Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-23 Thread Ric Moore
On 9/19/19 12:47 PM, Tom Browder wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:30 Jude DaShiell > wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Fred wrote: ... > Do we have our lying idiot, bag of crap, fake President to thank for making > that much worse? Not all agree with

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-20 Thread Surya Saha
Seconded++ On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 11:03 AM The Wanderer wrote: > On 2019-09-20 at 10:39, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > > > As I said, he will go down in history as one of the greatest > > presidents in the last 100 years, maybe more. > > It is frustrating to read these things and know that to even

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 11:03:11 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > None of that discussion belongs on this mailing list. > > Please, drop the subject. Hear, hear! -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-20 Thread Steve McIntyre
tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: >On 9/19/2019, 12:05:39 PM, Fred wrote: >> On 9/19/19 8:40 AM, Default User wrote: >>> We have descended into the new Dark Ages where intellectual discourse, >>> freedom of speech, and even freedom of thought will not be tolerated. >>> >>> The witch hunts are

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-20 at 10:39, Tanstaafl wrote: > As I said, he will go down in history as one of the greatest > presidents in the last 100 years, maybe more. It is frustrating to read these things and know that to even attempt to refute them would be to contribute to the inflammatory, off-topic

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 9/20/2019, 10:02:19 AM, Paul Sutton wrote: > Donald trump promised to bring jobs back to the US, cut regulation.  He > has done that,  if people judge him on his performance alone he has done > pretty much what he said he would.  Not many politicians can boast > that,.  The problem is it is

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-20 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 09/20/2019 10:02 AM, Paul Sutton wrote: On 20/09/2019 14:48, Stefan Monnier wrote: Donald Trump will go down in history as the greatest President in the last 100 years, maybe more. I guess I could live with that, but only if he goes down quickly. Stefan Donald trump promised

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 9/20/2019, 9:48:28 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Donald Trump will go down in history as the greatest President in the >> last 100 years, maybe more. > > I guess I could live with that, but only if he goes down quickly. Nice try, epic fail...

Re: Poe's Law (was: I support the founder of FreeSoftware)

2019-09-20 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 9:40 AM wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 09:25:14AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > [...] > > > Actually, this situation can be laid plainly at the feet of the lying > > idiot, bag of crap fake news Mainstream Media, for spreading lies dis > > and mis-information about our duly

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-20 Thread Paul Sutton
On 20/09/2019 14:48, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Donald Trump will go down in history as the greatest President in the >> last 100 years, maybe more. > I guess I could live with that, but only if he goes down quickly. > > > Stefan > Donald trump promised to bring jobs back to the US, cut

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Donald Trump will go down in history as the greatest President in the > last 100 years, maybe more. I guess I could live with that, but only if he goes down quickly. Stefan

Poe's Law (was: I support the founder of FreeSoftware)

2019-09-20 Thread tomas
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 09:25:14AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: [...] > Actually, this situation can be laid plainly at the feet of the lying > idiot, bag of crap fake news Mainstream Media, for spreading lies dis > and mis-information about our duly elected and beloved President, Donald > John

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 9/19/2019, 12:05:39 PM, Fred wrote: > On 9/19/19 8:40 AM, Default User wrote: >> We have descended into the new Dark Ages where intellectual discourse, >> freedom of speech, and even freedom of thought will not be tolerated. >> >> The witch hunts are back. > Do we have our lying idiot, bag

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread Carl Fink
Looking at conversation elsewhere: many people don't like Richard, perceiving him as jerk at best, actively hateful at worst. I got along with him during the couple of days I spent mostly with him. (He was a guest at an event I ran.) Others have not had that experience. Being already very

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 9/19/19 2:29 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: ' My overall points though, include: * that we can judge some of the actions of any man one way, and other actions by the same man another way, and sometimes one can overshadow the other, and sometimes not. * I don't wish to judge a man and,

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
The next one that needs to loose her job is that robotics engineer. On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:29:19 > From: rhkra...@gmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware > Resent-Date: T

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 09:05:39 -0700 Fred wrote: > > We have descended into the new Dark Ages where intellectual > > discourse, freedom of speech, and even freedom of thought will not > > be tolerated. > > > > The witch hunts are back. > > > Do we have our lying idiot, bag of crap, fake

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread rhkramer
I don't support anyone unconditionally. I don't think anyone should -- we (all) are smarter, more discerning, and capable of dealing with things like ambiguity. I read only a little bit (the begining) of the Register article covering the interview with Richard Stallman, and from what I read

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-19 at 13:40, ghe wrote: > On 9/19/19 10:47 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > >> Not all agree with you. Politics and angry speech have no place on >> this list. > > Please allow me to differ. > > In this case, I claim they do. Stallman is controversial, but he's > one of the founders of the

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread ghe
On 9/19/19 10:47 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > Not all agree with you. Politics and angry speech have no place on this > list. Please allow me to differ. In this case, I claim they do. Stallman is controversial, but he's one of the founders of the unix clones. I just hope he'll stay on at GNU. What

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:30 Jude DaShiell wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Fred wrote: ... > > > Do we have our lying idiot, bag of crap, fake President to thank for > making > > that much worse? > Not all agree with you. Politics and angry speech have no place on this list. -Tom

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Fred wrote: > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 12:05:39 > From: Fred > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware > Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 16:10:06 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > On

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread Fred
On 9/19/19 8:40 AM, Default User wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 05:20 aprekates > wrote: I want to express my support to Richard Stallman amidst a smear attack on his person, on his right to speak, but mostly to what he stands for . I stand by

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
My guess is, Richard Stallman will be replaced. What will be unknown for a while is how well he will be replaced within the F.S.F. On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Default User wrote: > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 11:40:03 > From: Default User > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: R

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread Default User
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 05:20 aprekates wrote: > I want to express my support to Richard Stallman amidst a smear attack > on his person, on his right to speak, but mostly to what he stands for . > > I stand by Richard Stallman because expressing our thougths is not a crime > but a human right. > >

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:19:50PM +0300, aprekates wrote: > ps: for the members of the debian community not fully aware of >   attack i'd recommend as entry readings: > > https://itsfoss.com/richard-stallman-controversy/ > > https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794 >

I support the founder of FreeSoftware

2019-09-19 Thread aprekates
I want to express my support to Richard Stallman amidst a smear attack on his person, on his right to speak, but mostly to what he stands for . I stand by Richard Stallman because expressing our thougths is not a crime but a human right. I stand by Richard Stallman because i need an