I didn't get the exact parameters needed to obtain Debian's logo, but I did
show that they are not default.

Mike

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Mike Hommey <m...@glandium.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 02:50:04PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:36:44AM +0100, Alessandro Rubini wrote:
> > > > FYI - A computer shop has taken the Debian logo and used it for his
> > > > business.
> >
> > > > http://imgur.com/gFKfs.jpg
> >
> > > Thank you for making this jpeg, it's very clear.
> >
> > > > [...]
> > > > "The comapny Logo was created by photoshop and Logo software, we
> desgined it
> > > > from the stretch. if you have somethins to say, give us a call."
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, they may be right and in good faith.
> > > This message confirms the swirl is just one of the defaults:
> > >     http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/06/msg00340.html
> >
> > This is an unsubstantiated claim that has been repeated ad absurdum on
> the
> > lists for years.  Sure, it uses a default brush.  But who has
> demonstrated
> > that the exact swirl pattern can be reproduced trivially by accident?  No
> > one.  When companies show up with a logo that reproduces your exact
> > *application* of the brush, angle for angle down to the pixel, it
> stretches
> > credulity to claim that this occurred to them independently.
>
> Until someone gives the exact parameters needed to obtain the same
> result, there is no way to conclusively say whether this is trivial to
> accidentally reproduce or not.
>
> Mike
>
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