending on which side you're on. At first glance, the LEIU's gathering looks like any of the dozens of trade shows and conferences that enable America's professionals to enjoy a tax- deductible, or taxpayer-paid, few days of Northwest summer. This one happens to involve a trade association for cops. But hey, you want your public officials to be up on the latest trends, too, right? Well, maybe. The problem with the LEIU seminar --and the reason planned protests of it have the Internet buzzing, particularly among folks who've cut their teeth protesting wars and the WTO-- is that the LEIU might be very ordinary, or very, very sinister, or both -- and there's no way to tell. The Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit is a private entity whose dues-paying members are hundreds of North American law enforcement agencies. Its founding purpose, in the Cold War atmosphere of 1956, was "to promote the gathering, recording, and exchange of confidential information not available through normal police channels, concerning organized crime." Formed in California, LEIU's roster of interests, and LEIU itself, steadily expanded in subsequent years, especially under Gov. Ronald Reagan and his Executive Assistant, Edwin Meese. It received some attention in the 1970s in conjunction with GAO and Congressional investigations, including that of the federal COINTELPRO program that sought to "neutralize" black, anti-war, and other radical political movements hated by J. Edgar. Various local scandals around the country, particularly in Chicago and Detroit, revealed that the LEIU had been linked with efforts by police departments to spy on dissidents. LEIU's prime purpose, critics charged, was to enable cops to not only swap information, but to get around local laws against such practices. Because LEIU was, and is, a private organization --even though publicly funded law enforcement agencies funded it-- LEIU didn't need to tell anyone what it was doing. It still doesn't. Search for "Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit" on any engine and you'll find four types of hits: law enforcement agency budget line items for dues; historical information from 30 and more years ago; conspiracy theorists; and calls to come protest this June in Seattle. What's missing, remarkably, is virtually anything on what LEIU is up to today, or has done in the last quarter century -- including the '80s, when Reagan had risen to President and Meese to US Attorney General. A search of newspaper databases is similarly barren. Add in the post-9/11 USA PATRIOT Act, proposed PATRIOT II, new domestic roles for the Pentagon and CIA, and new Ashcroft regulations encouraging federal, state, and local agencies to investigate political and religious groups with or without reasonable suspicion of criminal wrongdoing, and this year's LEIU training --with or without invited keynoter Tom Ridge-- is attracting, for the first time perhaps ever, efforts to organize major protests. It's also generating not a little bit of paranoia. In the complete absence of known abuses, radical activists who've never been seriously inhibited by outfits like LEIU are throwing around terms like "police state" with remarkable ease. But, as saying goes. just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. The brief '70s exposure of LEIU turned up a maze of interagency connections
[CTRL] SNET: Can Globalism Amend Our Constitution? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God,indivisible,with liberty and justice for all. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 07:44:17 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: Can Globalism Amend Our Constitution? - SNETNEWS Mailing List Can Globalism Amend Our Constitution? Aug. 13, 2003 by: Phyllis Schlafly We live in a global economy, right? But the elite's mouthing this mantra haven't shared with the American people the news that Globalism not only means open borders for the movement of goods and the migration of peoples, plus textbooks teaching children to be citizens of the world instead of patriots. Globalism also means bending the United States Constitution into conformity with opinions of foreigners who pompously enunciate new laws and new human rights. The uttering of these self-important bureaucrats in the United Nations and some European countries could be merely matters for TV humor if it were not that Supreme Court Justices Breyer, Kennedy, Ginsburg and Stevens take them seriously. Justice Breyer gleefully told George Stepanopoulos on ABC News how the United States is changing through commerce and through globalization ... [and] through immigration, and that this change is having an impact on the courts. He speculated on the challenge of whether our U.S. Constitution fits into the governing documents of other nations. Where did he get the idea that the U.S. Constitution should fit into the laws of other nations? If a country can't make its own laws, how can it be a sovereign nation? In a dissent in Knight v. Florida, Breyer said it was useful to consider court decisions on allowable delays of execution in India, Jamaica and Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe, indeed, has had a lot of experience with executions, but it's hardly a country from which we should get guidance about due process. Justice Kennedy couldn't find any language in the U.S. Constitution to justify overturning the Texas sodomy law in Lawrence v. Texas, so he invoked other authorities in Western civilization, namely, the European Court of Human Rights, which invalidated EU countries' domestic laws proscribing homosexual conduct. Kennedy cited an amicus brief filed by Mary Robinson, former United Nations high commissioner for human rights. Kennedy wrote, The right the petitioners seek [to engage in sodomy] has been accepted as an integral part of human freedom in many other countries, and he emphasized the values we share with a wider civilization. In fact, most other countries do not share American values, and we don't want to share theirs. Reading foreign court decisions no doubt contributed to Kennedy's reliance on emerging awareness ... in matters pertaining to sex instead of on the U.S. Constitution. Four justices joined in Kennedy's majority decision without distancing themselves from his Globalyst reasoning or his false recitation of U.S. history of sodomy laws. Justice Scalia eloquently dissented: Constitutional entitlements do not spring into existence ... because foreign nations decriminalize conduct. He called Kennedy's words dangerous dicta, adding that the Supreme Court should not impose foreign moods, fads or fashions on Americans. Of course, the Supreme Court should not; but it did. Is the Court now going to use Canada's fad about same-sex marriages to overturn the laws of our 50 states? Instead of condemning Kennedy's use of foreign courts to change U.S. laws, the American Bar Association president opined that the concept of fundamental law knows no national boundaries. Sounding off from left field, Harvard professor Laurence Tribe chimed in to applaud the important insights of the global legal community. Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, concurring in Grutter v. Bollinger, cited a treaty to justify the University of Michigan Law School's affirmative action. They wrote: The International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, ratified by the United States in 1994 ... endorses special and concrete measures to ensure the adequate development and protection of certain racial groups ... for the purpose of guaranteeing them the full and equal enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms. When the Senate ratified that treaty under pressure from the Clinton Administration (30 years after Lyndon Johnson signed it), I wonder if anyone predicted that it would require U.S. schools to impose reverse discrimination based on race. In Atkins v. Virginia, Justice John Paul Stevens' majority opinion cited an amicus brief from the European Union. The EU warned
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- In II Timothy 3:16 we are told all scripture (Old Testament) is breathed of God (comes from God). Since Jesus is God (John 1.1 In the beginning was the Word and theWord was with God and the Word was God. - John 1:14 The word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.)he is the author of the condemnations of homosexuality in the Old Testament. This should answer your question. If it doesn't it must be because you don't believe the Bible. If so, why bother asking for chapter andverse? JR - Original Message - From: Nessie SFBG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion -Caveat Lector-The wrongs you list are perversions of the gospel preached by JesusWhere exactly did Jesus condemn homosexuality? Be specific. Cite thechapter and verse. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter The NeoCon Trojan Horse
-Caveat Lector- ha haaa.. yes a horse indeed... one they should of put out to pasture a long time ago...lol... - Original Message - From: Prudy L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter The NeoCon Trojan Horse -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/13/2003 2:32:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Horse I think that's misspelled. Prudy www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.509 / Virus Database: 306 - Release Date: 8/12/2003 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skolnick: The Breakaway States In America
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general40/skol38.htm The Overthrow Of The American Republic - Part 38 The Breakaway States In America by Sherman H. Skolnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.skolnicksreport.com 8-11-3 There are examples throughout history of the making of Empires and the breaking up of the same. How did a small group of islands take over sizeable land and treasure all over the world? Simple. The British are the leading experts on studying the ways of other peoples and other places. They have for centuries figured out the schemes to grab what they want by turning groups against one another. India and China are examples. South Africa another case to consider. As discussed in this website series, the British have vowed to take back the land called America, reverting the inhabitants to being mere subjects of the Monarchy in Britain, and the continent to being mere colonies of the Crown. They failed in fomenting the bloody American Civil War, also known as the War Between the States, to turn historic trends against each other. The dirty trick included instigating states to breakaway from the central government, forming the Confederacy, yet based on natural hatred between the industrial North and the slave-agricultural South. And the British during World War One seized portions of the failing Turkish Ottoman Empire, which included portions of the Mid-East, such as now called Iraq. Like in the attempt to wreck the American Empire, the British by the 1930s had to abandon Iraq and later were involved in controlling the Peacock Throne, Persia, Iran. By the late 1980s, through their secret political police, the U.S. was well along to breaking up the Soviet Empire, previously known as the Czarist Russian Empire. A super secret unit of the U.S. Treasury, in combination with the American CIA, produced a superior quality counterfeit Soviet paper currency, the ruble. Also used, in part, was a flood of superior quality countefeit U.S. paper currency, that is, Federal Reserve Notes, masquerading as the "U.S. Dollar". The bogus paper money was produced by a team of world-class engravers, known in the counterfeit trade as "master cutters". [Discussed earlier in this series.] The details became known in that Daddy Bush, as President together with the CIA and the Treasury, failed to pay the counterfeiters. A little-known federal court case deals with the hang-up. The counterfeiters demanded absolute proof that they would be paid the huge, promised fees in valid, not bogus, money. So the Moscow government was toppled the classic way, with being financially undermined with super-duper fake money. The result? The breakaway provinces of what was previously the Soviet Empire. The Russians with great military means but suffering huge casualties, have been seeking to punish some of these breakaway pieces of their vast land, treasures, minerals, and such. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bush Crime Family, jointly with Bill and Hillary Clinton as cohorts, have not given up on pro-British diabolical methods to divide up the States, not OF AMERICA, but IN AMERICA. As we have shown, the Bushies have a One Hundred Billion Dollar joint account with the Queen of England, in her private enterprise, Coutts Bank London. [Related documents are in our website series "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush"; copies of the One Hundred Billion Dollar joint account have been circulated by us, and an authenticated copy is part of the website of a radio talk show which has me on from time to time, http://www.cloakanddagger.ca/ http://www.cloakanddagger.ca/ The One Hundred Billion Dollar joint account, the Bushies/the Queen, is made up from private partnership funds of Daddy Bush and Saddam Hussein, a creation of the American CIA. [Little-known federal case in Chicago that dealt with this, where I was the only journalist covering it, is dealt with in detail in our website story "The Secrets of Timothy McVeigh".] In its simplest form, Enron and Arthur Andersen accounting, were dirty tricks of the American CIA, in with Carylyle Group, the Bush Crime Family, as run in part by former top British government officials. Enron officials reportedly arranged to falsify out-of-state electric transmissions to California. Thus created, was a fraudulent shortage of electric power in California right before and right after the alleged presidential "election" of 2000. The California authorities, fighting "brown-outs" and actual "black-outs", had to pay as much as ten times the usual rate for electric power transmission from the grid. To deal with an almost impossible monstrous deficit, California authorities have quietly been exploring avenues of rescue. They have secretly explored the idea of California becoming a breakaway STATE IN AMERICA. Some believe this is not quite the same as the states that brokeaway, instigated by the British, to form the Confederacy. For this purpose, to have funds to pay their expenses,
[CTRL] Free Vanunu!
