Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 04:14:46PM +, Brian wrote: > On Sat 02 Jan 2016 at 04:11:38 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:15:03PM +, Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 23:01:43 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > > > The sources are different. > > > > > >

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 06 January 2016 13:49:38 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 04:14:46PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 02 Jan 2016 at 04:11:38 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:15:03PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 23:01:43 +, Lisi

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-06 Thread Brian
On Wed 06 Jan 2016 at 15:41:42 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 06 January 2016 13:49:38 Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > Ah! I see. I assumed Lisi was referring to the /etc/apt/sources.list > > entries. > > I was. > > I was referring to the fact that the two installers get their software

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Looking at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-dlbd/ it seems that the full set of software available from Debian for amd64 fits on two dual-layer Bluray disks. According to Wikipedia a dlbd disk holds 50GB, so you may need a couple of 64GB Flash drives before you’re

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Eduard Bloch wrote: > But for regular "push data around from FD to FD" job the only crucial > difference I remember is the nasty behavior of dd when a short read > occurres - aborting instead of retrying as cp does. I saw it padding up short blocks and going on when i was still on SuSE 10.

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/30/2015 7:11 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: [SNIP] Hi Thomas, Maybe you missed the run-up to this discussion. Steve only has a Windows computer right now. He’s trying to get Linux running so he can learn more about it. I don’t know whether he wants to dual-boot or if he has a separate

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/31/2015 10:01 AM, Brian wrote: On Thu 31 Dec 2015 at 10:21:06 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: Andrew M.A. Cater's bluray suggestion is a good one. Most everything of what you want should be in the image. An alternative method with more than 3 DVDs is at

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:15:03PM +, Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 23:01:43 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:54:50 Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 19:39:10 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 17:29:30 Brian wrote: > >

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2016-01-01 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Jan 2016 at 04:11:38 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:15:03PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 23:01:43 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > The sources are different. > > > > More nonsense. > > Huh? the sources list is different if you use DVD's

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > with the advise to use cp or dd and its link to > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ Rick Thomas wrote: > Steve only has a Windows computer right now. [...] He reported to have tried on Linux, too. > so dd or cp are not available. Cygwin or alike ? >

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Joe
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 23:03:38 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 20:32:30 Joe wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:41:08 + > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:34:54 Steve Matzura wrote: > > > > The

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 31 December 2015 09:22:25 Joe wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 23:03:38 + > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 20:32:30 Joe wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:41:08 + > > > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
Rick: I did the Jigdo build on Windows, but I installed Debian from DVD, and that went just swimmingly right up until the post-installation first boot. Actually the system was OK, but for some reason, it set my sound card's volumes, all of them, to 0. That is now being investigated by Debian

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
How would I know for sure if it's ISO hybrid, and how would it fit on a standard 16GB drive? Guess it wouldn't, unless there was a great deal of extra space appended at the time the thing was created which could be truncated/removed. Actually, I strongly suspect that's true because the temp file

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:55:08AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > Fascinating stuff. The one thing I forgot is cp and dd are not the > same. Well... if you cp the image to the _device file_ it amounts practically to dd (but in dd you can set the block

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Dec 2015 at 10:21:06 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: Andrew M.A. Cater's bluray suggestion is a good one. Most everything of what you want should be in the image. An alternative method with more than 3 DVDs is at https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick > to put a sock in

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Dec 2015 at 10:37:22 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: Thanks for that; I was thinking of doing it. 21GB seems closer to 4 to 5 DVDs than 3. The image is should be an isohybrid one. Put it on a thumbdrive with cat, cp or dd. For example: cat ISO > /dev/sdX X is a, b, c etc. Obtain X

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Steve Matzura: > Thomas, just dd the file? That really works? Yes. It's called "isohybrid". http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Isohybrid As said: Copy it onto the base device, the whole "disk". It must overwrite MBR, partition table, GPT, whatever partitioning and boot sector is

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Dec 2015 at 11:17:59 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: 'fdisk -l /dev/sdX' will show a partition table (as described by Thomas Schmitt). A 21GB image will not fit on a 16GM USB stick. > How would I know for sure if it's ISO hybrid, and how would it fit on > a standard 16GB drive? Guess it

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
Fascinating stuff. The one thing I forgot is cp and dd are not the same. Now, does this mean I should run the ISO I made with Jigdo through isohybrid now that I have a running Linux system? On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 17:25:39 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > >Steve Matzura: >> Thomas, just dd the file? That

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Steve Matzura wrote: > The one thing I forgot is cp and dd are not the same. I was surprised that cp onto block devices really works as needed for this purpose. You could also do cat debian-8.2.0-amd64-BD-1.iso >/dev/sdc But for old unixers no other tool than dd comes to the mind. >

