Dear all,
it has been suggested that I apply for a slot for a general BoF about
Git-based tools, their use cases, possible paths from there and just a
general Git-together (scnr).
Please note that this BoF is not Debian-specific in nature; I don't
know if or how that affects your decision. If
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:
a.) tell the talks+video team before the talk that you dont want to be videoed
(or only audioed), thats totally fine. (But we really should have this in the
conference management system.)
Open Source Days in
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
I don't think we want anything so elaborate as a signed waiver; and I also
think we can and should assume that by default people giving talks are ok
being videotaped and need to opt out, otherwise people will overlook the
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Michael Shuler mich...@pbandjelly.org wrote:
While I think the ideas expressed so far are good for completeness, I
don't recall a recent DebConf that did not have a 3rd, 4th, or more
additional talk or BOF rooms that are not streamed/recorded. These
rooms can
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor
d...@fifthhorseman.net wrote:
as someone who has been on the talks team in the past (i was basically
AWOL this year) it would help us in talk scheduling to have a tristate
option in penta for talk submitters:
This is starting to feel like
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote:
It is arguably not overly original, but fits quite well the minimalistic
design guidelines we have followed during DebConf13. Suggestions and
improvements welcome.
I agree that there should be a reference to the
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net wrote:
I feel that the bags are a benefit to the conference, and bags are widely
given at professional conferences across many different industries.
Correct. And for good reason also; it's useful for attendees and it
allows a
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:
Not cc:ing the bid teams intentionally as I expect them to read this list and
reply...
*raises hand for German team*
I have to admit that I am not familiar with the decision process of
DebConf; I have been trying
Dear all,
Interest in the dudle has not been very high but the dates in it are
approaching.
Are any more votes forthcoming?
Either way, how do we break the tie between the various options?
Richard
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What about Norway?
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:50 PM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org wrote:
Martin is involved in a bid so he'd prefer if a neutral person did…
Holger, will you decide, then?
Richard
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On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote:
I can. when should I?
As I am involved with the bid, I am not sure I can say that.
Objectively, I note that one option has six yes, but one no from
Moray, so that may not be ideal...
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Dear all,
there seems to be very strong consensus to move from svn to Git. If
you object, voice your concerns _now_.
I hear gaudenz has been investigating this in the past; hearing from
him would be appreciated.
Assuming there are no major blockers, expect a migration within a few
weeks at
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:22 AM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org wrote:
also sprach Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org [2014-02-20 10:02 +0100]:
None that I am aware of (other than don't run around naked, but hey
;-)
Gosh, with such ridiculous standards, how should we ever attain the
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote:
I understand that the reason for the two German bids is that this would
allow the team to negotiate better conditions from the two options if
they win the bid. While that is true, there is no reason why these
Agreed. Mixing dc14 and dc15 is bound to lead to confusion.
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In what magazine(s) and language(s)?
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote:
My point kinda was that I thought the BBQ was the better Conference
Dinner. I wouldn't mind if we just had another one with some additional
social events one evening and scrap the traditional conference dinner.
I agree
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:23 AM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org wrote:
To add to that: I've heard in the past that DebConf is not the
place where everyone is keen to go into nature or engage in physical
activity. Let's not think like that. Obviously, not everyone will
join, and we do
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net wrote:
That's actually kind of what I'm planning. Only, the picnic is accompanied
by waterfalls.
I assume you are referring to Multnomah Falls[1].
Out of interest: How near is this to other hiking destinations/activities
and a
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
Not immediately adjacent, no. The rough plan is to take buses between
various stops in the gorge, with lunch outdoors as a group at a nearby
state
park. I'll let Patty speak to the details.
That sounds like a cheap
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote:
Again, I can believe this is the best version for Germany, but in many
places you could just create a limited-liability company rather than seek
insurance.
For completeness' sake, registering a Limited in Germany
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Andreas Barth a...@ayous.org wrote:
I even think using your by-law is a good starting point, and only
adjust what is necessary to adjust.
From what I understand, madduck is working closely with German lawyers
familiar with the matter. Without having had the
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.orgwrote:
However, starting the fiscal year not on 1 January is exceptional,
and starting it not on the first of a month even more so. While it's
not impossible, Andi's right in saying that it'll mean additional
steps and
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Pablo M. Drake
adminen...@infomed.sld.cuwrote:
One cuestion Works for peoples who lives in Cuba??
It's best to ask your local embassy, I'd say:
http://havana.usint.gov/visa_appointment_information.html
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:44 PM, martin f krafft madd...@debian.org wrote:
Realistically speaking, we're hardly ever going to meet in person,
but online, because we are not all based in the same city. It might
make sense to make in-person meetings require a quorum and let IRC
meetings always
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:05 PM, martin f krafft madd...@debian.orgwrote:
That would be the legal blah with an internal understanding that
this refers to Secretary, a TO, or a public mailing list.
