Re: [CTRL] Daniel Pearl Video
Bill: Oh, like the occasional winces at the beginning of every line of his statement? He looked mighty animated to me. During the beheading he was inanimate... Clearly he was lucid and well-spoken during his speech and I didn't see him wince. Methinks you see what you want to see. Of course! Methinks EVERYONE sees what they wish to see. That's why it helps to focus only on the facts. The facts are that BOTH sides have committed horrendous acts against each other and against innocent people. In all seriousness, neither would I. Now, who are the hoaxers? I have no idea. Surely you can speculate. Follow the money if nothing else. Yes, interesting how a non-combatant American journalist is made to pay for Israeli crimes. Add unjust, cruel and cowardly to my list of epithets :-) If indeed he did pay for Israeli crimes that is wrong...and your epithets would be apt. Thank you! That was my point. The same would be true of Israelis under similar circumstances. No, but there's no point to such a charade on their behalf either. What's the pay-off for having the rest of the world thinking they are barbarians (assuming the hoax was perpetrated by Muslim extremists in Pakistan or elsewhere)? Perhaps the hoax, if it is one, was done w/ CIA complicity...I don't know. It seems to have whipped YOU into an anti-Arab frenzy! Murder of innocents sends me into a frenzy. Race or religion actually has very little to do with it. Religious extremism of any flavor, on the other hand, has everything to do with it. Edward + UFOs exist. It's the Air Force that's only in science fiction.~GB+ http://www.global-connector.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reality_pump/
Re: [CTRL] Daniel Pearl Video
-Caveat Lector- The question is, was Pearl an Israeli agent? If so, his treatment is not that shocking considering the nasty games that are played by Intelligence and CounterIntelligence. These guys consider themselves at war - and in war gruesome atrocities are par for the course. American, Arab, Israeli, Russian agents have all suffered cruel fates over the years - and caused much suffering in return. Torture and murder are part of the game. The average American doesn't have a clue (nor does he want one) about the horrific crimes carried out by the US govt - and most other govts on a regular basis. I still don' t understand how a worldly, experienced major league reporter would be so naive as to blindly wonder into a trap - even though he was warned beforehand. Pearl had to know that it was likely that the dangerous elements he was dealing with probably knew of his families' Israeli governmental connection. Makes one wonder if he did not have an undisclosed agenda. The lies, betrayals, double and triple crosses played on that level make even American politicians seem honest and forthcoming. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Daniel Pearl Video
In a message dated 5/29/02 1:24:36 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The video you will find at the following address is, to say the very least, unpleasant and graphic in nature. Be advised that neither the FBI or the Pearl family wish for you to see this video. The video contains mere seconds of violence towards Pearl but is pretty well produced for a few 3rd world extremists. Pearl makes good points in his speech though...wonder if he believed what he was saying. Thanks for the link! Bill.
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Bill: The video you will find at the following address is, to say the very least, unpleasant and graphic in nature. Be advised that neither the FBI or the Pearl family wish for you to see this video. The video contains mere seconds of violence towards Pearl. . . Yeah, mere seconds of a man's head being cut off. So much for the peaceful religion of Islam, huh? :-) but is pretty well produced for a few 3rd world extremists. Considering the funding they receive from Americans via their dependence on the Arab oil tit, I'm surprised it wasn't produced in Technicolor with Dolby Surround Sound. Pearl makes good points in his speech though... Yep, after being tortured for hours, he admitted to he and his family being Jewish. Everything else from beginning to end was torture induced horse shit. wonder if he believed what he was saying. Would you after the same treatment for the same length of time. Nuclear evaporation is too good for those Islamic cock suckers. Thanks for the link! No problem. I live for turning folks away from their delusions. :-) Edward + UFOs exist. It's the Air Force that's only in science fiction.~GB+ http://www.global-connector.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reality_pump/
Re: [CTRL] Daniel Pearl Video
In a message dated 5/29/02 8:21:20 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, "mere seconds" of a man's head being cut off. So much for the "peaceful" religion of Islam, huh? :-) So only Muslims behead people? Was it a Muslim who nearly beheaded Nicole Simpson? Were Muslims running the guillotine in France? Considering the funding they receive from Americans via their dependence on the Arab oil tit, I'm surprised it wasn't produced in Technicolor with Dolby Surround Sound. Kinda like the funding so-called Israel recieves from us in order to maim, torture and kill Palestinian children and women?? Yep, after being tortured for hours, he admitted to he and his family being Jewish. Everything else from beginning to end was torture induced horse shit. I'm not sure how you know he was "tortured for hours"...were you there? Or are you taking this on faith? And frankly what he was saying near the end rings quite true and is the feelings of the majority of the world and many Americans of all ends of the political spectrum, possibly including Pearl. Would you after the same treatment for the same length of time. Nuclear evaporation is too good for those "Islamic" cock suckers. Again how exactly do you know how he was treated before his death? And actually that death scene looked not a little fake, like a movie, and since you claim they are so well funded I wonder how we know that was even real? Perhaps Pearl is living the high life away from his less than attractive wife in the UAE or somewhere... And your sophmoric kneejerk nuclear answer is tiresome. I bet you fly an oversized American flag from the back of your pick-up truck too eh? Bill.
