Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously David Starner wrote: Speed reasons - gzip is significantly faster than bzip2, which matters for old ix86 (x=3,4) and m68k machines which run Debian. bzip2 also uses more memory which can be an issue with lowmemory systems. Wichert. --

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: * Every day a script will run thru the list of packages marked as Orphaned. For every package ( important) which has been orphaned longer than 28 days, a bug will be submitted against ftp.debian.org requesting the package to be moved to

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-04 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:34:44AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: But then it might interrupt the installation process. Just as debconf asks all of the preinst questions before any of the packages have started unpacking, it would be nice to be able to defer any questions that *have*

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Speed reasons - gzip is significantly faster than bzip2, which matters for old ix86 (x=3,4) and m68k machines which run Debian. bzip2 also uses more memory which can be an issue with lowmemory systems. I had a 486 with 8Mb and with `bzip2 -s' I could use bzipped packages perfectly... are

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-04 Thread Jürgen A. Erhard
Julian == Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Julian On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 11:34:44AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: But then it might interrupt the installation process. Just as debconf asks all of the preinst questions before any of the packages have started

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Enrique Robledo Arnuncio
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: The follwing packages need a new maintainer: ... mctools-lite (69638), 12 days old ... rosegarden (68189), 33 days old ... My sponsor (Javier Fernandez-Sanguino) is checking both packages, and we hope they will be

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-04 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Today, Marcelo E Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: None of them look DFSG-Free to me. Nonetheless, SMIL _is_ a nice tool to produce something multimedia-ish. Hopefully, somebody writes a DFSG-Free player in the near future -- but it won't be me, I don't

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:56:59AM +0200, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: The follwing packages need a new maintainer: ... mctools-lite (69638), 12 days old ... rosegarden (68189), 33 days old ... My sponsor

MIDI Notation Software

2000-09-04 Thread Enrique Robledo Arnuncio
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 07:29:14PM -0400, H. S. Teoh wrote: Which version of rosegarden are you packaging? the existing version is very old and quite buggy. Upstream appears to be working on a new version which seems to be taking a while to materialize... any info so far? I'm very interested

Re: MIDI Notation Software

2000-09-04 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:12:40AM +0200, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote: I have not found any other free graphical MIDI notator for linux. Maybe we will have to wait for rosegarden 3.0... jazz++ has been free software for a few months now. from the home page: http://www.jazzware.com/

Re: MIDI Notation Software

2000-09-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:31:03PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:12:40AM +0200, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote: I have not found any other free graphical MIDI notator for linux. Maybe we will have to wait for rosegarden 3.0... jazz++ has been free software for a

Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 10:58:14PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: Anyway, I'm wondering, is there any need for a website redesign or any icon needs? I have Adobe Photoshop and I am a expert at it. I use Macromedia Dreamweaver and I would LOVE to help this great project. I would love to be on

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 07:48:54PM -0300, Nicol?s Lichtmaier wrote: Speed reasons - gzip is significantly faster than bzip2, which matters for old ix86 (x=3,4) and m68k machines which run Debian. bzip2 also uses more memory which can be an issue with lowmemory systems. I had a 486

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
Speed reasons - gzip is significantly faster than bzip2, which matters for old ix86 (x=3,4) and m68k machines which run Debian. bzip2 also uses more memory which can be an issue with lowmemory systems. I had a 486 with 8Mb and with `bzip2 -s' I could use bzipped packages

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 11:49:32PM -0300, Nicol?s Lichtmaier wrote: Speed reasons - gzip is significantly faster than bzip2, which matters for old ix86 (x=3,4) and m68k machines which run Debian. bzip2 also uses more memory which can be an issue with lowmemory systems.