-Caveat Lector- http://ontario.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=20850group=webcast PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD TO HOLD VIGILS TO MARK THE 17TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE KIDNAPPING AND IMPRISONMENT OF ISRAELI WHISTLEBLOWER MORDECHAI VANUNU - PLEASE JOIN US. Dear friends, There will be vigils around the world on and around Tuesday, September 30 calling for the immediate release of imprisoned Israeli nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu. September 30 is the 17th anniversary of his kidnapping and imprisonment. Vanunu, who worked at the Dimona nuclear facility in the Negev Desert, told the London Sunday Times in 1986, as a matter of conscience, about Israel's secret nuclear arsenal. The international campaign to free Vanunu is calling for people to vigil in front of Israeli embassies, consulates and other sites in countries around the world, calling for nuclear abolition and Mordechai's release. Mordechai has repeatedly been turned down for parole and is scheduled to serve his full sentence. He's been given a release date of April 22, 2004. It's imperative that we keep the pressure on the Israeli government and let them know that there are people around the world who continue to call for Vanunu's unconditional and immediate release. BECAUSE WE EXPECT THAT THIS IS THE LAST SEPTEMBER 30 ANNIVERSARY DATE THAT MORDECHAI WILL HAVE TO SPEND BEHIND BARS, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE FREE VANUNU VIGILS IN AS MANY CITIES AROUND THE WORLD AS POSSIBLE. CAN YOU JOIN US? Are you interested in organizing a vigil in your town or city? We are hoping for participation from many countries and groups, so that throughout the entire day there is a vigil, large and small, for Vanunu somewhere in the world. It's also fine to plan a vigil within a couple of days of the September 30 date. Please let us know if you'll have a vigil so we can have a complete list of sites for press releases. In past years, Free Vanunu vigils were held in Wellington, Sydney, Jerusalem, New Delhi, Chennai, Hiroshima, Washington, D.C., San Francisco, Boston, Toronto, Vancouver, London, Salisbury, Leicester, Lisbon, Rome, Stockholm, and Oslo. Past vigils have had anywhere from 3 to 50 participants. In addition to holding signs and banners, some have handed out leaflets, had petitions for people to sign, blown whistles, had people take turns in a mock prison cell, read Mordechai's poetry aloud, delivered letters to the embassy, and had speakers and musical performances. This year, plans are already underway for vigils in Budapest, London, San Francisco and Washington, D.C. Now is the time to start planning your own vigil. Please help to spread the message that Mordechai Vanunu has remained committed to while locked up inside Ashkelon Prison for all these years: No nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East or anywhere in the world! If you are interested in being part of this worldwide vigil for Mordechai, or have any questions, please contact as soon as possible, the U.S. campaign to free Vanunu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the British campaign to free Vanunu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SHARE THIS POST WITH ANTI-NUCLEAR AND HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL CHAPTERS, ETC. On September 30, we will be announcing the launch of an international appeal to raise funds to help Mordechai rebuild his life after his release. We will also be encouraging people to join us in Israel to welcome Mordechai on his release from Askkelon Prison on April 22, 2004. For more information about Vanunu, and to sign the international petition calling for his release, visit http://www.nonviolence.org/vanunu/ and http://www.vanunu.freeserve.co.uk/ For a report and photos of the 2001 and 2002 international vigils, visit http://www.nonviolence.org/vanunu/w02vigils.html and http://www.nonviolence.org/vanunu/archive6/f02vigils.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF
[CTRL] Imperial Wars, Then Now
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34063 Imperial wars, then now Patrick J. Buchanan Posted: August 13, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern Having found neither weapons of mass destruction nor a link to 9-11, the White House has retreated into its fallback position. It now defends Operation Iraqi Freedom as a necessary war to rid the Middle East of a brutal dictatorship and replace it with a democracy. That is, this was a war of democratic imperialism, as some of us said all along. The neocons exploited America's rage after 9-11 and steered the president into invading Iraq, in order to reshape its political system and redirect its foreign policy. Imperialism, pure and simple. Ahmed Chalabi was the puppet preselected to run the colony. Now, we are mired in a guerrilla war, with daily dead and wounded, costing $1 billion a week, with no exit strategy and no end in sight. Yet, it is not the first time a U.S. president, elected on an anti-interventionist platform, was steered into an imperial war, after absorbing a stunning, shocking blow to the nation. On Feb. 15, 1898, the battleship Maine blew up in Havana harbor, killing 268 sailors. This perceived Spanish atrocity, almost surely an accident, was seized upon by Sen. Henry Cabot Lodge and Assistant Secretary of the Navy Theodore Roosevelt to bully President McKinley into calling for a war with Spain for which they had long planned. In "First Great Triumph: How Five Americans Made Their Country a World Power," ex-ambassador Warren Zimmerman tells the compelling story of how America first became an empire. Anticipating war, T.R., on the navy secretary's day off, wired Commodore Dewey, commander of the Pacific squadron, to prepare to attack the Spanish fleet. As soon as war was declared, Dewey sailed for Manila Bay, caught the Spanish ships in the harbor and sank or burned all seven, losing but a single man. The U.S. North Atlantic Squadron did the same to the Spanish fleet sent to protect Cuba. The Spanish warships were bottled up in Santiago harbor by U.S. battleships with superior firepower. In a heroic but doomed breakout on July 3, 1898, every Spanish ship was scuttled or sunk. Madrid surrendered. After our "splendid little war," a ferocious debate erupted. It was between T.R.-Lodge imperialists who believed that for America to be secure in a world of empires, she must become an empire and annex the Philippines and anti-imperialists, or "goo-goos," who wanted to give the Filipinos their independence. Arguments for and against annexation were both strategic and racist. Said industrialist Andrew Carnegie, "As long as we remain free from distant possessions, we are impregnable against serious attack." Added progressive Carl Schurz, "Show me a single instance of the successful establishment and peaceable maintenance for a respectable period of republican institutions, based upon popular self-government, under a tropical sun." McKinley had promised Schurz, "You may be sure there will be no jingo nonsense in my administration." But he was won over by the imperialists. He ordered the Army to occupy Manila and crush Filipino rebels, who were stunned to discover their liberators had decided to replace their former colonial masters. For three years, U.S. soldiers and Marines fought, with 4,000 dying in combat, several times as many as had been lost in Cuba. Filipino combat losses were 20,000 with 200,000 civilian dead, many of disease. Yet, a recent New York Times Almanac does not even list the Filipino insurrection as a major U.S. conflict. Was it worth it annexing the Philippines? In the war to secure the islands, atrocities were committed on both sides, and as a result of that war, we became ensnared in the great power politics of Asia, out of which came Pearl Harbor, World War II, Korea and Vietnam. By annexing the islands, writes Zimmermann, America "took on a security commitment in Asia that it found difficult to defend. In the Philippine case, the founders of American imperialism may have made a costly mistake." One year after the war to avenge the sinking of the Maine in Havana, we were in an imperial war 10,000 miles away. Now, two years after Sept. 11, we are fighting a guerrilla war in a nation 6,000 miles away, that had nothing to do with 9-11. President Bush was misled about what to expect when Baghdad fell. And those who misled him now reassure him that our occupation is going well and we are mopping up the resistance. Perhaps. But, like William McKinley, George Bush may prove to be a well-intentioned president who embroiled us in decades of wars in a part of the world that was never vital to America. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and
[CTRL] Bush's scary message control
