In debian.devel.user Guus Sliepen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Add the bonding module to /etc/modules, so that bond0 exists when the
network interfaces are brought up. Then you can do something like:
iface bond0 inet static
address 0.0.0.0
netmask 0.0.0.0
slaves eth0 eth1
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The only thing that I miss from ifupdown (and I configured bonds, bridges
and vlans) is a good IPv6 support. I can’t separately activate or
deactivate IPv4 or IPv6 parts of an interface.
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rest alone in the default installation.
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of the base installation and handling my
network without me choosing to do so.
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looked like this I could live
with the fact not being able to (de)activate one part of a dual stack
interface.
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And I had already people in my company who asked me why they didn’t find
a certain application in their menu. Well, it was filtered because other
people thought they shouldn’t see this application in the environment the
users were using.
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I don’t know what XFCE does now, but I use mostly the shell to start
applications, because I don’t want to look through to menu only to find
out that someone thought I shouldn’t see the application.
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address types (say
one fixed address, so you know how to reach the system, and one dynamic
address (privacy extension) for outgoing traffic)?
If not yet, is this feature planned?
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addresses have to be
activated later.
Any hints are welcome.
Maybe this is the wrong list and the discussion should be moved to
debian-user? If yes feel free. I’m reading both lists.
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sysklogd, syslog-ng and rsyslog. But
I don’t think it is worth to replace sysvinit.
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:37:48PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 21 juillet 2011 à 20:01 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
So, since you don’t need it, other people don’t need it either?
No, since I don’t need it, I don’t want to be forced to use it.
You know, there are some who just
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:46:54AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le vendredi 22 juillet 2011 à 09:58 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
So, since you don’t need it, other people don’t need it either?
No, since I don’t need it, I don’t want to be forced to use it.
So you prefer to force your crap
.
Of course, if we decide that systemd has to run on kfreebsd as well
before we change the default init, then the migration will last longer.
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it is not even a configuration
file.
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# 3)
# -r enables logging from remote machines (deprecated, only used in
# compat mode 3)
# -x disables DNS lookups on messages received with -r
# -c compatibility mode
# See rsyslogd(8) for more details
RSYSLOGD_OPTIONS=”-c5”
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the unit files not configuration files to begin with like init scripts?
In my eyes they all belong in /etc.
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„exit 0” version. And talking with other people, this seems to be far
easier to remember if they want to revert the change.
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am no interested in changing this good tradition.
So please don’t break other people’s setup.
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. But / was ext2 for a long time (good enough for
small partitions), now it has ext3. So it can always be repaired with
a rescue DVD.
So I am not really interested in making the important boot/repair
partition bigger than necessary.
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:20:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Oct 13, Stephan Seitz stse+deb...@fsing.rootsland.net wrote:
- I think that the probability that defective hard drive sectors
will hit a small partition is less. So your „repair partition”
will probably boot at least
even not supported on
the platform.
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On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 01:11:56PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Dec 07, Stephan Seitz stse+deb...@fsing.rootsland.net wrote:
But as was seen in the last discussion, not everyone *has* an
initramfs, because it is not needed in many cases or sometimes even
not supported on the platform
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 01:44:28PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
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Yes, but by the admin, not by Debian, and the admin may not be
interested in adding a new layer of possible failures, because it
works.
And other admins may
forcing the user to have /usr on the /-partition.
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system services which GNOME depends on, presumably.
Such services should not be started in the early boot stage. And when the
system switches to runlevel 2, /usr is mounted.
So, this is no excuse.
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release to another without reinstalling
everything. This is one of the main reasons why I use Debian.
If you wish to through this great advantage away because of crappy
software, fine. But be prepared that you will lose people.
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that no rootkit module could be loaded). Most of these admins
have /usr separated from /.
Should all these admins start repartitioning their systems or fiddle with
initramfs?
We can do this with new systems, yes, but not with the old ones.
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think
performance issues are a problem.
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-platform distribution.
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 02:10:29PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Mar 15, Stephan Seitz stse+deb...@fsing.rootsland.net wrote:
Okay, I am not a DD,
This pretty much explains why you are not qualified to partecipate to
this discussion.
You do not seem to be interested in having users, do you
will solve these problems when you have
dependencies outside the box you are booting. The local admin has to
check if all timings are right and must adjust them if they are not
fitting.
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is „better”. Without this
definition we won’t get the right solution. I prefer several half-assed
options I can choose from instead of having one solution I don’t like and
I can’t change. Then I can use Windows again.
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or sysctl.
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, without any kind of default anywhere else.
Yes, because I know that something is wrong when it breaks. This is
better than the software is working but not anymore as you expect.
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think we can force one of the cases as rule via policy, so the
etc-directory should contain a README (e.g. in /etc/udev/rules.d)
explaining how to change the default configuration.
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with about 10 or 20 GB, much
easier to spare than RAM.
So I don’t see the advantage of using tmpfs as default, but d-i should
offer the option to put /tmp on tmpfs if the admin wishes it.
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c:\temp. ;-)
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be
used. But for a default installation /tmp belongs to a disk which will be
far bigger than the memory. If a user thinks tmpfs will get him an
advantage in his setup, then he can switch.
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need
more.
If this is not the meaning of /tmp, then rename it.
Diskspace is cheap and easier to spare than my RAM. So, yes, if someone
has one 3TB partition which is writeable, then /tmp belongs to disk not
to RAM.
