Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Eric Smith
Ben Finney wrote: But it's also plausible that the author of that statement is referring to a license *from government* specific to design, construction, operation or maintenance of nuclear facilities, and nothing to do with copyright: the government does not license the recipient for these

Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com [120915 20:38]: I quoted from the Sun license on Java3D: * You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or * intended for use in the design, construction, operation or * maintenance of any nuclear facility. Steve Langasek wrote: This is a

Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org wrote: * Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com [120915 20:38]: I quoted from the Sun license on Java3D: * You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or * intended for use in the design, construction, operation or *

Re: Bug#687693: ca-certificates: Cacert License is missing

2012-09-16 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:35:09 -0500 Raphael Geissert wrote: Hi everyone, Hello Raphael, mejiko: thanks for pointing it out, I'm forwarding your report to our debian-legal mailing list to seek their opinion. Thanks for asking. Please note that you may receive multiple and possibly

Re: Bug#687693: ca-certificates: Cacert License is missing

2012-09-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Raphael Geissert: TL;RD; RDL looks non-free, Philipp Dunkel from CAcert says Debian is fine (to distribute) because of the disclaimer re the certificates included in ca- certificates, Fedora says it is non-free. What do the others think about it? If we take CA certificate license

Re: New package algol68toc: terms of the copyright.

2012-09-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
Chris wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:44:17AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: INAL, so someone feel free to call me wrong. Comments inline. I'll call me wrong: 09:31 Ganneff svuorela: name the/a organisation, not

Re: New package algol68toc: terms of the copyright.

2012-09-16 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:25:21 +0100 Steve McIntyre wrote: [...] Please point to the DFSG section that mentions the dissident test. This has been asked a number of times on debian-legal and has already been answered: https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/09/msg00215.html

Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Ben Finney
Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com writes: Ben Finney wrote: But it's also plausible that the author of that statement is referring to a license *from government* specific to design, construction, operation or maintenance of nuclear facilities, and nothing to do with copyright: the government

Re: New package algol68toc: terms of the copyright.

2012-09-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
Francesco Poli wrote: Please let's try and avoid running in circles... *rotfl* -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com We're the technical experts. We were hired so that management could ignore our recommendations and tell us how to do our jobs. --

Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:39:23PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: I quoted from the Sun license on Java3D: * You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or * intended for use in the design, construction, operation or * maintenance of any nuclear facility. Steve Langasek wrote:

Re: New package algol68toc: terms of the copyright.

2012-09-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 01:25:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit : Chris wrote: I think this clause in the license absolutely fails the dissident test Please point to the DFSG section that mentions the dissident test. Hi Steve, I think that the dissident test and others are indirectly

Re: Bug#687693: ca-certificates: Cacert License is missing

2012-09-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:35:09PM -0500, Raphael Geissert a écrit : Hi everyone, mejiko: thanks for pointing it out, I'm forwarding your report to our debian-legal mailing list to seek their opinion. On Saturday 15 September 2012 03:15:10 mejiko wrote: [...] ca-certificates packeages

Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: * You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or * intended for use in the design, construction, operation or * maintenance of any nuclear facility. This is a standard No warranty clause wrt nuclear facilities in the US. It is not a