-Caveat Lector- http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story153538.html Saturday, August 09, 2003 Bush's scary message control This White House has gone beyond mastering damage control to making pre-emptive strikes that distort unfavorable information or keep it hidden from public view. THE PICTURE emerging of the Bush White House is that of a radical administration so certain of its ideological rightness that it will distort and manipulate information as needed to soothe moderates and silence critics. And beware of telling truths that stymie administration aims or contradict its spin. That offense can endanger loved ones. This latest and, to date, most chilling allegation comes from retired ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, whose wife was exposed by conservative columnist Robert Novak as a CIA operative. Novak says he got his information from senior administration officials. If so, someone high in the administration broke the law. Wilson is sure the disclosure is meant to warn off anyone who can reveal information on the administration's possible misuse of intelligence during the run-up to the Iraq war. Wilson was in a position to do so because, at the behest of the CIA, he had traveled to Niger in February 2002 to check the reliability of a document that contended Iraq was trying to buy nuclear weapons material. Wilson found no basis for the report - bad enough, from the perspective of a White House building its case for war. But Wilson ran truly afoul of the administration only last month, when he wrote an op-ed article in The New York Times that revealed both his role and the duplicity of senior administration officials in contending that only low-level intelligence officials knew of his findings. The White House was forced at last to admit that it knowingly included in President Bush's State of the Union address in January a justification for war that, in Wilson's words, was "so transparently unsubstantiable." Outing an undercover operative would escalate hardball politics to political suppression. And Wilson's frightening portrayal of an administration in which "spin" is spinning wildly out of control is all too credible. Bush shows time and again his willingness to censor, distort or simply ignore scientific evidence contrary to his policy objectives - including data on global warming, on Arctic oil drilling and wildlife, on stem-cell research, on tax cuts and budget deficits, on abortion, on condoms and "abstinence only" sex education. Democratic Rep. Henry Waxman's 40-page report detailing administration manipulations might be dismissed as partisan politics - except that, in recent months, the editors of a list of prestigious scientific journals have sounded the same alarm. Every modern president's penchant for controlling the message has metastasized during this presidency into controlling the free flow of information that is the lifeblood of a self-governing society. Bush and his advisers are heading beyond partisanship onto dangerous new ground. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/11/2003 9:09:38 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did just that but thats how I get the error messages that the address is incorrect! I believe you need to put the words SIGNOFF and CTRL into the body of the email. Did you do that? If so try substituting the word UNSUBSCRIBE for SIGNOFF. If all else fails, ask Jesus to help you. Bill. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- Unfortunately for your hardened and rebellious heart towards God you've already paved your way to spend eternity with the father of lies, Satan. Clearly you've elected not to accept or believe in God, through God's gift to all mankind... free will to choose. Scripture tells us do not cast pearls (wisdom) to swine for they will trample them under foot. God's Word also tells us that the wisdom of man is but folly to God. Enough said. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Wingate Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 8:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion -Caveat Lector- It is also written in the bible that women are unclean and should cover their heads. However, these are words of men. Everything in the Bible cannot be taken literally. Sometimes people say stupid stuff and someone writes it down. Does this mean your God has ordained this? I hope not. People are too flakey to be spokesmen for God, not that there actually is one. I challenge anyone here to prove there is God. You cannot because it does not exist. If the ET who called himself God did not like gays, it's likely because he wanted 'his people' to be fruitful and multiply. Notice he did not say be like fruit and reproduce thyself. (Sorry. ;-) Steve On 10 Aug 2003 at 20:29, Bob Cooper wrote: Suggestion: Read the entire first chapter of the book of Romans. Not only does the Word specifically condemn homosexuality/lesbianism but it also condemns those who accept it, thus approve of it as a way of life. God inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the sovereign authority to establish right morals for right living, Gods Word is inerrant and infallible. Thats enough for me. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dr. Kelly The Mysterious Electrodes
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general39/kel.htm Dr. Kelly The Mysterious Chest Electrodes By Chris Tryhorn The Guardian - UK 8-7-3 Heart experts today said it was "unusual" for someone to wear electrode pads while walking following revelations that government scientist David Kelly had four of the special monitors on his chest when his body was found in an Oxfordshire wood. Dr Kelly - the BBC's source for a report claiming the government altered the contents of a dossier about Iraq - had probably been wearing a 24-hour electro-cardiogram recorder, also known as a Holter monitor, medical experts said. But it was odd that the pads that are connected to the device had not been removed by doctors and were left attached to his chest, they said. "If I was in a morgue and his body was presented to me I would have thought it had come out of a coronary care unit or an operating theatre," said Professor Konrad Jamrozik, of Imperial College Hospital London. "It would be unusual for someone to be walking around wearing these pads," he told the press association. Another heart specialist, who declined to be named, also said it was "very unusual" for someone to be found wearing the pads. "It would suggest that at some time he had been connected to a heart monitor in a hospital or, and this is more likely, he had been connected to a 24-hour ECG recorder. "This is a small device which would record any events in the rhythm and would be returned to a hospital to be analysed." New details about Dr Kelly's physical condition emerged today when Lord Hutton opened his inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the scientist's death. Lord Hutton read from an account of the postmortem examination conducted by the pathologist, Nicholas Hunt, the day after Dr Kelly died. Dr Hunt's report revealed that Dr Kelly had been suffering from coronary artery disease, which would have hastened rather than caused his death. The pathologist believed the main cause of Dr Kelly's death was bleeding from an incision on his left wrist, Lord Hutton said. Dr Kelly had also taken off his watch and glasses before his death in an Oxfordshire wood two weeks ago, it was revealed. "The removal of the watch in this way and the removal of spectacles are features pointing to this being an act of self-harm," the pathologist wrote. To contact the MediaGuardian newsdesk email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or phone 020 7239 985 c. 2003 The Guardian www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Just a note
Title: Message -Caveat Lector- As this is the only board I've been posting to, it's interesting to note that I've been placed on an Islamic list. Ok folks, whoever you are, I'm willing to read other sides of the controversy, but I must delete anything you send me in Arabic as I don't read that language. If anyone else wants to get that mail, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I'm one of the many whose email addresses begin with Z it seems.. It's a wonderful example of how liberals, conservatives, Jews, Islamists, pagans work at getting their message out and don't just sit back and complain about what others are doing to them. While I'm very critical at reading their messages, I'm critical about all messages. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US TROOPS IN IRAQ ARE SITTING DUCKS