You would have to define a procedure by which such a person is
elected.
How about we
Valid points; agreed.
Do you need any final review or are we good to send the doc off?
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On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:38 AM, martin f krafft madd...@debian.org wrote:
also sprach Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com [2014-04-24
09:06 +0200]:
Do you need any final review or are we good to send the doc off?
I think it's ready to go. I am just trying to remember what we
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Richard Hartmann
richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote:
Debian Deutschland e.V. makes potential re-use easier, else it's just a
name of no importance. Toss a coin?
After the question simmered some more at the back of my head, I think I am
leaning more strongly
I don't see any of this as an issue, but I have no problem with any of
those names.
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On Apr 25, 2014 12:56 AM, Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote:
However, if there are serious reservation about Debian Deutschland and
using the Debian trademark from the rest of the team (as Brian brought
up), it might make sense to go with Debconf Deutschland, but I don't
mind either way.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org wrote:
Adding auditors to Cc, and quoting in full.
Thanks.
Sure. But now that we have a process for establishing TOs, I'd rather
use it.
In this case, I am glad we raised the point and have clarification.
This obviously
Engelhard
Richard Hartmann
Sandro Knaus
Unconfirmed attendance:
Constanze Stohn
Philipp Hug
Sebastian Harl
2. The organization should remain loyal to Debian
See 1.
Going against Debian's best interest now or in the future would not
only be stupid beyond description, it would also wipe out our
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Andreas Barth a...@ayous.org wrote:
I'm running some throw-away non-profit organisations, and have not
experienced problems.
Have the tax authorities been made aware of this in advance? For how
long are those organisations running?
Debconf has a different
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:50 AM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org wrote:
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debconf-data/dc15.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd4fe0c0de7d39ad5ed25518b1e57200c75d4e4c
is an attempt to achieve this, which I'll need to run by the lawyer.
Comments welcome ASAP, please.
The
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
I've previously given my opinion on the name, that there should be a very
high bar for naming any organization Debian. Even if the board was
composed entirely of Debian developers, there's a risk that using such a
name
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Philipp Hug deb...@hug.cx wrote:
If we had DebConf15 chairs, they could be involved from the beginning
without having to bother about DC14 at the same time
This would make sense, imo. This is something the chairs could decide
by themselves.
I also note that
Confirmation beforehand would be nice if they deem to answer...
Can we change the recipient later? If a Debian eV comes to life the money
should go there
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If you really worry we can found two eVs, but that will mean name
discussions, bikeshedding, force us to keep up one eV, and we have a
similar problem for the later eV.
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On May 2, 2014 2:49 PM, Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org wrote:
[Good stuff]
I agree. To me, the CoC is a safety net and reference which exists, but
should not be invoked just so. It's there if you really need it but DebConf
as a social entity should be able to self-regulate in most if not all
Dear all,
as announced some time ago, we will incorporate DebConfDeutschland
e.V. tomorrow.
All founding members will be DDs with the full list being sent as a
reply to this email after the fact.
Given that:
* We will not be using the name Debian
* We are not planning to run for more than
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org wrote:
As you already described how you met the TO criteria in
cad77+gqwz0opgzi2qsgre3y3vbungtg6b4beqtcqbrz-wjh...@mail.gmail.com,
I think that we can safely say that the minimum two weeks discussion
period started on 2014-04-26
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org wrote:
The last step was never used so far AFAIK.
But it could probably be implemented as a d-d-a email providing the updated
list of TOs, and a page on the Debian website listing TOs and referencing
the d-d-a email.
(Similar
Hi Valessio,
I can't answer for DC14, but DC15 already has some designers working
on a logo and we would love to have more help if you have the time.
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On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Jonathan McDowell nood...@earth.li wrote:
AJ's point, which I think is valid, is that if you get into deep hack
mode you don't really want to be interrupted by talks. There's some
leeway for the talks team to decide what exactly would count as a BOF
but I think
Dear all,
is there anything more I can (or need to) do?
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Dear all,
Can we do concordet instead of single-vote? There are online tools
like [1] so there's no need for devotee or similarly complex
workflows.
Also, I know that this is too late, but I threw another hat in the
round. It's a mix of 4 and 5; I filed it under 10 but only added it to
the
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Penny Leach pe...@mjollnir.org wrote:
As to your logo, not sure what we should do about that. What did you
intend by adding it to the overview?
I consider 4 5 the best, but wasn't truly happy with either of them.
