On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 09:57:07AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Hi everybody, thanks a lot to Francesco for getting me back into the
loop and for providing some additional useful feedback.
To keep you posted on this issue: I've forwarded a request for advice to
the SPI board. My suggestion
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 07:54:03PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote:
Thanks Joss for the Cc, as I'm not subscribed to -legal (so please
keep the Cc on replies).
Done.
Hi everybody, thanks a lot to Francesco for getting me back into the
loop and for providing some additional useful feedback.
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 05:24:05PM -0600, Michael Cassano wrote:
I didn't get the exact parameters needed to obtain Debian's logo, but I did
show that they are not default.
But you didn't show they aren't trivial to unpurposefully reproduce.
Mike
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To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to
But copyright doesn't apply to independent invention, which he claims this
is, and which seems fairly reasonable. If he independently invented it we
only have a trademark claim; if we don't have a trademark claim we have
none
Have you actually looked at it? It's not similar. It's identical.
Can it really be reasonable, in any sense of the word, to
believe that this company would independently invent an identical
logo, pixel for pixel, changing only the hue.
No, not reasonable. Unless both copied from the same swirl. Which seems
reasonable. See
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Alessandro Rubini
rub...@arcana.linux.it wrote:
Can it really be reasonable, in any sense of the word, to
believe that this company would independently invent an identical
logo, pixel for pixel, changing only the hue.
No, not reasonable. Unless both copied from
The message from 2005 seems to indicate it was produced using Illustrator,
not Photoshop.
Attached is an image I just created using Illustrator 14.0.0, my goal was to
recreate the Debian logo. I used the 'rough charcoal' brush with the swirl
tool. I didn't create the original Debian logo but it
Correct, I swirled it too much, that is my point.
What are the odds that the blue logo in question swirled their logo
pixel-for-pixel the same as Debian's? I believe the odds are low given the
couple minutes of work I put into using the tool (Illustrator).
Mike
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:30 AM,
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 10:40:55AM -0600, Michael Cassano wrote:
Correct, I swirled it too much, that is my point.
What are the odds that the blue logo in question swirled their logo
pixel-for-pixel the same as Debian's? I believe the odds are low given the
couple minutes of work I put into
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:47:23 +0100 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
[...]
Thanks Joss for the Cc, as I'm not subscribed to -legal (so please keep
the Cc on replies).
Done.
I've read the thread and I do have some questions for the list. As far
as I can tell, there is no *trademark* violation
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:36:44AM +0100, Alessandro Rubini wrote:
FYI - A computer shop has taken the Debian logo and used it for his
business.
http://imgur.com/gFKfs.jpg
Thank you for making this jpeg, it's very clear.
[...]
The comapny Logo was created by photoshop and Logo
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 02:50:04PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:36:44AM +0100, Alessandro Rubini wrote:
FYI - A computer shop has taken the Debian logo and used it for his
business.
http://imgur.com/gFKfs.jpg
Thank you for making this jpeg, it's very
I didn't get the exact parameters needed to obtain Debian's logo, but I did
show that they are not default.
Mike
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote:
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 02:50:04PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:36:44AM +0100,
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 02:40:25PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Stefano just mentioned that it would be better to CC him if we want
something to be done to do something. So here we go.
Thanks Joss for the Cc, as I'm not subscribed to -legal (so please keep
the Cc on replies).
I've read the
Hi,
Josselin Mouette a écrit :
A trademark is a trademark. If we don’t enforce it, we lose it.
Absolutly but I believe that the swirl is not include in the Debian's
trademark.
So, currently, the blue swirl could only be a copyright violation.
Bye,
--
Arnaud Fouquaut
http://arno.skamp.eu.org
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
As far as I can tell (IANAL, and before contacting SPI lawyer) what we
should ask Legend PC is then to come into compliance of the license, by
mentioning copyright and permission notices.
But copyright doesn't apply to independent invention, which
Hi,
Le 30/11/10 23:46, Ken Arromdee a écrit :
But copyright doesn't apply to independent invention, which he claims this
is, and which seems fairly reasonable. If he independently invented it we
only have a trademark claim; if we don't have a trademark claim we have
none.
IANAL, but as far
Le dimanche 28 novembre 2010 à 10:36 +0100, Alessandro Rubini a écrit :
http://imgur.com/gFKfs.jpg
Thank you for making this jpeg, it's very clear.
[...]
The comapny Logo was created by photoshop and Logo software, we desgined it
from the stretch. if you have somethins to say, give us
FYI - A computer shop has taken the Debian logo and used it for his
business.
http://imgur.com/gFKfs.jpg
Thank you for making this jpeg, it's very clear.
[...]
The comapny Logo was created by photoshop and Logo software, we desgined it
from the stretch. if you have somethins to say, give
Sam McLeod sam...@gmail.com writes:
FYI - A computer shop has taken the Debian logo and used it for his
business.
Nowhere does the business mention Debian and when I sent the owner an email
informing him of the misuse and linking him to debian.org/logos - he claimed
he created the logo from
Thanks for pointing this out.
I guess this one is case closed!
Sam.
On 28 November 2010 22:36, Alessandro Rubini rub...@arcana.linux.it wrote:
FYI - A computer shop has taken the Debian logo and used it for his
business.
http://imgur.com/gFKfs.jpg
Thank you for making this jpeg, it's
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:01:33 +1300 Sam McLeod wrote:
FYI - A computer shop has taken the Debian logo and used it for his
business.
Nowhere does the business mention Debian and when I sent the owner an email
informing him of the misuse and linking him to debian.org/logos - he claimed
he
Alessandro Rubini rub...@arcana.linux.it writes:
[...] The comapny Logo was created by photoshop and Logo software,
we desgined it from the stretch. if you have somethins to say, give
us a call.
Unfortunately, they may be right and in good faith.
Right. But that may not matter, since
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
Alessandro Rubini rub...@arcana.linux.it writes:
This message confirms the swirl is just one of the defaults:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/06/msg00340.html
[which, may I say, was quite a naive
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au
wrote:
But it's a burden to be borne now.
I don't really agree, we can have another logo competition. These days
we have several artists involved with Debian so we might get a great
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