From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why not offer to assist and take part in the sit-in?
One way of guaranteeing entry and making your point -
they can't operate without range staff.
Regards
Jerry
--
I'm personally not in favour of doing anything that would
actually stop the
From: Don Baldwin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I make no apologies for being unpleasant to an American who tries to impose
his values on my country.
Discussing views with fellow gun owners is "imposing my views"?
Sorry if I bruised your self esteem there, mate.
Is it because everytime an American
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't dope (marijuana, cannabis, grass) banned
in the USA in 1937 within twelve weeks because Philip Morris, the ciggie
makers,and others had formed a cartel and started market research to market
'reefers' nationwide?
As Jonathan has
From: Don Baldwin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can see where you are coming from but these aren't
very good examples. Set belts have little red buttons to
push to release them and I doubt very much that a Knife
or a pepper spray wil have a very swift effect on a Pit Bull.
Besides which you can
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actually the Japanese aircraft carriers were deliberately
built with the island the 'wrong' side of the ship. The
idea was to operate the carriers in groups with
contra-rotating air groups but the theory didn't work and
the carriers were later
From: "Tim Jeffreys", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
. One thing I
do want to say here is that gun crime may have not been
a problem pre-1920, but heroin abuse was, why was it
banned in the first place? Why did the Chinese go to
war to stop it being imported?
If I recall my agricultural and medicinal
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IG you are as socially inept as you are legally.
Well well well.
What a comment form someone who uses the prehistoric American police concept
of justifiable use of a firearm. AOJ.
My God. That died a death in the 60's!
I still have an old black and white training
From: Don Baldwin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why should someone who had 24 hr police protection need a gun for self
defence?
On the off chance that the VIP does have a chance to take
action in self defense.
Yes, very true. So are we thinking more in terms of, say, a house burglar?
Look at the
From: "John Daragon", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I said :
These things are *directly*
the result of proscription and absolutely *nothing* to do either with the
pharmacological affect of the drugs nor of the rave culture.
That no-one in mainstream politics or the Civil Service appears to be able
to
From: "W. Grint.", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve,
Thank you for your warning about the virus. One other
pest to beware of is the "Bulletin Boarder". This person
has no other interest or hobby than answering bulletin
boards. I noticed this breed at the general election, and
in hunting debates. The BB
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do we prove the theory that the reason people "bear left" because of it
being the "shield side" of the body? By means of the Sherlock Homes
methodonce you have eliminated all other possibilities, that which
remains, however improbable, can be the only answer.
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Norwegian Prime Minister.
Heh, got ya IG it was the Swedish PM. He was shot in
Stockholm when returning with his wife from the Cinema
one evening, a bloke walked out from a side Street and
killed him with a .357, he didn't have any body guards
with him at the
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IG,
Look what I dug up... The mysterious missing page! This is ancient history,
though no-one else got it all. I can't send it you on my revoked FAC because
as you know, they aren't returned to the previous owner, and besides, I
don't have your address.
From: "pendrous", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve,
As a practicing NRA RO and therefore responsible for the Safety
of the Public and competitors during shooting, I understand that the MOD
Army have introduced new range safety rules. As it is important I know what
these are, where can I get
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And how did they prove that theory?
One of the early American carriers had the island on the left, it
had a far higher degree of accidents than its compatriots. It's
one of the first examples of using human factors in design.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ananova, 29/11/00
Canadian police believe an eight-year-old boy has stalked a neighbour
through woods with his father's hunting rifle before shooting him twice in
the chest.
Jean-Guy Roy, 64, is in critical but stable condition in hospital in Ottawa,
but relatives say
From: Don Baldwin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3. We do not slavishly applaud or emulate everything that comes from America
- this is pure fantasy on your part. But since America is a more violent
society, in both absolute and relative terms, than our own (with the usual
caveats about it depending
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ananova, 29/11/00
A Canadian boy who was taunted by bullies has admitted to making a hit-list
of his tormentors with details of how many bullets it would take to kill
them.
