RE: Screwing Jim Bell and Cypherpunks

2001-04-10 Thread Tim May
the ITARs (and maybe more). True, neither was ultimately charged. Their legal bills were substantial, however, and they could have face prison time and massive fines. Whatever people do in the way of writing code, doing it as near to untraceably as possible would seem to be the way to go. --Tim May -

Re: Federal tracking of drivers

2001-04-10 Thread Tim May
forwarded articles, I have felt the obligation to spend a few minutes making sure the word wraps were OK, sometimes even pasting-into a text editor for massaging prior to pasting into my mailer. A few more cases like this and "Norm DePlume" goes into the filter file. --Tim May --

Re: Pleading the 5th

2001-04-11 Thread Tim May
e contract. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns

Re: Pleading the 5th

2001-04-12 Thread Tim May
ke they're being shaken down. Doesn't seem likely to me that all of these privacy czars and Ottawa Privacy Commission guys are going to be pushing for FreedomNet to be used for liberating communications from all traceability and accountability, does it? --Tim May -- Timothy C. May

The Well-Read Cypherpunk

2001-04-15 Thread Tim May
read, read. I'm not saying every subscriber or interested person here should read hundreds of books. Just reading half a dozen, and thinking "outside the box" about the implications, is more important than reading but not integrating the ideas. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMA

Escrow agents

2001-04-15 Thread Tim May
This is well-trod ground. I'll have to be brief here. At 2:06 PM -0700 4/15/01, Ray Dillinger wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Tim May wrote: Widespread black markets, for drugs, betting, etc., suggest otherwise. There are many markets out there which do not rely on the official court system

Message from a Parallel Universe

2001-04-15 Thread Tim May
Cypherpunks, I was twiddling the dials on my Hartle-Witten BraneNet, and I received this message from a parallel negative tension brane universe. Apparently there is a group similar to our own group in this world which is at this quasi-time debating "literary anarchy." Here's an excerpt:

Re: The Crypto State

2001-04-23 Thread Tim May
anarchy. I think AP may have contained the germ of this idea; but Bell was perhaps too much of a nihilist to develop it in this direction, and more bent on destruction than creation. Crediting Bell with this idea, when he only arrived on the scene in the mid-90s, is absurd. Read some history. --Tim

Re: The Crypto State

2001-04-23 Thread Tim May
At 1:12 PM -0700 4/23/01, Ray Dillinger wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Tim May wrote: Cf. crypto anarchy. Cf. crypto anarchy. Uh, Tim? I've seen what you mean by crypto anarchy, and this ain't it. I'm talking about a society with laws, order, and *orders*. A society where individual people

Recording conversations and the laws of men

2001-04-24 Thread Tim May
is another book folks here should read. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired

Re: Wendy Grossman: From Anarchy to Power: The Net Comes of Age

2001-04-24 Thread Tim May
to become journalists just to fill the pages. (OTOH, I expect a shakeout in the b.s. magazines comparable to the bursting of the bubble for the dot gones.) --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy

Re: Amtrak The War On Drugs

2001-04-24 Thread Tim May
that Amerika has become a kleptocracy is unchanged.) Those in other countries should not sit back and smirk. France, Germany, and Japan are already far along in their march to statism. Kanada is catching up. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California

Re: Amtrak The War On Drugs

2001-04-24 Thread Tim May
, it will show the foolishness of government overreaction (ordering a million animals to be slaughtered and burned with tires and old pressure-treated lumber railroad ties). I wonder if the starving Brits will also be burned in piles? --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: The Well-Read Cypherpunk

2001-04-24 Thread Tim May
, Samuelson generated a very big book mainly (it seems) to sell more copies. Sort of like similar big books in molecular biology and organic chemistry. --Tim May

Re: Gibberish was Re: Right to anon. speech online upheld in US district court

2001-04-25 Thread Tim May
down to the Shalmaneserian Christ, what an imagination I've got! --Tim May (who can't parse or understand John Young's writings either. When I see he's writing in a lucid state, I read his posts. When I see he's in an opium dream, I delete the fucker.)