Re: MIDI Notation Software

2000-09-04 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 09:07:42PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:31:03PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:12:40AM +0200, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote: I have not found any other free graphical MIDI notator for linux. Maybe we will have

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
I had a 486 with 8Mb and with `bzip2 -s' I could use bzipped packages perfectly... are we talking about 4 Mb mechines? Do you realize how much ram dpkg itself already takes up? Add that to bzip2 and you are definitely swapping, even with 8 megs of RAM. Heck, doing this, and you

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2903T152152-0500, Branden Robinson wrote: -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- ... -END PGP MESSAGE- gpg: encrypted with 1024-bit ELG-E key, ID 22CC9EBE, created 2000-08-17 Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: no secret key for decryption available gpg: decryption failed:

libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi! I've noticed a serious problem with libgd1 (or, libgd1g) during the last month. And I don't really know what to do about. webalizer and linuxconf now depends on libgd1g, which currently isn't anymore available from our ftp-servers. And on the other hand libgd-perl depends on

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: mpsql (68054), 33 days old How on earth did this make it onto your list. I cannot remeber orphaning it at all. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael@Fam-Meskes.De Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:54:25AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: Um, why send such a message to a widely-read mailing-list? As a joke... -- G. Branden Robinson | Psychology is really biology. Debian GNU/Linux| Biology is really chemistry.

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
Sergey I. Golod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Thus spake Sergey I. Golod ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? -rw-r--r--1 root root 749427 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.bz2 -rw-r--r--1 root root 1024180 Sep 3 00:56

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: mpsql (68054), 33 days old How on earth did this make it onto your list. I cannot remeber orphaning it at all. please do close bug #68054 if the package is no longer up

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Fri 01 Sep 2000, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: What about for users who want to rebuild the package for whatever reasons? Many times you get half way through some huge package and it craps out because you didn't have some esoteric header file or library. Build-depends is invluable for avoiding

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:55:29AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: please do close bug #68054 if the package is no longer up for adoption. The number after the package name is the bug number on It is up for adoption but this is not the same as orphaned by any means. ... As to how

Sound config broken in 2.2.17 ???

2000-09-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Hello all, Two colleagues and myself have tried to get sound working on 2.2.17 systems with Potato. [I have also tried on a Woody system] Kernel builds - sound modules aren't there. Devices in /dev are all there OK. If the soundcard drivers are built into the kernel - all appears OK - cat

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:55:29AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: please do close bug #68054 if the package is no longer up for ^^ adoption. The number after the

X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Per Lundberg
(Sorry if this has been discussed earlier, and/or this is the wrong list...) How come Debian don't have a non-X runlevel, like some other distributions, in the default configuration? I think this would be pretty convenient. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:32:07AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: (Sorry if this has been discussed earlier, and/or this is the wrong list...) How come Debian don't have a non-X runlevel, like some other distributions, in the default configuration? I think this would be pretty convenient.

Re: Map on debian website - bug in apache?

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Fri 01 Sep 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: On http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/developers.loc , there's supposed to be a jpeg of a world map with debian developers. On the main website, www.debian.org, there is. It seems that the .nl webserver is interpreting the filename

ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread John O Sullivan
LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder I'm surprised that lame hasn't been packaged already. Was it discussed and rejected previously? Original source available from http://www.sulaco.org/mp3 Licence is 100% GPL'ed code since May 2000 There is a possible problem with the Fraunhoffer (sp?) patent on mp3 but I

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:15:42AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: | The follwing packages need a new maintainer: | ... | mpsql (68054), 33 days old I'm sorry, but I don't have the original mail anymore. But I thought it said the packages including mpsql will be moved to project/orphaned.

Re: intent to package countrycodes

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sun 03 Sep 2000, Dr. Guenter Bechly wrote: I intend to package Country Codes 1.0.3, a text-based ISO3166 country code finder (yes, I know there is a Perl module that does the same, but this little tool is easier and more flexible). The package is actually already made and lintian clean.

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Per Lundberg
EB == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EB perhaps because in the default configuration there is no EB display manager, and thus no automatic runage of X. Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a display manager, your system will boot up in X. To get it to boot up

Re: Map on debian website - bug in apache?

