Re: Stuff the installer does which isn't done on upgrade....

2006-08-05 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 03 August 2006 06:24, Nathanael Nerode wrote: So upgraded systems don't get the benefits of certain changes to the installer's defaults, or defaults in programs used by the installer. http://wiki.debian.org/Sarge2EtchUpgrade Anyobdy (Marco d'Itri?) can add some comments regarding

Re: Urgent

2005-01-31 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 28 January 2005 15.49, Steve Greenland wrote: On 28-Jan-05, 04:30 (CST), Francois Bottin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those not speaking french, this is a nigerian scam... The first I have ever received in this language, albeit very poorly written. That's sad, because the English

Re: shell script sniplets in /usr/bin?

2005-01-31 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 29 January 2005 18.28, Frank Küster wrote: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, sean finney wrote: why not do something like this in any script that uses gettext: #!/bin/sh PATH=${PATH}:/usr/share/gettext/scripts . gettext.sh Because we

Re: Free Beer: Need packaging assistance...

2005-07-11 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 23.15, Mikael Olenfalk wrote: So if there is a DD living in Stockholm, Sweden; I'm would be pleased to pay for dinner+beer (or equivalent) for a laptop-packaging-session Debian is about free speech, not free beer, so you can have that cheaper: just allow the DD to

Re: How to recognise different ETCH wishlists from quite a long way away (revised)

2005-07-11 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 08 July 2005 14.33, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: TODO: Should this be in   http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?ReleaseProposals ? It's http://wiki.debian.net/?EtchTODOList - which contains a short disclaimer on its difference vs. ReleaseProposals. Manoj: Mere wishlists by

Re: How to recognise different ETCH wishlists from quite a long way away (revised)

2005-07-11 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 09 July 2005 00.39, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 03:49:36PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: IMHO, we should keep dummy packages around for at least two releases, to support upgrades which skip one release. In practice, upgrades that skip a release are not

Re: GCC version change / C++ ABI change

2005-07-11 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 04 July 2005 11.51, Horms wrote: I am not sure about 3.4's ability to compile 2.4.27, but it seems unlikely to me that all of the gcc versions you mention above will be omitted from etch. I'm quite confident that the release team and/or gcc maintainers will agree that 'is needed to

Re: How to recognise different ETCH wishlists from quite a long way away (revised)

2005-07-11 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 11 July 2005 09.59, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 08:25:11AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: This is a huge list, with probably 0 chances of getting accomplished. How about this: remove every single item from the list, and only add items

Hosting for Debian machine

2005-07-11 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 07 July 2005 14.13, martin f krafft wrote: If you can help the Debian Project out in this area, we would `appreciate it`_.  Please contact the Debian host system administration team at [EMAIL PROTECTED], and feel free to contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well. The ETH Zurich

Re: Free Beer: Need packaging assistance...

2005-07-12 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 11.51, Mikael Olenfalk wrote: it was not my intention to state that Debian is about free beer Sorry - you misunderstood me. I tried to make a (bad) joke, nothing more. greetings -- vbi -- featured link: http://fortytwo.ch/smtp pgpXlfH0UtbyY.pgp Description: PGP

Re: GCC version change / C++ ABI change

2005-07-12 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 11 July 2005 22.18, Roger Leigh wrote: Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 04 July 2005 11.51, Horms wrote: I am not sure about 3.4's ability to compile 2.4.27, but it seems unlikely to me that all of the gcc versions you mention above will be omitted from etch

Re: is it a bug to not depend on a library package needed for some binary?

2005-07-21 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Sunday 17 July 2005 10.14, Karl Chen wrote: Suppose package P contains files /usr/bin/B1 and /usr/bin/B2. B1 is the important program, and B2 is not as important. Is it OK for the declared package dependencies to not satisfy all the run-time shared library dependencies of B2? What if

Re: Removal of transitional dummy packages

2005-07-21 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Sunday 17 July 2005 23.28, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10353 March 1977, Santiago Vila wrote: we need to remove from the archive all the Woody-to-Sarge transition dummy packages. No, that's not true, we don't *need* to remove woody-to-sarge dummy packages, as they are also woody-to-etch

Re: Mass-filing bugs based on piuparts?