The Crews Proposal vs. Intentional Communities

2001-04-25 Thread Tim May
that intentional communties was all he was ever suggesting in the first place. Well, we've had them since the start of the Net, back in the late 60s, early 70s. And before. The more things change --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co

Free market solutions to foot and mouth disease outbreaks

2001-04-25 Thread Tim May
At 6:33 PM -0500 4/25/01, Jim Choate wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 06:43:20PM -0700, Tim May wrote: From our perspective, it will show the foolishness of government overreaction (ordering a million animals to be slaughtered and burned

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-28 Thread Tim May
PGP, remailers, etc.) --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles

RE: Technological Solution

2001-04-28 Thread Tim May
kissing my ass. I too, suffer from delusional fantasies. :) I suggest that you spend a few hours or tens of hours catching up and your response is some kind of 8th-grade schoolgirl joke. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-28 Thread Tim May
John Glenn space failure on information warfare from Cuba. (The plan was that if John Glenn's mission in 1962 failed, the story would be that Havana had been beaming interference rays at Cape Canaveral.) Fidel was the Jim Bell of 1962. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-29 Thread Tim May
At 11:22 PM -0400 4/28/01, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 06:32:08PM -0700, Tim May wrote: None of the non-cryptographic methods are very resistant to legal, technical, sniffing, and black bag attacks. And only multiply-chained encrypted-at-each-stage messages, a la

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-29 Thread Tim May
At 6:32 PM -0700 4/28/01, Tim May wrote: (You see, the quick review process is much better than the method you suggested re: economics, that people read the main textbooks. People don't need to spend several months wading through cryptography textbooks to come up to a level that is sufficient

Re: Technological Solution

2001-04-29 Thread Tim May
that is sufficient to understand the real issues.) --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86

Re: layered deception

2001-04-29 Thread Tim May
that is contempt. (It is only contempt if a judge orders an action which a witness is _able_ to comply with but which he does not...and of course not always then.) Judges cannot require time machines be used to undo past actions. --Tim May

Re: layered deception

2001-04-29 Thread Tim May
, too. What part of the Fourth Amendment are they missing? But all of these things show how far down the road to a police state we have gone. --Tim May

Idealism, non-coercion, and anarchies

2001-04-30 Thread Tim May
are not coerced, their natural profit-making motivations can then operate. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB

Re: BSE

2001-04-30 Thread Tim May
is _precisely_ why you don't want Throgg the Strongman or Mao the Savior or Hillary the Know it All in charge. Top-down rule by strongmen _magnifies_ the negative aspects of human nature. Second, no one is claiming to know how things will work out. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: layered deception

2001-05-01 Thread Tim May
to a thread. --Tim May

Re: The issue of logs is a 1A issue, not a matter of funding

2001-05-01 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, May 1, 2001, at 07:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Tue, 1 May 2001 18:14:38 -0700, Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real argument is that commanding a person to keep records of whom he communicates with (which is what a log of messages is all about) is a slam dunk

RE: cypherpunks in Desert Island gaming scenario

2001-05-02 Thread Tim May
get a subscription to Liberty and then give some rump session talks at the Young Libertarians conferences. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk

Re: layered deception (timestamping logs)

2001-05-03 Thread Tim May
signature, a timestamp, is not something to be given away lightly. --Tim May

Re: RF Weapons

2001-05-03 Thread Tim May
ago? --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns

Re: [Brinworld] Car's data recorder convicts driver

2003-06-18 Thread Tim May
truthful speaking shall not be infringed. And this is why more recent legislation allowing government to regulate commercial speech or to decide which speech is true and which is false (as in advertising claims) is so corrosive to liberty. --Tim May The great object is that every man be armed

Destroying government computers

2003-06-19 Thread Tim May
suffice. After that, if they connect, fuck their machines dead.) --Tim May Ben Franklin warned us that those who would trade liberty for a little bit of temporary security deserve neither. This is the path we are now racing down, with American flags fluttering.-- Tim May, on events following 9/11

Re: Destroying computers

2003-06-19 Thread Tim May
t-shirt. Just what a retired white astronomy prof wants, the t-shirt of a negro rap crapper. --Tim May

All quiet on the western front

2003-07-02 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 06:55 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote: Pretty quiet. I'm going through back messages now and only saw I think three from July 1. -Declan On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 02:04:28AM -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: Is it really quiet in here, or does the fact that I've been playing

Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool

2003-07-05 Thread Tim May
circuitry, you will get about what I am getting at the 1-hour setting. A very limited market for consumers to buy such machines. Video pirate labs very probably already have such rigs set up. --Tim May Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice.--Barry Goldwater

Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool

2003-07-08 Thread Tim May
, such tools will likely continue to be available. Use a logic analyzer, go to jail. --Tim May He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. -- Nietzsche

Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool

2003-07-08 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, July 8, 2003, at 04:09 PM, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 03:14 PM 7/8/03 -0700, Tim May wrote: As for hearing heterodyning in 28 KHz and 30 KHz signals, maybe. CD players have brickwall filters to of course block such frequencies. Some analog groove-based systems can have some kind

Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool

2003-07-08 Thread Tim May
the CD spec up to 24 KHz or so. That will probably even satisfy Neil Young. --Tim May

Re: MRAM, persistance of memory

2003-07-10 Thread Tim May
on this? Flash is of course an entirely different story. --Tim May