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread John Hasler
Eduard Bloch writes: > I remember is the nasty behavior of dd when a short read occurres - > aborting instead of retrying as cp does. Not sure whether they changed > the default mode to blocking mode nowadays. Use ddrescue. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Dec 2015 at 18:19:26 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:55:08AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > > Fascinating stuff. The one thing I forgot is cp and dd are not the > > same. > > Well... if you cp the image to the _device file_ it amounts practically > to dd (but

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Steve Matzura wrote: > How would I know for sure if it's ISO hybrid, A strong indication is the presence of partitions when inquired by program fdisk. $ /sbin/fdisk -l debian-8.2.0-amd64-BD-1.iso ... debian-8.2.0-amd64-BD-1.iso1 *0 43859651 ... ... You may let xorriso

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
to put a sock in this discussion, I have, in fact, gone to one or two locations where there was *NO* Internet at all because the person who wanted an accessible computer had no idea that in this day and age a network connection is a virtual requirement to do anything useful. They were quite happy

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Joe
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:23:10 -0500 Steve Matzura wrote: > Thomas, just dd the file? That really works? I've got to try this. > I've heard of this being the way to do things, but find it hard to > understand how it could work. I suppose the boot loaders know what to > do with

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
Joe, On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:43:12 +, you wrote: >No, it's the very opposite of knowing where things go. The dd command >is a very simple, completely unintelligent copier. But an ISO file is >an image, literally every byte stored on some medium being scraped up >in order, with the intention

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 16:47:43 +, Brian wrote: >'fdisk -l /dev/sdX' will show a partition table (as described by Thomas >Schmitt). A 21GB image will not fit on a 16GM USB stick. Yes, the ISO is good. fdisk shows everything's fine. I'll have to try this with one of my 32's just to see it work.

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
Thomas, just dd the file? That really works? I've got to try this. I've heard of this being the way to do things, but find it hard to understand how it could work. I suppose the boot loaders know what to do with ISO images. On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 22:34:56 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > >Steve Matzura

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Steve Matzura
For those who want to try this, the size of the Iso I got from the Jigdo build far exceeds a 16GB stick. It's reported as 20.9GB. I suppose I'll have to use one of my prized 32GB USB3 thumbdrives for this test.

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Dec 2015 at 11:55:08 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > Fascinating stuff. The one thing I forgot is cp and dd are not the > same. cp reads and writes file. dd reads and writes file. Why are they basically not the same for the task of putting an isohybrid on a USB stick?

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-31 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hallo, * Thomas Schmidt [Thu, Dec 31 2015, 06:11:39PM]: > Hi, > > Steve Matzura wrote: > > The one thing I forgot is cp and dd are not the same. > > I was surprised that cp onto block devices really works as > needed for this purpose. > You could also do > cat debian-8.2.0-amd64-BD-1.iso

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 12:49:25 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote As a matter of interest, how did you partition the disk? What partitioning scheme did you use? Also, you might have, I think, written the DVD-1 ISO image to a USB stick from within Windows. How did you do it? I went through the speech

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
I chose the partition scheme offering separate /, /home, /var and /tmp partitions. I would have preferred to put /home on a different physical drive only because everything else will be living on an SSD and I would prefer to keep the writes to that disk at a minimum. I have an extra rotating disk

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 10:37:53 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > Can the net install run with speech? I didn't think it could. "Install with speech systhesis" is the last item in the installer menu. The only major difference between DVD-1 and the netinst ISO is the first gets packages from the DVD

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 15:33:25 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:22:29 Steve Matzura wrote: > > Thinking this tool would be the answer to life, etc., I tried it. Have > > now tried it on three Windows and two borrowed Linux machines, all > > with the same 0 results,

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Lisi: On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:30:11 +, you wrote: >> Why not use the net-install? That fits _easily_ on a stick, even a small >> stick, and away you go. Just do the basic install and then pull the rest >> off the net. You don't need everything. >> >> I never use anything else. You can get

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Frankly, neither can I, and I also can't see why the "install additional software" procedure in Step 14 would fail, but it did, and there we are. I'll try DVD 1 again now. At least I won't have to go through the disk partitioning business again. That part is all done. On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 17:29:30

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 11:09:03 -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > PS: Would a wish-list bug against debian-installer be appropriate? Probably. But I wouldn't hold my breath.

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread David Christensen
On 12/30/2015 07:22 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Thinking this tool would be the answer to life, etc., I tried it. Have now tried it on three Windows and two borrowed Linux machines, all with the same 0 results, which means it must be something I'm doing wrong. Unfortunately, the Linux machines in

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:34:54 Steve Matzura wrote: > The USB thumb drive idea was just something I > thought I would try to make work because it's convenient to carry it > around and use on various hardwares I encounter on a regular basis in > my travels as the itinerant accessible

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Steve Matzura wrote: > When I run the script that controls things, On a Debian 8 system i did apt-get install jigdo-file jigdo-lite http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/jigdo-bd/debian-8.2.0-amd64-BD-1.jigdo (It is the first time i do this. Normally i wget netinst ISOs.