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wishes to change the setting to
keep files in /tmp even after reboot, you can’t use tmpfs, even if you
don’t have enough space left. You can only print a warning message but
not ignore the local configuration.
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(and
so getting problems with databases or logs), /var/tmp is always a link to
/tmp.
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On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:09:31AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Stephan Seitz stse+deb...@fsing.rootsland.net writes:
Don’t you think this is getting quite ridiculous? Big temporary
files belong in your $HOME, but small temporary files in /tmp? Only to
switch /tmp from disk to RAM?
No, I
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without
problems as well.
Both things are nothing a standard desktop user can do by its own, but
the standard desktop user will certainly have more disk space than RAM,
so I’m glad this tmpfs for tmp crap is off by default.
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Will Wheezy support SSDs out of the box with all trimming functions,
even if your SSD partition is using LUKS and LVM?
Depends on what you mean by out of the box. I suspect you still need to
turn on discard
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:28:59AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 06/10/2012 11:55 PM, Stephan Seitz wrote:
Well, if I start Virtual Box on my notebook (4 GB RAM), the system
uses the swap partition.
Frankly, I don't know what the fuck virtualbox is doing
with its memory management, but I
mount”
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to the setting of TMPTIME. You need
tmpreaper to clean /tmp on systems which rarely reboot. And then you have
the same problem with tmpfs.
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shortlived temporary files to use /tmpfs
instead in Debian. But by default we should not give up disk based /tmp
for a default installation.
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temporary directory they belong today.
Besides if you set TMPDIR to /home/tmp, you don’t need /tmp at all, no
matter if tmpfs or not. If you want a system tmp create one and set
TMPDIR for these system services.
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Yes, it is, but if tmpfs is seen as an advantage because /tmp can’t block
the system anymore and prevent DOS attacks (among others), this doesn’t
sound so good anymore if you can as easily block the system by filling
/var/tmp or /var/log.
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shouldn’t use discard in fstab, but you need the
option in crypttab and lvm.conf (or TRIM requests are filtered)? Or don’t
you need any discard options in any layer to get fstrim to work?
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On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:43:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:46:16PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
So most of your Debian systems have several users working at the
same time on the same system? Okay, then you have a different user
base.
webserver.
Sorry, I
running at the end of
the boot process), but for now I still don’t see any reason to change.
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, you can ignore NM.
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And if it has, it doesn’t mean you can reach the keyserver.
So you can use something like „fping -q keyserver”, if the keyserver is
pingeable. Any other check is not really usefull.
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On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 02:19:19PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Stephan Seitz stse+deb...@fsing.rootsland.net writes:
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 01:08:53PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Never mind wireless lan where you've got a well defined kernel API. Try
to configure a modern 3G/LTE modem using
to
use it. And I would wish those people would go away to Windows. There
they can play with shiny new software which doesn’t really work.
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it on others. There are
no features in systemd that I would dump the well known sysvinit.
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answer from a judge in the end.
Or do we need to ask different lawyers in different countries? Is the
answer in one country enough? This may affect mirror operators.
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it takes
less than 10 seconds to reconfigure the sound device in the application.
So why should I use pulseaudio?
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setups to find bugs.
Users (at least users from Debian Stable) are not beta testers.
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And how is this problem solved? The library which most software can use
or the library which has a maintainer?
I’m using the Multimedia repository anyway because I want MythTV which is
only available there. So I have ffmpeg.
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forwarded a patch upstream.
I did a „setcap cap_sys_ptrace+eip /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_procs”,
but a normal user can’t still check for running programs of another user.
What did I wrong?
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@osgiliath]: file /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_procs
/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_procs: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object…
If I do a „chmod u+s check_procs” it works. But I think capabilities are
a safer solution than s-bit.
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teaching XFCE.
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On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:13:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le vendredi 04 avril 2014 à 15:25 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
and modern hardware.
This is no longer a requirement in jessie, at least on x86 where
llvmpipe is now accepted as a GL engine.
Ah, thank you.
The default
switched to dependency-based boot. Which did cause
We still have init scripts without LSB headers in our environment. No one
is planning to fix them. There is even new third party software shipping
init scripts without LSB headers.
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Hi!
I sent the attached message to debian-release, but I was told to ask in
debian-devel.
So here is the mail.
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the correct expression
for cron? cron-daemon|cron?
Is this a release critical bug? As a testing user I now have problems
using bcron.
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generalised statements about people by
assuming that all people are thinking like you.
If you don’t want choices you can stay with Windows. There is no reason
to make Linux like Windows.
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the files should be moved backed to /etc. In the second
case changed defaults should be documented in the changelog or readme.
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On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 04:00:42PM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2014, Stephan Seitz wrote:
Of course not. syslog-ng was not replaced by rsyslog when Debian
changed the default syslog.
Note that syslog-ng was not the default, but sysklogd (which was)
wasn’t replaced either
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SLES is using some strange interface names like em1 or p1p2, but I hate
it. I prefer my eth0 name.
Shade and sweet water!
Stephan
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Shade and sweet water!
Stephan
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/interfaces in an easy way.
The packages vlan and ifenslave are working very well.
That said I think it would be very cool if I could configure VLANs and
bonds with the Debian installer.
Shade and sweet water!
Stephan
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interfaces.
You can do this with the ip command but you have to do everything
manually.
The same goes for the ifenslave package.
So, yes, someone can file a bug.
Greetings,
Stephan
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