2000-09-04 Thread Remco van de Meent
Paul Slootman wrote: On http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/developers.loc , there's supposed to be a jpeg of a world map with debian developers. On the main website, www.debian.org, there is. It seems that the .nl webserver is interpreting the filename developers.map.jpeg as a .map

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Per Lundberg wrote: Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a display manager, your system will boot up in X. To get it to boot up in console mode, you have to manually remove the symlinks in your runlevel's script directory. The next time you update the

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: EB == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EB perhaps because in the default configuration there is no EB display manager, and thus no automatic runage of X. Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: [...] To get it to boot up in console mode, you have to manually remove the symlinks in your runlevel's script directory. The next time you update the display manager, you'll have to do this again. It is not really convenient.

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Per Lundberg
EB == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a display manager, your system will boot up in X. EB is that not what you wanted when you installed *dm ? Maybe, but having the option to get into console mode too would be nice.

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread Samuel Hocevar
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000, John O Sullivan wrote: I'm surprised that lame hasn't been packaged already. Was it discussed and rejected previously? You're right about the Fraunhofer problem. See the WNPP page at http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html (at the bottom). Sam. -- Samuel

WARNING: potato has horrible broken locales

2000-09-04 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
Hi, Some time ago I discoverd a problem with sort (from textutils). It doesn't work for me :(. Maintainger of textutils package wrote me that is problem only with my (pl_PL) locale. After that he discovered that even en_AU locale is broken. This bug (#69544) has been reassigned to libc6. Today

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Per Lundberg wrote: Are you *absolutely* sure? The reason I ask is because I've been Yes. having this exact problem with gpm lately. I like to start it occasionally, because it interfers with my X configuration, so I use to remove the symlinks. Each and every time gpm is

Re: WARNING: potato has horrible broken locales

2000-09-04 Thread Peter Makholm
Mirek Kwasniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today I've trying (in bash): ls /dev/tty[a-z]0 and answer has unexpected /dev/ttyI0 and /dev/ttyS0 followed by /dev/tty[a-z]0 entries. I've seen this comming up a lot of places the past few months. It looks like somebody wants to redefine [a-c]

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:43:35AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: Maybe, but having the option to get into console mode too would be nice. Sometimes, you might not want X to start up when you reboot. (I don't do this very often, but I know there are people that do) the key is not everyone does it

Re: ITP: penguin command

2000-09-04 Thread Bernhard Josef Rieder
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 03:44:29AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: only been slightly modified. Penguin Command is completely licensed under the GPL, excluding the music. The problem with the music: it is free distributable but the author does not want it to be changed. Is there any license

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Per Lundberg
EB == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EB it leaves the decision where it belongs with me. Yeah. I think you're right about this. I just got a little confused with my gpm problems, I guess. EB if that is true (and your only removing SOME of the symlinks EB not ALL of them)

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: also you mean that the symlinks are recreated, not just gpm being restarted right? there is an obnoxious behavior in debian where upgraded packages are started even if they were not running in the first place. (*cough* portmap *cough*) there was a bit

Re: WARNING: potato has horrible broken locales

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Peter Makholm wrote: handling of [a-z] discussion snipped ls /dev/tty[[:lower:]]0 Ugh. Whatever happened to lazy unix users? a-z is a lot easier to type than [:lower:] . I'd find it a lot more reasonable if [A-Z] was interpreted as [A-Za-z]. Next step will be renaming ls

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
My suggestion for the Packages file is: There's a Packages.bz2 additionally to the Packages.gz . apt downloads by default the Packages.bz2, but you can tell apt to fetch the Packages.gz instead if you do have a slow machine. This solution has the advantage that there are no problems with old

Re[2]: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Bravo
Hello Paul, Monday, September 04, 2000, 3:01:42 PM, you wrote: PS It's unfortunate that there's no easy way to find the current runlevel PS (the usual who -r from Solaris etc. doesn't work) /sbin/runlevel can be used to find the current runlevel -- Best regards, Michael

Re: Sound config broken in 2.2.17 ???