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Bill: Yeah, mere seconds of a man's head being cut off. So much for the peaceful religion of Islam, huh? :-) So only Muslims behead people? What's this so crap? I never suggested anything of the kind. Was it a Muslim who nearly beheaded Nicole Simpson? Were Muslims running the guillotine in France? Nope, just more fundy fruit pies. We've been down this road before, Bill. Considering the funding they receive from Americans via their dependence on the Arab oil tit, I'm surprised it wasn't produced in Technicolor with Dolby Surround Sound. Kinda like the funding so-called Israel At least Israel has an historical claim to it's land. The Palestinians do not. We've been down this road before too, and I'm STILL waiting for your evidence to the contrary. :-) recieves from us in order to maim, torture and kill Palestinian children and women?? And as long as the animalistic scum keep blowing up malls full of innocent people, I'd give the Israelis even more money for the job if I had it. Yep, after being tortured for hours, he admitted to he and his family being Jewish. Everything else from beginning to end was torture induced horse shit. I'm not sure how you know he was tortured for hours...were you there? Take a look at the video again. Watch his body movements as he speaks. Also, you might note the fact that he was dead prior to having his throat slit and his head cut off. Or are you taking this on faith? Watch the video again. This time, put your sniveling crusade for those poor Palestinians aside and watch (as) objectively (as you can). And frankly what he was saying near the end rings quite true and is the feelings of the majority of the world and many Americans of all ends of the political spectrum, possibly including Pearl. This (non-interference on the part of the USA in the affairs of ANY other nation) is my sentiment as well, but I don't go around chopping people's heads off, blowing up buses and/or flying planes into buildings to make my point. Would you after the same treatment for the same length of time. Nuclear evaporation is too good for those Islamic cock suckers. Again how exactly do you know how he was treated before his death? And actually that death scene looked not a little fake, like a movie, and since you claim they are so well funded I wonder how we know that was even real? Perhaps Pearl is living the high life away from his less than attractive wife in the UAE or somewhere... You've been snorting those government mind control rays again, haven't you? Maybe Pearl is flying around in Elvis' UFO. :-) And your sophmoric kneejerk nuclear answer is tiresome. And you can get over it too, can't you? :-) I bet you fly an oversized American flag from the back of your pick-up truck too eh? No pick-up, and a small magnetic one about the size of an index card. Try again :-) Edward + UFOs exist. It's the Air Force that's only in science fiction.~GB+ http://www.global-connector.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reality_pump/
Re: [CTRL] Daniel Pearl Video
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/29/02 8:21:20 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yep, after being tortured for hours, he admitted to he and his family being Jewish. Everything else from beginning to end was torture induced horse shit. I'm not sure how you know he was tortured for hours...were you there? Or are you taking this on faith? And frankly what he was saying near the end rings quite true and is the feelings of the majority of the world and many Americans of all ends of the political spectrum, possibly including Pearl. Interestingly enough, Daniel Pearl's wife said that he was sympathetic to the Palestinean people and was concerned about the marginalization of Muslims. This would seem to ring true, at least according to what he has written for the WSJ. Would you after the same treatment for the same length of time. Nuclear evaporation is too good for those Islamic cock suckers. Again how exactly do you know how he was treated before his death? And actually that death scene looked not a little fake, like a movie, and since you claim they are so well funded I wonder how we know that was even real? Perhaps Pearl is living the high life away from his less than attractive wife in the UAE or somewhere... I disagree that she is less than attractive ... but I digress. Anyway, all I can add is - nuke over a billion people based on their religion? Round up all the Muslims here in the US and execute them? Makes the Holocaust look miniscule ... and we would *surely* be nuked back. It would pretty much be the end of all of us, or most of us. Of course, India and Pakistan may take care of that without us lobbing the first nuclear warhead. Pakistan has first strike perogative according to their policy, but India has a lot more warheads, according to Jane's. Whoops, digressing again ... - jt A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Daniel Pearl Video