-Caveat Lector- http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html August 8, 2003 US TROOPS IN IRAQ ARE SITTING DUCKS Why we need to get out now August 7, 2003 A car pulls up in front of the Jordanian Embassy in Baghdad, in the early morning hours: the occupants exit, and leave the scene. Not too long after, a huge explosion decimates the area: at least 10 people are killed, with as many as 40 wounded. August 7, 1998 A pick-up truck laden with explosives pulls up in front of the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, at 10:38 a.m., and the detonation destroys the Embassy and kills hundreds. Almost simultaneously, the U.S. mission in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, is hit. The death toll is 224 persons: more than 5,000 are injured. Coincidence? Not likely. Those connections between Iraq and Al Qaeda we heard so much about in the period leading up to the invasion turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Osama bin Laden surely didn't have an Iraqi presence before the war, but he sure as heck does now. In this ironic sense, then, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz was perfectly correct the other day when he averred that "Iraq is the central battle in the war on terror." Seen from Osama bin Laden's perspective, it is. What Wolfowitz neglected to mention, however, is that the terrorists have gained a foothold in Iraq thanks to the U.S. and that Bin Laden owes his victories to our own policies. On account of the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq, Al Qaeda not only has a ready-made pool of potential recruits at its disposal, but is being provided with plenty of American targets close at hand. U.S. troops stationed in Iraq are sitting ducks for terrorists, easy pickings for suicide squads bent on wreaking as much deadly havoc as possible. The kind of war we are in was prefigured in the 1983 bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut. Ronald Reagan's wise response was to withdraw. How long before George W. Bush stands at a similar decision? It was big news that, for two days, there were no reports of U.S. combat casualties, but this relatively long silence was punctuated by the Jordanian Embassy explosion, like a period at the end of a sentence. That, and a report of two more Americans killed, should dispel any illusions about what the U.S. is up against: the war, far from winding down, is rapidly escalating. Having lured us into the dark heart of the Middle East, Osama bin Laden and his allies have U.S. soldiers right where they want them: surrounded by a hostile populace, on the defensive, and vulnerable to the low-intensity low-tech war of attrition now being waged against them. It is an unwinnable war because it has no end point. There is no light at the end of this long, dark and perilous tunnel and no good reason to crawl in there to begin with. At a certain point, the Bush administration will be faced with a stark choice: either continue to expose U.S. troops to continuous attacks in an area that is not defensible, taking casualties until public opinion at home rebels, or avoid all those needless deaths, not to mention the expense, and bring the troops home. As the casualties mount, the clock is ticking. If Wolfowitz believes that Iraq is the central arena in the war on terrorism, then perhaps he hasn't heard the warnings about Al Qaeda preparing for another attack on the U.S. mainland. While the neocons in government and their amen corner in the media are hailing our alleged success in Iraq in bringing security to most of the country, the appalling lack of security in America's airports puts us all at serious risk. Iraq has been "liberated" but who will liberate us from the "Patriot" Act, and the further efforts of Attorney General John Ashcroft to increase the already expanded power of government agents to conduct secret searches and spy on American citizens? We will free the world and enslave ourselves. It will be a fitting price to pay for our hubris. The idea that we cannot withdraw from Iraq, that such a demand is impractical, immoral, irresponsible, or what-have-you, ought to effectively end the tiff over whether or not we have got ourselves involved in a "quagmire." We are in up to our ears. Yet there is still time to pull ourselves up, and out, before the disaster unfolds, and we ought to do so as fast as humanly possible. NOTES IN THE MARGIN I received a lot of letters commenting on my last column, in which my enthusiasm for the grassroots movement Howard Dean's candidacy has generated is mistaken for adulation of the candidate himself. But the letter-writers have a point: put not your trust in politicians! The Dean campaign's burgeoning success is interesting to me as a measure of antiwar sentiment, which is quite apart from whatever positions Dean might take at any particular time. I have no doubt that Dean will disappoint many of his supporters, and that, if elected, he will prove just as amenable to the schemes of the War Party as his predecessors in the Oval Office. It
Re: [CTRL] Unatural Things In Unatural Times
Are you suggesting that they lean toward being BI_SEXUAL? On Thursday, Aug 14, 2003, at 07:47 US/Pacific, RevCOAL wrote: It seems to me that the homophobes want it both ways
[CTRL] Analysts Question Freddie's New CEO On His Role in Deals
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25708-2003Aug6?language=printer washingtonpost.com Analysts Question Freddie's New CEO On His Role in Deals Parseghian Says He Got Bad Advice By Kathleen Day and David HilzenrathWashington Post Staff WritersThursday, August 7, 2003; Page E02 Wall Street stock analysts yesterday pressed Freddie Mac's new chief executive, Gregory J. Parseghian, on why investors should trust him, given his direct involvement in designing many of the deals that led to accounting errors of as much as $4.5 billion at the McLean-based mortgage-funding giant. In a closed-door session for more than two dozen analysts at New York's Le Cirque restaurant, several grilled Parseghian, asking whether he has enough integrity to run the company and why investors should rely on his judgment after his office handled trades intended primarily to meet Wall Street's profit targets, according to analysts who attended the luncheon. "They were asking, in effect, 'Are you tainted?' " said Kenneth A. Posner of Morgan Stanley. Paul Miller of Friedman, Billings, Ramsey Group Inc. in Arlington said, "His answer was that some of these trades had marginal economic value, but that he had relied on accounting advice that turned out to be wrong." Analysts described Parseghian as someone fighting for his job and the lunch as his first attempt to, in the words of one, "come out swinging." A report to the board last month by the law firm Baker Botts LLP said Parseghian was one of the executives who approved trading strategies that, among other things, were designed to obscure the effect of an accounting rule and to meet expectations of what was known as "steady Freddie" earnings growth. In his prepared remarks, Parseghian, who ran Freddie Mac's trading and investment division until June, pledged to correct the company's financial statements, build long-term shareholder value, improve public disclosure and foster an open corporate culture. The company didn't release the details of his question-and-answer session with the analysts. Posner, Miller and others said they were satisfied with Parseghian's responses: that he said he got bad advice and that he never compromised the underlying safety and soundness of the company's business. And despite helping to execute the questionable trades, he told analysts he protested more than once to executives and to the board that focusing on quarterly earnings targets was inappropriate. "Did he defend his credibility successfully? Jury's still out, but I feel better," Posner told clients in an e-mail after the luncheon. Analysts said some investors they speak to think Parseghian should step down because his association with the manipulated earnings taints him. Other investors think he must stay, however, because he built Freddie Mac's portfolio of investments and knows it better than anyone, the analysts said. A lawyer for the company said the closed meeting didn't violate securities rules about making material information public because Freddie Mac is exempt. But Freddie behaves as if it was covered by the rules, the lawyer said. A spokesman added that company lawyers were at the luncheon to make sure that any material statements by Parseghian were made public. Among the highlights of Parseghian's remarks, analysts said, was a statement that the company expects Congress to pass a bill transferring oversight of Freddie Mac and its rival, Fannie Mae, to the Treasury Department. He also announced that that the company has hired former Securities and Exchange Commission lawyer David Martin to help the company make sure it complies with disclosure rules. Parseghian also repudiated the company's emphasis on reporting steady earnings, the hallmark of his predecessor, Leland C. Brendsel, who was forced out in June, along with President David W. Glenn, who was fired, and Chief Financial Officer Vaughn Clarke, who resigned. "I want to emphasize that we are focused on creating long-term value for shareholders, and not on short-term objectives, such as earnings targets. As CEO, I will not compromise long-term value objectives for the sake of reducing volatility in short-term earnings results," he said in his prepared remarks. Parseghian has declined most interview requests since being named chief executive. Company spokesmen have said he was too busy running the company to talk to the media. Sources close to the company said the board of directors also felt that Parseghian needed to keep a low profile, even in the face of criticism, until after being interviewed by federal investigators at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, the agency that regulates Freddie. OFHEO investigators questioned Parseghian for nearly 12 hours on Monday, sources said, and the company now plans a series of efforts to bolster Parseghian's reputation on Wall Street and with the public. The SEC and the Justice Department also are
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages
-Caveat Lector- the homophobic community has a perfect right to practice whatever flavor of superstition it wishes, but they do NOT have the right to impose their superstitious agenda upon the rest of society... Hear! Hear! They especially do not have the right to use the armed might of the state to impose it. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd...