2005-07-21 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 21 July 2005 14.41, Lars Wirzenius wrote: [piuparts] Go ahead - if you, as you say, investigate the bugs manually, it doesn't matter how you discovered the bug. Just curious: what kind of bugs can piuparts help discover? cheers -- vbi -- The jig's up, Elman.

Re: Please confirm (conf#1ce969f7398dbe523f2f81436bb3412d)

2005-07-22 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 21 July 2005 20.32, Kirk Reiser wrote: IMPORTANT INFORMATION! This is an automated message. The message you sent (attached below) requires confirmation before it can be delivered. To confirm that you sent the message below, just hit the Reply button and send this message back

Re: mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

2005-08-05 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 03 August 2005 00.46, Joey Hess wrote: [debconf dance] Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED]    postgrey tags +pending (fixed in svn) I hear a new upstream version is in the works, so I'll wait a week or two before uploading. cheers -- vbi -- featured product: SpamAssassin

Re: Please notify your rdepends' maintainers if you break an interface

2005-08-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Sunday 14 August 2005 02.40, Robert Collins wrote: On a related note, should we consider defining a convention similar to soname for dynamic languages like perl/python etc? I.e. for a python library 'foo', install the code as 'foo1', and have a dummy package 'foo' which has a __init__.py

Re: Using buildds only (was: Results of the meeting...)

2005-08-22 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 22 August 2005 16.08, W. Borgert wrote: [...] This is a really nice idea: A DD with a strange sense of humour could [...] If we're starting to worry about what kind of damage a DD can do to the world by providing some bogus uploads, let's just not. Any DD can cause code to be

Re: Results of the meeting in Helsinki about the Vancouver proposal

2005-08-22 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 22 August 2005 12.58, Marc Haber wrote: I can imagine that for archs with less than 50 machines reporting to popcon it could be possible to have some kind of registration mechanism. Uh, please don't add huge technical overhead for corner cases that will rarely happen, if ever. I'm

Re: Will the amd64 port be rejected because of the 98% rule?

2005-08-22 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 22 August 2005 12.17, Andreas Jochens wrote: On 05-Aug-22 11:48, Andreas Barth wrote: * Andreas Jochens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 11:36]: If not, what does the 98% rule really mean? Your port needs to be able to and does build the vast majority of the archive before we

Re: vancouver revisited

2005-08-22 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 22 August 2005 11.25, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote: [ the 'must have a working installer' requirement ] Trivial. debootstrap does that. Debootstrap is not an installer, in very much the same way that tar isn't, either. They both are. They can install debian, so it's an

Re: Will the amd64 port be rejected because of the 98% rule?

2005-08-23 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 06.44, Joe Smith wrote: By the way, i386 does not make the cut according to the vancouver prospect due to the number of buildds required. So are we left with 0 archs in etch? :) That will certainly speed up the release. LOL. Release NOW! Release now, damnit! I

Re: Results of the meeting in Helsinki about the Vancouver proposal

2005-08-23 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 22 August 2005 23.51, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 06:22:11PM +, W. Borgert wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 07:29:31PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: really matters: can we (the Debian project) maintain the port? Thus I propose we only limit on the number

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-26 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 17.15, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Make sure you use only POSIX features when doing this. I think grep -o is a GNU extension, FreeBSD doesn't have it for example. Doesn't the 'only POSIX' apply to the shell code only? At least, shouldn't it be judged on a

Re: long long support on all archs?

2005-09-01 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 31 August 2005 18.03, Florian Weimer wrote: * Lars Wirzenius: Isn't this: int64_t, which can, if necessary, be provided using suitable autotools magic. exactly the answer to your: [...] Some upstream developers have to deal with old Solaris installations, though. We might

Re: architecture-specific release criteria - requalification needed

2005-09-24 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 15.30, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [arch release criteria] Personally, I find the list of requirements sensible, and very understandable after the clarifying rounds on the lists.  This colors my view of the discussion. AOL!!1! The only thing I'd modify is the 50

Re: architecture-specific release criteria - requalification needed

2005-09-24 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 22 September 2005 11.15, Debian-armeb Porting Team wrote: We are keeping patches[7] for the armeb port separate, and are ready to contribute them now, or at any future time that is more appropriate. Another chicken-and-egg - are package maintainers expected to accept patches for

Re: Please have a look guys

2005-10-01 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 17.36, you wrote: Please have a look at this guys. [word document attached] [silly disclaimer to finish it] Please, do not post word documents on this list. For several reasons: - we're reading email here. Why should I need to start an additional application

Re: Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.