2000-09-04 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
4.09.2000 pisze Andrew M.A. Cater ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Two colleagues and myself have tried to get sound working on 2.2.17 systems with Potato. Well, I can't confirm broken sound config. I didn't have any problems. Stock Debian 2.2.17pre source with some usual patches (devfs for example);

Re: WARNING: potato has horrible broken locales

2000-09-04 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:50:07PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: [...] It will break scripts, but it doesn't seem like anyone cares about that (Ohhh, I imagine there is a major flamer war going on somewhere). The future proof and locale portable way to do the above is: ls /dev/tty[[:lower:]]0

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Frank Copeland
On 4 Sep 00 09:43:35 GMT, Per Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EB == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a display manager, your system will boot up in X. EB is that not what you wanted when you installed *dm ? Maybe, but

Re: libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread Stefan Gybas
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: webalizer and linuxconf now depends on libgd1g, which currently isn't anymore available from our ftp-servers. Not any longer. The newest linuxconf package in woody depends on the new libgd1: Package: linuxconf [...] Version: 1.20r2-1 Depends: netbase (= 3.16-1),

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Anton Ivanov
[snip] Isn't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] good enough to get into console mode? In what circumstances whould you not want X to start up on boot if you had installed a *dm? In the circumstance when you are serving a flock of dumb clients from a single machine. NCD Xterms for example. In this

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:19:08AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:54:25AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: Um, why send such a message to a widely-read mailing-list? As a joke... Im damned curious.. what did it say? -- Michael Beattie

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:48:24PM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: [snip] Isn't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] good enough to get into console mode? In what circumstances whould you not want X to start up on boot if you had installed a *dm? In the circumstance when you are serving a flock of

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a display manager, your system will boot up in X. To get it to boot up in console mode, you have to manually remove the symlinks in your runlevel's script directory. The next

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 02:25:39AM -0300, Nicol?s Lichtmaier wrote: I had a 486 with 8Mb and with `bzip2 -s' I could use bzipped packages perfectly... are we talking about 4 Mb mechines? Do you realize how much ram dpkg itself already takes up? Add that to bzip2 and you are

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Samuel Hocevar
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000, Per Lundberg wrote: Are you *absolutely* sure? The reason I ask is because I've been having this exact problem with gpm lately. I like to start it occasionally, because it interfers with my X configuration You might be interested in the `-R' option of gpm then. Sam.

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: EB == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EB perhaps because in the default configuration there is no EB display manager, and thus no automatic runage of X. Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:48:24PM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: In the circumstance when you are serving a flock of dumb clients from a single machine. NCD Xterms for example. In this case you *NEED* a *dm running with network access turned on but the machine itself may not even have

Re: Re[2]: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Michael Bravo wrote: Monday, September 04, 2000, 3:01:42 PM, you wrote: PS It's unfortunate that there's no easy way to find the current runlevel PS (the usual who -r from Solaris etc. doesn't work) /sbin/runlevel can be used to find the current runlevel So it does. It

Re: libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Please refrain from Cc:ing me - I _do_ read the lists I'm posting to *sigh* It seems that that can't be said often enough. On 04 Sep 2000, Stefan Gybas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The libgd maintainer decided to drop support for a libc5-based libgd and renamed the libgd1g package to libgd1 (I

Re: libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread Remco van de Meent
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: The libgd maintainer decided to drop support for a libc5-based libgd and renamed the libgd1g package to libgd1 (I personally don't think that this was a good idea as it might cause problems during upgrades). Do I interpret this right that I should file a bugreport

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Anton Ivanov
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:48:24PM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: In the circumstance when you are serving a flock of dumb clients from a single machine. NCD Xterms for example. In this case you *NEED* a *dm running with network access turned on but the machine itself may not even

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also debian believes in leaving the runlevel configuration to the admin to define. Sure - but there is the FHS (I hope that I read it there) that defines what at least runlevel 2 and 3 are for. I would really like to see that Debian