-Caveat Lector- At 01:41 PM 08/11/2003 -0400, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- The missing link is proof that one specie changed into another. There is no fossil record to show that. You are dissembling. Many scientists are now questioning the theory of evolution because it has not been proved scientifically. It remains a theory with some facts (fossil records) yet to be found that bear it out. JR Two words that are thrown about, all too liberally these days, are : homophobe and racist . Disagree with or say anything about a homosexual or their lifestyle, you're called a homophobe. Disagree with or say anything about a black , brown or yellow person or their actions or inactions and you're called a racist (IF, you're Caucasian, that is...we're even told there can be NO colored racists). Sad Both words presume a exaggerated fear and/or hatred of perverts or non-white persons. There are, without a doubt, many out there who possess those traits. Speaking for myself, however, I fear nothing that walks, crawls, flies or slithers, breathes oxygen, eats, defecates or dies. Also, I don't hate anyone...regardless of what they are, do or believe. I may *choose* to dislike, not condone or disassociate myself with them, their actions or their beliefs, but, that is my right ( It's God-given, too). So, now that the air is cleared and the cards are face up, this is one observation.. It seems that the following list members: RevCOAL NessieSFBG William Shannon Eric Hoffman Steve Wingate Mark S. Bilk did not take, slept in class or flunked Anatomy 101 and should take a remedial course, as soon as possible. In the meantime, I think there is a site, somewhere on the Net, having to do with, How Things Work Or Are Supposed to Work, if not perverted by deviation from the normal. Here are some Keywords they might use in the Search Engine: Sexual Intercourse Human Reproduction Penis testicles prostate Vagina clitoris Uterus Womb fallopian tubes mouth tongue teeth glottis throat egg sperm fertilization intestines colon rectum anus feces defecation They may learn something ! :) JAO - Original Message - From: Nessie SFBG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showd... -Caveat Lector- When did they (the so-called scientists) find the missing link? Long ago, and they keep finding more. The fossil record, though still not complete, is more than complete enough to demonstrate the validity of the theory to any who examine the evidence objectively. This, of course, leaves out all those too befuddled by primitive, superstitious delusions. More complete is the record of mitochondrial DNA. See: http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/ingman.html Believe is what stupid people do instead of find out the truth for themselves. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceâ?not soap-boxingâ?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'â?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâ?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""> To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="" PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
[CTRL] Israels tradition of shadowy dealings
-Caveat Lector- http://www.dailystar.com.lb/13_08_03/art23.asp Israels tradition of shadowy dealings BEIRUT: The Colombian arms deal is small-time compared to some of the clandestine activities carried out by Israeli mercenaries and arms dealers in Latin America over the past three decades, as well as in Africa, Asia and Iran, currently Israels No. 1 enemy. A year ago, Germany impounded a shipment from Israel of 3,000 rubber caterpillar tracks used on US-made M-113 personnel carriers ostensibly bound for Thailand under a license from the Israeli Defense Ministry. But according to German Customs, the shipment from the Israeli company PAD was seized in Hamburg as it was being transferred to an Iranian vessel for delivery to the Islamic Republic. PADs chairman, Avihai Weinstein, and his brother-in-law Eli Cohen, had been involved in another attempt to smuggle military equipment to Iran in 2000. Cohen was arrested in the US in 1992 in a similar case, but prosecutors could only prove tax evasion. He served six months house arrested. In 1997, he was accused again of selling arms to Iran and was given a three-month suspended sentence. In 1999, he was suspected, but never indicted, of trying to sell tank engines to Iran. Israeli authorities revoked his permit to export military equipment, but that did not appear to stop him operating. There have been repeated deliveries of military equipment to Iran by private Israeli arms dealers since the 1979 Islamic revolution, the biggest being the sale of surface-to-air missiles and other weapons to Iran during the Irangate scandal of the mid-1980s. The profits from the sales under the secret White House operation, designed to secure the release of American hostages held in Lebanon, were diverted to the US-backed Contra rebels fighting the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. The disclosure of the plot almost brought down Ronald Reagans presidency. When leading Israeli arms dealer Nahum Manbar was put on trial in Tel Aviv in 1998 on charges of selling materials for making chemical weapons to Iran, his lawyers argued that these deals had been conducted with the full consent of the Defense Ministry, defense manufacturers and Israels intelligence agencies. They also claimed that dozens of other such deals with Iran involving Israelis had been conducted, but the court imposed a gagging order that kept these allegations out of the media. Manbar was sentenced to 18 years imprisonment in July 1998. These were the kind of operations that got the US Central Intelligence Agency in big trouble in the 1970s. Congress reined in the agency, but the vacuum was filled by Israeli mercenaries allegedly operating without the sanction of their government and arms dealers, invariably former soldiers with tight connections to the defense establishment, in such countries as Guatemala and Chile. When President Reagan revived the CIAs paramilitary tradition in the 1980s, he made Israel an indispensable partner in the conflicts he launched against Angola, Libya, Nicaragua and El Salvador. In 1990, an investigation conducted by authorities in the Caribbean island of Antigua by an eminent British lawyer, Louis-Blom Cooper, unraveled a conspiracy in which former Israeli soldiers shipped large consignments of weapons through the island to Colombian cocaine barons, particularly the notorious Medellin cartel run by the late Gonzalo Rodriguez Gacha, in the 1980s. They also provided mercenaries to train the cartels paramilitary death squads. According to Blom-Coopers report, $324,205 was paid for the weapons in two installments to Israel Military Industries, which is state-owned, through an account belonging to its representative, Brigadier General Pinhas Shachar. Much of the clandestine operation was run by a retired Israeli colonel, Yair Gal Klein, and his security company, Spearhead Ltd. Klein is probably one of the most active of these Israeli mercenaries. He was one of four Israelis indicted in absentia by Colombian authorities in 1998 for their connections with Gacha. In 1991, Klein was convicted by an Israeli court of illegally exporting arms to Colombia and was fined $40,000. He was arrested in Sierra Leone in January 1999 for supplying weapons to rebel forces. The Colombians requested his extradition, but as far as is known, Klein managed to wriggle his way out of Sierra Leone. His whereabouts are not known. E.E. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
[CTRL] Are Military Tribunals Worth Dying For?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fff.org/comment/com0308b.asp Are Military Tribunals Worth Dying For? by Jacob G. Hornberger, August 6, 2003 Despite the fact that the U.S. government so far is not applying military tribunals to U.S. citizens, the stakes have now gone up for the American people. What began as a life-and-death issue for the federal governments detainees at Guantanamo Bay has now been converted into a life-and-death issue for the American people. For al-Qaeda has now declared that if U.S. authorities follow though with their plan to try the detainees before military tribunals, especially for death-penalty offenses, Americans can expect more terrorist attacks akin to those of September 11. Thus, the issue of military tribunals is no longer an esoteric one for the American people. Like it or not, as a result of the new al-Qaeda threat every American has now been thrust into the middle of the intellectual, moral, legal, and political battle over the U.S. governments plan to utilize military tribunals against the Guantanamo Bay detainees. Each American must now ask himself a critical question: Are those military tribunals worth dying for and are they worth risking the lives of our friends, families, and countrymen? If the president and the Pentagon follow through with their plan and if there is another giant terrorist attack that takes the lives of thousands of Americans, I can already hear federal officials declaiming, This is an attack on our freedom and values. But they will be speaking falsely. In fact, it is the military tribunals themselves that will constitute the real attack on our freedom and values. Ask yourself: Why did U.S. officials decide to send detainees to Guantanamo Bay rather than bring them to a federal penitentiary or prison camp here in the United States? Theres one and only one reason: to avoid the principles of the U.S. Constitution and the judicial system of our country. By basing prisoners in Cuba, U.S. officials hoped to avoid due process of law, effective assistance of counsel, trial by jury, the right to summon witnesses, the right to confront witnesses, and appellate review. Federal officials wanted a place in the world where they could be a law unto themselves where they could be jailer, prosecutor, judge, and executioner and without having to answer to anyone or any law. Is that what America is all about? What better evidence of utter contempt for the Constitution, our heritage of liberty and due process of law, and our way of life? Show me a bigger attack on our freedom and values than that. One who genuinely embraced the principles of America would take a different position: We have the finest judicial system in the world, one that has been developed through centuries of arduous struggle. We take great pride in utilizing it, not only for citizens of our country but also for foreigners. And its a way of life were committed to preserving, even if it means risking our lives to terrorism or any other threat. Far from mirroring the due-process procedures set forth in the Constitution, the military tribunals will instead reflect the processes used on Fidel Castros side of Cuba, where terrorist suspects are also tried before military tribunals before biased judges and denied independent counsel, due process of law, the right to confront witnesses, the right to summon favorable witnesses, the right of trial by jury, and the right to have their convictions reviewed by independent appellate courts. It is not a coincidence that the National Criminal Defense Lawyers Association has told its 11,000 members that it would be unethical for any of them to serve as a defense attorney in the military tribunals at Guantanamo Bay. Theres still plenty of time to reverse course, which is exactly what the president and the Pentagon should do, not because of the threat that al-Qaeda has leveled against us but because the Guantanamo military tribunals will denigrate the freedom and values our nation is supposed to stand for. And thats something thats neither worth dying for nor risking the lives of others for. Mr. Hornberger is founder and president of The Future of Freedom Foundation. Send him email. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Muffling the Left: Watchdog Reveals Effort to Gag Anti-Bush Causes