I realized _why_ and mixed the good parts.
As
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Penny Leach pe...@mjollnir.org wrote:
Since 10 ( now 11) are both remixes rather than new logos I'm happy to
add them to the voting table if people think it's reasonable.
I took the opportunity to open a new vote with Concordet and the new options.
Penny:
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Richard Hartmann
richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote:
I took the opportunity to open a new vote with Concordet and the new options.
If you (re)vote, please make a full list as my online tool can't use
partial ones.
Thanks,
Richard
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Richard Hartmann
richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote:
Peope who still need to re-vote as of right now are:
algernon
Debcool
h01ger
hvhaugwitz
Miriam
sim6
Sledge
vorlon
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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Richard Hartmann
richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote:
Peope who still need to re-vote as of right now are:
I poked the remaining ones via mail.
As of right now, we have a tie, so we need more votes :)
Richard
Break the tie by voting?
Most people re-voted instantly anyway, so...
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On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Richard Hartmann
richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote:
voting has closed and K has won.
After some more thought, this is a valid point and it should have been
raised earlier.
We can do a logo with rounded-off bordersedges or something, but that
will still stand
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin gaud...@debian.org wrote:
If I make it to Portland I can certainly come a few days earlier and
help with network setup if needed. I'm not sure yet if I can make it at
all though.
Same. For reference, I did most of the actual AP deployment for
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Kees Cook k...@debian.org wrote:
All devices were flashed with OpenWRT. This is quite practical for two
reasons (beside the fact that its Free Software ;-)):
- It's easier to deploy identical configuraitons as you can copy around
configuration files and don't
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Carl Karsten c...@nextdayvideo.com wrote:
Even if a venue has gig in the walls, I have given up on it being reliable.
It is too easy for it to have problems during a talk, and that drops the
quality of the video and causes the video team to freak out. solution
Can they route prefixes?
Getting temporary PI would be an option, but I don't know how to get those
with ARIN.
Can they drop an essid on a distinct vlan from their Wi-Fi infra? Could
we/they add APs to their controller if we need more coverage?
Same vlan could be used for wired.
Richard
Sent
As an aside, can you let freenode and oftc know what addresses will be used
so we can i-line?
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Just in case we ever need this:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512
Voting was open until 23:59 GMT, Sunday June 1st 2014.
K has won
Original votes:
RichiH: J, E, D, G, A, H, K, L, B, C, F, I
jandd: K, J, E, D, F, G, H, B, L, C, A, I
bwh:L, K, H, D, F, A, C, G,
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Kees Cook k...@debian.org wrote:
Yeah, I want specifics on their VLAN -- I doubt they use a massive DHCP
network for a /16. :)
With my FOSDEM hat on: doing this for a /18 is doable ;)
Richard
PS: I will find out how temp PI works in the US, just in case
BTW, do we want people to be able to upload their slides to summit?
Yes. And other supporting material.
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On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@ftbfs.de wrote:
RIPE offers IP space for EU events like CCC. Ask them if they know about US?
RIPE NCC would surely have an answer by 2018, yes ;)
Sadly, ARIN is acting[1] in the way I have heard stories of great
affection and well-meaning
Dear all,
we already talked about this within the DC15 team, but just to make
sure that we are all on the same page:
I think we should spam DPN, the -announces, reddit, friendly press
publications, etc once we have:
* non-profit status
* basic sponsorship info
* website with reasonably
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com wrote:
I'm asking because if the two are largely in alignment, perhaps having
the attendees in compliance with the DebConf CoC, will be fine for PL?
Turning this around, can the Debian DebConf CoC be submitted to them
and,
My only real comment would be that I can not yet put in all
information before signing, but they are probably aware of that, so..
;)
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I would say that there are lots of policies and rules that Debconf
attendees need to comply with to travel to the U.S. that they may not
agree with. I'm certain their policy is just along the lines of
covering them
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:35 AM, martin f krafft madd...@madduck.net wrote:
On the upside of things, we'll be allowed to bring personal firearms
to DebConf14! \o/
Pity the default init system debate is over already...
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Thanks!
Do attendees need to confirm to theirs or is ours enough for them?
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(I am picking up some points from elsewhere in this thread, as well)
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
In the process, I've taken a pass over the rest of the budget, and have bad
news: we have way more money in the DebConf14 accounts than we're actually
As someone who is relatively new to DebConf, not Debian, but who jumped
into the deep end:
* There is obviously frustration in a lot of places, this is not good.