2005-10-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 01 October 2005 17.07, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: But your reaction proves that the name cinelerra-cvs is misleading. But IMHO that's not something the Debian packager can do anything other than write it in the description. Renaming the package would only confuse users searching for

buzz/rex binaries/install media?

2005-10-18 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Yo! (Yes, I thought about sending this to -curiosa instead... :-) For research/fun/..., I want to install historical versions of Debian. Does anybody have install media of rex and buzz? I guess it is possible to create packages by starting at bo and compiling the older binaries, but I don't

Re: buzz/rex binaries/install media?

2005-10-20 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 19.40, Matej Vela wrote: See http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-linux/distributions/debian/1.1/ for buzz disks. Thanks. Now, does anybody know if buzz/Linux 2.0.0's 'ne' driver didn't support realtek PCI network cards, or if it's a qemu problem? (I suspect the

Re: what to do with iputils (ping, etc)

2005-10-22 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 21 October 2005 22.22, Noah Meyerhans wrote: It depends on what you mean by up to date. If we're only including glibc headers, then we can only use functionality that glibc supports. If we bypass glibc and directly use kernel functionality, then we get all the latest and greatest

Re: Bug#335173: ITP: dspam -- Highly accurate and fast statistical spam filter

2005-10-22 Thread Adrian von Bidder
merge 335173 195948 thanks On Saturday 22 October 2005 12.08, Rudolf Weeber wrote: * Package name: dspam I am packaging this program, because we are using it the students' representation at university, and having a standardized, easy to install package would be very handy. Have you

Re: ITP: jahshaka -- Realtime editing and effects system

2005-10-23 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Just a few hints for the future: - you should not cc: a wnpp bug (ITP, RFP, ...) to d-devel, because these bugs go to d-devel anyway. - if you want to cc: a bug submission somewhere, please use the X-Debbugs-CC: header (read up in the bts documentation) instead of directly cc-ing, because

Re: Versioned BTS question:

2005-10-24 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Sunday 23 October 2005 21.48, Ken Bloom wrote: I'm tracking through some old bugs I submitted, cleaning up. I'd like to close bug 256715, because jpilot and gtk-engines-smooth no longer interact (because jpilot uses GTK+2 now). What's the appropriate version to specify to the BTS? If you

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-03 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 03 November 2005 04.37, Erast Benson wrote: If don't, Nexenta will continue its way more like Ubuntu does. You'll hire heaps of Debian developers and actually pay people to contribute their stuff back to Debian? Now there's a thing! Which Debian developers are in your pay (just

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 03 November 2005 08.32, Erast Benson wrote: Matthew: [...] whether you want to be part of A Debian Release. Hard to say right now... Lets see how all this thing will progress. But, *yes* we are willing to cooperate. So I guess this summarizes the technical side of this

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 03 November 2005 20.51, Erast Benson wrote: HW vendors will *never* open their IP in drivers. Ok, this becomes a bit OT here, but let me just remark that Linux today supports a *lot* of hardware, and that quite a few drivers (some RAID controllers, Intel SATA stuff, most of the

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 04 November 2005 19.00, Andrew Suffield wrote: Complete bullshit. Get a life. plonk Ahhh, yet another instance of asuffield. -- vbi -- featured product: GNU Privacy Guard - http://gnupg.org pgpToLVOlXVEk.pgp Description: PGP signature

GPL... (was: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program)

2005-11-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 04 November 2005 14.33, John Hasler wrote: Wouter Verhelst writes: Any *distributed* changes to foo.c must be contributed back to the community. That's not true either. Any distributed changes must be made available to those to whom the changes were distributed. In practice

Re: apt-proxy

2005-11-07 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 07 November 2005 15.53, Ian Campbell wrote: On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 11:51 +1100, Brian May wrote: However, I prefer the approach over apt-cacher, as the apt-sources entries remain independent of the server that will be used to retrieve the files. Is there a good alternative? I

Re: Debian DPL Debate Comments

2005-03-19 Thread Adrian von Bidder
[cc to you - I don't know if you read the list] On Friday 18 March 2005 17.22, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: As for example, it's been now around 7 years for me now using Linux and I do have a fair amount of knowledge now. It would be great if DD's here could harness the skills in wannabe