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread John Hasler
Frank writes: Isn't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] good enough to get into console mode? In what circumstances whould you not want X to start up on boot if you had installed a *dm? a) You just made some changes in X that caused it to lock up the display. Magic sysreq got you out alive, but now you would

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Anton Ivanov wrote: Example: I had to go into an intermediate single user mode boot on some of my machines after forgetting to turn off xdm after changing video cards. Or during dealing with laptop docking gear. If there was a boot with X disabled and xdm

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Samuel Hocevar
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000, Anton Ivanov wrote: It still does not answer the original question which was about X-only/ non-X runlevel. In other words how to boot in multiuser mode selectively with/without X. Which is quite a sensible question. Example: I had to go into an

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Arthur Korn
Paul Slootman schrieb: On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: Debhelper (and one of the other helper things) does this, if you don't call dh_installinit with the --no-restart-on-upgrade (or such) option. I guess the reasoning is that (a) you're upgrading in multiuser mode because debian

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Arthur Korn
Hello. Adrian Bunk schrieb: My suggestion for the Packages file is: There's a Packages.bz2 additionally to the Packages.gz . apt downloads by default the Packages.bz2, but you can tell apt to fetch the Packages.gz instead if you do have a slow machine. This solution has the advantage that

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Anton Ivanov
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000, Anton Ivanov wrote: It still does not answer the original question which was about X-only/ non-X runlevel. In other words how to boot in multiuser mode selectively with/without X. Which is quite a sensible question. Example: I had to go into an

Debian, daemons and runlevels (was: Re: X and runlevels)

2000-09-04 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Paul Slootman wrote: On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: It's unfortunate that there's no easy way to find the current runlevel (the usual who -r from Solaris etc. doesn't work), otherwise this piece of code could be used: RL=`who -r` if [ -x

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-04 Thread Donovan Baarda
G'day Joey, I'm not subscribed to debian-devel, but wanted to add some comments on this issue after reading the web archives. Because I'm not subscribed, I dunno if my Cc to the list will work, in which case you can forward this to the list as you see fit. IMHO, the entire reason Helix exists as

apt and multiple connections

2000-09-04 Thread Russell Coker
It appears from the apt documentation that it will only ever transfer a maximum of one file per web-server by design (the documentation on Queue-Mode in apt.conf(5) says that it will transfer one file per-host or one per URI type). I would like to transfer several files at a time to enable usable

Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Hugues Marilleau
Who is going to ITP kde ? I'm dreaming about an apt-get install kde ... And what about Debian GNU/Hurd and Debian Win32 ? They are not Unix (Linux is ?) and only Qt/Unix is GPL ? I think this is a good reason to *not* include KDE in Debian. See

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Per Lundberg
SH == Samuel Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason I ask is because I've been having this exact problem with gpm lately. I like to start it occasionally, because it interfers with my X configuration SHYou might be interested in the `-R' option of gpm then. Yeah, I

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:50:03PM +0200, Hugues Marilleau wrote: And what about Debian GNU/Hurd and Debian Win32 ? They are not Unix (Linux is ?) and only Qt/Unix is GPL ? I think this is a good reason to *not* include KDE in Debian. If there is a free version, the rest is a matter of

Re: Debian, daemons and runlevels (was: Re: X and runlevels)

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: This would be managed through a simple (for sysvinit. I don't believe it'd be very complex for file-rc either, but I didn't check), standard script/program added to the sysvinit and file-rc packages (and any other future packages of the same

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Hugues Marilleau's letter: Who is going to ITP kde ? I'm dreaming about an apt-get install kde ... And what about Debian GNU/Hurd and Debian Win32 ? They are not Unix (Linux is ?) and only Qt/Unix is GPL ? I think this is a good reason to *not*

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:50:03PM +0200, Hugues Marilleau wrote: Who is going to ITP kde ? I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2904T14+0200, Remco van de Meent wrote: getting angry when you don't reply to their requests within one hour, even if you are 'on leave' as stated on db.debian.org. Nondevelopers do not have access to the away information in db.d.o. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ITP magellan