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:37:53 Steve Matzura wrote: > Can the net install run with speech? I didn't think it could. Yes, it can. Lisi > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:26:49 +, you wrote: > >On Wednesday 30 December 2015 14:00:18 Steve Matzura wrote: > >> I'm doing it to an NTFS filesystem

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:45:05 Steve Matzura wrote: > Lisi: > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:30:11 +, you wrote: > >> Why not use the net-install? That fits _easily_ on a stick, even a > >> small stick, and away you go. Just do the basic install and then pull > >> the rest off the net.

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 17:29:30 Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 10:37:53 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > > Can the net install run with speech? I didn't think it could. > > "Install with speech systhesis" is the last item in the installer menu. > > The only major difference between DVD-1

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 30, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 17:29:30 Brian wrote: >> On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 10:37:53 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: >>> Can the net install run with speech? I didn't think it could. >> >> "Install with speech systhesis" is

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Joe
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:41:08 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:34:54 Steve Matzura wrote: > > The USB thumb drive idea was just something I > > thought I would try to make work because it's convenient to carry it > > around and use on various

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 17:55:48 Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 15:33:25 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:22:29 Steve Matzura wrote: > > > Thinking this tool would be the answer to life, etc., I tried it. Have > > > now tried it on three Windows and two

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Rick Thomas
It would be kinda cool if the installer could deal with multiple DVDs at once: Allow people with two or more optical drives to put DVD-1 in one of them and DVD-2 in the second (and so on, if necessary/possible) and have the installation “just work” with no swapping of disks in drives. Then

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Sorry, I missed that question. I have not put it on a stick as yet, not even the (relatively) small DVD image. I tried using ISO2USB but couldn't get the thing to boot. I don't know if it was because my thumb drive wouldn't cooperate, or just what, but I definitely did make it work with ISO2USB

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:46:14 +, you wrote: >> Steve Matzura is trying to put a "complete three-disk installation set >> on a single medium" with jigdo. Using a netinst ISO doesn't seem to fit >> the bill. > >For the purpose of installing it. So it does fit the bill. (See his reply to >me.)

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Well, true enough, but if it isn't, it's a viable alternative. In my line of work, alternatives rule. On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:41:08 +, you wrote: >On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:34:54 Steve Matzura wrote: >> The USB thumb drive idea was just something I >> thought I would try to make work

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:34:55 Steve Matzura wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:46:14 +, you wrote: > >> Steve Matzura is trying to put a "complete three-disk installation set > >> on a single medium" with jigdo. Using a netinst ISO doesn't seem to fit > >> the bill. > > > >For the

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 19:39:10 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 17:29:30 Brian wrote: > > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 10:37:53 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > > > Can the net install run with speech? I didn't think it could. > > > > "Install with speech systhesis" is the last item

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 11:56:14 -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Dec 30, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 17:29:30 Brian wrote: > >> On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 10:37:53 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > >>> Can the net install run with

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Ah, so what I'm trying to do will probably fail? It was an idea anyway. On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:58:56 -0800, you wrote: >On 12/30/2015 11:51 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> http://atterer.org/sites/atterer/files/2009-08/jigdo/jigdo-win-0.7.2.zip > >It looks like the author only anticipated DVD-sized

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
I didn't do anything to the medium before using a ISO2USB to write to it. In fact, it was a fresh USB thum drive, literally right out of the package. On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 20:24:04 +, you wrote: >On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 14:34:54 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > >> Sorry, I missed that question. I

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Thomas, that's exactly what's happening here. The temp file is 20 gigs, and stuff is being downloaded at a great rate, yes, at least 80% of my maximum 150mbps, and the screen is scrolling much to quickly to read, so I'll just check it every few hours to see how it's doing. I used the URL as

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 13:26:10 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: If you are experimenting I would choose Manual partitioning and go for a single 10/20 GB partition. You are not exactly installing very much and that is plenty. A repeat question: how did you get the ISO on a USB stick? (Assuming this is

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:36:23 -0800, you wrote: >Where did you get the Windows port of Jidgo? Please provide a URL. http://atterer.org/sites/atterer/files/2009-08/jigdo/jigdo-win-0.7.2.zip >What is the maximum download file size specification for the program? Don't know. Where would I find

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:48:02 Steve Matzura wrote: > Well, true enough, but if it isn't, it's a viable alternative. In my > line of work, alternatives rule. :-) As I say, I prefer it. It is simpler, where it is suitable at all. Lisi > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:41:08 +, you wrote:

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 19:48:04 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:34:55 Steve Matzura wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:46:14 +, you wrote: > > >> Steve Matzura is trying to put a "complete three-disk installation set > > >> on a single medium" with jigdo. Using a