* As someone who helped spearhead the successful DC15 bid, I found the
process opaque, inefficient, ill-designed, and... frustrating
*
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Ana Guerrero Lopez a...@debian.org wrote:
If you're against the chairs talking with people grouping them by debconf
year or global team, suggest something else. I understond that the goal
here is taking the time to hear what everybody has to say about the
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:19 AM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org wrote:
also sprach Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2014-08-19 04:33 +0200]:
I think we should make a point of sending this off with the DC15
crew at the end of the conference. :)
This is a good idea, saves us logistic
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:35 PM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org wrote:
and in time to hand out at FrOSCon
Just so everyone knows: FrOSCon will take place next weekend, August
23rd and 24th.
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This sounds very good; thank you for sharing your views and driving this.
For people not on site: is there a way to follow what discussions with
whom are taking place when?
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Hi Gunnar,
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote:
I do not believe the year was a stalemate. Things were done quite
differently than last year, and next year they will be done
differently, because the teams have very different compositions and
personalities. Many
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org wrote:
As Didier wrote, I think that
clearer statements of the problems, with the POV of various parties,
would help a lot. I'm thinking of statements such as:
As a chair during the DCn organization, I felt that ...
As a member
I like the idea of persistent(-ish?) sub-teams. Even though there seems to
be unrest atm, I consider the video team a success story.
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How many people will you have? Faking more, or having stand-ins, may make
sense.
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:34 PM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org wrote:
Second, we are going to discuss an idea by marga coming out of her
experience with DC8, wherein one team member's job is to poke the
others regularly. This person's contribution to DebConf is to keep
on top of things
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Judit Foglszinger fgr...@freenet.de wrote:
Taking a penalty card for redundancy and wrongly suspecting the spam filter.
Failure to take mental sanity of people not on site into account by
mindlessly referring to the playing of the game of our dear leader.
Also, helicopter.
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Of you hand over stuff, let the winner know beforehand; else they may be
gone, already.
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On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Carl Karsten c...@nextdayvideo.com wrote:
the good news is the string and summit db key is here:
http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/debian/S/debconf14.json
slug: HPs_OpenStack_Helion_Debian_all_the_way_down,
conf_url:
Can you magic up a way to convert URL content into links to the actual WWW
target?
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On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Carl Karsten c...@nextdayvideo.com wrote:
Can you magic up a way to convert URL content into links to the actual WWW
target?
I don't understand that request, hopefully it is answered above.
That was meant for Joey; the question is if the the debconf annex
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:24 AM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org wrote:
Yes, I am sure we can/will have free non-alcoholic drinks beyond
water, such as juice or tea and coffee etc.
During lunch on site, HD had water tea in large self-serve
containers. Having a few of those in strategic
Also +1
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They probably didn't agree to receive such mail; yet I think this is
worthwhile (while risking bikeshedding).
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If that's the concern... git-annex?
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Valessio?
Richard
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On Sep 9, 2014 1:25 PM, Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com wrote:
We have an obligation to design a full page magazine ad, that thanks
our sponsors. Does anyone with computer design skills have time and
interest to help out?
Thanks,
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:49 PM, ValessioBrito vales...@gmail.com wrote:
I make a proposal:
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Artwork#Magazine_Ad
I didn't verify if the sponsor logos are of the correct size etc, but
other than that, I like it. No frills, yet visually pleasing. Will
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Sebastian Harl tok...@debian.org wrote:
It was discussed to mention that job offerings should be limited to the
job wall (instead of, e.g., the conference bag). I suggest to add the
following to the Swag bags and raffle prizes section:
During yesterday's Debian
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Michael Banck mba...@debian.org wrote:
See Martin's reply to this one, the idea was to get people to all show
up to the morning orga announcements and subsequent sessions (at least
if they are interested in the raffle, we could record that in summit
maybe).
Dear all,
no idea if anything of the kind is in our summit instance at the
moment, but I would appreciate a dedicated disclaimer that we may
email people with relevant information and updates. I don't think
there should be a way to opt out of this.
I fully expect us to send several emails with
Hi Valessio,
See: http://debconf14.debconf.org/become-sponsor.xhtml
Silver (1x and 1 color), Gold (2x) and Platinum (4x). In attachment
the map align.
Makes sense!
I suggest simplifying the color of Silver sponsors to avoid visual confusion.
Not so sure about that... With my FOSDEM
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com wrote:
The way I look at it, raffles are just a way to do higher value swag,
that sponsors can't really justify giving to all attendees.
So you agree/disagree/don't care if they are given away in the morning
(for some value
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Brian Gupta brian.gu...@brandorr.com wrote:
I'm not sure I understand the first part of your question though? for
some value of...
For some value of morning as I suspect the raffle would take place
at 10:00 which is morning during DebConf, but almost noon during
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