2000-09-04 Thread John O Sullivan
Magellan is a personal information manager under development for KDE 2.0. I am a close friend of the project leader and we've discussed this several times. More details available from http://www.kalliance.org The license is the MIT license. I am not assuming that KDE will or will not make it into

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread ferret
Lame could be compiled with vorbis support enabled and mp3 disabled, perhaps, and go into unstable/main. But would we have to excise the mp3-specific parts in the source package in order to do so? On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Samuel Hocevar wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000, John O Sullivan wrote: I'm

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:37:20AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Lame could be compiled with vorbis support enabled and mp3 disabled, perhaps, and go into unstable/main. But would we have to excise the mp3-specific parts in the source package in order to do so? This is something

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for September 1, 2000

2000-09-04 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting BugScan reporter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Package: nscd (debian/main) Maintainer: Joel Klecker debian-glibc@lists.debian.org 58367 nscd: 'broken pipe' error causes entire box to be unusable [IGNORE] No fix or workaround available for potato (ajt) Is this fixed in woody? I have been

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Brian Mays
On 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also debian believes in leaving the runlevel configuration to the admin to define. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerfried Fuchs) wrote: Sure - but there is the FHS (I hope that I read it there) that defines what at least runlevel 2 and 3 are

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for September 1, 2000

2000-09-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:07:04PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Quoting BugScan reporter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Package: nscd (debian/main) Maintainer: Joel Klecker debian-glibc@lists.debian.org 58367 nscd: 'broken pipe' error causes entire box to be unusable [IGNORE] No fix or

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: Hi, Hi Marcelo, ... Regarding the severity of the ftp.debian.org bug: important. Rationale: in the general case, packages that managed to get to this state are non-interesting (otherwise they would have been adopted already). That means

Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-04 Thread happ
enough said http://www.trolltech.com now we can move the ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato kde2 contrib back home WE WON ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: EB == Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EB perhaps because in the default configuration there is no EB display manager, and thus no automatic runage of X. Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:08:33PM +0200, happ wrote: enough said http://www.trolltech.com now we can move the ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato kde2 contrib back home The sources have to be recompiled at least with the new Qt. WE WON ! Everyone won :) Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Peter Allen
David Starner wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:06:34PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote: David Starner wrote: On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 03:15:10PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote: Hello. Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? -rw-r--r--1 root root

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread Peter Allen
Daniel Burrows wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:37:20AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Lame could be compiled with vorbis support enabled and mp3 disabled, perhaps, and go into unstable/main. But would we have to excise the mp3-specific parts in the source package in order to

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Julian == Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Julian No, this isn't what I was talking about. There was a discussion Julian recently (should I try to track down the message numbers?) about some Julian packages which could not use the debconf database setup, for example Julian because

Re: ITP: penguin command

2000-09-04 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:55:25PM +0200, Bernhard Josef Rieder wrote: On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 03:44:29AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: only been slightly modified. Penguin Command is completely licensed under the GPL, excluding the music. The problem with the music: it is free

Re: libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 02:44:44PM +0200, Remco van de Meent wrote: There are already loads of bugreports like that filed against webalizer, because people don't seem to bother checking the existing bugreports before fileing yet another one, and, worse, people are getting angry when you don't

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Andreas Rottmann
Hugues Marilleau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who is going to ITP kde ? I'm dreaming about an apt-get install kde ... Rather task-kde ;-) (SCNR) Regards, Andy -- Andreas Rottmann | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pfeilgasse 4-6/725 | A-1080 Wien |

Re: [peter@makholm.net: Re: ITP hodie]]

2000-09-04 Thread Mikael Johansson
Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does it do? It has the same functionality as the date (1) program, only... It has it in grammatically correct latin. Couldn't this be done with gettext and the normal date comand? -- Peter - End forwarded message

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