from http://villagevoice.com/issues/0332/lee.php Watchdog Reveals Effort to Gag Anti-Bush Causes Muffling the Left by Chisun Lee August 6 - 12, 2003 he Bush administration is actively seeking to gag or punish social service organizations that challenge the party line on such matters as health care for poor children and HIV prevention, according to a new report. Nonprofits that disagree with the president's own solutions, or go further and blame him for problems in the first place, have come to expect unpleasant consequences. Those might include audits of federal-funds spending and reviews of content, such as workshop literature. If you disagree with the administration on ideological grounds, they're going to come down with a hammer. This has huge implications for the free flow of speech in this country, says Gary Bass, executive director of OMB Watch, itself a nonprofit, which released the report last week as part of its 20-year-old mission to monitor White House budget and spending decisions. As dramatic as that assessment sounds, the assault has been nearly invisible to the public. The Bush administration and its allies have hit progressives under the radar, maneuvering in the soporific-if enormously important-realm of nonprofit oversight. The idea of a right-wing conspiracy to audit nonprofits is more likely to set off yawns than outrage. Yet virtually every imaginable social cause-civil liberties, reproductive rights, affirmative action, accessible health care-relies on a lifeline of nonprofit advocates, fundraisers, and service providers. Since nonprofits operate on a tax-exempt basis and often receive government funding, they have always been subject to federal oversight and are forbidden from engaging in electoral politics. Under George W. Bush, however, oversight has quietly morphed into ideologically motivated intimidation and censorship, according to OMB Watch's review of some dozen specific conflicts. Even though causes of the right have their own tax-exempt advocates, conservatives have long reviled nonprofits in general for supporting the welfare state, according to Bass. He points to the major efforts to defund nonprofits and restrict their advocacy during the Reagan administration in the '80s and in Newt Gingrich's Congress in the '90s. But those were head-on, equal opportunity offensives, going after an entire genre. Under obvious attack, the nonprofits really rose up like a firestorm and survived, says Bass. The selective, stealthy approach of today is unprecedented, he says. His organization had wanted to put out the alert months ago, but piecing together the scattered developments took time. Almost every example we have here, there's a link to the Bush administration directly, not just ideologically, says Bass. Bush spokesperson Allen Abney declined to comment Monday, saying the White House had not yet thoroughly reviewed the July 28 critique. In perhaps the clearest example of the report's claims of squashed dissent, Bush's Health and Human Services Department (HHS) threatened advocates of the nonprofit Head Start-including parents and teachers of poor children-with monetary sanctions or even prosecution for speaking out against a presidential proposal. Head Start is the hardly controversial program that has promoted education and healthcare for young children nationwide since 1965. Participating providers launched a campaign earlier this year to get parents and teachers to tell Congress their concerns that standards and funding might fall with Bush's plan to decentralize the program. HHS soon began warning Head Start affiliates that their lobbying might violate nonprofit rules. This summer the National Head Start Association sued the administration, claiming it was interfering with First Amendment rights, and won. But organizers worry that the administration's warnings, wrong as they were, might have frightened many into silence. HHS began its apparent policing of protest a year earlier, when it audited over a dozen AIDS service organizations after they publicly shamed the administration at a July 2002 AIDS conference in Barcelona. There, U.S.-based advocates accused the Bush administration of cheaping out on HIV prevention and, during HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson's closely watched speech, heckled so forcefully as to drown out his entire address. Conservative members of Congress immediately demanded that HHS review the nonprofits' spending of federal funds in Spain. HHS complied. Thompson's deputy, Claude Allen, told The Washington Post at the time that advocacy groups need to think twice before preventing a Cabinet-level official from bringing a message of hope to an international forum. In an interesting but brief mention, OMB Watch also reveals that groups currently applying for federal grants to provide humanitarian relief in Iraq are required to advertise the U.S. government's generosity. Presumably, any criticism of Bush administration policy would be
[CTRL] Treasury Dept. to Refuse Senate a List of Saudi Suspects
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/05/politics/05TERR.html?pagewanted=printposition= August 5, 2003 Treasury Dept. to Refuse Senate a List of Saudi SuspectsBy TIMOTHY L. O'BRIEN he Treasury Department said yesterday that it would decline to provide the Senate with a list of Saudi individuals and organizations the federal government has investigated for possibly financing Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. The action was the second in two weeks to set the White House and Congress at odds about the Saudis and federal intelligence-gathering related to the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. Moreover, the move contradicted an assertion made on Thursday by a senior Treasury official, Richard Newcomb, who told the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee in a hearing on Saudi sponsorship of terrorism that the list was not classified and that his agency would turn it over to the Senate within 24 hours. Yesterday evening, with senators still awaiting the list, the Treasury Department advised the committee that it would soon send a letter declaring the information classified and thus unavailable to the public. "The information requested relates to ongoing U.S. government efforts to disrupt terrorist financing," Taylor Griffin, a department spokesman, said yesterday. "Public disclosure at this time would frustrate those efforts." Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican and one of two senators who asked Mr. Newcomb for the list during hearings last week, said he planned to subpoena the Treasury Department for the information if it was not released voluntarily to the Senate. "I'm in a fit to get classified information," Mr. Specter said in a telephone interview. "They may be looking at a subpoena. The guy made a commitment in an open hearing to produce it." Treasury's about-face on the list follows the White House's decision last week not to declassify 28 pages of a Congressional report on the 9/11 attacks that detailed possible Saudi involvement in the strikes. Mr. Specter and others in Congress have said the moves create the impression that Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil producer and an important American diplomatic partner, is being coddled in an effort to advance disparate American economic and foreign policy goals. "It's one thing to say that information in the 9/11 report about the Saudis is classified for national security reasons," Mr. Specter said, "but it's quite another when you're talking about a list of charities. I think these guys are losing it. We did get a commitment on this list, and even in Washington a commitment means something." For their part, senior Treasury officials and other American authorities investigating terrorism say that information they have unearthed related to Saudi sponsorship of terrorism needs to be kept secret to preserve the integrity of current federal investigations. Some of the classified sections of the 9/11 report maintain that Saudi charities linked to the kingdom's government helped to finance Qaeda operatives who masterminded the terrorist attacks, said government officials and people with knowledge of the document. Mr. Newcomb oversees the Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control, which administers economic and trade penalties to further national security. Since Sept. 11, the Treasury Department has assumed stewardship of the Policy Coordinating Committee, or P.C.C., a task force that collates terrorism information from other federal authorities including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Council and the Departments of Defense, State, Justice and Homeland Security. If these agencies jointly recommend that individuals or organizations be cited as a sponsor of terrorism, Mr. Newcomb's unit adds them to a publicly available Treasury watchlist of entities that are blocked from doing business in or with the United States. The issue in dispute is whether the names of entities not added to Treasury's list, particularly Saudi entities, can be withheld from the public. "Rick Newcomb misspoke," said one Treasury official. "The names themselves weren't classified but their status is. The fact that they have been proposed for consideration by the P.C.C. makes them classified." Mr. Newcomb, a career government official with ample Treasury experience, was unavailable for comment yesterday. But his superiors and other government officials say they are disgruntled, and not
[CTRL] Ann Coulter The NeoCon Trojan Horse
-Caveat Lector- Alex Jones Ambushes Ann coulter http://www.prisonplanet.com/coulter_07_10_03.html http://www.prisonplanet.com/coulter_07_10_03.mp3 ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/2003 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mozart The Masons