Re: Sarge release for amd64 - Please help to fix the remaining bugs

2005-04-25 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 25 April 2005 14.51, Andreas Jochens wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: libmysqlclient-lgpl - Linuxthreads test has to be switched off for amd64 [...] Unfortunately, quite a few important packages still Build-Depend on libmysqlclient10-dev: exim4 Does that mean amd64 installer

Re: Free Game Console

2005-04-30 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 30 April 2005 07.54, Dillinger wrote: Hi, I invented Macromedia Flash. [...] Can I get one of those things your're smoking? -- vbi -- Could this mail be a fake? (Answer: No! - http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/intro) pgp2E1218gns7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Dualing banjos

2005-05-08 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 07 May 2005 16.56, Brad and Billie Fick wrote: do you know how I can get the sheet music to this? If so I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you There we go again. I am so glad this happens, helps to lighten the mood everywhere and certainly eases the way to general happiness in

Re: Bug#309241: ITP: dguitar -- Guitar Pro 3/4 tabs viewer and player

2005-05-17 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Sunday 15 May 2005 23.24, Grzegorz Bizon wrote: Description : Guitar Pro 3/4 tabs viewer and player Somebody should file a wishlist bug against all guitar related software packages to include a certain song as example data. I won't name it. If you're new on this list, google for

Re: removing ipfwadm

2005-05-17 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 16 May 2005 23.27, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 16, Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure whether the ipfwadm package should be removed. Kernels up to 2.4 still have support for ipfwadm filtering rules, so theoretically people could still be using it with current

Re: updated cogito package - now with docs!

2005-05-17 Thread Adrian von Bidder
[cc:ed as I don't know if you read both -devel and -mentors] On Wednesday 11 May 2005 22.05, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: [cogito] Sebastian, can I humbly request that you don't announce cogito package updates on (at least the -devel) mailing list? While I - and, I guess, many others - are

Re: RFC: A new video-related section

2005-05-27 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 27 May 2005 14.15, Gergely Nagy wrote: On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:13 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: the right thing to do would be to switch from sections, to keywords, so that kmplayer could live in sound + video + kde, instead of multimedia that is not very informative. Now

Re: How to find really old source of the shadow package

2005-05-30 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 30 May 2005 02.03, Nicolas François wrote: Does anybody know where I can find older sources? [ of shadow ] - have you tried asking the shadow maintainers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - perhaps somebody has old CVS repositories or whatever lying around? - The Debian changelog goes back to

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-05-31 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 31 May 2005 19.17, Stephen Birch wrote: Still looks more like a fork than a derivative . or a spoon :-) I have problems with your terminology - what do you mean by 'fork', and what do you mean by 'derivative'? To my understanding, Ubuntu is certainly a derivative of Debian

Re: notes on deckit WAP phone simulator

2005-06-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 04 June 2005 07.50, venkat prasad wrote: sir, can u please give me the information bout the decik WAP phone simulator.i.e., the brief description about the phone simulator. As far as I can tell, Debian does not ship the decit WAP phone simulator, so I don't know what

Re: Perl or Java project

2005-06-05 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 04 June 2005 19.20, Joshua Jackson wrote: Where could I find out about projects that still need developers. I could code in perl and java. Please tell me where I can read the resources regarding to the available projects in debian. Java: A group of people tries very hard to get as

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-07 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 01.03, Javier Fernndez-Sanguino Pea wrote: [ End user improvements ] - better support for displaying as many languages as possible without having to search for corresponding font packages. From what I can see gnome is slightly better than KDE in replacing missing

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-07 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 01.47, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Jun 07, Javier Fernndez-Sanguino Pea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my wishlist there is NO support of 2.4 kernels Hmm. I've never verified this myself, however until recently it was often claimed that 2.6 is still quite a bit worse than 2.4

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 19.51, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Jun 07, Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my wishlist there is NO support of 2.4 kernels Hmm. I've never verified this myself, however until recently it was often claimed that 2.6 is still quite a bit worse than 2.4

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 23.32, Roger Leigh wrote: Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 07 June 2005 23:02, Roger Leigh wrote: Existing installs are already configured with debconf. Their /etc/locale.gen will not be touched. If you do dpkg-reconfigure locales, then users could

Re: Bug#312669: /sbin/ifconfig: Add ifconfig to user path

2005-06-11 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 10 June 2005 10.40, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: Hello Olaf, On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:58:21PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: ifconfig is in /sbin and only in root's path. But ifconfig is runnable and useful for normal users, so it'd be nice if it could be added to the path of

Re: TODO for etch ?

