The question is, can
she defy a subpoena based on membership in the privileged Reporter class
that an ordinary person could not defy?
It seems like the real question is how membership in the class is determined.
If anyone who's acting like a reporter in a certain context (say, Adam Shostack
The question is, can
she defy a subpoena based on membership in the privileged Reporter class
that an ordinary person could not defy?
It seems like the real question is how membership in the class is determined.
If anyone who's acting like a reporter in a certain context (say, Adam Shostack
Cyphrpunk wrote...
The notion that someone who is willing to spend months in jail just to
keep a promise of silence needs killing is beyond bizarre and is
downright evil. This list supports the rights of individuals to tell
the government to go to hell, and that is exactly what Judy Miller
Cyphrpunk wrote...
The notion that someone who is willing to spend months in jail just to
keep a promise of silence needs killing is beyond bizarre and is
downright evil. This list supports the rights of individuals to tell
the government to go to hell, and that is exactly what Judy Miller
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:
I've never heard it disclosed how the prosecutor discovered that Miller
had
had such a conversation but it isn't relevant anyway. The question is,
can
she defy a subpoena based on membership in the privileged Reporter class
that
an
On 10/18/05, Major Variola (ret.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists
should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class
journalists mentioned? She needs a WMD enema.
We put up with this needs killing crap from Tim May
cyphrpunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The notion that someone who is willing to spend months in jail just to
keep a promise of silence needs killing is beyond bizarre and is
downright evil.
Straw man alert.
MV's notion is that a person who thinks journalists should be a special
class of people
Gil Hamilton wrote:
I've never heard it disclosed how the prosecutor discovered that Miller had
had such a conversation but it isn't relevant anyway. The question is, can
she defy a subpoena based on membership in the privileged Reporter class that
an ordinary person could not defy?
Why not?
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:
I've never heard it disclosed how the prosecutor discovered that Miller
had
had such a conversation but it isn't relevant anyway. The question is,
can
she defy a subpoena based on membership in the privileged Reporter class
that
an
On 10/18/05, Major Variola (ret.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists
should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class
journalists mentioned? She needs a WMD enema.
We put up with this needs killing crap from Tim May
cyphrpunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The notion that someone who is willing to spend months in jail just to
keep a promise of silence needs killing is beyond bizarre and is
downright evil.
Straw man alert.
MV's notion is that a person who thinks journalists should be a special
class of people
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You're just trolling, right?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to
Unfortunately, it's not as simple as protecting a source.
Most shield laws, or proposed shield laws, as I understand them,
protect a journalist from revealing a source who is exposing
wrongdoing that is in the public interest. This is not the same
thing. The act of leaking the identity of Ms.
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My understanding is that she only went to jail because of a federal law
passed in the early 80's designed to protect undercover federal agents.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I was under the impression that were it
not for that law, there would be
On 10/19/05, Chris Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're just trolling, right?
[snip]
Major Variola (ret.) wrote:
So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists
should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class
journalists mentioned? She needs a WMD
On 2005-10-19T19:59:18+, Gil Hamilton wrote:
Reporters should have no rights the rest of us don't have. It's hard to
imagine the framers of the constitution approving an amendment that said
freedom of the press is granted to all those who first apply for and
receive permission from
Gil Hamilton wrote:
The problem is that reporters want to be made into a special class of
people that don't have to abide by the same laws as the rest of us. Are
you a reporter? Am I? Is the National Inquirer? How about Drudge?
What about bloggers? Which agency will you have to apply to
Dave Howe wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:
The problem is that reporters want to be made into a special class of
people that don't have to abide by the same laws as the rest of us. Are
you a reporter? Am I? Is the National Inquirer? How about Drudge?
What about bloggers? Which agency will you
Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On 2005-10-19T19:59:18+, Gil Hamilton wrote:
Reporters should have no rights the rest of us don't have. It's hard to
imagine the framers of the constitution approving an amendment that said
freedom of the press is granted to all those who first apply for
Gil Hamilton wrote:
I've never heard it disclosed how the prosecutor discovered that Miller had
had such a conversation but it isn't relevant anyway. The question is, can
she defy a subpoena based on membership in the privileged Reporter class that
an ordinary person could not defy?
Why not?
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My understanding is that she only went to jail because of a federal law
passed in the early 80's designed to protect undercover federal agents.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I was under the impression that were it
not for that law, there would be
Unfortunately, it's not as simple as protecting a source.
Most shield laws, or proposed shield laws, as I understand them,
protect a journalist from revealing a source who is exposing
wrongdoing that is in the public interest. This is not the same
thing. The act of leaking the identity of Ms.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
You're just trolling, right?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to
On 10/19/05, Chris Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're just trolling, right?
[snip]
Major Variola (ret.) wrote:
So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists
should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class
journalists mentioned? She needs a WMD
Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On 2005-10-19T19:59:18+, Gil Hamilton wrote:
Reporters should have no rights the rest of us don't have. It's hard to
imagine the framers of the constitution approving an amendment that said
freedom of the press is granted to all those who first apply for
Dave Howe wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:
The problem is that reporters want to be made into a special class of
people that don't have to abide by the same laws as the rest of us. Are
you a reporter? Am I? Is the National Inquirer? How about Drudge?
What about bloggers? Which agency will you
Gil Hamilton wrote:
The problem is that reporters want to be made into a special class of
people that don't have to abide by the same laws as the rest of us. Are
you a reporter? Am I? Is the National Inquirer? How about Drudge?
What about bloggers? Which agency will you have to apply to
On 2005-10-19T19:59:18+, Gil Hamilton wrote:
Reporters should have no rights the rest of us don't have. It's hard to
imagine the framers of the constitution approving an amendment that said
freedom of the press is granted to all those who first apply for and
receive permission from
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