-Caveat Lector- http://www.instant-essays.com/music/mozart-death.shtml Mozart Death For the past two hundred years, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's death has been shrouded in mystery. Some say his great rival, Antonio Salieri, or the Freemasons murdered him. Others say he was simply exhausted. And some believe he died from sickness. It has been established that Mozart suffered from various illnesses, which no doubt contributed to his death. But some researchers have concluded that physical and mental exhaustion greatly affected Mozart, and contributed to his early death. These researchers claim that by cramming more work and play into one year than most people did in ten years, Mozart literally"burned himself out". The constant strain on his body forced it to succumb to the plaguing illnesses that continuously nagged at Mozarts health, and that he otherwise might have been able to withstand. It has been said that Mozart had a peculiar mental and physical lifestyle, and that he was a child who never grew up. Physically, he had childlike energy levels, and worked at an incredibly exhausting pace. The only way he knew to gain respect was to write music. An early Mozart biographer, Ignaz Arnold wrote, "No need for poison herehis powers were worn out, his constitution destroyed." He also wrote"what straining of his imagination, what constant wearing-down of his spirit, what excitement of his brain fibers! What continuous sapping of his vital life forces!" In a word: his whole life wasthe consumption of life. History shows us a host of great spirits who burned themselves out. In this passage, he is talking about the destruction of Mozarts "creative energies". He also wrote about Mozarts physical exhaustion, six piano concertos, one piano quintet, one string quartet, and two sonatas and two sets of variations for piano are listed, as well as a few smaller compositions. This enormous output was not the work of a composer writing in undisturbed peace and seclusion, but of one whose schedule included teaching obligations, as well as all kinds of other distractions of which would have been enough to make an ordinary person nervous. And all of this is more amazing considering that Mozart was sickly and frail. Despite these setbacks, he almost never slowed his pace. For years, often during sickness, Mozart continued to compose, give performances, travel, teach, and maintain a lively social life. It is clear that Mozart was always on the go, and this could not have been healthy for him, considering his physical state. I believe that his grueling schedule led to exhaustion, which, along with his illness, finally led to his death. Some people believe that the Freemasons murdered Mozart because he revealed secrets about their organization in his opera, The Magic Flute. After reading a little about this, I found no evidence that the Freemasons had anything to do with Mozarts death. In fact, I discovered that the Masons cared very much for Wolfgang and he for them, as well. Mozart joined the Freemasons in December 1784. He belonged to the lodge called Zur Wohltatigkeit, which translates into Beneficence. Freemasonry was very popular with the intellectually elite during the early 1780s. When Mozart joined the lodge, it consisted of 200 members, led by Master Ignaz von Born. Master von Born was a scientist, mineralogist, and writer, who Mozart supposedly used as a model for Sarastro, a character in The Magic Flute. Mozarts father, Leopold, and his close friend Joseph Haydn also joined the lodge, no doubt under Mozarts influence. Mozart was a dedicated member of his lodge. He wrote music for their ceremonies, including Maurerische Trauermusik (K.477), which was written for the funeral of two aristocratic members. The heavy symbolism in this piece reveals Mozarts total involvement in the Masonic theories about life and death, and their symbolic relationship to the Master Masonic Degree. He even used these theories in a letter to his father, who was then on his deathbed. The Freemasons promoted brotherhood and moral principles in their organization and in society as a whole. They looked after their "brethren", including Mozart. When Mozart was having a financial crisis, at the end of the 1780s, and could not pay his bills, Michael Puchberg, the treasurer of Mozarts lodge, loaned him a considerable amount of money to make it through. Puchberg was a close friend of Mozarts, and after Mozart died, he waited until Mozarts wife, Costanze, had regained her financial stability before asking for repayment. Upon his death, the lodge published a speech held at the funeral ceremony in Mozarts honor. They also printed one of his last pieces, Kleine Freymaurer-Kantate in score for Costanzes benefit. Antonio Salieri was the court composer in Austria. Shortly after Mozarts death, gossip spread that in great envy, he murdered Mozart. In his last years, Salieri even confessed to killing Mozart, but he was very ill, and his ramblings were
[CTRL] A Politically Correct War?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html August 11, 2003 A POLITICALLY CORRECT WAR? Condi Rice says youre a 'racist' if you dont support the 'liberation' of Iraq Lying propaganda continues to gush from the Bush administration, like vomit from a drunk. The latest comes courtesy of Condoleezza Rice, the President's national security chief and a woman who, in any other circumstances, would have been out on her ear, but in this clueless administration maintains a highly visible role. Speaking before the National Association of Black Journalists, her latest outrage is accusing critics of the President's war policy of "racism." Invoking the history of the civil rights movement, and the 1963 bombing of a black church in Birmingham, Alabama, Condi's rendition of Al Sharpton's race-baiting act was even better than the original: "Knowing what we know about the difficulties of our own history, let us always be humble in singing freedom's praises. But let our voice not waver in speaking out on the side of people seeking freedom. And let us never indulge the condescending voices who allege that some people are not interested in freedom or aren't ready for freedom's responsibilities. That view was wrong in 1963 in Birmingham and it is wrong in 2003 in Baghdad." Forget Niger uranium, Iraq's nonexistent role in 9/11, and those missing WMD this may be the biggest lie of all. Condi's fanciful fib, weirdly inverting history, must have provoked more than a few guffaws. In the Condi Rice school of revisionist history, the antiwar movement of the 1960s did not come out of the civil rights movement, and, furthermore, the segregationists and their hero, George Wallace, didn't disdain the protestors as Commie-pinko-hippie-queers. The condescending saviors of the Bush administration couldn't wait for the Iraqi people to seek and win their own freedom. Now they stand guard over a conquered province, delaying free elections until the Iraqis are "ready." Washington rightly fears a truly democratic election will sweep radical Islamists into power, inaugurating a Shi'ite Muslim "republic" in the southern region of the country and leading to the break-up of Iraq along ethnic lines. American blacks are in no way analogous to Iraqis: after all, the former are, in spite of George Wallace's heirs and the Africanist rantings of "black nationalists," Americans, while the latter are foreigners. One wonders why this even has to be pointed out. Iraqis didn't fight in the American Revolution, but blacks did, as schoolchildren are ceaselessly reminded. The Iraqis didn't have a Jefferson, or a George Washington: their Founders were in the British Foreign Office, ours rose up in rebellion against that Office and established the first enduring constitutional republic on earth. Not that this would much impress Ms. Rice, who clearly has it in for the Founders, as she makes clear in her remarks: "But Democracy is not easy. Our own histories should remind us that the union of democratic principle and practice is always a work in progress. When the Founding Fathers said "We the People," they did not mean us. Our ancestors were considered three-fifths of a person. America has made great strides to overcome its birth defects but the struggle has been long and the cost has been high." The lies just keep coming. That the historic compromise reached by the Constitutional Convention was motivated by contempt for blacks is another of Ms. Rice's "revisionist" bon mots. However, this left-wing fairy tale is not only a myth, long a staple of anti-Americana, it is certainly an odd way for an ostensibly conservative administration to justify its foreign policy. Ms. Rice no doubt sincerely believes that the Constitutional Convention was the moral equivalent of a cross-burning, but history tells a different story. In the face of a threat by the Southern states to go off on their own, the convention took no position on the slavery question, neither recognizing it nor forbidding it. As Garet Garrett pointed out in The American Story (1956): "The Constitutional Convention took refuge in the hopeful position that in time slavery would disappear of itself, provided it were left to states. In that mood the Convention performed the first great feat of documentary ambiguity in our history. The Constitutoin recognized slavery in an oblique manner without accepting it, and it never once used either the word slave or Negro. It referred instead to 'persons held to service or labor.'" Rice draws a portrait of the Founders familiar to the inmates of our universities, where an atmosphere of political correctness is all-pervasive and strictly enforced: they were white slave-owning property-owning men, and therefore evil to the max. How, then, did they come to found the freest nation on earth? Ms. Rice never does get around to explaining that conundrum. But her complaint about blacks being gerrymandered out of their full person-hood is
[CTRL] Sharon To Peres: We Control America
http://www.mediamonitors.net/khodr49.html Sharon to Peres: "We Control America" Congressional Pandering to Israel proves him Right by Mohamed Khodr On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. News reported that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us. "Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America." "The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate." -- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation". "I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews. terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country" -Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff The long history of bipartisan Congressional support for Israel led former Secretary of State James Baker to call the Congress "The Little Knesset" after Israel's Knesset (parliament) in Jerusalem. Congress's embarrassing and unpatriotic display of allegiance to a foreign country that is dependent on American largesse and support is the unknown scandal to the American people. With the media's strong, biased and sympathetic portrayal of Israel while simultaneously denying any opposing view of Israel or human pictures and stories of the endless suffering of Palestinians, its no wonder that we the American people are so unaware of the true face of Israel. Thus shockingly but not surprisingly only 4 % of the American people are aware of Israel's 34 year brutal military occupation of the Palestinian people. Only at times of war and threat upon the U.S. does our Senate ever exhibit the strong bipartisanship support of America it regularly provides Israel. Despite our current crisis in airline security, Congressional political bickering continued for weeks between Republicans and Democrats placing American lives at risk while foreign aid to Israel was quick and automatic (about $6 Billion), even at a time the Congress is telling us of budget deficits and lack of money for the unemployed American workers. As an American I am outraged at the blind historical allegiance our Senators have provided Israel while they neglect many of our pressing domestic issues such as airline security, Social Security and Medicare Reform, Education Reform, Health Insurance for needy Americans, Money for Dilapidated Schools, and Prescription Coverage for our Elderly. Our Congress operates on the premise that most Americans are disinterested in foreign policy thus they have a vacuum to provide Israel with blank checks and our latest F-16 fighter jets that Israel uses to kill Palestinian civilians. They depend on our media to keep us uninformed and distracted with Sports, Harry Potter, and scandals. During America's war on terrorism, President Bush and Secretary Powell have worked hard to keep a fragile coalition among the 55 Arab and Muslim nations. To do that they've finally listened to British Prime Minister Tony Blair, other European and Arab leaders and reengaged in the MidEast peace process. Bush has ignored the Israeli Palestinian conflict since taking office thus allowing Sharon to reconquer and reinvade Palestinian territories during this Intifada that has cost over 800 Palestinian lives and 175 Israeli lives with hundreds of Palestinian homes demolished. For the first time Bush uttered the word a "Palestinian state" (is it conceivable that the President of the most powerful nation on earth doesn't even dare utter these two words). Powell has repeatedly criticized Israel for its assassination policy, its house demolitions, its invasion of Palestinian controlled territory, while he and Bush have repeatedly asked Sharon to pull out of Palestinian territory, Sharon simply ignored them and even compared them to Nazi appeasers. None of Sharon's rebuttals of the American President during this crisis even generated any criticism from our brave Congress. No one can imagine any other country able to tell its benefactor "take your demands and shove it." Now the stage is set for the much awaited Powell speech, a new initiative on the Middle East on Monday, November 19, in Kentucky. It's been billed as a historic speech. According to the