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 14:34:54 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > Sorry, I missed that question. I have not put it on a stick as yet, > not even the (relatively) small DVD image. I tried using ISO2USB but > couldn't get the thing to boot. I don't know if it was because my > thumb drive wouldn't

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread David Christensen
On 12/30/2015 11:51 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: http://atterer.org/sites/atterer/files/2009-08/jigdo/jigdo-win-0.7.2.zip It looks like the author only anticipated DVD-sized files, not Blu-Ray sized files: http://atterer.org/jigdo This version is capable of creating DVD-sized images on

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:54:50 Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 19:39:10 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 17:29:30 Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 10:37:53 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > > > > Can the net install run with speech? I didn't think it

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 20:32:30 Joe wrote: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:41:08 + > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:34:54 Steve Matzura wrote: > > > The USB thumb drive idea was just something I > > > thought I would try to make work because

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 23:01:43 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 19:54:50 Brian wrote: > > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 19:39:10 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 17:29:30 Brian wrote: > > > > On Wed 30 Dec 2015 at 10:37:53 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: >

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 09:00:18AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > I'm doing it to an NTFS filesystem drive. According to Wikipedia [1] it has a file size limit of 16 EiB (further limited by Windows NT to 16 TiB), so no, that doesn't seem to be the

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/29/2015 3:18 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: Is there a way to place the contents of all the Debian installation ISO's on a single USB drive? Yes, at least with Squeeze. I haven't tried with Wheezy or Jessie yet. My motivation was that until recently I was limited to dial up. My initial

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Steve Matzura wrote: > didn't do anything to the medium before using a ISO2USB to write to it. Do not use any repacker tool with the debian-cd ISOs. Rather copy them plainly onto the base device of the USB drive. E.g. onto /dev/sdc if it is at a Linux machine. See

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Dec 30, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > Steve Matzura wrote: >> didn't do anything to the medium before using a ISO2USB to write to it. > > Do not use any repacker tool with the debian-cd ISOs. > Rather copy them plainly onto the base device of the

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 08:52:56PM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > Thanks, Andy. I downloaded the Windows Jigdo downloader and found a > mirror in my state, but I keep getting the following when trying to > download the Blu-ray image after several

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Um, if I had one, I would. Thats the whole purpose of this exercise--to get me a Linux machine, so I just thought I'd do it the easy way. Jigdo ran all night and I got nothing. In fact, it's still trying. On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:34:05 -0800, you wrote: > >On Dec 29, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Steve

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
I'm doing it to an NTFS filesystem drive. On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:06:13 +0100, you wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 08:52:56PM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: >> Thanks, Andy. I downloaded the Windows Jigdo downloader and found a >> mirror in my state,

Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Thinking this tool would be the answer to life, etc., I tried it. Have now tried it on three Windows and two borrowed Linux machines, all with the same 0 results, which means it must be something I'm doing wrong. Unfortunately, the Linux machines in question don't have sufficient space to hold the

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 14:00:18 Steve Matzura wrote: > I'm doing it to an NTFS filesystem drive. > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:06:13 +0100, you wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 08:52:56PM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > >> Thanks, Andy. I

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:26:49 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 30 December 2015 14:00:18 Steve Matzura wrote: > > I'm doing it to an NTFS filesystem drive. > > > > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:06:13 +0100, you wrote: > > > > > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 08:52:56PM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > >

Re: Jigdo (was "Putting It All On a Stick")

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:22:29 Steve Matzura wrote: > Thinking this tool would be the answer to life, etc., I tried it. Have > now tried it on three Windows and two borrowed Linux machines, all > with the same 0 results, which means it must be something I'm doing > wrong. Unfortunately,

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Can the net install run with speech? I didn't think it could. On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:26:49 +, you wrote: >On Wednesday 30 December 2015 14:00:18 Steve Matzura wrote: >> I'm doing it to an NTFS filesystem drive. >> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:06:13 +0100, you wrote: >> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Matzura
Thanks, Andy. I downloaded the Windows Jigdo downloader and found a mirror in my state, but I keep getting the following when trying to download the Blu-ray image after several connect attempts: result too large >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 04:18:15PM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: >> Is there a way to

Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Matzura
Is there a way to place the contents of all the Debian installation ISO's on a single USB drive? For example, after creating the boot drive from the first ISO image, can the files from the second and third images be simply copied onto the USB drive, creating one complete three-disk installation

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 04:18:15PM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: > Is there a way to place the contents of all the Debian installation > ISO's on a single USB drive? For example, after creating the boot > drive from the first ISO image, can the files from the second and > third images be simply

Re: Putting It All On a Stick

2015-12-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 29, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 04:18:15PM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: >>> Is there a way to place the contents of all the Debian installation >>> ISO's on a single USB drive? For example, after creating the boot >>> drive from