2005-06-11 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 10 June 2005 21.39, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Hello. Is the TODO list for etch available anywhere? It is now. http://wiki.debian.net/?EtchTODOList Please help updating it. Because I really mean it, I repeat here the guidelines that I feel can keep this list useful instead of

Re: Bug#312897: ITP: texlive -- The TeXlive system packaged for debian

2005-06-13 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 13 June 2005 09.41, frank wrote: [texlive vs. teTeX] Let me add some comments from my point of view (Debian teTeX maintainer). Sounds like packaging texlive and trying to get it really stable would be the thing to do, with the goal of phasing out teTeX for etch+1 Not becuase I don't

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 13 June 2005 23.00, John Hasler wrote: Jesus Climent writes: Exactly my point, what impedes an admin to set some defaults wether the system comes as it comes now or with some predefined options and settings? Nothing, except for the fact that most admins haven't the foggiest idea

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 08.00, Eric Dorland wrote: 3. Accept MoFo's offer of Debian-specific trademark usage. I don't believe #3 is acceptable under the DFSG. IMHO this *trademark* license corresponds quite exactly to the *copyright* license that require renaming on change, which seems to

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 18.21, Eric Dorland wrote: * Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is DFSG 4 if not a grudging acceptance of this sort of behaviour as free? (This is a compromise.

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 16.20, Humberto Massa Guimares wrote: * Towns :: Does calling it firefox or thunderbird hurt free software? At first, no. But it *does* hurt our users. Why? Because they are confident that getting something from the Debian mirror, modifying it and re-distributing

Re: Bug#313569: ITP: LinuxTaRT -- The Automatic Random Tagline, a versatile, fast and feature-rich email signature generator

2005-06-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 14.24, Colin Tuckley wrote: TaRT features include random taglines, optional daemon functionality, display of current date, custom layout of signature, and special date tagline text. The command line syntax is simple and well explained. LinuxTaRT is designed to be run as

mail clients and threading... (was: Re: And now for something completely different... etch!)

2005-06-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 19.14, Humberto Massa Guimarães wrote: [...] Hmmm. Is it just my kmail, or does your mailer produce strange (or no?) In-Reply-To headers? All your posts I saw (and none others afaict) appeared to be in reply to some completely irrelevant other message in the same

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-23 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 20.02, Olaf van der Spek wrote: [debian infrastructure] I've been wondering, would it be an idea (for the long-term) to use (more) distributed ... or p2p concepts to reduce the dependency and load on central servers? You said it yourself: in the long term. I think

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

2005-06-27 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 27 June 2005 18.15, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: [circular dependencies] [uninstalling foo-data at libfoo uninstall] This should really be fixed in the packaging tool -- aptitude will handle this very elegantly, maybe bringing its expanded package states to libapt itself would be

Re: May one use ~rc1 within versions although older lintians are complaining?

2007-03-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 20.23:16 Roman Müllenschläder wrote: Because my laptop, where I'm building the packages on, is running Edgy ;) Maybe I should compile lintian by hand ... tried using sources from feisty but they need to much dependencies ... If you're building packages for Debian,

Re: Compiling Debs on AMD vs. Intel and 32bit vs. 64bit

2007-03-15 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 15 March 2007 20.02:14 Greg Folkert wrote: And for clarity, IA32 cover 32-bit Intel and works for AMD 32-bit processors. IA64 is the Itanium series of processors, amd64 cover the AMD K8/Opteron processors AND the Intel emt64* Intel processors. ... and just for completeness: x86_64

Re: Compiling Debs on AMD vs. Intel and 32bit vs. 64bit

2007-03-17 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 17 March 2007 09.29:10 Peter Samuelson wrote: x86=64 would have been amusing too.  Is it a veiled Commodore 64 reference, or is it quoted-printable? Not to speak of broken mime decoders that would just display x86d. I'd rather say it's to do something with Georg Orwell. If 2+2=5,