In a message dated 5/29/02 9:03:03 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Take a look at the video again. Watch his body movements as he speaks. Also, you might note the fact that he was dead prior to having his throat slit and his head cut off. Oh I noted that he was inanimate and I've seen similar scenes in Fulci films from 20+ years ago...I wouldn't be at all surprised if this turns out to be a big hoax. Watch the video again. This time, put your sniveling crusade for those poor "Palestinians" aside and watch (as) objectively (as you can). Sorry but the nifty editing of Israeli atrocities are what really catch my eye. If they have the know-how to edit like that they certainly also have the ability to create a semi-realistic looking fake death scene a' la the aforementioned Fulci or Argento or Lamberto Bava...it isn't rocket science. This (non-interference on the part of the USA in the affairs of ANY other nation) is my sentiment as well, but I don't go around chopping people's heads off, blowing up buses and/or flying planes into buildings to make my point. But you do go around parroting the corporate/Zionist press as if it were gospel. You've been snorting those government mind control rays again, haven't you? Maybe Pearl is flying around in Elvis' UFO. :-) Yup, it's just gotta' be true if the media says it is, right? Whatever... Bill.
Re: [CTRL] Daniel Pearl Video
Bill: Take a look at the video again. Watch his body movements as he speaks. Also, you might note the fact that he was dead prior to having his throat slit and his head cut off. Oh I noted that he was inanimate and I've seen similar scenes in Fulci films from 20+ years ago... Oh, like the occasional winces at the beginning of every line of his statement? He looked mighty animated to me. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this turns out to be a big hoax. In all seriousness, neither would I. Now, who are the hoaxers? Watch the video again. This time, put your sniveling crusade for those poor Palestinians aside and watch (as) objectively (as you can). Sorry but the nifty editing of Israeli atrocities are what really catch my eye. Yes, interesting how a non-combatant American journalist is made to pay for Israeli crimes. Add unjust, cruel and cowardly to my list of epithets :-) If they have the know-how to edit like that they certainly also have the ability to create a semi-realistic looking fake death scene a' la the aforementioned Fulci or Argento or Lamberto Bava...it isn't rocket science. No, but there's no point to such a charade on their behalf either. What's the pay-off for having the rest of the world thinking they are barbarians (assuming the hoax was perpetrated by Muslim extremists in Pakistan or elsewhere)? This (non-interference on the part of the USA in the affairs of ANY other nation) is my sentiment as well, but I don't go around chopping people's heads off, blowing up buses and/or flying planes into buildings to make my point. But you do go around parroting the corporate/Zionist press as if it were gospel. I go on about humanity's inhumanity as a matter of routine. My rants haven't spared Israel in the past, nor, most notably, have they spared the US government. It just so happens that my *current* ire is focused on Islamic nut sacks. You've been snorting those government mind control rays again, haven't you? Maybe Pearl is flying around in Elvis' UFO. :-) Yup, it's just gotta' be true if the media says it is, right? Or if you read it on a conspiracy list, right (back at ya)? :-) Whatever... That's the spirit! :-) Edward + UFOs exist. It's the Air Force that's only in science fiction.~GB+ http://www.global-connector.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reality_pump/
Re: [CTRL] Daniel Pearl Video
In a message dated 5/29/02 9:41:51 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, like the occasional winces at the beginning of every line of his statement? He looked mighty "animated" to me. During the beheading he was inanimate... Clearly he was lucid and well-spoken during his speech and I didn't see him wince. Methinks you see what you want to see. In all seriousness, neither would I. Now, who are the hoaxers? I have no idea. Yes, interesting how a non-combatant American journalist is made to pay for Israeli "crimes." Add unjust, cruel and cowardly to my list of epithets :-) If indeed he did "pay for Israeli crimes" that is wrong...and your epithets would be apt. No, but there's no point to such a charade on their behalf either. What's the pay-off for having the rest of the world thinking they are barbarians (assuming the hoax was perpetrated by Muslim extremists in Pakistan or elsewhere)? Perhaps the hoax, if it is one, was done w/ CIA complicity...I don't know. It seems to have whipped YOU into an anti-Arab frenzy! Bill.