The 15-year-old has been ordered to undergo psychiatric assessment and
counselling and put on
From: Norman Bassett, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A CORRECTION to my last posting. The Peace of
Brest-Litovsk was signed on 3 March 1918, not in 1917
as I stated. The peace negotiations started after the
Bolshevik Revolution of 17 November 1917 (it's called
the "October" Revolution because that was the
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is an interesting series of articles on Columbine.
http://www.usatoday.com/hphoto.htm
Particularly interesting is the attitude of parents who are more afraid of
their children being harmed in school even though the other figures show a
decrease in school deaths
From: "niel fagan", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "IG", INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, I'll take up that challenge, as you might expect
Why should someone who had 24 hr police protection need a gun
for self defence
IG
Following your argument then, we the tax payers, are having
vast sums of OUR
From: Norman Bassett, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is from IG to me privately and posted here with
his permission:
"NB: The Great War's history IS available, but not
very easily. Part of it is the UK police force's work
as government bully-boys strike-breaking from mid-1916
to the end of the Great
From: "Kay, Martin (DEI)", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"It may surprise him to know we used our handguns for sport as well."..
"Well the reasoning of someone who can say he thinks shotguns are
okay for sport but handguns aren't is obviously a bit strange.".
Are you not in danger of being
From: SADW, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My comments about 'national maturity' relate to the undeniable fact that
many Americans believe the groundrules of the pioneer age still apply, and
the 'visceral gene' means many tend to shoot first and ask questions
afterwards, both figuratively and literally,
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
suggest you join the NRA of America, IG, and read the Armed
Citizen column.
Try, "more Guns less crime" by John Lott. I've got a copy
you can borrow if you want.
Jonathan Laws
--
The problem with that book is that you need a degree in
statistical analysis to
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doesnt alter my own opinion that there are some people who should not be
allowed near to any form of weapon, even though they have not been
convicted
of any offence.
IG,
Quite so. The Firearms Act of 1920 and subsequent amending legislation
have
From: "Ron Rosenfeld", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mick North has my deepest sympathy for both his losses in
recent years. Neither would have been easy to cope with
and I am sure that losing both your loved ones in so short
a period of time would have devastated even the hardiest
of us.
I was on the
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So the answer to your question is yes, I'd be "happy" for this guy
to own
guns, if I was secure in the knowledge that he was hugely outnumbered by
ordinary - but armed - citizens, a situation that used to obtain in this
country pre-WW1 but which is now reversed,
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You're talking about bodyguards being ineffective, which if anything
only bolsters the argument for the intended victim to be armed. If
the Queen had had a pistol in a holster, she could have shot back.
Not if she was lying on the pavement leaking blood all
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The 'Hollywood goon' 90 degree style of pistol shooting irritates the hell
out of me. I was delighted the other night when a character in a film on Sky
took the mickey out of the technique.
Just wish I could remember the name of the film.
Barry Woodward
From: "Tim Jeffreys", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good thread.
Any presentation of ideas, commercial, academic or otherwise, loses its
impact by rambling into details;
Statements of common objectives should be short and punchy, and instantly
understandable.
If those objectives are, for example:
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think this point drives to the heart of the debate on gun control and
the
fact that you answer it with levity disappoints me.
Oh dear. You dont really need me to answer this!
Prince Phillip did it better than I could when he quoted the case for
cricket bats
From: "Earl Williamson", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello all, I have been following the threads at Cybershooters,
SAGBNI Bulletin Board, the newsgroups - uk.politics.guns,
rec.guns etc.
After all having been involved in the shooting sports now
for approx. 21 years(ish) it's always good to hear what
From: "jim.craig", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think the difference between the limits for air pistols partially reflects
the reality of what was possible with the existing spring and piston
technology of the times when power depended partly on the strength of the
spring which had to be compressed and
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
even in places
like Switzerland where heroin use was effectively decriminalised
for some time.
But you said it yourself in an earlier post,
decriminalisation is not the point as it dosen't remove the
dodgy characters and their crappy products. Establishing
a
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think it is erroneous to argue that no controls existed prior
to 1920, because people ignore the Defence of the Realm regulations
in force during the Great War. The prospect of those controls
being lifted is what led to the Firearms Act 1920.
Steve,
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"It should be noted a person who remains on his own property may with
impunity go around positively festooned with weapons. If he has a firearm
he
would need the appropriate certificate. His house may be a veritable
arsenal. He will be committing no
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you lawfully hold a firearm for, say, shooting deer, there is absolutely
nothing wrong in using it for self defence in the home PROVIDED that:
It is the minimum force required in the circumstances.
It is proportional to the perception of the threat at
From: Norman Bassett, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IG has a point about shooters arguing among themselves
(though it would just be an internal debate if they
were all in the ONE organisation) - I notice for
example that you've made some comments about
supporting age limits which you've not gone into.
From: "pa49", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When all is said and done we all have the requirement for a level of self
defense. But, it appears that we are all, nowadays, automatically expected
to relinquish the duty to provide it to an external authority. And then when
that authority fails to deliver we
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