Re: many rejects (Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007)

2007-03-31 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 29 March 2007 06.24:52 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:52:33 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You do not handle signing subkeys? What makes you think that? Any key

Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007

2007-03-31 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 30 March 2007 08.47:53 Manoj Srivastava wrote: OK, so please take this honest.         I don't think I have ever been dishonest about it. Amused,  perhaps, dishonest, no. Language issue. s/honest/serious/ Admittedly, I'm guessing. cheers -- vbi -- The young lady had an

Re: many rejects (Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007)

2007-04-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Sunday 01 April 2007 23:19, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2007, Adrian von Bidder wrote: IIRC signing subkeys are not accepted at package uploads, so maybe that's what you were thinking about. AFAIK, they are. Policy URLs are not accepted, that's what I was thinking

Xorg 7.2

2007-04-17 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Yo! Just a quick heads-up for those who don't read planet and have been wondering why Xorg 7.2 is lingering in experimental: There's an excellent announcement on David Nusinov's blog at http://gravityboy.livejournal.com/34738.html. I wish such stuff would be posted to the mailing lists and

Re: UNSUSCRIBE

2007-04-18 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 20.51:16 Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: man procmailrc On gmail? -- vbi -- this email is protected by a digital signature: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg pgpjhb3v1ODBT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Xorg 7.2

2007-04-21 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 19 April 2007 03.15:21 David Nusinow wrote: We need to push XCB forward though, and how to deal with the java bug mentioned in that post isn't clear yet. What I don't quite understand is how a non-free package should block this upgrade. Yes, Java is used by a lot of people and

To whoever will take over mysql (... and to everybody else thinking about playing games with version numbers)

2007-05-03 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Please DO NOT DO THIS AGAIN: +++ $ apt-cache policy mysql-server-4.1 mysql-server-4.1: Installed: (none) Candidate: 5.0.32-7etch1 Version table: 5.0.38-3 0 600 http://syydelaervli unstable/main Packages 5.0.38-1 0 700 http://syydelaervli lenny/main Packages

Re: To whoever will take over mysql (... and to everybody else thinking about playing games with version numbers)

2007-05-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 04 May 2007 08:45, sean finney wrote: hi, On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 07:52 +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: An unfortunate string of events lead me to upgrade a server from sarge to etch, using the mysql-server-4.1 package and stupidly assuming that a package with the package name

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 22.46:30 Kris Deugau wrote: I've been writing custom utilities and libraries for various systems at work, and with one particular project recently it's become (more) important to know exactly which Debian release it's running on (at some stage or other between

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 01 June 2007 20.51:27 Kris Deugau wrote: Instead, we try to make them work as far as their dependencies are met. ... which means what, exactly, if my program expects /usr/lib/apache2/suexec but the system (stock Debian sarge) only has /usr/lib/apache2/suexec2?  Or vice versa for

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 04 June 2007 14.20:46 Frank Küster wrote: Michael Welle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The german term 'Sturmbahn' as in 'Sturmbahnfahrer' describes a trail were you have to vanquish some barriers to train your physical fitness. [...] [1] and I'm german, not swiss as my sig might

Re: Please all dependency info into your init.d script

2007-07-12 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 10 July 2007 20.04:38 Russ Allbery wrote: Toni Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Slapd may require an external SQL server if a suitable backend is defined, and I guess that a whole slew of other applications have similar problems. You should require everything you might use

Find complete set of debs

2007-09-06 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi! [please cc: me. Thank you.] How can I (more or less efficiently - I do have a script but it's very crude and probably buggy) download all .debs (and for bonus points the source pkgs, too) that belong to some .deb that I have (same src package, same version)? cheers -- vbi -- So

Re: Find complete set of debs

2007-09-07 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 07 September 2007 09.48:36 Adeodato Simó wrote: * Adrian von Bidder [Fri, 07 Sep 2007 07:49:19 +0200]: No, all the other .deb packages that come from the same source pkg as the one I have. (But usually I only want i386 and all architectures.) Time to properly learn grep-dctrl, I

Re: Find complete set of debs

2007-09-06 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 06 September 2007 19.33:50 Neil Williams wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:45:28 +0200 Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I (more or less efficiently - I do have a script but it's very crude and probably buggy) download all .debs (and for bonus points the source