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

2003-07-07 Thread Tim May
or proclivities, followed by opting-out for the diseases one is highly unlikely to contract. This kind of not paying for what you don't use is a form of cherry-picking which only a total state could outlaw. Think about it.) --Tim May

Re: Unsubtle Wetwork

2003-07-18 Thread Tim May
spoken out on the forgeries and hype about the Iraq war are getting the message. Just as microbiologists did a few years ago when half a dozen microbiologists vanished. Just as other weapons experts did after Gerald Bull was executed. --Tim May They played all kinds of games, kept the House

Re: Unsubtle Wetwork

2003-07-18 Thread Tim May
On Friday, July 18, 2003, at 11:29 AM, Thoenen, Peter CIV Sprint wrote: Tim May wrote: U.S. occupation troops are spread so thin in Kosovo,.Kosovo...not our problem Having spent the better part of last year working in Kosovo, I wouldn't exactly call the forces there thin. NATO forces

Re: Dna samples of world leaders

2003-07-23 Thread Tim May
or coerced into providing blood samples, lots of ways to track DNA. All a matter of economics, as usual. --Tim May

Re: A 'Funky A.T.M.' Lets You Pay for Purchases Made Online

2003-07-25 Thread Tim May
discussing PayPal, VISA, MasterCard, DiscoverCard, etc. But they have nothing to do with Cypherpunks. We should also fight the use of sloppy language in the press when mundane electronic funds transfer systems are called digital cash. --Tim May

Re: A 'Funky A.T.M.' Lets You Pay for Purchases Made Online

2003-07-25 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 03:17 PM, Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2003-07-24, Tim May uttered: HOWEVER, our interest is in the untraceable/anonymous. Duh! You were gibbering about how digicash includes PayPal, ATMs, Visa, and other forms of transfers which are only digital in that computers

Re: A 'Funky A.T.M.' Lets You Pay for Purchases Made Online

2003-07-25 Thread Tim May
Some lurker unwilling to comment on the public list sent me this. I didn't notice it wasn't intended for the list until I had already written a reply and was preparing to send it. So I have altered the name. --Tim On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 01:07 PM, SOMEONE wrote: Tim May wrote

Re: Dead Body Theatre

2003-07-26 Thread Tim May
comes from work, investments, high tech, etc. I have no idea if you are really the Third World mutant you usually come off as being, but you really need to get out more. --Tim May

Re: Dead Body Theatre

2003-07-27 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, July 27, 2003, at 04:18 PM, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 27 Jul 2003 at 14:22, Tim May wrote: As for the standard of living issue, I _do_ think the standard of living has declined over the past 40 years, aside from some availability of high tech products and medical care. Most

Re: Dead Body Theatre

2003-07-27 Thread Tim May
investment gains are mostly due to monetary devaluation.) You often let your intense hatred of Marxism blind you to the very horrific situation we now face. --Tim May

Re: Someone at the Pentagon read Shockwave Rider over the weekend

2003-07-29 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 04:20 PM, John Young wrote: Tim May wrote: Yes, a bunch of ideas futures markets have existed for nearly a decade. An acquaintance of mine, Robin Hanson, was actively promoting such things in the late 80s and may have been involved in some of the Extropians-type

Re: Someone at the Pentagon read Shockwave Rider over the weekend

2003-07-29 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 03:24 PM, Steve Schear wrote: At 16:20 2003-07-29 -0700, John Young wrote: Tim May wrote: Yes, a bunch of ideas futures markets have existed for nearly a decade. An acquaintance of mine, Robin Hanson, was actively promoting such things in the late 80s and may have

Re: Someone at the Pentagon read Shockwave Rider over the weekend

2003-07-30 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 11:49 AM, Trei, Peter wrote: Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 09:26 AM, Bill Stewart wrote: Also, NYT Article was http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/29/politics/29TERR.html?th But it sounds like they've chickened out, because various

Re: Digicash Patents

2003-07-31 Thread Tim May
in anticipation of the patent expiration and go live with some kind of land rush when it's possible to do so. Some people expected a land rush when the main RSA patents expired several years ago. Parties were even thrown. The land rush never happened. --Tim May The only purpose for which power can

They never learn: Omniva Policy Systems

2003-08-06 Thread Tim May
running other mail programs, and so on? Seems like a fatally-flawed basis for a company. --Tim May As my father told me long ago, the objective is not to convince someone with your arguments but to provide the arguments with which he later convinces himself. -- David Friedman

Colored people and cripples

2003-08-06 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 10:59 AM, Tyler Durden wrote: Tim May wrote... Where did this of color nonsense get started? Like a lot of PC terms...from guilt-ridden white liberals. Black folks never use this term, as far as I've ever heard. I hear them using this _frequently_. Just about

Colored people

2003-08-06 Thread Tim May
to be called that, fine with me. --Tim May