[CTRL] Condoleeza Rice Warned Willie Brown Not To Fly On 9-11
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/08/1634286.php Condoleeza Rice Warned Willie Brown Not To Fly On 9-11 by Brasscheck Monday August 11, 2003 at 02:42 PM Bush administration foreknowledge of 9-11 hijackings confirmed by condoleezza Rice herself. August 10, 2003 Grasping a straws and closing a loop "Condoleezza Rice, the most senior black woman in the Bush administration, has levelled a charge of racism against critics of the US drive to bring Western freedoms to the Middle East." http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2FC34B85 That's the grasping at straws part. But wait. There's more. Did this former Chevron (San Francisco) employee got this new rhetorical tactic from San Francisco mayor Willie Brown, who has managed to turn every scandal there into an issue of race? SF Election fraud? White people don't want blacks to have an expensive, disruptive, mafia owned football stadium in their overtaxed, under served neighborhood. Off duty cops robbing and beating citizens? White people who complain don't want a black police chief to succeed. Rice has a lot of deep official SF connections besides Chevron: Charles Schwab, San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors, Transamerica Corporation, KQED. Trivia question: What mayor of a major west coast city claimed just hours after 9-11 that he'd been warned not to fly the week of 9-11 by what he described as his 'airport security.' None other than Willie Brown! Details: http://propagandamatrix.com/willie_brown_got_low_key_early_warning.html http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/12/MN229389.DTL Think about it. Where else on earth would Brown get the message not to fly on a particular day? The airport says there was no advisory in place. Note that when asked, Brown clammed up as to the source. Why? Searching... Turns out my hunch ain't a news flash. Just the sussing out of a significant, but very obscure piece of 9-11 trivia. On May 17, 2002, Pacifica Radio reported that Rice was the source of the call to Brown. See side bar: http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/05/Bush_knew2.html So in case you missed it: THE ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY AFFAIRS CONDOLEEZZA RICE CALLED A FRIEND THE DAY BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11TH AND TOLD HIM TO STAY OUT OF THE AIR THAT WEEK Got that? San Francisco historians take note. The city elite found yet another way to be involved first hand in the reaming of the Republic. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] $20,000 Bonus To Bush Yes Man
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34042 $20,000 bonus to official who agreed on nuke claim Energy Dept. honcho ordered dissenters at Iraq pre-briefing to 'shut up, sit down' Posted: August 12, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Paul Sperry 2003WorldNetDaily.com WASHINGTON A former Energy Department intelligence chief who agreed with the White House claim that Iraq had reconstituted its defunct nuclear-arms program was awarded a total of $20,500 in bonuses during the build-up to the war, WorldNetDaily has learned. Thomas Rider, as acting director of Energy's intelligence office, overruled senior intelligence officers on his staff in voting for the position at a National Foreign Intelligence Board meeting at CIA headquarters last September. His officers argued at a pre-briefing at Energy headquarters that there was no hard evidence to support the alarming Iraq nuclear charge, and asked to join State Department's dissenting opinion, Energy officials say. Rider ordered them to "shut up and sit down," according to sources familiar with the meeting. As a result, State was the intelligence community's lone dissenter in the key National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, something the Bush administration is quick to remind critics of its prewar intelligence. So far no banned weapons have been found in Iraq to confirm its charges. The secret 90-page report, prepared Oct. 1, was rushed to sway members of Congress ahead of a key vote on granting the White House war-making authority. It also formed the underlying evidence for the White House's decision to go to war. Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham gave Rider a $13,000 performance bonus after the NIE report was released and just before the war, department sources say. He had received an additional $7,500 before the report. "That's a hell of a lot of money for an intelligence director who had no experience or background in intelligence, and who'd only been running the office for nine months," said one source who requested anonymity. "Something's fishy." Rider declined to talk about the payments. "I'm really not going to talk about my personal life," he told WorldNetDaily. Rider, a long-time human resources bureaucrat, served nine months as acting director of Energy's intelligence office. He stepped down in February, the month before the war. Energy officials say Rider rubber-stamped the administration's conclusion that Baghdad was reactivating a nuclear weapons program over the objections of Energy's nuclear weapons research labs and senior members of his own staff. "He was doing their bidding," asserted an Energy official who also wished to remain nameless. Oddly, Energy headquarters signed on to the hawkish position on Iraq nukes even though Energy's labs debunked the centerpiece of its evidence that the thick-walled aluminum tubes it sought were more likely intended for artillery rockets than gas centrifuges used to enrich uranium for nuclear bombs. With Rider and Energy on board, the vote for the position that Baghdad had restarted its defunct nuclear program was a nearly unanimous 5-1, with the other supporting votes cast by CIA, Defense Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency and the National Imagery and Mapping Agency. Without it, the vote would have been a less-convincing 4-2, which was the vote on the aluminum tubes (both Energy and State dissented). The difference is not lost on the administration, which is quick to point out Energy's acceptance of the hawkish line. Energy's vote on the nuclear allegation was critical, because the department is viewed as the final arbiter of technical disputes regarding nuclear-proliferation issues. "It is noteworthy that although DOE [Department of Energy] assessed that the tubes probably were not part of Iraq's nuclear program, DOE agreed that reconstitution was under way [emphasis in the original]," CIA Director George Tenet said in a four-page statement defending the NIE on Iraq. It was published Sunday in the Washington Post. But officials in Energy's intelligence office were at odds with Rider, and did not agree that the program was being reconstituted, sources say. In fact, they agreed with the State Department's view that the nuclear case against Baghdad was weak. "Senior folks in the office wanted to join INR on the footnote, and even wanted to write it with them, so the footnote would have read, 'Energy and INR,'" one official said. "But when they were arguing about it at the pre-brief, Rider told them to 'shut up and sit down.'" INR, State's intelligence office, not only shot down the tubes theory, but called "inadequate" other evidence used to support the view that Baghdad was trying to acquire nuclear arms. "The activities we have detected do not add up to a compelling case that Iraq is currently pursuing what INR would consider to be an integrated and comprehensive approach to acquire nuclear weapons," it
[CTRL] ADL Calls For Censorship (What's new?)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS_12/4291_12.htm ADL Concerned Mel Gibson's 'Passion' Will Fuel Anti-Semitism if Released in Present Form New York, NY, August 11, 2003 After having attended a private screening of Mel Gibson's new film, "The Passion," the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today voiced concerns that the film, if released in its present form, "will fuel hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism" by reinforcing the notion of collective Jewish guilt for the death of Jesus.An ADL representative was present at a private screening of "The Passion" at the Museum of Fine Arts in Houston, Texas. "The film unambiguously portrays Jewish authorities and the Jewish mob as the ones responsible for the decision to crucify Jesus," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "We are deeply concerned that the film, if released in its present form, will fuel the hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism that many responsible churches have worked hard to repudiate." The version of Gibson's film, as previewed by Rabbi Eugene Korn, ADL Director of Interfaith Affairs, contained a number of troubling themes and images, all raising the specter of "deicide," or Jewish complicity in the death of Jesus. "Sadly, the film contains many of the dangerous teachings that Christians and Jews have worked for so many years to counter," said Rabbi Korn. "This is not a disagreement between the Jews and Mr. Gibson. Many theologically informed Catholics and Protestants have expressed the same concerns regarding anti-Semitism, and that this film may undermine Christian-Jewish dialogue and could turn back the clock on decades of positive progress in interfaith relations." "We hope that Mr. Gibson and Icon Productions will consider modifying 'The Passion,' so that the film will be one that is historically accurate, theologically sound and free of any anti-Semitic message," said Mr. Foxman. ADL's concerns include: - The film portrays Jewish authorities and the Jewish "mob" as forcing the decision to torture and execute Jesus, thus assuming responsibility for the crucifixion. - The film relies on sinister medieval stereotypes, portraying Jews as blood-thirsty, sadistic and money-hungry enemies of God who lack compassion and humanity. - The film relies on historical errors, chief among them its depiction of the Jewish high priest controlling Pontius Pilate - The film uses an anti-Jewish account of a 19th century mystical anti-Semitic nun, distorts New Testament interpretation by selectively citing passages to weave a narrative that oversimplifies history, and is hostile to Jews and Judaism. - The film portrays Jews who adhere to their Jewish faith as enemies of God and the locus of evil. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