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2007-10-19 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 19 October 2007 17.52:29 Steve Kemp wrote: I don't believe that post contains significant new information, (except that I like pies!), and as such I didn't believe it deserved massive visibility. That you like pies is important. Seriously: I think exactly this kind of not

Bits from the Security Team

2007-10-19 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi everybody, Allow me to point out the message at http://blog.steve.org.uk/articles/2007/10/19/as-i-move-on-through-the-year which is really a Bits from the Security Team. Why is - once again - a message that I'd consider appropriate for d-d, or perhaps even d-d-a (though I admit that the

Bug#607043: ITP: jwhoisserver -- Java Whois Server - a small whois server written in java

2010-12-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +++ * Package name: jwhoisserver Version : 3.3.0 or newer Upstream Author : Klaus Zerwes zero-sys.net zero...@users.sourceforge.net * URL

Re: Bug#566126: ITP: openpgm -- Implementation of the Pragmatic General Multicast protocol

2011-01-13 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi Steven, On Thursday 13 January 2011 13.18:58 Steven McCoy wrote: A year later and I have a basic Autoconf/Automake system in trunk for OpenPGM ready to package for Debian. Nice to see progress, note that I'm not involved in zeromq packaging anymore (except to sponsor the odd upload)

Re: Equivalent packages between Linux distributions

2011-01-19 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 19 January 2011 00.54:44 Silvio Cesare wrote: I have generated a list of roughly equivalent packages between Linux distributions (currently Debian 5 and Fedora 13). The list is automatically generated. Cool! Maybe I have missed a pointer or whatever: how did you compute this

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 04 February 2011 12.47:21 Fernando Lemos wrote: do, say, an apt-get upgrade, apt prepares an upgrade plan that uses a given set of packages. If apt wouldn't lock [...] new plan would have to be created, the user would have to be asked for confirmation again. Doesn't sound that great.

Re: The node command in Debian

2011-02-07 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 07 February 2011 13.54:24 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: 1. they can declare a conflict with each other, so that the packaging system will never let both get installed in the same system. JavaScript and AX.25 sounds like it might be quite a distance in terms of people

Re: Qt3 removal rational

2011-02-08 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 09 February 2011 01.12:57 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: Of course, we can simply orphan Qt 3, and hope somebody will step up to maintain it; we are unconvinced this is a responsible step for us to take as it would place the maintenance burden of a large package onto

Re: Kernel

2011-02-08 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Heyho! On Tuesday 08 February 2011 22.57:51 Pontus Andersson wrote: Hi. I like to make a request regarding the Debian Linux kernel. I think the tux boot should be compiled with the Debian logo.. With tux boot I mean that some distros e.g. Arch and slackware boots with the logo while

Re: Bug#612694: ITP: scanmonitord -- scanner button daemon

2011-02-09 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi, On Thursday 10 February 2011 01.32:12 Jakub Wilk wrote: Description : scanner button daemon Scanmonitord is a daemon which runs device monitors on one or more devices. [...] I'm curious (and you might want to add it to the description): does this tie in with modern desktop

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-02-27 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 26 February 2011 21.44:07 Tollef Fog Heen wrote: I'd like us to decide on a policy about enable/disable flags in /etc/default in general. +1 on those who don't like to have them. The init scripts (or whatever) need to * provide a sane default for startup order * allow users to

Re: Potential memory leaks reported by Valgrind against some frequently used commands

2011-03-01 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi! On Wednesday 02 March 2011 03.38:42 Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/01/2011 06:19 AM, ximalaya wrote: Hi all, [snip] BTW, I ever tried on Redhat Linux 9, no such problem. This is the interesting part. Is RH keeping their patches, or are upstream and other distros just not determining

Re: Call for projects for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 10.43:44 Ana Guerrero wrote: Debian is applying as mentoring organization to the Google Summer of Code (GSoC) this year Dealing with the init scripts / service enable / disable mess. See current d-devel discussion. As much a discussion / social skills project as a

Re: Speeding up dpkg, a proposal

2011-03-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 17.02:11 Marius Vollmer wrote: - Instead, we move all packages that are to be unpacked into half-installed / reinstreq before touching the first one, and put a big sync() right before carefully writing /var/lib/dpkg/status. You don't want to do this. While

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